I basically try to survive long enough so that around 26s I use Relm USB and entrust anything left to Tidus and hit him with USB/BSB and hope he dies.
I'm surprised you have any difficulty at all with a team that stacked for water damage. Are you super light on hones or levels or something?
One of them probably should be swapped for an Entruster. That looks like a slow start.
So I have R2/R3 water ninja abilities. With 2 stacks of blink and enwater from burst, I'm doing 7k x 4. Tidus after enwater does 55k with USB, maybe 28k with SS and the chase does 12k, Paine probably hits around 50k with USB after enwater and maybe 24k with engulfing quadstrike. I have (2) water boost weapons, but when I tried with more entrusters and removing Paine, I couldn't beat him under 30s. I also tried 4 entrusters and Tidus, but that didn't cut it either.
I haven't pulled the trigger on Shelke LD yet, which I'm sure would make a difference. Beating this guy is easy with what I have, within 30s is the tough part.
It's a very slow start, I basically start casting USB's/BSB around 13s. Nobody is LD yet either, which would make a difference. I failed the water chain chase and am stalling on LD Tidus or Paine, especially just for one magicite.
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I basically try to survive long enough so that around 26s I use Relm USB and entrust anything left to Tidus and hit him with USB/BSB and hope he dies.
I'm surprised you have any difficulty at all with a team that stacked for water damage. Are you super light on hones or levels or something?
One of them probably should be swapped for an Entruster. That looks like a slow start.
So I have R2/R3 water ninja abilities. With 2 stacks of blink and enwater from burst, I'm doing 7k x 4. Tidus after enwater does 55k with USB, maybe 28k with SS and the chase does 12k, Paine probably hits around 50k with USB after enwater and maybe 24k with engulfing quadstrike. I have (2) water boost weapons, but when I tried with more entrusters and removing Paine, I couldn't beat him under 30s. I also tried 4 entrusters and Tidus, but that didn't cut it either.
I haven't pulled the trigger on Shelke LD yet, which I'm sure would make a difference. Beating this guy is easy with what I have, within 30s is the tough part.
It's a very slow start, I basically start casting USB's/BSB around 13s. Nobody is LD yet either, which would make a difference. I failed the water chain chase and am stalling on LD Tidus or Paine, especially just for one magicite.
Most of the best dives are elemental. If a dive will help solidify a sub30, it's eminently worth doing if it was a good dive.
I'm very surprised swapping one of them for an Entrust isn't doing the trick. Dropping Edge may actually be the better bet given the need to keep his Blinks up (and Paine gets the same fastcast). What RMs are you using? TGC on Tidus, LW on Paine (maybe Scholar's Boon actually since you don't have the LD). Initial entrust to Paine, then Wrath+immediate entrust to Tidus and future entrusts to Tidus should be very strong.
I put together a decent team for BFA Apoc+ MP but my phone took forever to load and everyone disconnected. It put me in the fight, however, with control of all eight characters. So I gave it a shot.
Easy! Not pictured, the first/only Chain, which reached 200% as "we" killed him. I think it got up to 220-230 actual as BFA died to that bottom Tidus getting a Doublecast.
i wish the guardbringer changes went through already. i really want a nice multi hit knight ability thats better than saint cross, but guardbringer is so meh until the changes.
assault saber is good but i'm not sure i'm going to make it, too many power and lightning orbs for something that halves your defense.
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BeastehTHAT WOULD NOTKILL DRACULARegistered Userregular
I'm actually out of Lightning orbs so I need to start farming Hydra
I basically try to survive long enough so that around 26s I use Relm USB and entrust anything left to Tidus and hit him with USB/BSB and hope he dies.
I'm surprised you have any difficulty at all with a team that stacked for water damage. Are you super light on hones or levels or something?
One of them probably should be swapped for an Entruster. That looks like a slow start.
So I have R2/R3 water ninja abilities. With 2 stacks of blink and enwater from burst, I'm doing 7k x 4. Tidus after enwater does 55k with USB, maybe 28k with SS and the chase does 12k, Paine probably hits around 50k with USB after enwater and maybe 24k with engulfing quadstrike. I have (2) water boost weapons, but when I tried with more entrusters and removing Paine, I couldn't beat him under 30s. I also tried 4 entrusters and Tidus, but that didn't cut it either.
I haven't pulled the trigger on Shelke LD yet, which I'm sure would make a difference. Beating this guy is easy with what I have, within 30s is the tough part.
It's a very slow start, I basically start casting USB's/BSB around 13s. Nobody is LD yet either, which would make a difference. I failed the water chain chase and am stalling on LD Tidus or Paine, especially just for one magicite.
