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Out of pocket maximums

minirhyderminirhyder BerlinRegistered User regular
Hello,

I've had a couple of medical procedures done over the last few months, with another one coming up this week. After it's done, I will have reached my out of pocket maximum. At that point I should be done with the medical procedures I need.

Since everything will be covered once I reach my out of pocket maximums, I kinda want to spend spend spend on healthcare because why not. I was thinking of seeing a cardiologist and a neurologist, just to check on my organs and such.

Is this a stupid idea? Should I just continue living my life and not worry about getting all the possible healthcare before the end of the year since it'll be free?

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Check for other limits. There might be a lifetime and annual limit for "nonessential" stuff. IE, if you're not being referred to the doctor by another, it might be seen as nonessential.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    Not knowing about Bowen's specific insight, but to recommend a service: I'm not sure if a neurologist would or wouldn't be helpful, but if you find you DO have good coverage for non-essential services and you're getting toward your 30's or beyond, a not-useless doctor's visit is to the dermatologist. You have to make an appointment, but the dermatologist will check you head to toe for possible early melanomas or indications of such.

    What is this I don't even.
  • zepherinzepherin Russian warship, go fuck yourself Registered User regular
    Also genetic testing, they can see if you have certain genes that can cause cancer and various other issues, and getting knowledge up front is literally the difference between life and death. I have a friend who has the gene for skin cancer, and has had 2 precancerous growths removed because he knew of the genetic issues, so whenever something pops up he gets it removed immediately.

  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    minirhyder wrote: »
    Hello,

    I've had a couple of medical procedures done over the last few months, with another one coming up this week. After it's done, I will have reached my out of pocket maximum. At that point I should be done with the medical procedures I need.

    Since everything will be covered once I reach my out of pocket maximums, I kinda want to spend spend spend on healthcare because why not. I was thinking of seeing a cardiologist and a neurologist, just to check on my organs and such.

    Is this a stupid idea? Should I just continue living my life and not worry about getting all the possible healthcare before the end of the year since it'll be free?

    That really sounds like a discussion to have with your primary doctor. Most of them will completely understand your situation and help you figure out what would be worthwhile. If they don't understand why the insurance structure means you want to do this....well I would find a different doctor.
    bowen wrote: »
    Check for other limits. There might be a lifetime and annual limit for "nonessential" stuff. IE, if you're not being referred to the doctor by another, it might be seen as nonessential.

    Thought those were out for most silver level and above plans, at least for actual health insurance. They're a thing in other, less regulated, insurances like dental or vision.

    Nod. Get treat. PSN: Quippish
  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited September 2017
    bowen wrote: »
    Check for other limits. There might be a lifetime and annual limit for "nonessential" stuff. IE, if you're not being referred to the doctor by another, it might be seen as nonessential.

    Thought those were out for most silver level and above plans, at least for actual health insurance. They're a thing in other, less regulated, insurances like dental or vision.

    They're illegal for legit medical care you need. But if you just hit your OOP max for the year and decide to "top yourself off" you can hit those other limits.

    https://www.healthcare.gov/health-care-law-protections/lifetime-and-yearly-limits/

    If your insurance doesn't think you needed it (ie, you don't have a referral from your PCP/GP) they can tack it onto your lifetime limits. Though that only applies to non-essential services in general. They may not though.

    bowen on
    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • CelestialBadgerCelestialBadger Registered User regular
    Doctors will think you are weird if you waste their time with hypochondria. Just get any nagging issues like back pain or warts sorted out.

  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    Maybe get your physical plus a stress test early if you can? That may point to cardiovascular issues. And then your PCP can give you a legit referral to a cardiologist.

    I'm not sure how you can see a neurologist and it be covered unless you actually have a problem that requires it. And even if it's free, I'm not sure why you'd want radiation shot into your head if you aren't presenting issues.

    I wouldn't try to milk an out-of-pocket maximum situation for anything more than health check situations. Visiting either a cardiologist or neurologist is not a normal health check situation; there is usually a referring doctor or some immediate presentation of symptoms that justify the visit.

  • KetarKetar Registered User regular
    zepherin wrote: »
    Also genetic testing, they can see if you have certain genes that can cause cancer and various other issues, and getting knowledge up front is literally the difference between life and death. I have a friend who has the gene for skin cancer, and has had 2 precancerous growths removed because he knew of the genetic issues, so whenever something pops up he gets it removed immediately.

    Most plans will not cover genetic testing at all without what they consider to be a valid reason for getting the test. I don't think hitting your out-of-pocket max will help you when the bill comes due in that situation.

  • WindburnWindburn Registered User regular
    Here's the problem with looking for things: if you try hard enough, you'll find something. The question then becomes, what to do about it?

    If I gave you a full body CT/MRI, I can pretty much guarantee I will find something "wrong". Maybe a bulging disc. A renal cyst. Colonic diverticuli. Mildly enlarged lateral cerebral ventricles. Etc. All of these are common and can be completely benign, especially in the absence of symptoms. But once we know we have "something wrong" we feel compelled to do "something" about it. This leads to unnecessary intervention with risks of side effects and complications.

    I realize you feel like you have a bit of a blank check and don't want to lose the opportunity. My suggestion is to echo previous responses and talk to your PCP. Make sure you are up to date (age appropriate) with all your vaccinations, annual exam, blood work, PAP, colonoscopy, etc.

    Dermatology is a great screening recommendation, if you are at risk. Most people are: Have you ever had a single blistering sun burn? Used a tanning bed? Have more than a couple moles? If you answered yes to any of those questions, congrats: You are at increased risk for developing melanoma and should have skin checks by a physician regularly.

    Unfortunately, you might have a hard time getting in to see a dermatologist as a new patient before the end of the year. Many offices are booked our months in advance, especially toward the end of the year, for the same reason as you. It doesn't hurt to call though.

    TL;DR - Stick to recommended healthcare surveillance timelines unless you are having a problem. Then get seen sooner, for that problem only.

  • minirhyderminirhyder BerlinRegistered User regular
    Just ordered a 23andme genetic test, thanks for the idea @zepherin.

    I've already been to all the "standard" doctors for checkups (ob/gyn, pcp, GI, dermatologist), so I'm all good there.

    I guess I'll just let it be and be grateful for being pretty healthy (barring any scary results from the genetic test).

    Thanks all!

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