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Marvel! Makes kids comic with Arms Company, forgets Iron Man's origin story.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Mr. G wrote: »
    Gosh now that I think about it Black Panther is fuckin' perfect for that kind of game

    He's a super acrobatic character so you can easily make him fun to move around with, there's a lot of weight to what he does, he has an enormous supporting cast to tap into

    I hope this movie is a huge hit to push something like that along
    Yeah like I am constantly mad I don't have my dream Iron Fist game or whatever

    But a Black Panther game seems almost tailor made to hit all of the boxes of what publishers want out of their big AAA action games right now while still remaining very true to the character and fuck it would be so cool

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    GR_ZombieGR_Zombie Krillin It Registered User regular
    What trade should I pick up if I want to see the best of Black Panther?

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    GR_Zombie wrote: »
    What trade should I pick up if I want to see the best of Black Panther?
    The current run by Ta-Nehisi Coates is very good and is likely to be a defining storyline for the character

    The other one I would recommend would be the first volume of Christopher Priest's run

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited October 2017
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Mr. G wrote: »
    Gosh now that I think about it Black Panther is fuckin' perfect for that kind of game

    He's a super acrobatic character so you can easily make him fun to move around with, there's a lot of weight to what he does, he has an enormous supporting cast to tap into

    I hope this movie is a huge hit to push something like that along
    Yeah like I am constantly mad I don't have my dream Iron Fist game or whatever

    But a Black Panther game seems almost tailor made to hit all of the boxes of what publishers want out of their big AAA action games right now while still remaining very true to the character and fuck it would be so cool

    Would your dream Iron Fist game be close to Godhand? Not the aesthetic, obviously, but the combat?

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Mr. G wrote: »
    Gosh now that I think about it Black Panther is fuckin' perfect for that kind of game

    He's a super acrobatic character so you can easily make him fun to move around with, there's a lot of weight to what he does, he has an enormous supporting cast to tap into

    I hope this movie is a huge hit to push something like that along
    Yeah like I am constantly mad I don't have my dream Iron Fist game or whatever

    But a Black Panther game seems almost tailor made to hit all of the boxes of what publishers want out of their big AAA action games right now while still remaining very true to the character and fuck it would be so cool

    Would your dream Iron Fist game be close to Godhand? Not the aesthetic, obviously, but the combat?
    I never actually played Godhand so I can't really say

    I think something like the Batman combat but more refined and with distinct styles would be ideal.

    Also it would have a main story starring Danny but flashback chapters where you played as past Iron Fists which would in turn unlock their specializations for Danny in the main plot

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited October 2017
    Pony wrote: »
    Black Panther's fighting style would perfectly suit the Arkham model, too

    like I mean you look at how Catwoman fights in an Arkham game and make it less weirdly sexualized

    no leave it exactly the same but with a male character doing it, like those Quiet/Ocelot model swap mods for MGSV
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Mr. G wrote: »
    Gosh now that I think about it Black Panther is fuckin' perfect for that kind of game

    He's a super acrobatic character so you can easily make him fun to move around with, there's a lot of weight to what he does, he has an enormous supporting cast to tap into

    I hope this movie is a huge hit to push something like that along
    Yeah like I am constantly mad I don't have my dream Iron Fist game or whatever

    But a Black Panther game seems almost tailor made to hit all of the boxes of what publishers want out of their big AAA action games right now while still remaining very true to the character and fuck it would be so cool

    I see, black panther is all about lootboxes and multiplayer you say

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Lootboxes sure but the biggest third person action games this year, Shadow of War, AC: Origins, Horizon and Zelda, ain't got no multiplayer!

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Shadow of War has multiplayer to an extent

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Shadow of War has multiplayer to an extent
    At best it has indirect multiplayer as you can mess with other people's shit but nothing that is actually playing against another human being

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular

    Cool

    Super rad

    Great work Spencer

    Good call publishing this, Marvel

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    Nick Spencer slowly turning into a corn cob for the rest of his career

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    David_TDavid_T A fashion yes-man is no good to me. Copenhagen, DenmarkRegistered User regular
    The one phrase that repeatedly comes to mind whenever I hear about this Nick Spencer Captain America thing continues to be

    "Dig up, stupid".