If you care at all about sub-30s on Magicite, Shelke LD mades a HUGE difference for me. Fully 5/8 of them wouldn't have been possible for me without her instant cast. It's like having an extra Mako Might, with the option for turn 1 instant RW.
15 myth now. I'll be able to pull here when the time comes. And there's still goodies I may want. Stuff like the wind Chain, Cloud USB, Shelke's BSB, Balthier's fire stuff, maybe Raines's OSB for total overkill.
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Wait, does Flashing Blade boost the cast speed of all abilities? I thought it was just a boost to recasts of Flashing Blade itself.
assault saber is good but i'm not sure i'm going to make it, too many power and lightning orbs for something that halves your defense.
it's -30% DEF, just like all of the many +ATK/-DEF burst commands that people use without a second thought. I think it's fine, I'll probably hone one copy as an option for characters who can't quite get to the full number of hits for Guardbringer.
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SpectrumArcher of InfernoChaldea Rec RoomRegistered Userregular
assault saber is good but i'm not sure i'm going to make it, too many power and lightning orbs for something that halves your defense.
it's -30% DEF, just like all of the many +ATK/-DEF burst commands that people use without a second thought. I think it's fine, I'll probably hone one copy as an option for characters who can't quite get to the full number of hits for Guardbringer.
Actually, I had to stop using that bargain on Refia on Sealion because she was blowing up...
I'm way too strong in all three of the DU realms to even think about considering a pull. The few grand prizes are far too few, and given the popularity of 7 and 13, the amount of garbage is staggering.
A half price banner with Vayne and Raines OSBs = always pull for me. Plus there's plenty of characters in these realms I plain don't have anything for.
I still have nothing for lightning other than a unique, somehow. Figure that one out.
So there's no point in not using the stamina potions from last week on sundaily, right? New dailies are next week, so hill onto this week's, but last week's is "nothing better to do"?
I keep forgetting I have stamina potions. Yeah i should use those on Sundaily.
Also despite having really strong synergy on those realms I'm pulling anyway because there's a ton of stuff I don't have and also shot at Lightning BSB2.
I still have nothing for lightning other than a unique, somehow. Figure that one out.
So there's no point in not using the stamina potions from last week on sundaily, right? New dailies are next week, so hill onto this week's, but last week's is "nothing better to do"?
At absolute most, you'd want to save one. But also, it's just 100 stamina and these dungeons ain't going anywhere ever. Nor are there (probably) going to be any orbfests in the known future. New dailies are the 18th.
Dec 6: +4 stamina potions (5000 gysahl x2, 100 gysahl x2)
Dec 13: +4 stamina potions (5000 gysahl x2, 100 gysahl x2)
Dec 18: Daily rollover
You could delay buying the Dec 13th stamina potions until the 18th. I won't even have the greens to get any of the 5k ones (I'm at ~4k right now from not doing dailies in FOREVER). But again, you're just going to be at most 400 stamina ahead on things that are never going away, ever. I predict people will be doing the stamina potion hoarding thing come mote dungeon refresh too though.
I'm on 334k greens which is from hitting dailies for a while and not really spending any. I stopped buying majors completely when the JS torments hit the scene and I could farm those reliably so the two 5k stamina potions are really like buying a major orb a week to me. Only that, 100 stamina >>>>> 1 major orb.
gluing an ace striker entrust bot to tidus is really silly. tidus LSes the first 3 turns, casts ultra, entrust bombs in 2 bars, and you end up instacasting tidus ultra on 4 consecutive turns if the boss hits a lot.
was dumb, i should probably dive tidus at some point.
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100 Gem: 3*
14 in a row
welp
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silence1186Character shields down!As a wingmanRegistered Userregular
FFTA-2 100 gems: 3* misery
Data for posterity:
6 misses in a row
20/182 lifetime
1/22 this batch
9/65 last batch (0.1 items below EV, which is pretty much exactly expected return, though quite a few duds even on my hits)
Note to self: No whining, Rikku USB, never forget. Also Cloud BSB2.
I basically try to survive long enough so that around 26s I use Relm USB and entrust anything left to Tidus and hit him with USB/BSB and hope he dies.
I'm surprised you have any difficulty at all with a team that stacked for water damage. Are you super light on hones or levels or something?
One of them probably should be swapped for an Entruster. That looks like a slow start.
