[Star Wars: X-Wing Miniatures] 2e is Shipping?!

Phoenix-D

italianranma wrote: »

What makes all the difference to me is that McQuarrie designs have square intakes that could lead to anything, even an impulse engine, while the actual movie designs lead to half of a turbine. Half of a turbine doesn’t work.

http://serpentorslair.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/dashing-resistance-pilot-poe-dameron-oscar-isaac-stands-alongside-his-trusty-x-wing-fighter.jpg

They aren't really turbine blades. WTF they do who knows.

see317

Phoenix-D wrote: »

italianranma wrote: »

What makes all the difference to me is that McQuarrie designs have square intakes that could lead to anything, even an impulse engine, while the actual movie designs lead to half of a turbine. Half of a turbine doesn’t work.

http://serpentorslair.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/dashing-resistance-pilot-poe-dameron-oscar-isaac-stands-alongside-his-trusty-x-wing-fighter.jpg

They aren't really turbine blades. WTF they do who knows.

Science fiction/space magic!
In a universe where they have mastered anti gravity to the point it can be used for a teenage farmboy's first ride, the actual drives could be powered by pretty much anything.

wonderpug

Phoenix-D wrote: »

italianranma wrote: »

What makes all the difference to me is that McQuarrie designs have square intakes that could lead to anything, even an impulse engine, while the actual movie designs lead to half of a turbine. Half of a turbine doesn’t work.

http://serpentorslair.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/dashing-resistance-pilot-poe-dameron-oscar-isaac-stands-alongside-his-trusty-x-wing-fighter.jpg

They aren't really turbine blades. WTF they do who knows.

If I were to guess, I'd say those aren't turbines we're seeing on the Incom-FreiTek 5L5 Fusial Thrust Split-Engines, but actually electromagnetic gyros and retro-thrust nozzles, which of course don't need to be a full circle to operate.

Dr_Keenbean

First panel super relevant.

italianranma

2nd and 3rd panels relevant as well IMO. We all agree that there’s a certain level of disbelief required, and anytime something changes we need to readjust our perceptions. Remember how people were reacting to Kylo Ren’s lightsaber crossguard? The form itself raises questions about function: can lightsaber blades slide down each other necessitating it’s need? If so, why haven’t they before? If there’s one complaint I have about the current Star Wars design team it’s that the lore is volatile enough that we do see things behaving differently from movie to movie.

So science fiction space wizards not withstanding, seeing that those engines aren’t turbines does allow me to enjoy the design.

MNC Dover

I always figured engines/turbine design was like that because it was inspired by some real-world ship at the time. Plus they perfectly aligned with the 4 engines exhausts on the back, causing me to link them together as a set of 4 engines. The half engine design of the T-70 breaks the symmetry in my mind.

Mr. G

I sold my fairly small collection of stuff about a year ago

Might get back in on 2E, which seems like an amazing amount of changes

The only problem is my friends who play started playing it on Tabletop Simulator and now they never want to play it in-person again

Brainleech

The problem is my brother gave up on it last summer with the return of 40k
Shadespire and Nercomunda gleefully took it's place because well both of us wanted more of a reason to play it other than just because
Which is my rant of missions and campaigns


We still have all the ships and such just it's going to be hard justifying getting the upgrade packs when I can just get another warband or two for Shadespire and still have cash left over

webguy20

Brainleech wrote: »

The problem is my brother gave up on it last summer with the return of 40k
Shadespire and Nercomunda gleefully took it's place because well both of us wanted more of a reason to play it other than just because
Which is my rant of missions and campaigns


We still have all the ships and such just it's going to be hard justifying getting the upgrade packs when I can just get another warband or two for Shadespire and still have cash left over

Did you ever play Heroes of the Arturi Cluster? My friend and I have been chipping away at that over the last 18 months or so.

Brainleech

webguy20 wrote: »

Brainleech wrote: »

The problem is my brother gave up on it last summer with the return of 40k
Shadespire and Nercomunda gleefully took it's place because well both of us wanted more of a reason to play it other than just because
Which is my rant of missions and campaigns


We still have all the ships and such just it's going to be hard justifying getting the upgrade packs when I can just get another warband or two for Shadespire and still have cash left over

Did you ever play Heroes of the Arturi Cluster? My friend and I have been chipping away at that over the last 18 months or so.