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    Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    marvel: still being petulant teens, did nothing wrong.

    spencer is their perfect poster child

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    GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    I'd be okay with a straight out ban on writers ever putting twitter/internet reactions in their comics.

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    Gustav wrote: »
    I'd be okay with a straight out ban on writers ever putting twitter/internet reactions in their comics.

    Make a Kieron Gillen exception clause and I'm on board

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    ArdolArdol Registered User regular
    That sure looks like an awful lot of those caricatures are of angry POC critics...

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    David_TDavid_T A fashion yes-man is no good to me. Copenhagen, DenmarkRegistered User regular
    Man, I was really liking the bit where we made up cool Marvel video games and then Nick Spencer.

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    Ardol wrote: »
    That sure looks like an awful lot of those caricatures are of angry POC critics...

    it almost looks like ALL of them are caricatures of people of color
    what a funny coincidence

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    GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    Nick Spencer answering the call on diversity in comics.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    I'm trying to figure out whether this restarts my "No Marvel Comics for a year" clock.

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    this pushes my opinion pretty far over towards "nick spencer isn't just dumb, he's actually an explicit racist and probably a nazi too"

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    this pushes my opinion pretty far over towards "nick spencer isn't just dumb, he's actually an explicit racist and probably a nazi too"

    I mean, you can't forget to add "thinskinned baby who cannot take criticism."

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    GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    Apparently he put his twitter on private. So at least some good of this has come.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Gustav wrote: »
    Apparently he put his twitter on private. So at least some good of this has come.

    His desperate defense of the event was pretty funny, if pathetic, at times.

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    GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    I'm just glad I won't see it slide into my timeline anymore.

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    I personally believe Nick Spencer is actually a racist and dog-whistles for white supremacy not just a stupid person who happens to write racist things by virtue of simple ignorance and privilege.

    There's just... too much underlying support for it. There's too much in the way of malicious clap-backs and sneering and anger. Too many times he's had really shitheaded viewpoints attributed to him. Plus, y'know, the whole racist political campaign he was involved in that he's never decried and won't publicly denounce or comment on.

    A person who says dumb things out of ignorance can be demonstrated to be dumb when their response to criticism is equally dumb and tone-deaf. When their response is to, for example, publish racist caricatures of their critics as they sneer at them, there's really not many other conclusions to draw.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Pony wrote: »
    I personally believe Nick Spencer is actually a racist and dog-whistles for white supremacy not just a stupid person who happens to write racist things by virtue of simple ignorance and privilege.

    There's just... too much underlying support for it. There's too much in the way of malicious clap-backs and sneering and anger. Too many times he's had really shitheaded viewpoints attributed to him. Plus, y'know, the whole racist political campaign he was involved in that he's never decried and won't publicly denounce or comment on.

    A person who says dumb things out of ignorance can be demonstrated to be dumb when their response to criticism is equally dumb and tone-deaf. When their response is to, for example, publish racist caricatures of their critics as they sneer at them, there's really not many other conclusions to draw.

    I would say that the argument is getting more and more convincing.

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    Desert LeviathanDesert Leviathan Registered User regular
    edited October 2017
    I want a base building game where you’re the contractor who makes super villain lairs. So your goal is to come in under budget, match the specific villain’s themes and aesthetics, and account for the powers of the heroes most likely to invade. And it gets harder later on as the heroes start bringing team-ups, or your employer runs afoul of totally new groups of heroes. So you make your badass dungeon for Dr. Doom that should be a hard counter to the Fantastic Four, but oh shit, the 90’s backup F4 showed up instead, and Spider-Man, Wolverine, Ghost Rider, and the Hulk are completely unimpressed by the standard trap array!

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited October 2017
    y'know

    Looking over the various blurbs on there

    one of them is "My roommate made $70 an hour working from home"

    This is a... weirdly specific comment trying to emulate a pretty particular form of internet comment spam that is particularly endemic to sites that use the Disqus comment platform

    Disqus is super popular but there's very specific sites that use it more than others. Gawker Media sites rely heavily on it, as does...

    Breitbart. In fact, Breitbart is famously rotten with these particular kinds of spambots because Breitbart is super light on moderation on account of being, y'know, Breitbart.

