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[Natural disasters] Hurricane season is upon us

MayabirdMayabird Pecking at the keyboardRegistered User regular
edited September 2018 in Debate and/or Discourse
2nd UPDATE: I guess this is now a thread for all natural disasters! Discussions of hurricanes, earthquakes, floods, firestorms, etc. can go here.


UPDATE: Per So It Goes, I am updating this to be a general hurricane/cyclone/big tropical storm thread.

For Hurricane Maria info, see this post by @Chimera.



Prior Second OP: Currently, as of 5 September, Houston and surrounding areas of Texas are cleaning up after Category 4 Hurricane Harvey dumped over a year's worth of rain on them. The death toll is still rising as the waters recede and more bodies are found, and damage costs are likely to exceed Katrina, making it the costliest natural disaster in US history...

...unless Hurricane Irma is worse. Irma is still in the Atlantic Ocean, not quite to the Caribbean yet, but it is already a strong Category 5 and models are in agreement that Irma will take a sharp right turn and head north. The only question is where it will landfall. Florida and Puerto Rico have preemptively declared a state of emergency because it's likely Irma will brush northern Puerto Rich and strike Florida. A direct hit by a Category 5 hurricane on Miami would be catastrophic, possibly even worse than Houston. However, Irma could still strike other areas of the country, such as North Carolina (which has not recovered from Hurricane Matthew last year).

This graphic updates periodically by the National Hurricane Center.
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Prior OP:
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Long story short, a former tropical storm that revived itself is now a hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico, with a predicted path that will take it to the Texas coast, likely near Corpus Christi. Harvey may strengthen to Category 3, the first major hurricane to strike the US in over a decade. That would be bad enough, but Harvey is also predicted to stall along the coast, dumping all its stored water in the same region over a course of days, in a region that's prone to flooding anyway. Rainfall is predicted to be measured in feet in some areas. Storm surges are currently predicted to be 6-12' as well across stretches of low-lying coast and flat sand islands. Mandatory evacuations have been declared in several counties already.

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It's an area home to some of the US's largest ports, 1/3 of the country's oil refineries, and millions of people including a number of forumers. Landfall is predicted for late Friday night/early Saturday morning. Stay safe out there.

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    GnizmoGnizmo Registered User regular
    I hope those in the direct manage to stay safe. This is a bit of bad news for New Orleans as well. Currently we do not have all the pumps we would like to deal with the rain water thanks to some annoying mismanagement. We had a bit of flooding as a consequence already, so we really do not need this.

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    knitdanknitdan In ur base Killin ur guysRegistered User regular
    Hurricane Harvey hurtling hella hard at Houston

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    TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    knitdan wrote: »
    Hurricane Harvey hurtling hella hard at Houston

    Corpus Christi, actually, with Houston being on the nasty edge of it (but it does want to bee-line towards us after landfall). I'm not expecting much wind damage but 15+ inches of rain is in the "everything flood" zone. That's Houston, though, those in the direct hurricane path is going to be nasty.

    I'm heading into work tomorrow morning, probably leaving in the afternoon and holing up in my third floor apartment for a few days. I should be safe from flooding, but the only road I can get on absolutely won't be, if the tax day floods last year are any indication. I have some huge retention ponds next to my apartment, I'll probably post some photos to help show water levels.

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    Got the clear to get the fuck out of corpus, so that's my plan

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    milski wrote: »
    Got the clear to get the fuck out of corpus, so that's my plan

    Yes please get out :( Be safe

    @Dynagrip @Atomika @spool32 @OnTheLastCastle yall be safe too

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    I am headed to College Station, which is probably light flooding but should be alright and easy to leave if it gets worse there. Hopefully my house isn't turbofucked.

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    AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    The worry in the Dallas area right now is flooding. We've already had an abnormally wet summer, so it wouldn't take much to push us into severe flood conditions.

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    NSDFRandNSDFRand FloridaRegistered User regular
    milski wrote: »
    I am headed to College Station, which is probably light flooding but should be alright and easy to leave if it gets worse there. Hopefully my house isn't turbofucked.

    TAMU announced that campus is open, which is where I'll be, and everything is planned to go as normal so I guess they aren't expecting a threat to the area.

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    DynagripDynagrip Break me a million hearts HoustonRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    So It Goes wrote: »
    milski wrote: »
    Got the clear to get the fuck out of corpus, so that's my plan

    Yes please get out :( Be safe

    Dynagrip Atomika spool32 OnTheLastCastle yall be safe too

    I got a bunch of water and non-perishable foods on my way back from Fort Worth yesterday. Those stores had not been looted by the local looters/late preparation minded people in Houston. My house has stood through Allison and everything else since the 1950s but that could be a matter of poor luck. There can be huge differences in rain fall levels at granular levels, so fingers crossed!

