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  • JazzJazz UKRegistered User regular
    Krathoon wrote: »
    The aliens are fancier than Star Trek.

    Some of them are fancier than Star Wars.

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  • evilbobevilbob Registered User regular
    Just watched S2E1. The Claire/Isaac/kids stuff is my favourite part of this show.

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  • jammujammu Sorry honey, I'm working late again. Registered User regular
    I love my favourite straightman.

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  • jammujammu Sorry honey, I'm working late again. Registered User regular
    Speaking of which, What an episode.

    Lot of good Science on my scifi show and
    Alien Gay-porn. Yum.

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  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    I missed yesterday's episode.

  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    edited January 4
    Krathoon wrote: »
    I missed yesterday's episode.

    It was good. It definitely makes more sense if it was part of last season though. Also theres a weird out of nowhere Issac slam that made no sense.

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    Krathoon wrote: »
    I missed yesterday's episode.

    It was good. It definitely makes more sense if it was part of last season though. Also theres a weird out of nowhere Issac slam that made no sense.
    I think it worked better in the new season to give the resentment some time to build in Bortus's family. I think if they had put this one in the last season, this arc would have felt too rushed. Like "Hey, we have a kid! Hey, the kid is female in an all male society, Hey, I resent the fact that you allowed the surgery to be done on our kid and have developed a massive holo-porn addiction to compensate" all in one season feels like a lot of focus on one main character and a recurring character.

    Brief thought on Moklon divorce.
    Am I reading too much into it to assume it's a slam on the general toxic masculinity of a male culture that they'd be cool with the idea that being fatally stabbed constitutes a reasonable divorce procedure, but never come up with the idea of sitting down and talking about the feelings that might lead to that stabbing? Like, the entire culture of guys would sooner get stabbed in the heart then sit down and talk about getting their feelings hurt or feeling disrespected in their marriage.

    Ringo wrote: »
    Well except what see317 said. That guy's always wrong.
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  • CptHamiltonCptHamilton Registered User regular
    see317 wrote: »
    Krathoon wrote: »
    I missed yesterday's episode.

    It was good. It definitely makes more sense if it was part of last season though. Also theres a weird out of nowhere Issac slam that made no sense.
    I think it worked better in the new season to give the resentment some time to build in Bortus's family. I think if they had put this one in the last season, this arc would have felt too rushed. Like "Hey, we have a kid! Hey, the kid is female in an all male society, Hey, I resent the fact that you allowed the surgery to be done on our kid and have developed a massive holo-porn addiction to compensate" all in one season feels like a lot of focus on one main character and a recurring character.

    Brief thought on Moklon divorce.
    Am I reading too much into it to assume it's a slam on the general toxic masculinity of a male culture that they'd be cool with the idea that being fatally stabbed constitutes a reasonable divorce procedure, but never come up with the idea of sitting down and talking about the feelings that might lead to that stabbing? Like, the entire culture of guys would sooner get stabbed in the heart then sit down and talk about getting their feelings hurt or feeling disrespected in their marriage.
    They only pee once a year. Keeping things pent up seems to be The Moklon Way.

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    see317 wrote: »
    Krathoon wrote: »
    I missed yesterday's episode.

    It was good. It definitely makes more sense if it was part of last season though. Also theres a weird out of nowhere Issac slam that made no sense.
    I think it worked better in the new season to give the resentment some time to build in Bortus's family. I think if they had put this one in the last season, this arc would have felt too rushed. Like "Hey, we have a kid! Hey, the kid is female in an all male society, Hey, I resent the fact that you allowed the surgery to be done on our kid and have developed a massive holo-porn addiction to compensate" all in one season feels like a lot of focus on one main character and a recurring character.

    Brief thought on Moklon divorce.
    Am I reading too much into it to assume it's a slam on the general toxic masculinity of a male culture that they'd be cool with the idea that being fatally stabbed constitutes a reasonable divorce procedure, but never come up with the idea of sitting down and talking about the feelings that might lead to that stabbing? Like, the entire culture of guys would sooner get stabbed in the heart then sit down and talk about getting their feelings hurt or feeling disrespected in their marriage.

