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Marvel! Makes kids comic with Arms Company, forgets Iron Man's origin story.

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    David_TDavid_T A fashion yes-man is no good to me. Copenhagen, DenmarkRegistered User regular
    edited November 2017
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Lizzy Caplan has been cast as the female lead in Gambit, no character name given.

    A Channing Tatum/Lizzy Caplan heist movie directed by Gore Verbinski?

    Gimme.

    Oh right, they're still making a Gambit movie.

    They claim.

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    honoverehonovere Registered User regular
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    https://www.cbr.com/marvel-wolverine-2018-return/
    Throughout the month, Logan will appear in “special after-credit scenes” found throughout some of Marvel’s “key” titles. The teaser panels will provide new information and clues as to the X-Man/Avenger’s current whereabouts and, as Marvel likes to say, “it’s all connected.”

    His startling secret is the reason for wearing that dumb hat. He's bald.

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    ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    Is it too much to hope for that those stupid Where is Wolverine things end up being a Where's Waldo-esque thing?

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    Is it too much to hope for that those stupid Where is Wolverine things end up being a Where's Waldo-esque thing?

    The segment was originally called Where is Badger in the original British version, but Marvel chose to localize it when they brought it over.

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    They're calling it post-credits because of their pathetic ongoing attempt to make the not hugely successful comics like the unbelievably successful movies by pandering to the movie's creative style over their own comic style.

    And it comes off as pretty desperate, of course, which is what they are really

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    I don't, like, hate it. It's just a glorified back-up story.

    But referring to it as after credits scenes and already calling him Wolverine instead of Logan when Laura is around rubs me the wrong way something fierce

    Like he ain't wearing the costume! Just call him Logan!

    The only successful legacy character Marvel has ever managed was one in which the original character carrying the name had already been dead for longer than most comic readers could read

    Laura was never going to really be Wolverine

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    GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    The incompetence of DC and Marvel being unable to make bank on comics with these billion dollar properties will always be the most astounding thing.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Gustav wrote: »
    The incompetence of DC and Marvel being unable to make bank on comics with these billion dollar properties will always be the most astounding thing.

    Why do they continue to have a distribution deal with Diamond? It seems to me from a pure logistics/money standpoint, that's the big hurdle.

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    GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    My biggest guess is that moving to something like an actual publisher would result in some changes of who's in charge.

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    TaminTamin Registered User regular
    Gustav wrote: »
    The incompetence of DC and Marvel being unable to make bank on comics with these billion dollar properties will always be the most astounding thing.

    What would 'bank' look like here? I'm assuming you don't mean that any particular property could generate a billion dollars for them over a reasonable timespan.

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    GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    I mean the comics themselves selling at numbers that are above what used to be historical cancellation figures.

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    PhillisherePhillishere Registered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Gustav wrote: »
    The incompetence of DC and Marvel being unable to make bank on comics with these billion dollar properties will always be the most astounding thing.

    Why do they continue to have a distribution deal with Diamond? It seems to me from a pure logistics/money standpoint, that's the big hurdle.

    Yeah. There are huge problems with how comics are distributed and marketed that go beyond any one company or editorial regime. Even having the big two publishers owned by two major entertainment companies hasn’t forced any change.

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    Dizzy DDizzy D NetherlandsRegistered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Gustav wrote: »
    The incompetence of DC and Marvel being unable to make bank on comics with these billion dollar properties will always be the most astounding thing.

    Why do they continue to have a distribution deal with Diamond? It seems to me from a pure logistics/money standpoint, that's the big hurdle.

    Ha, I just happen to be at that exact point in "Reinventing Comics" at the moment (picked it up a week or two ago). Keep in mind that it's nearly 20 years old at this point, but even then McCloud was already saying that the Direct Market, while working for a while, was now in dire need of changes. Digital distribution was not much of an option at this point (though it was starting out with things like keenspace and Crossgen's Comics on the Web) and McCloud doesn't have any fix all solution either at that point.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Frankly, they should be selling TPBs (and our anthology ideas) at every Disney store and Disney theme park store.

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    masterofmetroidmasterofmetroid Have you ever looked at a world and seen it as a kind of challenge?Registered User regular
    That would require Marvel to put a focus on *gasp* books that have more all ages appeal

    And we all know those don't do really well when they get good writing teams behind them or anything

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Frankly, that fanart of Disney Princess Avengers should have set shit going merchwise

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Frankly, that fanart of Disney Princess Avengers should have set shit going merchwise

    I'm pretty sure I know which way this is meant and I definitely want the other way.

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    GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    I think a large part of the problem is that Marvel and DC expect the movies to work as advertisement for their comics. When in reality it only advertises more movies.

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    XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    Bets on it being Bella Donna?

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    Dizzy DDizzy D NetherlandsRegistered User regular
    edited November 2017
    Gustav wrote: »
    I think a large part of the problem is that Marvel and DC expect the movies to work as advertisement for their comics. When in reality it only advertises more movies.

    Apparently it works for some comics, but only if you have something sellable on the shelves when the movie hits and the public can recognise that is the product they are looking for, so movies based on single graphic novels/trades did have some effect (was an article from a couple of years ago, but can't find it anymore. It also depended pretty much on which comic shop owner you were asking. Sales of Watchmen, 300, Scott Pilgrim and so on, did go up when the movie came out).
    But if you as a movie watcher go to Avengers or Justice League and then go to a comic shop: which of the dozens of trades do you pick up? Usually none of them look anything like the movie they just watched and enjoyed. And the actual movie tie-in comics, specially made for this kind of thing, well.. they tend to suck.

