Oh man, getting to re-experience the old days when status ailments were usable is somethin' else. I can't remember the last time I actually used Bio Chainsaw or Desperado for the status application.
I'm just letting Lightning kill everything with CT0 God Among Men...
Well, I had to at least attempt to respect the Gigas fight, since the medal conditions (for a handful of Major orbs. Shrug) were applying Blind and Slow, and exploiting Ice weakness.
On that note, Gigas Armlet GET. With that and the Berserker Ring from the Umaro event, I now have 5 accessories with Moderate or greater resistance to Lightning damage. I no longer need to pick and choose who gets more than Minor resistance when fighting Hydra. So that's nice.
Okay, just legend dived Vivi, Raines, Fujin, and Beatrix. Gonna dualcast ALL OVER THE FUCKIN PLACE.
Gonna sleep on the last two. Looking ahead at some of the folks who get theirs (TGCid - haste and 3 0cast, Paine - dualcast spellblade, but her burst elements are less common than Delita's, Jecht - dualcast dark, Sephiroth - trance mentioned above), I'm definitely ignoring Delita, might still take Master (which is kinda amusing given how I was lukewarm-ish towards his burst when I got it yesterday).
Delita's Legend Dive is a little silly in that it completely ignores the Holy aspect of his soul break design by making its damage and twincast effects only work on Spellblades. Which is neat if you want him to do Holy damage and are using his BSB, but not so much if you're trying to do so with his USB and Saint Cross.
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Okay, just legend dived Vivi, Raines, Fujin, and Beatrix. Gonna dualcast ALL OVER THE FUCKIN PLACE.
Gonna sleep on the last two. Looking ahead at some of the folks who get theirs (TGCid - haste and 3 0cast, Paine - dualcast spellblade, but her burst elements are less common than Delita's, Jecht - dualcast dark, Sephiroth - trance mentioned above), I'm definitely ignoring Delita, might still take Master (which is kinda amusing given how I was lukewarm-ish towards his burst when I got it yesterday).
Delita is bad and not even his LD makes him any good.
Master is currently the best NE monk in the game until Prishe's dive finally happens.
What makes Delita bad? His lack of elemental focus/element aura on his soul breaks in favor of going for multi-elemental? The multipliers on stuff like his BSB commands seem comparable to other such bursts.
Granted, I haven't much used him lately, since getting stronger stuff in his four elements that actually do focus on the element enough to have an aura (the last ting I might use him for is a Crit-based holy chain team of some sort, and even then I might just as well use Raines), so that may answer my question; he's bad because he's outperformed in all four elements and thus not needed, not by any absolute metric.
III
The Earth Stirs
Aspiring Knight
Destroyer of Light and Dark
IV
A Summoner Grown
Reclaiming the Skies
The Blue Planet
Last of the Red Wings
V
The Princess and the Pirate
A Worthy Foe (KICK O CLOCK MOTHER FUCKER)
Heir of the Dawn
Scouring the Depths
VI
Two Sides of a Coin
Prima Donna
A Light Among Shadows
A Love for All Time
Iron Will, Iron Fists
VII
The Second Coming ~ One Winged Angel
A Night to Remember
Glimmer of Hope
In The Footsteps of Greatness
Vow Upon a Star
Awakening Cloud
The Dirge Begins
VIII
Rains of Ruin
A Special Place
The Lion Wakes
Cutting Winds, Soaring Lightning
Master of Fate
As The Sky Falls
IX
Show of Resolve
Friendship Ribbon
Where the Heart Lies
Rose of May
The Spark Before the Fire
X
Window on the Past
Go Go Gullwings!
This Is Our Story
A Dream for Spira
Dreaming's End
Dra Al Bhed
XI
Women of the World
XII
Blade of Vengeance
Heir of the Dynast-King
Blood Reign (MANDRAGORAS)
Dancing Heart
Pawn Among Kings
XIII
Defying Destiny
Time's Arrow
Flash of Defiance
Of Lies and Love
Led by Fate
XIV
Lady of the Vortex
On Azure Wings
XV
Shield of the King
Tactics
To Have and Have Not
A Sword for Peace
Family Secrets
Type-0
Into the Fray
So every III banner (which includes the Onion Mote dropping stuff)
But we'd be skipping the first five IV banners.
