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The Justice Department Wants the Resistance's IP Addresses
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http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/346544-dreamhost-claims-doj-requesting-info-on-visitors-to-anti-trump-website
TL;DR: DoJ is demanding 1.3 million IP addresses for people who visited the website used to organize the post-inauguration protests. Dreamhost is currently fighting the claim in court. DoJ is also asking for the contact information and photos of some subset of the website in question's users.
The Department of Justice has requested information on visitors to a website used to organize protests against President Trump, the Los Angeles-based Dreamhost said in a blog post published on Monday.
Dreamhost, a web hosting provider, said that it has been working with the Department of Justice for several months on the request, which believes goes too far under the Constitution.
DreamHost claimed that the complying with the request from the Justice Department would amount to handing over roughly 1.3 million visitor IP addresses to the government, in addition to contact information, email content and photos of thousands of visitors to the website, which was involved in organizing protests against Trump on Inauguration Day.
“That information could be used to identify any individuals who used this site to exercise and express political speech protected under the Constitution’s First Amendment,” DreamHost wrote in the blog post on Monday. “That should be enough to set alarm bells off in anyone’s mind.”
When contacted, the Justice Department directed The Hill to the U.S. attorney's office in D.C.
The company is currently challenging the request. A hearing on the matter is scheduled for Friday in Washington.
“In essence, the Search Warrant not only aims to identify the political dissidents of the current administration, but attempts to identify and understand what content each of these dissidents viewed on the website,” the company’s general counsel, Chris Ghazarian, said in a legal argument opposing the request.
The web provider published a purported search warrant issued by the Superior Court of the District of Columbia that asks for records and information related to the website and its owner, along with information that could be used to identify subscribers of the website.
This includes “names, addresses, telephone numbers and other identifiers, e-mail addresses, business information, the length of service (including start date), means and source of payment for services (including any credit card or bank account number), and information about any domain name registration.”
The warrant, dated July 12, says that authorities will seize any information constituting violations of D.C. code governing riots that involve individuals connected to the protests on Inauguration Day.
More than 200 people were indicted on felony rioting charges in connection with the protests in Washington on Jan. 20.
TL;DR: DoJ is demanding 1.3 million IP addresses for people who visited the website used to organize the post-inauguration protests. Dreamhost is currently fighting the claim in court. DoJ is also asking for the contact information and photos of some subset of the website in question's users.
The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
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Someone check the local hospitals, certainly he has been admitted
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It's possible to get a warrant against a location, facility, etc, and for it to include visitor logs or other records, if visitors might be witnesses, conspirators, victims, or otherwise involved. Aside from what they did or left at the warrant location they're not subject to search themselves, but that usually follows with more warrants.
Also possible, but usually fishy smelling, to get one targeting many conspirators at once.
This one sounds more like the former
Surely libertarians will come out strongly against this assault on civil liberties
Surely
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
Won't help you if you input your name, email address, phone number, credit card info, etc into a website.
I'm gonna go with 99.5 %.
Nah, and don't call me shirley
Critical Failures - Havenhold Campaign • August St. Cloud (Human Ranger)
I dont think thats true. It can do more than one thing at a time....
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If so, that's just another layer of bullshit.
Critical Failures - Havenhold Campaign • August St. Cloud (Human Ranger)
Its probably automatically done by their hosting site, unless you think to turn it off.
https://www.eff.org/issues/mandatory-data-retention/us
Eh, you don't just drop logs. You always want to be able to go back in your logging to investigate a defect or possible intrusion. Basic piece of info in most logging gives ip addresses for the people launching requests at your server so you can see who is doing what when.
And you record this in multiple places and at multiple levels of the process.
Literally over half of our lives is permanently recorded in multiple locations.
This is just inevitable when any authoritarian hits power in the dystopian future we've built.
Maybe so, but storing IP addresses wouldn't help with that anyway. Any intruder or hacker isn't going to have an IP address that leads back to anything useful. But college students and mom & pop that might be registering for a rally aren't likely to be behind a vpn or have their real IP obfuscated.
It's just another thing to degrade the privacy of regular citizens under the guise of stopping the 'bad guy.'
I am good friends with a lot of IT and Network Guys. I know how much they drool over their logs and databases. But still.
Critical Failures - Havenhold Campaign • August St. Cloud (Human Ranger)
You use it more for defects than intrusions.
so we can do better in the future. It's just a useful piece of informantion to have in that process.
Critical Failures - Havenhold Campaign • August St. Cloud (Human Ranger)
When the right/fucking NAZIS gather, it's "peaceful assembly."
peaceful assembly with a shit ton of guns
That's why it's so peaceful!
Agreed! Any threads in Moe's have recommendations?
Given that his approval rating continues it's steady descent I'm pretty sure his twitter propaganda (twitanda?) is likely convincing an ever shrinking audience... this seems like a really bad trade off.
I am skeptical that Trump in particular is thinking this far ahead.
Political extremists tend to think there are more who shares their ideas than actually do and that energizing the base is the way to win elections.
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Or alternately all they need to do is get the word out and the sheeple will awaken
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VPN isn't going to save you from anything. https://gist.github.com/joepie91/5a9909939e6ce7d09e29
You can run your own if you really, really want to, but I would never, ever pay someone for the privilege of getting to MITM all of my traffic.
So trying to understand this but...if you have an ISP instead of your own data center isn't there always somebody in that position? Wouldn't a VPN still allow you to choose who is in that position? A whole lot of folks in the US don't have an actual choice with regard to who their ISP is.