As was foretold, we've added advertisements to the forums! If you have questions, or if you encounter any bugs, please visit this thread: https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/240191/forum-advertisement-faq-and-reports-thread/
We're funding a new Acquisitions Incorporated series on Kickstarter right now! Check it out at https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pennyarcade/acquisitions-incorporated-the-series-2

[FFRK] Renewal Dungeons - the reopening of old weekly content. Tons of it!

11415171920100

Posts

  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    Narbus wrote: »
    100 gems: bupkiss.
    50 mythril: 3/11 BSBs for Ceodore, Rydia, and Mog! I finally have a decent mage BSB!

    Also f da haters, Ceodore's BSB is solid. Extra healing is gonna he great when the dark magicite dungeon hits.

    I will hold off judging until I try having him solo heal a team in crystal tower. If he fails i will go back to hating though.

  • Gnome-InterruptusGnome-Interruptus Registered User regular
    I really wanted Bartz BSB3, so I sacrificed 100 gems to the gold orb god, and began pulling.

    1st pull: Relm bsb, Celes BSB2, dupe Celes bsb2
    2nd pull: dupe Bartz USB, Terra USB
    3rd pull: Ceodore bsb
    4th pull: Bartz bsb3!!

    Bartz now has his unique, ssb, bsb1, bsb2, bsb3, OSB, and USB :D

    steam_sig.png
    MWO: Adamski
    Knight_RiusSpectrumElderlycrawfishTNTrooperDarklyreJragghensilence1186StiltsArdorGnizmoWyvernFryNarbusLuq
  • SpectrumSpectrum Archer of Inferno Chaldea Rec RoomRegistered User regular
    All right, this is my big banner. Not saying how this goes is going to make or break my fest (already somewhat sketch) but...yeah.

    Coming in:
    5 loved - Terra USB, Bartz USB, Faris USB, Bartz BSB3, Celes BSB2
    2 desired - Rosa BSB, Rydia BSB
    4 meh - PCecil USB, Gogo BSB, Golbez BSB, Locke BSB
    3 dupes - Relm BSB, Mog BSB, Ceodore BSB

    100 Gem: 4*

    That's fine.

    Mythril Pull 1:
    ItTMrcQl.png

    That's not promising.

    OUgULDcl.png

    Ew and ew.

    5 loved, 2 desired, 3 meh, 4 dupes

    Mythril Pull 2:
    5kdlDFHl.png

    Okay, finally, that's something.

    XiBCJhsl.png

    FUCK OFF DENA

    Holy shit how often are you going to spook me on these fucking banners

    last fest on my big banner I had 2/4 discos loved, 1/4 meh, 1/4 dupe and you gave me two more copies of the dupe

    arrrrrrgh at least it's a 6* holy sword I guess...and another dark staff I don't need...

    5 loved, 2 desired, 1 meh, 6 dupes

    Gem Pull 3:
    UiA4x6Vl.png

    Average again...

    JUz3B7Zl.png

    Well then. I guess Butz is getting that second reserved Legend Dive then. Sorry Refia.

    4 loved, 2 desired, 1 meh, 7 dupes

    *looks very hard at balance of owned vs dupes*

    Ugh. Nope, can't do it. Missed Celes BSB2 probably forever, missed Terra USB again. Really would've liked the Earth relics here to help out Hydra but it's just too dangerous to keep pulling and I'm down to gems at this point.

    Summary:

    100 Gem: 4*
    50 Mythril Pull 1: 2/11 - Mog BSB (dupe), Locke BSB
    50 Mythril Pull 2: 2/11 - PCecil USB, Golbez BSB
    3000 Gems Pull 3: 2/11 - Bartz USB, Ceodore BSB (dupe)

    First two EX Modes finally, even if only one I actually care about. At least next time IV Torment rolls around I can get that 3CM done I guess as that's the bare minimum of what I was looking for to make Cecil take Celes's spot.

