Club PA 2.0 has arrived! If you'd like to access some extra PA content and help support the forums, check it out at patreon.com/ClubPA
The image size limit has been raised to 1mb! Anything larger than that should be linked to. This is a HARD limit, please do not abuse it.
Our new Indie Games subforum is now open for business in G&T. Go and check it out, you might land a code for a free game. If you're developing an indie game and want to post about it, follow these directions. If you don't, he'll break your legs! Hahaha! Seriously though.
Our rules have been updated and given their own forum. Go and look at them! They are nice, and there may be new ones that you didn't know about! Hooray for rules! Hooray for The System! Hooray for Conforming!

Batman vs Orcs 2: Shadow of Wardor

PeccaviPeccavi Registered User regular
Remember this game?
YqZsMpY.jpg

Well, it's getting a sequel tomorrow:

jAKT5Cy.jpg

Follow the continuing bromance of Talion x Celebrimbor as they commit genocide against the inhabitants of Mordor.

«1345

Posts

  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    There's no way I'm going to get around to playing this this year.

    probably just wait until it's on a "90% off with all DLC" sale in late 2018.

    Zombie HeroDoctor DetroitRaijin Quickfoot
  • BlankzillaBlankzilla KOOKABUNGA LIVES Registered User regular
    I enjoyed the first game but 2017 is a different time for me to be playing a game where the goal is to terrorize and enslave a different race of beings so they will fight each other to death and I'm good on that for now

    Maybe next year

    All Along The Watchtower: A DCAU Podcast.

    HEY! I sell the digital codes from my comics every week! 1.75 a pop! PM me if you wanna know what's available!
    DouglasDangerMagic Pink
  • PeccaviPeccavi Registered User regular
    edited October 2017
    Finally, a game that's brave enough to ask the question, "What if Shelob were a sexy lady?"


    Peccavi on
    UnbreakableVow
  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    i was going to skip this because of all the reasons above + lootboxes but a friend gifted me the gold edition on steam for my birthday so it looks like i am playing this tomorrow

    but i've been playing the first game again and fuck if i don;t got an asshole orc that comes back from EVERYTHING, runs at the earliest opportunity and is so powerful now his only weakness is "Afraid of burning". He's immune to everything else. I don;t know how I can get rid of him.

  • PeccaviPeccavi Registered User regular
    Supposedly you can import your nemesis from the first game to this game, but my Nemesis always ends up with a bag covering his head so id rather not.

    You also get to import your best follower though, and I wouldn't mind importing Naz, Ghul Hunter.

    Fencingsax
  • PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    Less than a minute into the quick look, Brad says it's good.

    Switch: SW-6132-4331-5349 || Steam
    Chincymcchilla
  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    edited October 2017
    Peccavi wrote: »
    Supposedly you can import your nemesis from the first game to this game, but my Nemesis always ends up with a bag covering his head so id rather not.

    You also get to import your best follower though, and I wouldn't mind importing Naz, Ghul Hunter.

    I still hope to find Dush and make him my best follower

    edit: as for the video; it pretty much tell me what I knew. gameplay will still be a blast, marketing and set-up and story is dumb as all hell.

    Magic Pink on
  • RT800RT800 Registered User regular
    edited October 2017
    The first game was alright. I never understood why the nemesis system was so lauded, but the game was fun enough. I was disappointed that the orcs never seemed to really develop much fear of the unstoppable, unkillable engine of death that was Talion. Guy slaughters orcs by the hundreds and keeps coming back even when killed. That's fucking terrifying. You'd think the orcs would just shit themselves and run after a while.

    Anyway, I get the impression that this sequel is about the same. Competent and fun but not a must-buy. Certainly not until there's a GOTY edition, anyway.

    RT800 on
  • PerrsunPerrsun Registered User regular
    RT800 wrote: »
    The first game was alright. I never understood why the nemesis system was so lauded, but the game was fun enough. I was disappointed that the orcs never seemed to really develop much fear of the unstoppable, unkillable engine of death that was Talion. Guy slaughters orcs by the hundreds and keeps coming back even when killed. That's fucking terrifying. You'd think the orcs would just shit themselves and run after a while.

    Anyway, I get the impression that this sequel is about the same. Competent and fun but not a must-buy. Certainly not until there's a GOTY edition, anyway.

    I really liked the nemesis system because I had been playing Assassins Creed games for years, and it just felt like any time I stabbed a guy, it didn't matter.

    Then SoM comes along, I find a bad guy early in the game that is weak to ranged attacks... so I get in position and I shoot an arrow at him. One headshot and he's down.