No

webguy20

Brainleech wrote: »

webguy20 wrote: »

Brainleech wrote: »

The problem is my brother gave up on it last summer with the return of 40k
Shadespire and Nercomunda gleefully took it's place because well both of us wanted more of a reason to play it other than just because
Which is my rant of missions and campaigns


We still have all the ships and such just it's going to be hard justifying getting the upgrade packs when I can just get another warband or two for Shadespire and still have cash left over

Did you ever play Heroes of the Arturi Cluster? My friend and I have been chipping away at that over the last 18 months or so.

No

It's a free campaign for X-wing thats available online in PDF form. It's real fun if you want a structured form of play for X-wing. the players are the rebels and a neat AI systems governs the empire ships.

You should check it out!

Fuselage

@DaMoonRulz ran a game of it using Vassal on the forums.

It was excellent.

https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/202584/heroes-of-the-aturi-cluster-bantha-squadron-nobody-home/p1

Athenor

Reading between the lines of the press conference, supposedly the new app will support and encourage that kind of play too.

Fuselage

Athenor wrote: »

Reading between the lines of the press conference, supposedly the new app will support and encourage that kind of play too.

God I hope so. If it can function as a card generator I won't have to reinstall Photoshop to make a new version of Ewok Marines!

Elvenshae

Fuselage wrote: »

@DaMoonRulz ran a game of it using Vassal on the forums.

It was excellent.

https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/202584/heroes-of-the-aturi-cluster-bantha-squadron-nobody-home/p1

So many broken picture links in that thread makes me sad, though ...

Fuselage

Elvenshae wrote: »

Fuselage wrote: »

@DaMoonRulz ran a game of it using Vassal on the forums.

It was excellent.

https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/202584/heroes-of-the-aturi-cluster-bantha-squadron-nobody-home/p1

So many broken picture links in that thread makes me sad, though ...

Well, shit.

Brainleech

Fuselage wrote: »

Elvenshae wrote: »

Fuselage wrote: »

@DaMoonRulz ran a game of it using Vassal on the forums.

It was excellent.

https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/202584/heroes-of-the-aturi-cluster-bantha-squadron-nobody-home/p1

So many broken picture links in that thread makes me sad, though ...

Well, shit.

That's the new photobucket for you
A cash grab that broke the internet

Athenor

Fuselage wrote: »

Athenor wrote: »

Reading between the lines of the press conference, supposedly the new app will support and encourage that kind of play too.

God I hope so. If it can function as a card generator I won't have to reinstall Photoshop to make a new version of Ewok Marines!

Not a card generator, but lets you set costs, restrictions, etc.

DaMoonRulz

@Fuselage @Elvenshae @Brainleech

Fuselage

Man, that's really the best song too.

Athenor

A reminder that in about 30 minutes, ffg is going live on twitch for unboxings of the conversion kits. So more info will be incoming.

Edit:

Status report! ... Where do I begin...

crimsoncoyote

MAN
that was some good shit

I'm pretty excited for the HWK?????

Mr. G

Begin somewhere please i wanna know real bad and I’m at work!

crimsoncoyote

TIE Striker gets a bomb slot


Let's see what I can do about posting other stuff

Polaritie

crimsoncoyote wrote: »

TIE Striker gets a bomb slot


Let's see what I can do about posting other stuff

Striker 2k moved to 1k.

Lambda has coordinate and reinforce.
Defender gets another shield, x7 baked in, 2k red. Ryad k turns now white.

crimsoncoyote

https://imgur.com/a/2wdaaoi <<<< use this link

Does this link work?
This is all the screen caps I managed to take.
Didn't get everything though, and they talked about some things that weren't on cards.