    To date:
    Healer: 4/11 - Larsa BSB, Eiko BSB, Relm BSB, Ceodore BSB
    BSB+: 3/11 - Rosa USB, Auron BSB, Barret BSB
    6*: 2/11 - Penelo USB, Fang OSB
    30x Pull: 2/30 - Bartz OSB, Emperor SSB
    Banner 1 100 Gem: Ingus BSB

    EhDCSSZl.png

    XNnw6Gk.jpg
    RiusAegischrisnlDarklyreJragghen
  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    So, apparently, tomorrow's developer comment has some interesting info in it.
    Right now people all over the world are playing FF on everything from PS4 to smart phones, and this fall they’ll have a new game to play, FINAL FANTASY Dimensions II.
    It’s a game with my own brand of FF in it, and nothing would make me happier than if you gave it a try.

    I don't know what the comments were like in the Japanese version, but considering Dimensions 2 came out in Japan well before the festival, it wouldn't make sense for this to be a straight translation of what came before.

    So, first of all, yay, a new FF game that is hopefully as fun as Dimensions 1. Second, the chance of us getting characters like Morrow is now more than 0.

  • DarklyreDarklyre Registered User regular
    edited September 2017
    38thDoe wrote: »
    Narbus wrote: »
    100 gems: bupkiss.
    50 mythril: 3/11 BSBs for Ceodore, Rydia, and Mog! I finally have a decent mage BSB!

    Also f da haters, Ceodore's BSB is solid. Extra healing is gonna he great when the dark magicite dungeon hits.

    I will hold off judging until I try having him solo heal a team in crystal tower. If he fails i will go back to hating though.

    If you're going to use % healers like Ceodore you pretty much need at least two or three, or else multiple blinks/Last Stand to keep up. I've tried teams like that before, and you quickly start to realize that you're basically using Cura medicas without Curaja as a backup. They work unbelievably well as backup heals, but fare poorly on their own.

    Although...now I kinda want to try a team with:

    Ramza (Shout/Tailwind)
    Onion Knight (BSB/Blowback)
    Yuffie (USB/BSB)
    Sabin (Soul Spiral)
    Ceodore (BSB)

    Five 40% medicas, Shout + VoF for buffs, Soul Spiral + Ceodore BSB can Esuna...this may actually work.

    Darklyre on
  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    edited September 2017
    Darklyre wrote: »
    38thDoe wrote: »
    Narbus wrote: »
    100 gems: bupkiss.
    50 mythril: 3/11 BSBs for Ceodore, Rydia, and Mog! I finally have a decent mage BSB!

    Also f da haters, Ceodore's BSB is solid. Extra healing is gonna he great when the dark magicite dungeon hits.

    I will hold off judging until I try having him solo heal a team in crystal tower. If he fails i will go back to hating though.

    If you're going to use % healers like Ceodore you pretty much need at least two or three, or else multiple blinks/Last Stand to keep up. I've tried teams like that before using Ramza (Tailwind)/OK (Blowback)/Yuffie (Clearest Tranquil), and you quickly start to realize that you're basically using Cura medicas without Curaja as a backup. They work unbelievably well as backup heals, but fare poorly on their own.

    to be fair to Ceodore, he also has a continually-usable single-target heal in the Cure Sword burst command. And he's got White Magic 5, you could fall back on Curaja if you really wanted to. Or Curada.


    Speaking of bursts, I have absolutely no idea what to draw in the burst selection.

    Just the things that immediately come to mind include: Asylum, The Echo, Aerial Blast, Enochian Firaja, Holy Cross, Meteor XVI, Whisperweed Melody, Mostly Megaflare, Seething Waters... There's too much. Too much I want.

    Enlong on
  • chrisnlchrisnl Registered User regular
    It's kind of interesting having a group of real life friends that play this silly game. We can't help but compare draws, and unfortunately one guy almost always seems to have the weakest luck. His luck isn't even necessarily bad, just he never seems to get the relics he wants the most. This festival his highlights have been OK BSB, Terra USB (though it was on his second draw, and both were 1/11) and Selphie USB (which is great but unfortunately only rarely beats out Rosa USB and/or Y'shtola BSB which he already has). Still, I'm pretty sure Terra's USB (even without her OSB) will let him beat Sealion, which is one of the two he hasn't beaten yet. He'll have to wait for banner 3 to see if any of the relics (other than maybe OK BSB) help him with Fenrir, the other magicite he hasn't beaten yet.