    It's definitely that and a commentary on how stupid Klingon culture can be if viewed from a non fan perspective.

    Fun fact there are like 3 recurring female klingons in all of star trek. All 3 die.

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  • MorganVMorganV Registered User regular
    see317 wrote: »
    Krathoon wrote: »
    I missed yesterday's episode.

    It was good. It definitely makes more sense if it was part of last season though. Also theres a weird out of nowhere Issac slam that made no sense.
    I think it worked better in the new season to give the resentment some time to build in Bortus's family. I think if they had put this one in the last season, this arc would have felt too rushed. Like "Hey, we have a kid! Hey, the kid is female in an all male society, Hey, I resent the fact that you allowed the surgery to be done on our kid and have developed a massive holo-porn addiction to compensate" all in one season feels like a lot of focus on one main character and a recurring character.

    Brief thought on Moklon divorce.
    Am I reading too much into it to assume it's a slam on the general toxic masculinity of a male culture that they'd be cool with the idea that being fatally stabbed constitutes a reasonable divorce procedure, but never come up with the idea of sitting down and talking about the feelings that might lead to that stabbing? Like, the entire culture of guys would sooner get stabbed in the heart then sit down and talk about getting their feelings hurt or feeling disrespected in their marriage.

    It's definitely that and a commentary on how stupid Klingon culture can be if viewed from a non fan perspective.

    Fun fact there are like 3 recurring female klingons in all of star trek. All 3 die.

    To be fair, there's been like 300 recurring male Klingons, and all but a handful die.

    Sure, female Klingons deserve more screen time and recognition, but their death rate is hardly exceptional. The race are essentially tall hard-headed lemmings, with honor being the cliff.

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  • BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    There is only 1 reoccurring Ferangi female, and she is a boss. No one steps to momma Ishka

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  • Big DookieBig Dookie Smells great! Houston, TXRegistered User regular
    Krathoon wrote: »
    I missed yesterday's episode.

    It was good. It definitely makes more sense if it was part of last season though. Also theres a weird out of nowhere Issac slam that made no sense.

    Particularly when the slam was coming from Bortus of all people. It's not like Isaac was entirely wrong either. Bortus was probably "more" right, but he didn't need to be such a dick about it.

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  • MorganVMorganV Registered User regular
    Big Dookie wrote: »
    Krathoon wrote: »
    I missed yesterday's episode.

    It was good. It definitely makes more sense if it was part of last season though. Also theres a weird out of nowhere Issac slam that made no sense.

    Particularly when the slam was coming from Bortus of all people. It's not like Isaac was entirely wrong either. Bortus was probably "more" right, but he didn't need to be such a dick about it.

    Oh. I thought @King Riptor was referring to Mercer's Speak-n-Spell statement.

    I thought Bortus was making a deserved slam about Isaac's limited understanding.

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    MorganV wrote: »
    Big Dookie wrote: »
    Krathoon wrote: »
    I missed yesterday's episode.

    It was good. It definitely makes more sense if it was part of last season though. Also theres a weird out of nowhere Issac slam that made no sense.

    Particularly when the slam was coming from Bortus of all people. It's not like Isaac was entirely wrong either. Bortus was probably "more" right, but he didn't need to be such a dick about it.

    Oh. I thought @King Riptor was referring to Mercer's Speak-n-Spell statement.

    I thought Bortus was making a deserved slam about Isaac's limited understanding.

    I meant Mercer yeah. Bortus was fully justified and Isaac should know better at this point

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  • Big DookieBig Dookie Smells great! Houston, TXRegistered User regular
    Ah okay, I must have totally missed that comment then I guess.

    Still, regarding the exchange I was referring to:
    Isaac made the suggestion, based on his understanding of evolution and "survival of the fittest" that only the best of the best should be chosen to bring along on the shuttle. Which yes, is wrong and not really ethical, but Isaac is still learning and part of his experience is understanding why it's not really the best solution. That's all true, and Bortus was right to point out that it was wrong, but something about the way he did it rubbed me the wrong way, especially coming from the guy who is basically cheating on his mate and lying to his superiors.

