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The Gifted - An X-Men-Ass X-Men Show

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edited October 2017 in Singularity Engine++
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Currently 2 episodes in, The Gifted is a new show on Fox set in a universe filled with mutants, but with no X-Men, after a sudden disappearance. It follows the Strucker family as they up in the Mutant Underground after their children manifest mutant abilities.

So far this is probably the best live action X-Men adaptation I've ever seen. It runs with the "mutants are hated and feared" tenant far more than any of the films and does so in a very grounded way. All of the Mutant powers also look great and it isn't afraid to use named characters as the main cast includes Blink, Thunderbird, Polaris and Eclipse who is TOTALLY NOT SUNSPOT.

I haven't seen too many folks talking about this show but it's real fuckin' good and y'all should watch it.

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited October 2017
    Watch this very good show!

    I genuinely like this show's version of the Sentinels

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  • Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    wow way to quote me in the title and give me no credit

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  • ZonugalZonugal The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    wow way to quote me in the title and give me no credit

    Who?

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  • Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    i'll kill you

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  • VeldrinVeldrin Sham bam bamina Registered User regular
    So how CW is this show exactly?

    Because going by that image, it looks extremely

  • ZonugalZonugal The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    edited October 2017
    Veldrin wrote: »
    So how CW is this show exactly?

    Because going by that image, it looks extremely

    I don't know, lets ask the Gifted expert @Blankzilla.

    I think he's the only poster in here, besides Pony, who watches it.

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  • BlankzillaBlankzilla KOOKABUNGA LIVES Registered User regular
    Veldrin wrote: »
    So how CW is this show exactly?

    Because going by that image, it looks extremely
    Not very, actually

    Like it is Soap-y but not in that CW way, way more actual X-Men comics soap-y

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    I would not say the show is CWish at all

    There's no love triangles, no characters arbitrarily keeping secrets for drama, no characters angsting about whether or not they're doing The Right Thing

    People immediately do what they believe is right. They say sorry when they believe they've done wrong. They forgive who they think deserve it. They love who they love.

    They behave like people instead of weird TV characters, which is nice

    Like for example (spoilers for the first two episodes)
    Reed and Caitlin do not question protecting their children or that Sentinel Services are bad or that going on the run is necessary. Not for a second.

    Marcos and Lorna love each other. Marcos makes some independent decisions without consulting John and John gets pissed about it, but you understand why and John forgives him.

    We find out Lorna is pregnant and Marcos is the father.
    Period. This isn't a question or a point of drama aside from her pregnancy itself being dramatic. But that Marcos is the father isn't a question. Lorna and Marcos didn't know, but that's quite likely because she's very early and they only found out as a result of her jail medical.

    In a shittier show these things might have played different. Not here.

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  • Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    honestly what sold me forever was them using the genosha neck restraints to fuck up mutant powers

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  • VeldrinVeldrin Sham bam bamina Registered User regular
    Ok cool, that's good to hear.

    I'll be checking this out.

  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    honestly what sold me forever was them using the genosha neck restraints to fuck up mutant powers

    I was watching episode 2 with my brother who is a huge X-Men fan and when the collars showed up he was like oh shiiiiiiii

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  • VeldrinVeldrin Sham bam bamina Registered User regular
    edited October 2017
    Wait, do I need to have watched Apocalypse before this, or is it all just pretty ambiguous references?

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  • BlankzillaBlankzilla KOOKABUNGA LIVES Registered User regular
    Veldrin wrote: »
    Wait, do I need to have watched Apocalypse before this?
    Nah it's not in the movie universe

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  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    Just started watching this on Hulu. This shit is great.

    Thanks for the recommendations!

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  • McFodderMcFodder 'SploringRegistered User regular
    Yep, enjoying this a lot so far. I mean, I'll watch Amy Acker in almost anything, but I'd watch this even without her.

    I know it's very early days and it may be the novelty, but I'm already looking forward to this more than the Arrowverse shows except for maybe Legends since that looks to be going properly off the rails in the best possible way again this season.

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  • SnicketysnickSnicketysnick The Greatest Hype Man in WesterosRegistered User regular
    Only had one episode so far over here in the UK but yeah it's very solid, jumping boots first into the whole thing when it'd be easy to try and tiptoe around the comics bit. What really got me funnily enough was a ringtone in that first episode.

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  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    So I have a couple questions

    1) is this set in the same "universe" as Legion

    2) is Legion actually good, because I haven't watched it yet but heard some things

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  • SnicketysnickSnicketysnick The Greatest Hype Man in WesterosRegistered User regular
    edited October 2017
    Olivaw wrote: »
    So I have a couple questions

    1) is this set in the same "universe" as Legion

    2) is Legion actually good, because I haven't watched it yet but heard some things

    99.99999999999999999% not based on costume and technology etc

    Legion is very good

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  • XehalusXehalus lofi Registered User regular
    Polaris is the best Marvel character

  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    I think they're putting things at a very vague "might be in the movie universe, might not"

    I mean, we have no idea what's going on in the movie universe in 2017, and we might not learn that for quite some time

    So they've left a lot of things ambiguous

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  • HawkstoneHawkstone The state of intoxicationRegistered User regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    I think they're putting things at a very vague "might be in the movie universe, might not"

    I mean, we have no idea what's going on in the movie universe in 2017, and we might not learn that for quite some time

    So they've left a lot of things ambiguous

    Adverts are explicitly saying it is set in the X-men universe. They do however avoid outright saying the word movie in said adverts and then the setting is being kept sufficiently vague for it to never need to properly interact in anyway...they name drop but that is about it. It seems like they are to a certain extent trying to have their cake and eat it too at least for now. Legion was also deliberately vague but it didn't make claims to connectivity in either the positive or negative.