    Also looking at it, the RNG in this game is super weird. Both of my accounts have gotten Larsa BSB, Delita USB and Bartz USB (the Delita ones were from different draws at least, BSB, CSB, USB for the alt, 6* draw for the main), plus I almost forgot about Pecil USB (6* draw on the alt, SNES banner on the main). Not to mention the other relics in the past I have gotten on both, including OK BSB (twice on both accounts), SG, Shout (had to chase both SG and Shout on the alt though, SGx4 from the 11/11 KC2 draw), Vaan BSB and Agrias OSB. Just weird coincidences I'm sure.

    steam_sig.png
  • Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    tbh you don't need any other earth relics but chicken knife for hydra. bartz' usb hard carries earth/water/fire magicite for me.

    aeNqQM9.jpg
  • SpectrumSpectrum Archer of Inferno Chaldea Rec RoomRegistered User regular
    edited September 2017
    Knight_ wrote: »
    tbh you don't need any other earth relics but chicken knife for hydra. bartz' usb hard carries earth/water/fire magicite for me.
    What's your setup and time? (How high did you hone Quake Strike?)

    Spectrum on
    XNnw6Gk.jpg
  • chrisnlchrisnl Registered User regular
    Knight_ wrote: »
    tbh you don't need any other earth relics but chicken knife for hydra. bartz' usb hard carries earth/water/fire magicite for me.

    Even without an associated aura? That is pretty impressive, I'll have to give him a try on some of those fights after the orbfest is done.

    steam_sig.png
  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    The Crystal tower or 30th anniversary gem draw is tomorrow evening, right? Any idea when the other is dropping?

  • chrisnlchrisnl Registered User regular
    The gem draw is starting tomorrow night, and lasts a good while. The mythril draw is scheduled for October 4th.

    steam_sig.png
  • DarklyreDarklyre Registered User regular
    Does anyone still keep armor for all realms?

    I'm raiding my vault for Rosetta Stone fodder. Now that I look more closely, I'm almost always putting +element gear on my party members instead of realm synergy gear. Plus, there's no realm synergy in magicite fights. About the only time I use synergy gear is for NE characters like Noctis, and even then I prioritize ATK or MAG over anything else

  • SpectrumSpectrum Archer of Inferno Chaldea Rec RoomRegistered User regular
    Darklyre wrote: »
    Does anyone still keep armor for all realms?

    I'm raiding my vault for Rosetta Stone fodder. Now that I look more closely, I'm almost always putting +element gear on my party members instead of realm synergy gear. Plus, there's no realm synergy in magicite fights. About the only time I use synergy gear is for NE characters like Noctis, and even then I prioritize ATK or MAG over anything else

    Yes, because I have dick all for element gear in certain types. And depending on the fight I sometimes favor highest ATK or highest DEF or highest RES and I have a few different pieces that do slightly different things.

    XNnw6Gk.jpg
    Gnome-InterruptusJragghen
  • mercurialchemistermercurialchemister Registered User regular
    Son's pull: 2/11. Bartz BSB, Bartz USB, neither dupes

    !

    Back to normal in our household

    Knight_JragghenSpectrumRiusGnome-InterruptusDarklyresilence1186chrisnlGnizmoAegisElderlycrawfishFryNarbus38thDoe
  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    I sent a support ticket about the jump start and the refresh/balance stuff for chips. First one's getting looked into, the second one made it look like they were looking for suggestions, so we may have some news about them.

    Spectrumsilence1186chrisnlElderlycrawfish
  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Every time I see a group of cactuar I despair because they're not gold knights.

  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Decided to go for a pull on the banner to see if I could nab Celes BSB, Golbez, maybe even Terra USB.

    2/11 with a disco. Bartz BSB and Bartz USB. This is fantastic...but they're dupes.

  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    Did anyone ticket about the 2nd 30 mythril dungeon? Might be related to the jump start issue.

  • chrisnlchrisnl Registered User regular
    Jragghen wrote: »
    I sent a support ticket about the jump start and the refresh/balance stuff for chips. First one's getting looked into, the second one made it look like they were looking for suggestions, so we may have some news about them.