So I have R2/R3 water ninja abilities. With 2 stacks of blink and enwater from burst, I'm doing 7k x 4. Tidus after enwater does 55k with USB, maybe 28k with SS and the chase does 12k, Paine probably hits around 50k with USB after enwater and maybe 24k with engulfing quadstrike. I have (2) water boost weapons, but when I tried with more entrusters and removing Paine, I couldn't beat him under 30s. I also tried 4 entrusters and Tidus, but that didn't cut it either.
I haven't pulled the trigger on Shelke LD yet, which I'm sure would make a difference. Beating this guy is easy with what I have, within 30s is the tough part.
It's a very slow start, I basically start casting USB's/BSB around 13s. Nobody is LD yet either, which would make a difference. I failed the water chain chase and am stalling on LD Tidus or Paine, especially just for one magicite.
Most of the best dives are elemental. If a dive will help solidify a sub30, it's eminently worth doing if it was a good dive.
I'm very surprised swapping one of them for an Entrust isn't doing the trick. Dropping Edge may actually be the better bet given the need to keep his Blinks up (and Paine gets the same fastcast). What RMs are you using? TGC on Tidus, LW on Paine (maybe Scholar's Boon actually since you don't have the LD). Initial entrust to Paine, then Wrath+immediate entrust to Tidus and future entrusts to Tidus should be very strong.
Hey, I have this a shot and it is a reliable method for sub 30 liquid flame! After LD Shelke.
Tidus usb lifesiphon and R3 SS and scholar’s boon.
Paine usb with R3 engulfing quadstrike and the basic waters spell blade and TS.
Shelke with R2 entrust and wrath and
Relm usb with shellga and ultra cure with MM.
Ramza with shout, entrust and wrath with DMT.
Enkidu and wall.
Shelke entrusts Paine, wrath and entrusts Tidus. Paine opens with USB and uses engulfing quadstrike until Relm uses USB.
Tidus lifesiphons, SS then USB and SS until entrusted around 18s or so.
Ramza shout and entrust bot.
Relm calls wall, shellga, ultra cure until USB is ready.
This works pretty well. Once Relm USB goes off, I keep entrusting everything to Tidus for his USB.
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SpectrumArcher of InfernoChaldea Rec RoomRegistered Userregular
If I wanted to fight an enemy who takes 50 turns to my 1, and then interrupts and slows my best unit right before his turn comes up, I'd play Tactics A2 and climb Brightmoon Tor.
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38thDoelets never be stupid againwait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered Userregular
Mateus mp was fun. Killed the a plus with 42k lifesiphon.
I didn't have any real issue with either. Got the MP in one try with your standard uber Cloud doing most of the damage, and chucked Garland (CSB/BSB) and Sephiroth (BSB2) at the A+ version, used wall natively, and an Iris SSB to deal with the slowgas, so it died ignobly in a lot of screaming pain.
Mateus Jump Start was fun. Got to try out Ramza's LMR + USB and that was pretty damn nice. Turn 1 Ramza USB into Tyro Wall, Rosa with the Rikku USB RW, Tidus with the Chain, and Shadow doing his thing. Defenses + setup done before the boss even had a chance to move.
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So I have R2/R3 water ninja abilities. With 2 stacks of blink and enwater from burst, I'm doing 7k x 4. Tidus after enwater does 55k with USB, maybe 28k with SS and the chase does 12k, Paine probably hits around 50k with USB after enwater and maybe 24k with engulfing quadstrike. I have (2) water boost weapons, but when I tried with more entrusters and removing Paine, I couldn't beat him under 30s. I also tried 4 entrusters and Tidus, but that didn't cut it either.
I haven't pulled the trigger on Shelke LD yet, which I'm sure would make a difference. Beating this guy is easy with what I have, within 30s is the tough part.
It's a very slow start, I basically start casting USB's/BSB around 13s. Nobody is LD yet either, which would make a difference. I failed the water chain chase and am stalling on LD Tidus or Paine, especially just for one magicite.
8+12+22=44/144
That is getting remarkably close to a skip but I'm so desperate for VII relics that I have to keep pulling.
Most of the best dives are elemental. If a dive will help solidify a sub30, it's eminently worth doing if it was a good dive.
I'm very surprised swapping one of them for an Entrust isn't doing the trick. Dropping Edge may actually be the better bet given the need to keep his Blinks up (and Paine gets the same fastcast). What RMs are you using? TGC on Tidus, LW on Paine (maybe Scholar's Boon actually since you don't have the LD). Initial entrust to Paine, then Wrath+immediate entrust to Tidus and future entrusts to Tidus should be very strong.