    For someone who's behavior was pretty abhorrent the entire episode, the attitude of moral superiority just bothered me a lot in that moment.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    The holodeck bit reminded me of my job.
    Oh hey, you downloaded porn from somewhere you don't know and trust and now your system is on fire. Good job.

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  • Big DookieBig Dookie Smells great! Houston, TXRegistered User regular
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    The holodeck bit reminded me of my job.
    Oh hey, you downloaded porn from somewhere you don't know and trust and now your system is on fire. Good job.

    Hey, we've all been there, am I right guys?

    ...

    Uh, right?

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  • jammujammu Sorry honey, I'm working late again. Registered User regular
    Download your porn from legitimate union porn providers.

    Bootleg porn, not even once.

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited January 5
    Reg Barclay taken to the logical conclusion. You know where he was going with that "goddess of empathy" program if Riker and Geordi didn't walk in on his foreplay.
    Krathoon wrote: »
    I missed yesterday's episode.

    It was good. It definitely makes more sense if it was part of last season though. Also theres a weird out of nowhere Issac slam that made no sense.

    I disagree.
    We see the impetus of their marriage starting to crack, but the level of disconnection and brooding that Bortus has fallen into doesn't happen quickly. He hasn't just withdrawn from his mate, he's retreated so far into an addiction that he's one step above rock bottom, retreating from the rest of his life because there's nothing left of the part he's trying to escape from.
    Rock bottom is buying bootleg gay alien orgy porn from a four armed half rhino/half orchid alien and picking up some horrible malware.

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  • ViskodViskod Registered User regular
    This episode was completely unbelievable.

    Somebody paid for pornography.

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    It's not your fault, Viskod. 1 out of every 10 people just happens to be a monster.
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  • CptHamiltonCptHamilton Registered User regular
    Viskod wrote: »
    This episode was completely unbelievable.

    Somebody paid for pornography.

    When you want the weird shit sometimes you’ve gotta pay.

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  • JazzJazz UKRegistered User regular
    edited January 5
    Of all the scenarios, that was the one considered the most extreme for a Moclan.

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  • CptHamiltonCptHamilton Registered User regular
    Jazz wrote: »
    Of all the scenarios, that was the one considered the most extreme for a Moclan.

    The whole episode I was desperately hoping he’d walk into the Not Holodeck and find an office with a black faux-leather couch then cut scene.

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  • RickRudeRickRude Registered User regular
    My mom saw the first episode of season one, maybe the second, and hated it for how silly it was. She watched episode one and 2 of season 2 and is finding herself liking the show. It's one of my favorites on right now.

  • templewulftemplewulf The Team Chump USARegistered User regular
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    Viskod wrote: »
    This episode was completely unbelievable.

    Somebody paid for pornography.

    I was going to make a joke about how porn hub doesn't have simulations, but then I realized of *course* they do. I bet there's a VR app on there right now.

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  • templewulftemplewulf The Team Chump USARegistered User regular
    We were a little weirded out about how far the show went to excuse Bortus' behavior. He lied to his superiors, (kinda?) cheated on his spouse, and almost got everyone killed!

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    templewulf wrote: »
    We were a little weirded out about how far the show went to excuse Bortus' behavior. He lied to his superiors, (kinda?) cheated on his spouse, and almost got everyone killed!
    I feel like he should have at least gotten a sanction or whatever they give but he did also go on a suicide mission with no complaints. That and his mental state are probably why he got a pass

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited January 5
    Star Trek rule of discipline: all's well that ends well. Unless you're Harry Kim, then you have two files because of all the formal reprimands.

    "Lieutenant Barclay, you have improperly used the likenesses of your superiors, hijacked this ship, destroyed many of its vital systems, and ejected us beyond the edges of the known galaxy. However, you've made great strides to control your transporter phobia, so let's call this one a freebie."

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  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    Issac was a real prick in this episode. His race has developed arrogance.

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  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    MorganV wrote: »
    Big Dookie wrote: »
    Krathoon wrote: »
    I missed yesterday's episode.

    It was good. It definitely makes more sense if it was part of last season though. Also theres a weird out of nowhere Issac slam that made no sense.