    Interesting. My suggestion to them would be to gift all GL players 10-15 of those stamina potions they implemented in Japan fairly recently. An extra 1-1.5k stamina would go a long way towards making the drop rate not stressful. Either that or just extend the stages, or re-open all the stages for a few days at the end.

    steam_sig.png
  • SpectrumSpectrum Archer of Inferno Chaldea Rec RoomRegistered User regular
    edited September 2017
    In related news, Apex Omega is a GIANT ASSHOLE.

    Setup:
    uLkhIwgl.pngcTKJtmSl.png

    RW: UltraCloud
    Major Fire Resist on Rosa, Moderate on Y'shtola. Moderate KO Resist on everyone else.

    https://youtu.be/HCW0xKn2wC0

    Took Lion intending that the Pentabreak would close the MND gap and let Stop actually last long enough to chain. You can watch for yourself to see how well that worked this run. (Hint: It didn't.)

    Very RNG focused, if I was even unluckier this run would have failed, though if I was luckier than I wouldn't have taken damage in the last half if things worked as intended. (Though I guess not RNG focused in terms that I didn't care as much who he hit or relied totally on doublecasts)

    (Let's not talk about the half an hour of runs trying to do an Entrust into Fujin strat, incoming damage was just too bonkers.)

    Spectrum on
    XNnw6Gk.jpg
    chrisnl
  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Knight_ wrote: »
    tbh you don't need any other earth relics but chicken knife for hydra. bartz' usb hard carries earth/water/fire magicite for me.

    Chicken Knife has no element though. Great Sword does.

  • DarklyreDarklyre Registered User regular
    Spectrum wrote: »
    Darklyre wrote: »
    Does anyone still keep armor for all realms?

    I'm raiding my vault for Rosetta Stone fodder. Now that I look more closely, I'm almost always putting +element gear on my party members instead of realm synergy gear. Plus, there's no realm synergy in magicite fights. About the only time I use synergy gear is for NE characters like Noctis, and even then I prioritize ATK or MAG over anything else

    Yes, because I have dick all for element gear in certain types. And depending on the fight I sometimes favor highest ATK or highest DEF or highest RES and I have a few different pieces that do slightly different things.

    Must be a difference in playstyle/party-building. I've always been all offense when it comes to party building, so DEF/RES-heavy items get ignored. As long as my one or two DPS characters have maxed-out ATK/MAG/+element then the rest can wear pretty much whatever I've got left over.

  • TakelTakel Registered User regular
    Did a pull on Banner 2 because I need more synergy for those realms.
    1/11. And it's a 6*

    Chicken Knife

    I'll take it.

    Steam | PSN: MystLansfeld | 3DS: 4656-6210-1377 | FFXIV: Lavinia Lansfeld
    SpectrumDarklyreElderlycrawfishFrysilence1186AegischrisnlRiusArdor
  • SpectrumSpectrum Archer of Inferno Chaldea Rec RoomRegistered User regular
    Darklyre wrote: »
    Spectrum wrote: »
    Darklyre wrote: »
    Does anyone still keep armor for all realms?

    I'm raiding my vault for Rosetta Stone fodder. Now that I look more closely, I'm almost always putting +element gear on my party members instead of realm synergy gear. Plus, there's no realm synergy in magicite fights. About the only time I use synergy gear is for NE characters like Noctis, and even then I prioritize ATK or MAG over anything else

    Yes, because I have dick all for element gear in certain types. And depending on the fight I sometimes favor highest ATK or highest DEF or highest RES and I have a few different pieces that do slightly different things.

    Must be a difference in playstyle/party-building. I've always been all offense when it comes to party building, so DEF/RES-heavy items get ignored. As long as my one or two DPS characters have maxed-out ATK/MAG/+element then the rest can wear pretty much whatever I've got left over.

    I can really feel the difference in durability when people are Bargaining and would prefer to not see them get gibbed by a random crit before I can do anything.

    XNnw6Gk.jpg
  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    Lot of Chicken Knives in this thread. Good for y'all.