So IV will be the real telling one as to whether that list is accurate.
Welp, my stamina just abruptly vanished for what looks like the next month or so.
What makes Delita bad? His lack of elemental focus/element aura on his soul breaks in favor of going for multi-elemental? The multipliers on stuff like his BSB commands seem comparable to other such bursts.
Granted, I haven't much used him lately, since getting stronger stuff in his four elements that actually do focus on the element enough to have an aura (the last ting I might use him for is a Crit-based holy chain team of some sort, and even then I might just as well use Raines), so that may answer my question; he's bad because he's outperformed in all four elements and thus not needed, not by any absolute metric.
III
The Earth Stirs
Aspiring Knight
Destroyer of Light and Dark
IV
A Summoner Grown
Reclaiming the Skies
The Blue Planet
Last of the Red Wings
V
The Princess and the Pirate
A Worthy Foe (KICK O CLOCK MOTHER FUCKER)
Heir of the Dawn
Scouring the Depths
VI
Two Sides of a Coin
Prima Donna
A Light Among Shadows
A Love for All Time
Iron Will, Iron Fists
VII
The Second Coming ~ One Winged Angel
A Night to Remember
Glimmer of Hope
In The Footsteps of Greatness
Vow Upon a Star
Awakening Cloud
The Dirge Begins
VIII
Rains of Ruin
A Special Place
The Lion Wakes
Cutting Winds, Soaring Lightning
Master of Fate
As The Sky Falls
IX
Show of Resolve
Friendship Ribbon
Where the Heart Lies
Rose of May
The Spark Before the Fire
X
Window on the Past
Go Go Gullwings!
This Is Our Story
A Dream for Spira
Dreaming's End
Dra Al Bhed
XI
Women of the World
XII
Blade of Vengeance
Heir of the Dynast-King
Blood Reign (MANDRAGORAS)
Dancing Heart
Pawn Among Kings
XIII
Defying Destiny
Time's Arrow
Flash of Defiance
Of Lies and Love
Led by Fate
XIV
Lady of the Vortex
On Azure Wings
XV
Shield of the King
Tactics
To Have and Have Not
A Sword for Peace
Family Secrets
Type-0
Into the Fray
So every III banner (which includes the Onion Mote dropping stuff)
But we'd be skipping the first five IV banners.
So IV will be the real telling one as to whether that list is accurate.
Welp, my stamina just abruptly vanished for what looks like the next month or so.
For reals, this is no joke. My main account is getting a bit of a boost (maybe half will be new), but my alt account is just insane with how much content there will be to finish. Doesn't help that the alt hasn't finished the realm stuff yet, so is only at 120ish stamina.
Delita was a member of my a-team for a while because I pulled hard on a banner that heavily featured him and I was so happy when I was able to permanently bench his ass.
Delita's Legend Dive is a little silly in that it completely ignores the Holy aspect of his soul break design by making its damage and twincast effects only work on Spellblades. Which is neat if you want him to do Holy damage and are using his BSB, but not so much if you're trying to do so with his USB and Saint Cross.
and i went ahead with the fujin bsb as my pick, it just seems too good in combination with faris imperil + that sexy alphinaud usb. y'shtola was a pretty braindead choice too, so i've added two separate healer bsb's today! wheee
Delita's Legend Dive is a little silly in that it completely ignores the Holy aspect of his soul break design by making its damage and twincast effects only work on Spellblades. Which is neat if you want him to do Holy damage and are using his BSB, but not so much if you're trying to do so with his USB and Saint Cross.
Huzzah, that's A+ Squall kicked to the curb! Rosa USB wasn't enough to handle his damage output so I benched Bartz and brought in Onion Knight to serve as backup healer, then grabbed RW Y'shtola BSB for OK and Rosa to share. Between group Medica heals and occasional Benedictions I was able to have Ramza survive long enough to feed Cloud enough meter to do his thing and smash face.
Other than things like MP Apex, is there a source of 4* motes that's... Um... Okay a little less likely to end in humiliating defeat. I have more 5* I think, which seems wrong. You get a trickle from events last I saw.