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    DynagripDynagrip Break me a million hearts HoustonRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    NSDFRand wrote: »
    milski wrote: »
    I am headed to College Station, which is probably light flooding but should be alright and easy to leave if it gets worse there. Hopefully my house isn't turbofucked.

    TAMU announced that campus is open, which is where I'll be, and everything is planned to go as normal so I guess they aren't expecting a threat to the area.

    work is open for me today. Next week is a wait and see type thing.

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    MayabirdMayabird Pecking at the keyboardRegistered User regular
    Update: Harvey's now a Category 2, nearly Category 3. Apparently it's crossing over a deep warm eddy so there's plenty of heat for intensifying.

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    Having been through Allison and Ike and the tax day flood I think it will at most be like Alison, and I think that's mainly because it's going to bounce back east after landfall which is kind of what Allison did and just sat half assed on the coast without breaking up. Media is so hoping for it to be Katrina or Andrew so they get their local Emmy awards because first big hurricane in ten years!

    But hey, finally get to use the Netflix download thingie to see what it can do.

    (and if you don't hear from me ever again just remember Captain America sucks)

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    firewaterwordfirewaterword Satchitananda Pais Vasco to San FranciscoRegistered User regular
    In Marshall, TX for work. I don't think we're going to get much more than a ton of rain, but it's still a bit crazy to me. Drove to Tyler the other night and saw at least three big old highway warning signs telling people to be prepared and to stay the hell away from the coast.

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    Lord PalingtonLord Palington he.him.his History-loving pal!Registered User regular
    Yeah, lots of warning signs in Fort Worth, but we shouldn't get much more than some rain.

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    jimb213jimb213 Registered User regular
    Yeah, in Austin we're expecting a bunch of rain, and that's about it. I gassed up my truck yesterday (as were loads of people; I've never seen that gas station so busy) and got some extra food and beer so if the rain does get bonkers here it'll be no problem to just chill at home.

    Oh, and I do have a couch in a messy apartment if any Houston/Corpus/Valley forumers need a place to crash.

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    VishNubVishNub Registered User regular
    I'm in New Orleans right now for a vacation, and we were scheduled to fly back to dallas through Houston Saturday night. Fortunately Southwest didn't want to deal with that either, so they comped us a flight change. We're going direct now. It doesn't look like DFW will get much more than rain, but all the reservoirs here are already full or over pool.

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    Johnny ChopsockyJohnny Chopsocky Scootaloo! We have to cook! Grillin' HaysenburgersRegistered User regular
    Stay safe down there, texans.

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    ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    My in-laws are in Corpus Christi, normally. They've booked it out to San Marcos, where non-horrendous rain is expected.

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    MatevMatev Cero Miedo Registered User regular
    edited August 2017
    My girlfriend of 10 years lives in Houston (Pasadena actually, for those keeping score at home) in a ground floor apartment. Could be devastating if her place floods, for various reasons
    One tiny selfish part of me is working on ways to get her up here in aftermath to get her out of that crazy state.

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    TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    Most people at work (energy corridor in Houston) are leaving early with concerns about getting to work Monday. I'm leaving as soon as I get VPN access.

    So far all we have seen is dark skies and a few small showers, but It's going to be a long weekend.

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    VishNubVishNub Registered User regular
    edited August 2017
    VishNub on
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    KruiteKruite Registered User regular
    New job; everyone that works in Houston is back in new Orleans and the Houston office was closed yesterday

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    VishNubVishNub Registered User regular
    If anyone needs it, we'll have a spare room in DFW starting Sat night.

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    Safely got to College Station.

    I ate an engineer
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    NinjeffNinjeff Registered User regular
    Word from my family (mom is director of Emergency Management in University of Houston) is that south of I-10 is where the real worry is. They are advocating everyone to gtfo.

    My dad lives in Baytown, and the amount of water is the real concern there. Most of all the plants in the corridor have been shut down or running on skeleton crews.

    As a native Houstonian I'm pretty worried about this one. The amount of rain in such a short time is very concerning.
    Unfortunately I'm up here in Illinois and cant do much but watch and wait......

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    AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    Ninjeff wrote: »
    Word from my family (mom is director of Emergency Management in University of Houston) is that south of I-10 is where the real worry is. They are advocating everyone to gtfo.