    Particularly when the slam was coming from Bortus of all people. It's not like Isaac was entirely wrong either. Bortus was probably "more" right, but he didn't need to be such a dick about it.

    Oh. I thought @King Riptor was referring to Mercer's Speak-n-Spell statement.

    I thought Bortus was making a deserved slam about Isaac's limited understanding.

    Mercer's Speak-n-Spell statement was just him blowing off some steam. Issac can be annoying to deal with.

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  • MorganVMorganV Registered User regular
    Krathoon wrote: »
    MorganV wrote: »
    Big Dookie wrote: »
    Krathoon wrote: »
    I missed yesterday's episode.

    It was good. It definitely makes more sense if it was part of last season though. Also theres a weird out of nowhere Issac slam that made no sense.

    Particularly when the slam was coming from Bortus of all people. It's not like Isaac was entirely wrong either. Bortus was probably "more" right, but he didn't need to be such a dick about it.

    Oh. I thought @King Riptor was referring to Mercer's Speak-n-Spell statement.

    I thought Bortus was making a deserved slam about Isaac's limited understanding.

    Mercer's Speak-n-Spell statement was just him blowing off some steam. Issac can be annoying to deal with.

    Oh, I didn't think it was wholely undeserved. Isaac's a dick. And the line coming out of nowhere and the delivery of it was IMO the funniest moment of the episode.

    Just that it came out of nowhere, whereas Bortus's criticism had some significant "in the moment" justification to it.

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  • autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    I wish this season would do a bit more of the sci-fi plots and a bit less of the relationship plots.

    It's important to develop the characters, but I'm just not having that much fun having 80% of an episode dedicated to
    Seth's take on porn addiction
    and only 20% on the outside plot.

    So far, both episodes have barely anything other happening than relationships

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  • Ninja Snarl PNinja Snarl P My helmet is my burden. Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered User regular
    Krathoon wrote: »
    Issac was a real prick in this episode. His race has developed arrogance.

    He's the only representative of his race in the Union, and everyone in his race thinks they are flat-out superior to biological life in every way. Arrogance is basically their default existence, they just wouldn't even see it that way.

    I think it's more that Isaac is developing an actual sense of sass, and is now intentionally making sarcastic remarks over just misunderstanding things. It might be thinking to much into it, but he's certainly developing rudimentary preferences when it comes to people; he's a synthetic superbrain with plenty of work to do, yet decided to spend some of his limited time getting the son of his colleague out of trouble.

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    Krathoon wrote: »
    Issac was a real prick in this episode. His race has developed arrogance.

    He's the only representative of his race in the Union, and everyone in his race thinks they are flat-out superior to biological life in every way. Arrogance is basically their default existence, they just wouldn't even see it that way.

    I think it's more that Isaac is developing an actual sense of sass, and is now intentionally making sarcastic remarks over just misunderstanding things. It might be thinking to much into it, but he's certainly developing rudimentary preferences when it comes to people; he's a synthetic superbrain with plenty of work to do, yet decided to spend some of his limited time getting the son of his colleague out of trouble.

    I would argue that his spending time with the doctor and her family is part of him doing his job. He's not only there to be the science officer of the Orville, he's also there (maybe primarily there) to observe and evaluate how the biological people operate on every level for his race. Having the opportunity to observe a family unit in a school setting would certainly get him a perspective on that front that could not be achieved by sitting at a console on the bridge.

    Ringo wrote: »
    Well except what see317 said. That guy's always wrong.
  • autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    Krathoon wrote: »
    Issac was a real prick in this episode. His race has developed arrogance.

    He's the only representative of his race in the Union, and everyone in his race thinks they are flat-out superior to biological life in every way. Arrogance is basically their default existence, they just wouldn't even see it that way.

    I think it's more that Isaac is developing an actual sense of sass, and is now intentionally making sarcastic remarks over just misunderstanding things. It might be thinking to much into it, but he's certainly developing rudimentary preferences when it comes to people; he's a synthetic superbrain with plenty of work to do, yet decided to spend some of his limited time getting the son of his colleague out of trouble.
    see317 wrote: »
    Krathoon wrote: »
    Issac was a real prick in this episode. His race has developed arrogance.