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  • DecomposeyDecomposey Registered User regular
    My husband was thrilled last episode because maybe ten minutes after he mentioned that he could have sworn that in the comics Polaris had green hair, Polaris in the show washed the black dye out of her green hair.

    I'm really enjoying they way they deal with they way people react to mutants. It seems to really nail the message from the comics. The blatant hatred from some, the casual racism from others, the people who don't initiate violence who quietly look away. And the way the mutants themselves have to survive in this world. Allegory to the gills.

    Before following any advice, opinions, or thoughts I may have expressed in the above post, be warned: I found Keven Costners "Waterworld" to be a very entertaining film.
  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    The only part of the show that I'm not in love with right now is
    the Polaris prison sequence.

    I think the show has been doing an overall good job with having intersectional mutants (I believe the only white male mutant we've seen so far is Andy), but releasing Polaris into a gen-pop that's full of non-mutant women of color begins to get to that weird point where the mutant metaphor is butting right up against what it's a metaphor for. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it has definitely created a bit of cognitive friction, for me at least.

  • BlankzillaBlankzilla KOOKABUNGA LIVES Registered User regular
    I have a mega crush on Polaris already

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  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    Wonder if Polaris still is Magneto's daughter in this, or if they're just using the name, powers, and green hair.

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  • BlankzillaBlankzilla KOOKABUNGA LIVES Registered User regular
    Wonder if Polaris still is Magneto's daughter in this, or if they're just using the name, powers, and green hair.
    She is confirmed to be Magneto's daughter in interviews

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    man, magneto settin' up franchises in the movie universe, yo

    like he has quicksilver and his sister who may or may not be wanda

    he has his daughter in X-Men Apocalypse

    Polaris

    Erik, buddy

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  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    I'm wondering what the next X-Men tv show starring the child of one of the main characters from the X-Men films is going to be, personally

    We gonna get a Raze Darkholme show or what?

  • Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    I'm wondering what the next X-Men tv show starring the child of one of the main characters from the X-Men films is going to be, personally

    We gonna get a Raze Darkholme show or what?

    excalibur

    starring rachel grey phoenix

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  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    I'm wondering what the next X-Men tv show starring the child of one of the main characters from the X-Men films is going to be, personally

    We gonna get a Raze Darkholme show or what?

    excalibur

    starring rachel grey phoenix

    Okay but yes actually I would love this

    If we could somehow get a TV budget Nightcrawler it could be a twofer

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  • Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    i am trying to will it into existence, i want it so much

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  • HawkstoneHawkstone The state of intoxicationRegistered User regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    Straightzi wrote: »
    I'm wondering what the next X-Men tv show starring the child of one of the main characters from the X-Men films is going to be, personally

    We gonna get a Raze Darkholme show or what?

    excalibur

    starring rachel grey phoenix

    Okay but yes actually I would love this

    If we could somehow get a TV budget Nightcrawler it could be a twofer

    and Lockheed please

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    i'd mix up excalibur teams and also have juggernaut and dazzler on the team too

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  • XehalusXehalus lofi Registered User regular
    the end of ep 2
    is that a reference Essex Corporation

    are we getting Sinister?

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    Xehalus wrote: »
    the end of ep 2
    is that a reference Essex Corporation

    are we getting Sinister?

    Maybe!
    The dude that Garrett Dillahunt is playing is Roderick Campbell/Ahab in the comics, who is tied to Rachel Summers backstory normally

    Also the "siblings in Rio in the 60s" incident? Hrm.
    Maybe the Struckers aren't such an arbitrary name drop!

    In the comics, the Strucker kids are not natural mutants, but are instead given the x-gene in utero by HYDRA scientist Arnim Zola.

    Obviously Fox can't use Zola or HYDRA but they could directly reference the Boys From Brazil and Nazis,
    who we know from First Class were messing with mutants back in the day.

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  • Macro9Macro9 Registered User regular
    I just started to watch this. There's a distinct lack of spandex uniforms and no X-Man. I won't hold it against the show though.

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    Macro9 wrote: »
    I just started to watch this. There's a distinct lack of spandex uniforms and no X-Man. I won't hold it against the show though.

    There are Sentinel robots that hunt mutants though. That has to count for something.
    Sure, they don't look like brightly colored giants. But the creepy giant spider aesthetic works pretty well for them.

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    Well except what see317 said. That guy's always wrong.
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  • Macro9Macro9 Registered User regular
    I'm onto the second episode. I liked the spider sentinels. I liked not sunspots ring tone. The opening scene for the second episode was nice. Feel bad for that girl.

    Goddamn homo sapiens amirite

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  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    They should probably make way for homo superior

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  • XehalusXehalus lofi Registered User regular
    I wonder if they get to why the X-Men disappeared

    or if they just mention Genosha offhand

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