    And then a few hours later I'm fighting a different boss and in the middle of the fight he comes back and he's got a bandage on his head and he's yelling at me that I didn't finish the job and OH MAN this matters now?! I thought "defeated" and "dead" were the same thing and they're NOT! And now I'm fighting 2 boss groups and it's so cool!

    After figuring out some of the mechanics (like "decapitating makes them perma-dead") it lost some of the shine, but the first time it happened it was a great gaming experience.

    Magic Pink
  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    RT800 wrote: »
    The first game was alright. I never understood why the nemesis system was so lauded, but the game was fun enough. I was disappointed that the orcs never seemed to really develop much fear of the unstoppable, unkillable engine of death that was Talion. Guy slaughters orcs by the hundreds and keeps coming back even when killed. That's fucking terrifying. You'd think the orcs would just shit themselves and run after a while.

    My impression was the orcs were too dumb and violent to care otherwise, plus their information network was notes tied to spiders at best. And, eventually, they DO shit themselves and run, you even get an ability that causes more shit running!

    But really take ANY open world game with combat and you have a hero/heroine that kills things by the hundreds with inappropriate reactions from the populace, this is really no different.

    Rhesus Positive
  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    omg the double jump

  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    I do wanna play this but it's just not as high priority as it might have been under other circumstances

    QRK7dOP.gif
    PSN: GrahamCR | 3DS Friend Code: 4399-2068-5090 | Switch Friend Code: SW-7440-9863-2027
    MaximumSkeithVeldrin
  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    I had trouble understanding why everyone loved the Nemesis system in the first game, because I just decapped everyone.

    And then that stopped being so easy, and it became amazing

    torchlight-sig-80.jpg
  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    Perrsun wrote: »

    After figuring out some of the mechanics (like "decapitating makes them perma-dead")

    not actually true as it turns out

  • PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    I'm about 40 minutes into the quick look and I guess this game is a lot bigger than the first one.

    Switch: SW-6132-4331-5349 || Steam
  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    Peewi wrote: »
    I'm about 40 minutes into the quick look and I guess this game is a lot bigger than the first one.

    plus motherfucking pokeorc battles

    i was totally kidding when i joked about those weeks ago and here we are

  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Could you reliably trigger a decapitation? It always seemed to me like the finisher animations happened as they would and I didn't have much control over it

    QRK7dOP.gif
    PSN: GrahamCR | 3DS Friend Code: 4399-2068-5090 | Switch Friend Code: SW-7440-9863-2027
    Olivaw
  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    edited October 2017
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Could you reliably trigger a decapitation? It always seemed to me like the finisher animations happened as they would and I didn't have much control over it

    they pretty much only happened during finishers or, more likely, after interrogating an orc then choosing to kill it. but as far as i found there was never a 100% guaranteed move that did it.

    Magic Pink on
  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    This release date totally snuck up on me

    I reserved and paid this off months ago though, and I get off work early all week, so fuck yessss

    Gonna murder some orcs and hang with sexy spider ladies

  • DeadfallDeadfall Registered User regular
    I have some days off in two weeks so I think I'll dive into this then.

    I got waaaaay into creating my perfect orc army last time around. Except sometimes they'd run away before I could turn them and the only way I found to lure them back was for them to jump in on a Captain fight.

    Which was impossible to do end game when I converted everybody already. So I had this one empty slot. Very frustrating, I hope they address this.

    BFzWh4r.png
    xbl - HowYouGetAnts
    steam - WeAreAllGeth
    www.hoptonogood.com - Beer/Adventure/Life
  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    Having never played the first, I was actually thinking of getting the second one, but Giantbomb's QL turned me off the game.

    There's so much time spent in menus! And I'm sure that appeals to a certain crowd, but not for me.

    Half the time Brad is playing he's just able to run past any orcs or fights and when he does fight it looks just way too crowded.

  • RingoRingo Out of things to say Heartbreak HillRegistered User regular
    Loot boxes were a warning sign to me

    Sexy Shelob makes it a flat out no

    Is it really that hard not to objectify women

    Sterica wrote: »
    I know my last visit to my grandpa on his deathbed was to find out how the whole Nazi werewolf thing turned out.
    Edcrab's Exigency RPG
    Magic PinkEmerlmaster999SyphonBlue
  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    Loot boxes rule, and I'm guessing WB just loves them at this point

    They made Injustice 2 much more engaging

    And from the GameSpot review, it sounds like he was swimming in the currency to buy them by endgame without ever spending any real money

  • DeadfallDeadfall Registered User regular
    edited October 2017
    IGN is saying you earn enough in game silver to buy pretty much everything just by playing the game normally so I guess I'm not terribly worried about loot boxes.