Edit:
Some comments I made, but didn't take caps of -

y-wing is getting a bunch of upgrade icons
bombs, gunner, ept on most elite pilots, etc

awing has vectored thrusters
after you perform an action, you can red boost
blue 2s, 3-4-5 blue straight
3 sloops
5 k turn
5 actions
incl TL
barrel roll
and boost

bwing next
4/4 hull/shield
1 tallon rolls
3 blue straight
still has 2 kturn
linked broll

tie fighters mostly the same
sabine pretty much has same ability
ezra attack shuttle mostly the same

docking is attached to the ship itself
sheathipede has reverse maneuver
gives Ghost coordinate

ghost has reinforce
ghost rear arc gets shoots with the docked shuttle out the rear
phantom can re-dock to ghost
title is "you can dock at 0-1 range"

auzituck: 3/1/6/2
red broll
reinforce (reduces attacks to a minimum 1 damage)
has a stop maneuver

moldy crow title: adds front arc primary with 3 dice
and has old moldy crow
(though limited; maxes at 2)
in the same title

uwing has red coordinate
more blue
medium base
pivot wing title lets you flip before you activate
and you can turn 90 or 180 deg when you do a 0

kwing - medium ship
SLAM
white reload
dual-rotating arc primary

Engine upgrade turns red boost white

no more cannon upgrade on the yt-2400

z95 slightly improved
red barrel roll

only 1 bonus attack per round in general

Expert Handling makes red b-roll white

Dash rendar: "when you move, ignore obstacles"

hera (ghost): 5 initiative, same ability

jan ors similar to 1.0 - target ship needs to be in your arc

Athenor

I didn't catch it at first, but anything with an up arrow on a charge recharges 1 token a turn.

Athenor

Vader with targeting computers is gonna be stupid.


Edit: Wait, misread, you are activating so the targeting sensors would override Vader.. right?

crimsoncoyote

You'd be able to use Vader's ability after you perform the Adv Sensors action after you reveal.
Vader's ability reads as you being able to use his ability multiple times per turn? Dunno if there's any innate limitation on Force abilities.

Athenor

crimsoncoyote wrote: »

You'd be able to use Vader's ability after you perform the Adv Sensors action after you reveal.
Vader's ability reads as you being able to use his ability multiple times per turn? Dunno if there's any innate limitation on Force abilities.

The limitation is the charges. He has 3, and recharges 1 a turn.

crimsoncoyote

Adv Sensors, TL, Focus->Barrel Roll into blue maneuver would be strong with Vader.

Also, I just noticed that Advanced Targeting Computer doesn't prevent you from spending TL anymore.

Turkson

Oh, pilot skill and ability nerf to Miranda Doni. Good

crimsoncoyote

Updated the imgur link

https://imgur.com/a/2wdaaoi (if you dont want to scroll back)

see317

Is it too early to start wondering when we'll see the new TIE from Solo on the table?

I found this picture of the new TIE model from the trailer with a little information on Nissan's site. I'm not sure how they got the Star Wars license for car dealers, or why there's a Star Wars license for care dealers, but it's an interesting looking fighter.

HEAVY ARMORED TIE FIGHTER
Full Technical Name: Sienar Fleet Systems TIE/rb heavy starfighter
Compensating for the relative fragility of the unshielded TIE starfighter is the armored TIE/rb, a reinforced heavy starfighter with much more powerful laser cannons.

Phoenix-D

I love when they put turrets on TIEs as if the field of view isn't 90% blocked.

crimsoncoyote

I think those are front-facing fixed cannons, not turrets

see317

It does have kind of a ball turret look to it where it's mounted.

Maybe it rotates along the vertical axis rather than horizontally?
That would help if you had someone chasing you, or if you had to make attack runs on large, fixed emplacements or strafe a capital ship. You could fly straight forward, following the ship's hull instead of having to dive straight at it.

Phoenix-D wrote: »

I love when they put turrets on TIEs as if the field of view isn't 90% blocked.

It's still a better location then the TIE Tank's turreted laser.
Of course, any bar set by the TIE tank is pretty easy to clear.

Fuselage

http://heroesoftheaturicluster.blogspot.com.au/2018/05/mission-02-capture-officer.html?m=1

Scroll down a bit for the pictures. Pretty neat format, I'd definitely consider it if I still had Photoshop. Whole blog for HotAC. If any of you play in Tabletop Simulator I'd love to see this!

Mr. G

Who have we seen that have Force powers so far?

I know we've seen Luke, Vader, Asajj Ventress, Grand Inquisitor, and Regular-Ass Inquisitor, but that doesn't seem like a ton

Elvenshae

Emperor.