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[Star Wars: X-Wing Miniatures] 2e is Shipping?!

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Game Designer/Stay-at-home Dad Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    That Proton Torpedo upgrade cards is kind of bonkers too. Nice to see the flagship fighter getting some much needed love.

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    FUCKING FINALLY HOLY SHIT.

    This is everything I ever wanted.

    Now to buy multiples and repaint all the X-Wing models into red squadron for those sweet S-Foils.

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  • timspork's ghosttimspork's ghost Master Librarian and Ghostbuster Registered User regular
    Jesus I only just saw the upgrade card! -2 points AND your EPTs are cheaper too? All for the cost of the torpedo slot barely anyone used? AND free S-Foils?

    AAAAAAAAAAAA

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  • BrainleechBrainleech Registered User regular
    Still I want mission packs/campaigns instead of more ships

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  • AthenorAthenor Who needs lions when you have a battlecruiser? Registered User regular
    Brainleech wrote: »
    Still I want mission packs/campaigns instead of more ships

    I agree, the concept behind the Corellean Conflict was great and one of these days they need to replicate Star Trek Attack Wing. Given that both releases in this wave are large boxes, maybe they'll throw in a mission or two.

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  • ChrysisChrysis Registered User regular
    Looks like I've decided on a list. Now to remember how to fly.
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  • ElderCatElderCat Registered User, ClubPA regular

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    X-wing fix:
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    pilots:
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    pilot_saw_gerrera.pngpilot_benthic_two_tubes.png

    Crew:
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    Astromech:
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    WOW!.... Wow.
    With integrated Astromech the T-65 is amazing.
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    Since we don't know the cost of the generic (although its at MOST 20): Rookie Pilot, FAA, Renegade Refit, S-foils, Integrated Astromech is 20 points. 6 hit points and decent maneuverability.




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  • PolaritiePolaritie Oh I didn't see this box. Registered User regular
    Ahahaha... Tactical Officer means Imperials can now field coordinate for 18 points with TIE shuttle.

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  • TurksonTurkson Near the mountains of ColoradoRegistered User regular
    edited May 1
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    We missed a few places...
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  • PolaritiePolaritie Oh I didn't see this box. Registered User regular
    edited May 1
    Yeah, hard to link from work.

    But Tactical Officer is really good.

    All the crew in it seem really good.

    Also, being able to target the ship you just jammed with the ISB Slicer to make absolutely sure a jamming token sticks to them is really nice for dealing with things like Poe.

    I love how ridiculously maneuverable it is too, with that potential bank>sloop and such.

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  • TurksonTurkson Near the mountains of ColoradoRegistered User regular
    Director Krennic in a TIE Phantom...

    We missed a few places...
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  • ElderCatElderCat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Turkson wrote: »
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    Pilots:
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    Upgrades:
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    Crew:
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  • PolaritiePolaritie Oh I didn't see this box. Registered User regular
    Oh yeah, and we still have two upgrade cards we can't tell a damn thing about in that fan, which ought to be interesting... one of them's unique too. Multi-something camo, small ship only...

    Hmm. Feroph with slicer, Kalus, title, LWF, and something annoying for EPT ought to be cute.

    Also something I saw pointed out elsewhere? TIE MkII turns the title banks green as written. This means you can double proc Systems Officer, at the cost of not having LWF. Technically that applies to the Striker as well, there's just nothing that cares that I can think of (the one crit that makes you stress on white, I guess? But since you can't use the titles WHILE stressed, no double-destress shenanigans).

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  • BetsuniBetsuni Insert Disk 4 and Press Any Key to Continue Registered User regular
    This reminds me. We never got Krennic's shuttle... Guessing that is next?

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Oh I didn't see this box. Registered User regular
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    Hmm. Vizier, TIE MkII, Title, Systems Officer, Recon Specialist. 29 points, can hand out focus and TLs like candy to strikers.

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  • PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    Hyperspace Report going on right now, X-Wing Second Edition just announced.