Easy! Not pictured, the first/only Chain, which reached 200% as "we" killed him. I think it got up to 220-230 actual as BFA died to that bottom Tidus getting a Doublecast.
Inquisitor77: Rius, you are Sisyphus and melee Wizard is your boulder
Tube: This must be what it felt like to be an Iraqi when Saddam was killed
Bookish Stickers - Mrs. Rius' Etsy shop with bumper stickers and vinyl decals.
That's not what magicites are for.
assault saber is good but i'm not sure i'm going to make it, too many power and lightning orbs for something that halves your defense.
If you care at all about sub-30s on Magicite, Shelke LD mades a HUGE difference for me. Fully 5/8 of them wouldn't have been possible for me without her instant cast. It's like having an extra Mako Might, with the option for turn 1 instant RW.
I am a simple man. I see half price, I pull.
I've got 10+8+19 = 37
I'm still going to hope for Lightning's USB....
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Wait, does Flashing Blade boost the cast speed of all abilities? I thought it was just a boost to recasts of Flashing Blade itself.
it's -30% DEF, just like all of the many +ATK/-DEF burst commands that people use without a second thought. I think it's fine, I'll probably hone one copy as an option for characters who can't quite get to the full number of hits for Guardbringer.
Actually, I had to stop using that bargain on Refia on Sealion because she was blowing up...
Inquisitor77: Rius, you are Sisyphus and melee Wizard is your boulder
Tube: This must be what it felt like to be an Iraqi when Saddam was killed
Bookish Stickers - Mrs. Rius' Etsy shop with bumper stickers and vinyl decals.
So there's no point in not using the stamina potions from last week on sundaily, right? New dailies are next week, so hill onto this week's, but last week's is "nothing better to do"?
Also despite having really strong synergy on those realms I'm pulling anyway because there's a ton of stuff I don't have and also shot at Lightning BSB2.
Nope. Two weeks and change.
Dec 6: +4 stamina potions (5000 gysahl x2, 100 gysahl x2)
Dec 13: +4 stamina potions (5000 gysahl x2, 100 gysahl x2)
Dec 18: Daily rollover
You could delay buying the Dec 13th stamina potions until the 18th. I won't even have the greens to get any of the 5k ones (I'm at ~4k right now from not doing dailies in FOREVER). But again, you're just going to be at most 400 stamina ahead on things that are never going away, ever. I predict people will be doing the stamina potion hoarding thing come mote dungeon refresh too though.
was dumb, i should probably dive tidus at some point.
14 in a row
welp
Data for posterity:
20/182 lifetime
1/22 this batch
9/65 last batch (0.1 items below EV, which is pretty much exactly expected return, though quite a few duds even on my hits)
Note to self: No whining, Rikku USB, never forget. Also Cloud BSB2.
Why.
My other healer USB is Selphie's, which does literally the exact same thing, except regen instead of res buff.
Fucking FINALLY. Feel like I've been hoarding motes for her for months. Because I think I actually have been.
Heh, just did the same thing.
I'm using up my luck before the fest on horrible things.
This bodes ill.
E:
DeNA does know how FFT ends, right?
E2:
Goddamn, Agrias. Capping Divine Cross against the U++ even before Shout's up? Savage.
Hey, I have this a shot and it is a reliable method for sub 30 liquid flame! After LD Shelke.
Tidus usb lifesiphon and R3 SS and scholar’s boon.
Paine usb with R3 engulfing quadstrike and the basic waters spell blade and TS.
Shelke with R2 entrust and wrath and
Relm usb with shellga and ultra cure with MM.
Ramza with shout, entrust and wrath with DMT.
Enkidu and wall.
Shelke entrusts Paine, wrath and entrusts Tidus. Paine opens with USB and uses engulfing quadstrike until Relm uses USB.
Tidus lifesiphons, SS then USB and SS until entrusted around 18s or so.
Ramza shout and entrust bot.
Relm calls wall, shellga, ultra cure until USB is ready.
This works pretty well. Once Relm USB goes off, I keep entrusting everything to Tidus for his USB.
Damage is pretty high, would recommend a third MAG break and having a LD'd doublecast healer instead (or Rosa USB).
Hey, Shadow, what's up?
Got enough vit motes to full dive ya boy Butz who is good enough to be on pretty much all of my magicite teams
If I wanted to fight an enemy who takes 50 turns to my 1, and then interrupts and slows my best unit right before his turn comes up, I'd play Tactics A2 and climb Brightmoon Tor.
38thDoE on steam
Nevermind. Figured it out. No SB meter to Entrust. I was using OK to entrust when it was Ramza who had the meter to spare. :P
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