    FryDarklyreJragghenKnight_Ardor
  • FryFry Registered User regular
    edited September 2017
    Madican wrote: »
    Knight_ wrote: »
    tbh you don't need any other earth relics but chicken knife for hydra. bartz' usb hard carries earth/water/fire magicite for me.

    Chicken Knife has no element though. Great Sword does.

    Neither relic has an innate element boost. Latent Power does 6.64x damage on the first cast, and 11.952x damage on subsequent casts if you don't let the aura fall off. Chosen Traveller does 7x damage on cast, and on average adds another 2x for each subsequent spellblade ability (in addition to 2x cast speed for spellblades). We'll call the +30% ATK from Chosen Traveller and the ATK bargain command on the burst a wash. I think in isolation the Ultra deals a bit more earth damage than the earth aura burst (!), though that'll depend some on how much meter you have to spend (more meter to burn favors the burst).

    And of course combining the two should be super gross.
    Madican wrote: »
    Decided to go for a pull on the banner to see if I could nab Celes BSB, Golbez, maybe even Terra USB.

    2/11 with a disco. Bartz BSB and Bartz USB. This is fantastic...but they're dupes.

    Were it possible I would gladly trade you my 1/11 Golbez BSB for your Bartz BSB3 and Bartz USB. I'd even throw in some miscellaneous items from other recent pulls. :X

    Fry on
  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    I still keep strong def/res armors. I'll put an elemental boost on my main DPS, but everyone else generally just gets to be protected up. Boosts make exceeding the Atk soft cap no problem, so a tiny bit of extra Atk does very little. I also only just this fest got my first 6* armor, so I am going to need to go through and mulch a bunch of ancient low end 5* stuff that falls short, even with RS.

    ztrEPtD.gif
  • ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    Ugh, that just makes me want to pull for Chicken Knife to pair with the BSB3 that I have...... Must fight urge. Super gross is super tempting!

    PSN/Steam - Elderlycrawfish
    Fry
  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Oh. My Gamestop Funbux explicitly can't be used towards gift cards.

    Not pulling on that BSB selection gem-only banner after all. C'est la vie.

  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    I haven't investigated it yet, but for Omega (Apex), does it cost the 1 stamina if you don't complete the attempt?

  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    I haven't investigated it yet, but for Omega (Apex), does it cost the 1 stamina if you don't complete the attempt?

    Is your orbfest schedule that precise?

  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    I haven't investigated it yet, but for Omega (Apex), does it cost the 1 stamina if you don't complete the attempt?

    Is your orbfest schedule that precise?

    Short answer: yes.

    Long answer: If it was free to try I'd like to get a benchmark for where I am re: 30s, because it'll greatly affect my relic draw plans + if I spend money on pulls.

  • SpectrumSpectrum Archer of Inferno Chaldea Rec RoomRegistered User regular
    I haven't investigated it yet, but for Omega (Apex), does it cost the 1 stamina if you don't complete the attempt?

    Nope, refunded if you failboat.

    XNnw6Gk.jpg
    silence1186
  • chrisnlchrisnl Registered User regular
    Fry wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Knight_ wrote: »
    tbh you don't need any other earth relics but chicken knife for hydra. bartz' usb hard carries earth/water/fire magicite for me.

    Chicken Knife has no element though. Great Sword does.

    Neither relic has an innate element boost. Latent Power does 6.64x damage on the first cast, and 11.952x damage on subsequent casts if you don't let the aura fall off. Chosen Traveller does 7x damage on cast, and on average adds another 2x for each subsequent spellblade ability (in addition to 2x cast speed for spellblades). We'll call the +30% ATK from Chosen Traveller and the ATK bargain command on the burst a wash. I think in isolation the Ultra deals a bit more earth damage than the earth aura burst (!), though that'll depend some on how much meter you have to spend (more meter to burn favors the burst).

    And of course combining the two should be super gross.
    Madican wrote: »
    Decided to go for a pull on the banner to see if I could nab Celes BSB, Golbez, maybe even Terra USB.

    2/11 with a disco. Bartz BSB and Bartz USB. This is fantastic...but they're dupes.