    Men's Rights Activist and white supremacist site Return of Kings also used Disqus until yesterday, when Disqus discontinued their services after they realized that they're actually a fucking hate site.

    Nick Spencer, where you hangin' out on the internet that you see this comment-spam come up often enough that you think this is a killer joke, buddy boy?

    Hrm?

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    I want a base building game where you’re the contractor who makes super villain lairs. So your goal is to come in under budget, match the specific villain’s themes and aesthetics, and account for the powers of the heroes most likely to invade. And it gets harder later on as the heroes start bringing team-ups, or your employer runs afoul of totally new groups of heroes. So you make your badass dungeon for Dr. Doom that should be a hard counter to the Fantastic Four, but oh shit, the 90’s backup F4 showed up instead, and Spider-Man, Wolverine, Ghost Rider, and the Hulk are completely unimpressed by the standard trap array!

    So, Dungeon Keeper, but super villain style?

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Here I thought Not Brand Ecch was supposed to be about Marvel poking fun at themselves

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    Crippl3Crippl3 oh noRegistered User regular
    edited October 2017
    "80,000 word essay"
    That looks like a very specific jab at Colin Spacetwinks on that page, holy shit that's sad lmao
    I want a base building game where you’re the contractor who makes super villain lairs. So your goal is to come in under budget, match the specific villain’s themes and aesthetics, and account for the powers of the heroes most likely to invade. And it gets harder later on as the heroes start bringing team-ups, or your employer runs afoul of totally new groups of heroes. So you make your badass dungeon for Dr. Doom that should be a hard counter to the Fantastic Four, but oh shit, the 90’s backup F4 showed up instead, and Spider-Man, Wolverine, Ghost Rider, and the Hulk are completely unimpressed by the standard trap array!

    So Evil Genius, but less 60s/70s-spy and more comic book? Fuckin rad.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Crippl3 wrote: »
    "80,000 word essay"
    That looks like a very specific jab at Colin Spacetwinks on that page, holy shit that's sad lmao
    I want a base building game where you’re the contractor who makes super villain lairs. So your goal is to come in under budget, match the specific villain’s themes and aesthetics, and account for the powers of the heroes most likely to invade. And it gets harder later on as the heroes start bringing team-ups, or your employer runs afoul of totally new groups of heroes. So you make your badass dungeon for Dr. Doom that should be a hard counter to the Fantastic Four, but oh shit, the 90’s backup F4 showed up instead, and Spider-Man, Wolverine, Ghost Rider, and the Hulk are completely unimpressed by the standard trap array!

    So Evil Genius, but less 60s/70s-spy and more comic book? Fuckin rad.

    That's the game I was reminded of!

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    Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Here I thought Not Brand Ecch was supposed to be about Marvel poking fun at themselves

    it's hard to make fun of yourself when you are already a joke

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    Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    Pony wrote: »
    Disqus is super popular but there's very specific sites that use it more than others. Gawker Media sites rely heavily on it, as does...

    Gawker uses Kinja

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    Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    oh tinfoil hat icarus, you flew too close to the sun

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited October 2017
    Keith wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    Disqus is super popular but there's very specific sites that use it more than others. Gawker Media sites rely heavily on it, as does...

    Gawker uses Kinja

    Well there you go!

    They did use Disqus at one time, my info is clearly out of date as I don't really go to Gawker sites anymore.

    Breitbart and RoK absolutely do (did, in RoK's case) use Disqus which uh

    uhhhhhh

    This is not to say "working from home" bots are unique to Disqus but as a platform they're rotten with them

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    CelloCello Registered User regular
    edited October 2017
    Thing is, even with the writing on that page, the images of people critiquing the reveal are so unnecessary

    The art could have easily included imitations of comment sections/tweets/whatever, it's not like that's out of the ordinary for comics; it would have still been petulant and unfunny but at least not racist

    And yet, they chose to use caricatures instead, with all but one or two of them being darker of skin colour than Not Cap here, portraying anyone that disagrees with Spencer as these horrific internet demons

    That is an intentional choice, and one that's absolutely disgusting

    Dig up, Marvel

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    Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    I know that kind of comment very well from years ot The AV Club, which used Disqus for like 8 years until earlier this year

    That line of thinking seems spurious

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