What makes Delita bad? His lack of elemental focus/element aura on his soul breaks in favor of going for multi-elemental? The multipliers on stuff like his BSB commands seem comparable to other such bursts.
Granted, I haven't much used him lately, since getting stronger stuff in his four elements that actually do focus on the element enough to have an aura (the last ting I might use him for is a Crit-based holy chain team of some sort, and even then I might just as well use Raines), so that may answer my question; he's bad because he's outperformed in all four elements and thus not needed, not by any absolute metric.
No aura, mediocre in all elements. His BSB gimmick requires an external critfix to do anything and his USB isn't actually an EX Mode
Other than things like MP Apex, is there a source of 4* motes that's... Um... Okay a little less likely to end in humiliating defeat. I have more 5* I think, which seems wrong. You get a trickle from events last I saw.
Weekly MP for the 4* motes and just be very judicious in how you spend them.
I'm starting to draw down on Wisdom/Spirit motes and it's making me very nervous.
Okay, I can handle less-hard MP. Apex has just been silly; everyone throws fancy SBs and skills with flashy animations... For 12 damage. Then he picks someone to kill. :P Ramza just shouldn't be the hardest hitter on the team...
4* motes are pretty much all from multiplayer at this point. (It's usually a lot less hard than the current crop.)
Do the old mote dungeons still recur? I feel like it's been a while.
Mote dungeons will be replaced in a month or two with quasi-daily ones. The type changes every couple days, but you can run them as much as you want. 60 stamina a pop. 6 4* motes by default, 10 4* motes if you can clear them in under 30 sec. Also, 50 for the first time clear. They're quasi full throttle (start with one bar, no SB gained), difficulty 180, and each have a specific elemental weakness (at full weakness, so double damage) with very heavy resist to everything but it. Only RW allowed is Dr. Mog's wall. https://www.reddit.com/r/FFRecordKeeper/comments/6pikr5/new_mote_dungeons_boss_guide/
So this past evening was when my usual group decided to do the Dissidia multiplayer stuff. Those fights are ridiculous. Thankfully as a group we have excessively ridiculous damage options, but it took several tries and a little bit of tweaking to make things run even remotely smoothly. Kind of silly how Omega was way easier.
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Looks like bring a Magicite team but since they're 200% weak just put Ace Striker on your DPS to accelerate the process or something like that.
Okay, I can handle less-hard MP. Apex has just been silly; everyone throws fancy SBs and skills with flashy animations... For 12 damage. Then he picks someone to kill. :P Ramza just shouldn't be the hardest hitter on the team...
If you're still online, check the OP - there's a discord room, we can see if we can get some folks together to help you out.
Looks like bring a Magicite team but since they're 200% weak just put Ace Striker on your DPS to accelerate the process or something like that.
No SB generation in those fights, you get 1 SB bar for everybody and that is it. So it's like a 1/3 Throttle fight? They're only difficulty 180 though so they should be beatable with that restriction.
Looks like bring a Magicite team but since they're 200% weak just put Ace Striker on your DPS to accelerate the process or something like that.
No SB generation in those fights, you get 1 SB bar for everybody and that is it. So it's like a 1/3 Throttle fight? They're only difficulty 180 though so they should be beatable with that restriction.
Oh derp. In that case, one bar at the start? Still pretty reasonable. 160k each from two DPS BSB commands, 20k entries probably 100k left from buffer+third DPS, which is average of 10k/turn which is nothing. If you brought a dancer or something then you may need to use a couple 5* abilities after BSBs run out which will slow you down but probably still well within 30s.
Got the CMs for Omega MP. It's nice when you don't have to master it three separate times, because the last two fights were just grinding the boss down to weak phase, stop-chaining and DPSing it until it started the countdown, then having someone use Last Stand and ignoring the medal condition for finishing the fight entirely.
me and my friends killed the dissida mp. i used my golbez bsb to initiate operation swolebez from the backrow. he was getting hit for 300 on attacks while everyone else was getting hit for 5x that, pretty funny.
could basically bsb every turn i had so much meter.