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    Hey, the first three episodes of Runaways are up on Hulu tomorrow, that kind of snuck up on me a little. Reviews have been pretty good so far, so I'm excited to check it out

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Season 5 trailer for Agents of SHIELD

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLHygq6Mm-0

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    DelduwathDelduwath Registered User regular
    Throughout the month, Logan will appear in “special after-credit scenes” found throughout some of Marvel’s “key” titles. The teaser panels will provide new information and clues as to the X-Man/Avenger’s current whereabouts and, as Marvel likes to say, “it’s all connected.”
    There's one way they can make this happen that I will applaud.

    Are any of you reading the new Doom Patrol? In some issues (I don't think it's every one, but I could be wrong), they have a single page to catch up with Niles Caulder, and it's just him doing random and/or weird stuff unrelated to what's going on in the rest of the issue. Like this:
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    That's what I want them to do with Wolverine. They don't even have to go too weird.

    A page of him eating a Philly cheese steak.
    A page of him playing chess against an alligator.
    A page of him having an existential crisis in front of A Sunday Afternoon on the Island of La Grande Jatte.
    A page of him asleep under a tree.

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    Psychotic OnePsychotic One The Lord of No Pants Parts UnknownRegistered User regular
    Delduwath wrote: »
    Throughout the month, Logan will appear in “special after-credit scenes” found throughout some of Marvel’s “key” titles. The teaser panels will provide new information and clues as to the X-Man/Avenger’s current whereabouts and, as Marvel likes to say, “it’s all connected.”
    There's one way they can make this happen that I will applaud.

    Are any of you reading the new Doom Patrol? In some issues (I don't think it's every one, but I could be wrong), they have a single page to catch up with Niles Caulder, and it's just him doing random and/or weird stuff unrelated to what's going on in the rest of the issue. Like this:
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    That's what I want them to do with Wolverine. They don't even have to go too weird.

    A page of him eating a Philly cheese steak.
    A page of him playing chess against an alligator.
    A page of him having an existential crisis in front of A Sunday Afternoon on the Island of La Grande Jatte.
    A page of him asleep under a tree.

    A page where he loses a drinking contest to Doop.

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    oh hey, Hulu is showing me the first episode of Runaways right now

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    Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    yeah that's what's dope about being west coast

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    AtomicTofuAtomicTofu She's a straight-up supervillain, yo Registered User regular
    I liked that first episode

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    TaminTamin Registered User regular
    signed up for hulu and am watching Runaways

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    DelduwathDelduwath Registered User regular
    Delduwath wrote: »
    Throughout the month, Logan will appear in “special after-credit scenes” found throughout some of Marvel’s “key” titles. The teaser panels will provide new information and clues as to the X-Man/Avenger’s current whereabouts and, as Marvel likes to say, “it’s all connected.”
    There's one way they can make this happen that I will applaud.

    Are any of you reading the new Doom Patrol? In some issues (I don't think it's every one, but I could be wrong), they have a single page to catch up with Niles Caulder, and it's just him doing random and/or weird stuff unrelated to what's going on in the rest of the issue. Like this:
    Doom-Patrol-1-Page-18.jpg
    6f442476b3906a83b4ce7bb2f8b07c80--doom-patrol.jpg
    DPv6_002_008.jpg

    That's what I want them to do with Wolverine. They don't even have to go too weird.

    A page of him eating a Philly cheese steak.
    A page of him playing chess against an alligator.
    A page of him having an existential crisis in front of A Sunday Afternoon on the Island of La Grande Jatte.
    A page of him asleep under a tree.

    A page where he loses a drinking contest to Doop.
    I'd save that for an entire issue.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
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    Cap is getting frozen again and waking up in a post apocalyptic future by a new squad of Howling Commandos

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    wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    Will he be in current team books still?

    I'M NOT FINISHED WITH YOU!!!
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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    I don't believe Steve was in any current team books before this?

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    wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    I don't believe Steve was in any current team books before this?

    OK, didn’t know.

    Not against this idea that’s for sure.

    I'M NOT FINISHED WITH YOU!!!
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    ArmorocArmoroc Registered User regular
    It would be funny if the only reason he didn't get de-iced at aaalll for that story was because all the other heroes just forgot (or didn't care anymore :rotate:) about Captain America.

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    Kevin CristKevin Crist I make the devil hit his knees and say the 'our father'Registered User regular
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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    So is that basically how they sidestep Cap is a Nazi? "Oh, the year where Cap and the United States was Nazis coincidentally becomes lost to time!"

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    So is that basically how they sidestep Cap is a Nazi? "Oh, the year where Cap and the United States was Nazis coincidentally becomes lost to time!"
    What?

    No, this is set after Secret Empire

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    So is that basically how they sidestep Cap is a Nazi? "Oh, the year where Cap and the United States was Nazis coincidentally becomes lost to time!"
    What?

    No, this is set after Secret Empire

    Yeah, that's my point. Most books would have to acknowledge Secret Empire, but this way, they can kind of wipe it away.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    So is that basically how they sidestep Cap is a Nazi? "Oh, the year where Cap and the United States was Nazis coincidentally becomes lost to time!"
    What?

    No, this is set after Secret Empire

    Yeah, that's my point. Most books would have to acknowledge Secret Empire, but this way, they can kind of wipe it away.
    The first issue of the run was all about Cap post Secret Empire

    Like I don't particularly like it, but they aren't shying away from it

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
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    Oh christ I forgot they were doing this incredibly dumb thing

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