    Were it possible I would gladly trade you my 1/11 Golbez BSB for your Bartz BSB3 and Bartz USB. I'd even throw in some miscellaneous items from other recent pulls. :X

    Don't forget that Latent Power has the 20% stat boost from burst mode (likely over the soft cap) as well as a +Spellblade damage boost on C1. That burst is really very good.

    As for the Omega fights, I'm pretty sure they only cost stamina if you win. You can easily check for yourself by getting to the screen where it asks you to confirm spending stamina, and it will either say nothing or tell you that the stamina is only used upon success.

    steam_sig.png
  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    chrisnl wrote: »
    Fry wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Knight_ wrote: »
    tbh you don't need any other earth relics but chicken knife for hydra. bartz' usb hard carries earth/water/fire magicite for me.

    Chicken Knife has no element though. Great Sword does.

    Neither relic has an innate element boost. Latent Power does 6.64x damage on the first cast, and 11.952x damage on subsequent casts if you don't let the aura fall off. Chosen Traveller does 7x damage on cast, and on average adds another 2x for each subsequent spellblade ability (in addition to 2x cast speed for spellblades). We'll call the +30% ATK from Chosen Traveller and the ATK bargain command on the burst a wash. I think in isolation the Ultra deals a bit more earth damage than the earth aura burst (!), though that'll depend some on how much meter you have to spend (more meter to burn favors the burst).

    And of course combining the two should be super gross.
    Madican wrote: »
    Decided to go for a pull on the banner to see if I could nab Celes BSB, Golbez, maybe even Terra USB.

    2/11 with a disco. Bartz BSB and Bartz USB. This is fantastic...but they're dupes.

    Were it possible I would gladly trade you my 1/11 Golbez BSB for your Bartz BSB3 and Bartz USB. I'd even throw in some miscellaneous items from other recent pulls. :X

    Don't forget that Latent Power has the 20% stat boost from burst mode (likely over the soft cap) as well as a +Spellblade damage boost on C1. That burst is really very good.

    As for the Omega fights, I'm pretty sure they only cost stamina if you win. You can easily check for yourself by getting to the screen where it asks you to confirm spending stamina, and it will either say nothing or tell you that the stamina is only used upon success.

    Oh for sure, I'm just at work sans cell phone so thought the friendly folks in the thread might help me out.

  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    Oh. My Gamestop Funbux explicitly can't be used towards gift cards.

    Not pulling on that BSB selection gem-only banner after all. C'est la vie.

    Er, what? That's how I got all my Google Play credit. There's only three things you can't buy with GS credit, as mandated by their own policy, and that's: Amazon gift cards, gas cards, and Visa cards. However, I got around the Amazon one by using my GS credit to buy a Gamestop gift card, drove to a different Gamestop, and used it to buy the Amazon gift card.

    Fry
  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Sorry. I was rude. Sometimes it seems like snarky comments are the only things I ever have to say, never mind actual conversation. I need to learn not to say things just because they come to mind.

  • DarklyreDarklyre Registered User regular
    Is it worth putting Rosettas into Gogo's BSB rod? It's a native +water rod, but there're so few water mages that I'm not sure who else could use it besides Strago.

  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited September 2017
    Speaking of Google Play credit I had a lapse of judgement and decided to see if I could at least least yank Setzer's LMR from the banner.

    2/11: Setzer SSB, Shadow SSB
    Nope, not good enough. I have more GS credit, I'll stop by tomorrow and get another Google Play card, let's keep going.
    1/11: Setzer BSB, Setzer USB (dupe)
    ONE MORE! This was seriously stupid but I was already committed.
    3/11: Setzer LMR, Shadow LMR (dupe), Shadow USB(!)

    Poor decisions validated! Probably not a good thing. Now I have to swing by Gamestop tomorrow for another Google Play card if I want to pull on Banner 3 come Thursday. But, y'know, now that I know I don't actually need Cloud Cycle I'm wondering if I really ought to. Zidane would be nice but I don't think he's absolutely essential between a team with Cloud, Shadow, and Bartz pumping steroids.

    Madican on
    Darklyresilence1186RiusAegisFry
This discussion has been closed.