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Musing about Holy/Dark team changes...
This looks like it'll crush Mist Dragon, probably 40s or so?
Vanille BSB+LD
Mog BSB
Raines BSB+(LD?)
Kuja BSB
Nabaat BSB
Can't decide whether Raines should have MM or another damage RM in this case. Kuja can't Wrath so maybe he should carry it?
Holy still looks sketchy, though.
Vanille BSB+LD
Ramza Shout+LD
Beatrix SSB/BSB+(LD?)
Celes BSB
Raines BSB+(LD?)
Beatrix carries Divine Cross. Heal someone turn 1, let her taunt and then die. Vanille carries Arise, cast Wall, and hope that lead is enough? That lets Raines carry a DPS RM and Wrath 3 turns. Celes chips away with abilities, does BSB below 80%? Beatrix opens BSB ASAP? Need to math this still but I think this is more promising, bench Pecil at least.
I've finally come to a conclusion on my decision with what to do with the unexpected second select on the 30th banner.
It was a hard decision, given I could make a completely no-holds barred power play and there's plenty of options available.
Raines for a very solid holy/dark mix
Fujin's Metsu for a DPS support option for any mage team I could field on top of being a solid BSB in the first place
Refia's BSB for a solid and necessary enFire option in my team given that I don't have any physical fire aura fighters
And of course I could go waifu chasing.
In the end, I believe I've made the worst best choice possible.
I present:
A complete Selphie
Congratulations accidental waifu!
me and my friends killed the dissida mp. i used my golbez bsb to initiate operation swolebez from the backrow. he was getting hit for 300 on attacks while everyone else was getting hit for 5x that, pretty funny.
could basically bsb every turn i had so much meter.
I couldn't beat the last two fights of the Minwu event the first time it rolled around. Gigas Armlet and bonus Thief's Revenge!
Anyone every find themselves needing two of that ability, or should I shatter it?
I can't see it being too useful unless you run Vaan/Lion/Zidane a lot and you have at least two of their USBs. If you do, however, you can crap out a LOT of damage very, very quickly.
The way I figure it, I'll have an R2 Dervish eventually and most thieves have Celerity 5 anyway.
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Ugh, Bismarck with an empty HP bar but not dead at 29.99s! And he was Lunge happy and murdered two people. So close, but basically at the mercy of RNG, which means it's not nearly "farmable."
It's at the stage of theoretically possible, but execution is something else.
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Well, I had to at least attempt to respect the Gigas fight, since the medal conditions (for a handful of Major orbs. Shrug) were applying Blind and Slow, and exploiting Ice weakness.
On that note, Gigas Armlet GET. With that and the Berserker Ring from the Umaro event, I now have 5 accessories with Moderate or greater resistance to Lightning damage. I no longer need to pick and choose who gets more than Minor resistance when fighting Hydra. So that's nice.
Gonna sleep on the last two. Looking ahead at some of the folks who get theirs (TGCid - haste and 3 0cast, Paine - dualcast spellblade, but her burst elements are less common than Delita's, Jecht - dualcast dark, Sephiroth - trance mentioned above), I'm definitely ignoring Delita, might still take Master (which is kinda amusing given how I was lukewarm-ish towards his burst when I got it yesterday).
Delita is bad and not even his LD makes him any good.
Master is currently the best NE monk in the game until Prishe's dive finally happens.
Wait, I actually started in January of 2017. Jesus, it feels like I've been playing for so much longer.
The earliest ones on the datamined list are already out. Everything else seemingly possible is from like June 2016 or later.
Granted, I haven't much used him lately, since getting stronger stuff in his four elements that actually do focus on the element enough to have an aura (the last ting I might use him for is a Crit-based holy chain team of some sort, and even then I might just as well use Raines), so that may answer my question; he's bad because he's outperformed in all four elements and thus not needed, not by any absolute metric.
Welp, my stamina just abruptly vanished for what looks like the next month or so.
His stats are just kinda mediocre, really.
For reals, this is no joke. My main account is getting a bit of a boost (maybe half will be new), but my alt account is just insane with how much content there will be to finish. Doesn't help that the alt hasn't finished the realm stuff yet, so is only at 120ish stamina.