    He's the only representative of his race in the Union, and everyone in his race thinks they are flat-out superior to biological life in every way. Arrogance is basically their default existence, they just wouldn't even see it that way.

    I think it's more that Isaac is developing an actual sense of sass, and is now intentionally making sarcastic remarks over just misunderstanding things. It might be thinking to much into it, but he's certainly developing rudimentary preferences when it comes to people; he's a synthetic superbrain with plenty of work to do, yet decided to spend some of his limited time getting the son of his colleague out of trouble.

    I would argue that his spending time with the doctor and her family is part of him doing his job. He's not only there to be the science officer of the Orville, he's also there (maybe primarily there) to observe and evaluate how the biological people operate on every level for his race. Having the opportunity to observe a family unit in a school setting would certainly get him a perspective on that front that could not be achieved by sitting at a console on the bridge.

    I also think him asking about
    sexuality
    might lead to him wondering if he should explore that seeing how much of a driving force it is in biological beings

    Plus, I'm just guessing here, I'm pretty sure Isaac's people could have emotions if they really wanted. If you're an artificial life form that complete, not having emotions is basically a deliberate choice at some point.

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    Krathoon wrote: »
    Issac was a real prick in this episode. His race has developed arrogance.

    He's the only representative of his race in the Union, and everyone in his race thinks they are flat-out superior to biological life in every way. Arrogance is basically their default existence, they just wouldn't even see it that way.

    I think it's more that Isaac is developing an actual sense of sass, and is now intentionally making sarcastic remarks over just misunderstanding things. It might be thinking to much into it, but he's certainly developing rudimentary preferences when it comes to people; he's a synthetic superbrain with plenty of work to do, yet decided to spend some of his limited time getting the son of his colleague out of trouble.
    see317 wrote: »
    Krathoon wrote: »
    Issac was a real prick in this episode. His race has developed arrogance.

    He's the only representative of his race in the Union, and everyone in his race thinks they are flat-out superior to biological life in every way. Arrogance is basically their default existence, they just wouldn't even see it that way.

    I think it's more that Isaac is developing an actual sense of sass, and is now intentionally making sarcastic remarks over just misunderstanding things. It might be thinking to much into it, but he's certainly developing rudimentary preferences when it comes to people; he's a synthetic superbrain with plenty of work to do, yet decided to spend some of his limited time getting the son of his colleague out of trouble.

    I would argue that his spending time with the doctor and her family is part of him doing his job. He's not only there to be the science officer of the Orville, he's also there (maybe primarily there) to observe and evaluate how the biological people operate on every level for his race. Having the opportunity to observe a family unit in a school setting would certainly get him a perspective on that front that could not be achieved by sitting at a console on the bridge.

    I also think him asking about
    sexuality
    might lead to him wondering if he should explore that seeing how much of a driving force it is in biological beings

    Plus, I'm just guessing here, I'm pretty sure Isaac's people could have emotions if they really wanted. If you're an artificial life form that complete, not having emotions is basically a deliberate choice at some point.

    You know he stuck around in the Gardens of Ecstasy for a while.

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  • RT800RT800 Registered User regular
    edited January 6
    Seems like the sci-fi story in a show like this should be the "A" plot of any given episode, with relationship drama relegated to the "B" plot. With occasional exceptions, of course.
    The whole dying-planet thing felt kinda phoned-in. Everyone seemed super chill despite having made first-contact with aliens mere hours before the extinction of their race and destruction of their planet.

    Also with the whole "we can only fit so many in the shuttle" thing you'd think they'd have been packed in like sardines. There was so much extra room.

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  • DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    I gotta say, Dann is really growing on me.

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  • SorceSorce Registered User regular
    Do we really need to keep hearing about the Moclans, though?

    Like, really?

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    Sorce wrote: »
    Do we really need to keep hearing about the Moclans, though?

    Like, really?

    Mercer would say no.

    I like that they explore how a weird homoerotic S&M warrior culture would actually look to outside observers.

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