    My dad lives in Baytown, and the amount of water is the real concern there. Most of all the plants in the corridor have been shut down or running on skeleton crews.

    As a native Houstonian I'm pretty worried about this one. The amount of rain in such a short time is very concerning.
    Unfortunately I'm up here in Illinois and cant do much but watch and wait......

    Shit, I forgot your family is from there.

    I hope everyone stays safe!

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    GyralGyral Registered User regular
    edited August 2017
    As someone from eastern NC who saw a CAT 1 last year tear through the coast, cut our county in half (flooded rivers 10 feet above safety levels), open up dozens of sinkholes and force thousands out of their homes - be safe. I can only hope and pray for your safety.

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    VishNubVishNub Registered User regular
    The other problem is that all of the water that falls inland of the main impacts is going straight back downriver, through the hardest hit areas.

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    Dead LegendDead Legend Registered User regular
    It's going to be a real turd floater for sure.

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    joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    I live in Abilene which isn't coastal or anything (more like central TX) but the thing is that we don't have storm drains here, so even a normal rain turns into nasty flash flooding pretty regularly. Hopefully a lot of that dies out before it gets here or everything will shut down.

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    TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/25/us/hurricane-harvey-latest/index.html

    Harvey is now a Cat 3 Hurricane

    Stay safe everyone.

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    rhylithrhylith Death Rabbits HoustonRegistered User regular
    I'm in Houston in a 3rd floor apartment and my car is parked in a garage so I should be ok. They expect the winds will have slowed enough by the time the storm reaches us, but it's gonna rain hard for like 3 days.

    My immediate area can flood. My apartment complex is elevated a little bit so during the tax day and Memorial Day floods we were basically on our own little island with only a couple inches of water in the parking lot.

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    XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    rhylith wrote: »
    I'm in Houston in a 3rd floor apartment and my car is parked in a garage so I should be ok. They expect the winds will have slowed enough by the time the storm reaches us, but it's gonna rain hard for like 3 days.

    My immediate area can flood. My apartment complex is elevated a little bit so during the tax day and Memorial Day floods we were basically on our own little island with only a couple inches of water in the parking lot.

    hopefully not an underground parking garage!

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    rhylithrhylith Death Rabbits HoustonRegistered User regular
    I wouldn't be posting that if it was hah. 4th floor.

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    lonelyahavalonelyahava Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~ Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    Be safe folks. Thinking of y'all.

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    QanamilQanamil x Registered User regular
    Don't drive through flooded roads no matter how low it may seem. It's very dangerous!

    Be safe everybody in the path.

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    DynagripDynagrip Break me a million hearts HoustonRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    rhylith wrote: »
    I'm in Houston in a 3rd floor apartment and my car is parked in a garage so I should be ok. They expect the winds will have slowed enough by the time the storm reaches us, but it's gonna rain hard for like 3 days.

    My immediate area can flood. My apartment complex is elevated a little bit so during the tax day and Memorial Day floods we were basically on our own little island with only a couple inches of water in the parking lot.

    we were ok during the tax day flooding and the one a year later (or a year before, I forget) and the house that I bought made it through Allison. Pretty close to Braes Bayou though, and watching it come up can be a little harrowing. Would love to have a more detailed elevation map...which I can probably dig up on google in like 5 seconds. To the googles!

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    I look forward to seeing all the construction equipment on 290 just wash onto the roads.

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    AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    On the positive side these things tend to weaken pretty quickly when they touch land. What's scary to me about this one is how it's predicted to just park on the coast for a while and dump feet of rain. It doesn't even need to be a strong storm of any type with that setup, it's a recipe for catastrophe.

    Stay safe, Texans.

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    VishNubVishNub Registered User regular
    Dynagrip wrote: »
    rhylith wrote: »
    I'm in Houston in a 3rd floor apartment and my car is parked in a garage so I should be ok. They expect the winds will have slowed enough by the time the storm reaches us, but it's gonna rain hard for like 3 days.

    My immediate area can flood. My apartment complex is elevated a little bit so during the tax day and Memorial Day floods we were basically on our own little island with only a couple inches of water in the parking lot.

    we were ok during the tax day flooding and the one a year later (or a year before, I forget) and the house that I bought made it through Allison. Pretty close to Braes Bayou though, and watching it come up can be a little harrowing. Would love to have a more detailed elevation map...which I can probably dig up on google in like 5 seconds. To the googles!

    @Dynagrip

    Try mytopo.com

    Google maps also has a topo layer (terrain).

    Stay safe

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