I'm ok with this, because fuck Delita.
mustadio bsb
steiner bsb
larsa bsb
and i went ahead with the fujin bsb as my pick, it just seems too good in combination with faris imperil + that sexy alphinaud usb. y'shtola was a pretty braindead choice too, so i've added two separate healer bsb's today! wheee
I hope that, one day, Ovelia gets a dagger relic.
Edit: Oh hey, the non-apex ones do too...
Do the old mote dungeons still recur? I feel like it's been a while.
Weekly MP for the 4* motes and just be very judicious in how you spend them.
I'm starting to draw down on Wisdom/Spirit motes and it's making me very nervous.
Eventually. Actually there was just an announcement about them coming back in December.
Mote dungeons will be replaced in a month or two with quasi-daily ones. The type changes every couple days, but you can run them as much as you want. 60 stamina a pop. 6 4* motes by default, 10 4* motes if you can clear them in under 30 sec. Also, 50 for the first time clear. They're quasi full throttle (start with one bar, no SB gained), difficulty 180, and each have a specific elemental weakness (at full weakness, so double damage) with very heavy resist to everything but it. Only RW allowed is Dr. Mog's wall.
https://www.reddit.com/r/FFRecordKeeper/comments/6pikr5/new_mote_dungeons_boss_guide/
Here's the vit one.
If you're still online, check the OP - there's a discord room, we can see if we can get some folks together to help you out.
I went through multuple solid mp teams before caving and just using my solo holy team.
Offensive setups got overwhelmed if they couldnt kill one of the three fast enough while defensive ones got ground down.
No SB generation in those fights, you get 1 SB bar for everybody and that is it. So it's like a 1/3 Throttle fight? They're only difficulty 180 though so they should be beatable with that restriction.
Oh derp. In that case, one bar at the start? Still pretty reasonable. 160k each from two DPS BSB commands, 20k entries probably 100k left from buffer+third DPS, which is average of 10k/turn which is nothing. If you brought a dancer or something then you may need to use a couple 5* abilities after BSBs run out which will slow you down but probably still well within 30s.
What a glorious day of record keeper
could basically bsb every turn i had so much meter.
This looks like it'll crush Mist Dragon, probably 40s or so?
Vanille BSB+LD
Mog BSB
Raines BSB+(LD?)
Kuja BSB
Nabaat BSB
Can't decide whether Raines should have MM or another damage RM in this case. Kuja can't Wrath so maybe he should carry it?
Holy still looks sketchy, though.
Vanille BSB+LD
Ramza Shout+LD
Beatrix SSB/BSB+(LD?)
Celes BSB
Raines BSB+(LD?)
Beatrix carries Divine Cross. Heal someone turn 1, let her taunt and then die. Vanille carries Arise, cast Wall, and hope that lead is enough? That lets Raines carry a DPS RM and Wrath 3 turns. Celes chips away with abilities, does BSB below 80%? Beatrix opens BSB ASAP? Need to math this still but I think this is more promising, bench Pecil at least.
holy bench sitters
Agrias BSB
Pecil USB
It was a hard decision, given I could make a completely no-holds barred power play and there's plenty of options available.
Raines for a very solid holy/dark mix
Fujin's Metsu for a DPS support option for any mage team I could field on top of being a solid BSB in the first place
Refia's BSB for a solid and necessary enFire option in my team given that I don't have any physical fire aura fighters
And of course I could go waifu chasing.
In the end, I believe I've made the worst best choice possible.
I present:
A complete Selphie
Congratulations accidental waifu!
You only live once. May as well have fun with it.
"Swolebez" will never not be funny
Anyone every find themselves needing two of that ability, or should I shatter it?
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Beatrix enholy ssb
Dupe Larsa ssb
Picked Y'shtola and Sarah bursts. I had stoneskin II so figured that plus not needing to pull FFI for a medica sounded great.
I can't see it being too useful unless you run Vaan/Lion/Zidane a lot and you have at least two of their USBs. If you do, however, you can crap out a LOT of damage very, very quickly.
It's at the stage of theoretically possible, but execution is something else.