    Deadfall on
    BFzWh4r.png
    xbl - HowYouGetAnts
    steam - WeAreAllGeth
    www.hoptonogood.com - Beer/Adventure/Life
  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    Loot boxes rule, and I'm guessing WB just loves them at this point

    They made Injustice 2 much more engaging

    And from the GameSpot review, it sounds like he was swimming in the currency to buy them by endgame without ever spending any real money
    Deadfall wrote: »
    IGN is saying you earn enough in game silver to buy pretty much everything just by playing the game normally so I guess I'm not terribly worried about loot boxes.

    The reviews I read said the opposite, they had run through all the currency they had earned all game in just about an hour and then had to grind.

    Also lootboxes that you can buy with real money are complete shit.

  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    So don't buy them

  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    Ok let's not

  • TubeTube Administrator, ClubPA admin
    some people like loot boxes others don't others don't care

    there look at all the time I saved you

    Hobnail wrote: »
    This forum has taken everything from me
    This hurts but I deserve it

    Johnny ChopsockyMagic PinkDouglasDangerGrey GhostFencingsaxRhesus PositiveVeldrinPenumbraOlivawJoolander
  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    I do have to say Talion looks ridiculously bad this time, I gotta agree with the GB guys on that. His face is just doofy. And the areas do look a lot smaller.

    Der Waffle MousHermanoOlivaw
  • HermanoHermano Registered User regular
    Kumail Nanjiani is in this playing, uh, Kumail Nanjiani I guess


    PSN- AHermano
  • Medium DaveMedium Dave Registered User regular
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    I do have to say Talion looks ridiculously bad this time, I gotta agree with the GB guys on that. His face is just doofy. And the areas do look a lot smaller.

    It looks like they maybe tried to merge the Ranger face and the Elf face and wound up with...that.

  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    I do have to say Talion looks ridiculously bad this time, I gotta agree with the GB guys on that. His face is just doofy. And the areas do look a lot smaller.

    It looks like they maybe tried to merge the Ranger face and the Elf face and wound up with...that.

    and to fix it they decided to superimpose elf-guy's face over his half the time?

    sounds distressingly believable, actually

  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    edited October 2017
    I don't remember Talion looking that bad in the E3 footage (which had the same scene of Talion and Bruz storming the castle)

    I wonder if the PS4 version is hosed?

    Undead Scottsman on
  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    I don't remember Talion looking that bad in the E3 footage (which had the same scene of Talion and Bruz storming the castle)

    maybe it's just bad on the ps4?

  • KwoaruKwoaru Registered User regular
    Dang I forgot this was coming out so soon, i have no time or money for this right now

    2x39jD4.jpg
  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    Kwoaru wrote: »
    Dang I forgot this was coming out so soon, i have no time or money for this right now

    no worries, it'll only get cheaper. and patched!

  • KwoaruKwoaru Registered User regular
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Kwoaru wrote: »
    Dang I forgot this was coming out so soon, i have no time or money for this right now

    no worries, it'll only get cheaper. and patched!
    Yeah basically by the time I make it through the other games I've been meaning to play this game will hopefully be cheaper and gotten any bugs taken care of

    2x39jD4.jpg
  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    Also isn't Target's B2G1 sale usually around this time? I may pick it up then.

  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    Kyougu wrote: »
    Also isn't Target's B2G1 sale usually around this time? I may pick it up then.

    i swear those were in november

  • ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    edited October 2017
    man this shit is just so fun so far. And I love the silly cheesy story

    From what Ive heard the post game "grind" has been overstated, for what basically amounts to a separate post-game infinite play mode thats there if you want more challenge and to keep playing, with the reward of a bonus cutscene being less the goal than simply just playing more of the gameplay. Its not some true ending you have to grind towards or the game feels incomplete.

    Also reports are that you basically dont need lootboxes, they provide you with lower level orcs and the randomisation means youre better off hunting down and finding orcs with abilities you like in game, and you are swimming in gear and orcs anyway just through normal gameplay by the end apparently. Still, as a practice lootboxes are predatory and disgusting, but it doesnt sound like it affects the gameplay which is what i was worried about

    Really good summary here: https://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/10/what-you-need-to-know-about-shadow-of-wars-controversial-loot-boxes/

    You can throw enemies to their death and it goes into a little like "fall to death" cam. Also lava. And while the environments are all basically the same in terms of creatures and things to do, (and it may be my penchant for all things orc and orcish talking here) but I love how alive the worlds feel, with orcs working slaves, and building stuff, training, eating, fighting, etc.

    Graphics are subpar but the art and design is fantastic, especially on the orcs. Im getting a scorpio so im hoping theres a bit of a boost there

    Prohass on
    Fencingsax
Sign In or Register to comment.