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  • AthenorAthenor Who needs lions when you have a battlecruiser? Registered User regular
    Complete backwards compatible sets!

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  • AthenorAthenor Who needs lions when you have a battlecruiser? Registered User regular
    No points for upgrades or ships - all the point values and such are in the app, allowing OP to adjust things on the fly much faster.

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  • AthenorAthenor Who needs lions when you have a battlecruiser? Registered User regular
    edited May 1
    Ooh! Wave 14 will feature components for both 1st and 2nd edition!

    2nd edition early releases at GenCon, with full release in September.

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Oh I didn't see this box. Registered User regular
    Oh wow. Did not expect that. Also this will let them fix a lot of old ships that have no hope of a title ever coming (Punishers, lol)

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  • BetsuniBetsuni Insert Disk 4 and Press Any Key to Continue Registered User regular
    Hope they post pics or something since I can't stream right now.

    Or is the box the same as the first just different rules?

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  • AthenorAthenor Who needs lions when you have a battlecruiser? Registered User regular
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    Betsuni wrote: »
    Hope they post pics or something since I can't stream right now.

    Or is the box the same as the first just different rules?

    Box is very different, though it comes with the same ships.

    From the developer panel:

    1- Lancer style turrets is going to be the norm going forward.
    2- Each base will have the Bullseye arc
    3- redos to locks, a few other mechanics.

    Push the Limit is gone, now a core mechanic. Ships have linked mechanics.

    Introducing red actions, linked. Like, the Y-wing will have a red action Barrel Roll.

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  • AthenorAthenor Who needs lions when you have a battlecruiser? Registered User regular
    OP kits going forward will include 2nd edition products as previews.

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  • AthenorAthenor Who needs lions when you have a battlecruiser? Registered User regular
    edited May 1
    Oh, nice! the new ship cards for any of the new pilots in 2nd edition will be in the conversion kits!

    Edit: Okay, force charges. Force sensitive people will have 1-3 charges.

    Charges can be spent like a mini focus, but you also have force power upgrades, which are powered by the points.

    For crew, they can provide 1 charge and enhance the pilot in ways.

    Edit2: Wave 2 will feature Resistance and First Order. They won't go into what exactly wave 2 will feature.

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  • AthenorAthenor Who needs lions when you have a battlecruiser? Registered User regular
    edited May 1
    Bases will have dots to help line up on collisions - combined with the move templates that have a line down the middle.

    There will be "quick pilots" in the new expansions, using that expansion and the core, to get playing quickly.

    Game is now 200 points for more granularity - same size.

    Possibility of quick build drafts.

    Interview with the developers: http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2018/05/ffg-star-wars-x-wing-2-0-announcement-interview.html

    Edit: Landing page and FAQ: https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/x-wing-second-edition/



    Pilot skill is gone, replaced with Initiative. Initiative now goes 1-6. No Veteran's Instincts.

    Combat phase is now called Engagement phase.


    The official page is up now. Gives a good example of how a pilot array will look. Note the cards are now all Standard American sized, and upgrades are sideways.

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    Holy shit, the Millenium Falcon doesn't have a front arc?!

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    Jeez, the amount of work the conversion kits must've taken, even dropping out the Force Awakens era stuff and the Epic ships...

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  • BetsuniBetsuni Insert Disk 4 and Press Any Key to Continue Registered User regular
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    I really like the new packaging. No more of those annoying 100% plastic containers for the small ships.

    Edit: Thank you for posting the new info here as it comes out. I really appreciate it.

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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    Conversion kits seem... underwhelming? Fiddly? At least with the supported ship counts. Like, the rebellion pack supports 2 Ghosts but at the same time only 2 X-Wings (unless I missed something). Will have to look into it more later.

  • PolaritiePolaritie Oh I didn't see this box. Registered User regular
    Tomanta wrote: »
    Conversion kits seem... underwhelming? Fiddly? At least with the supported ship counts. Like, the rebellion pack supports 2 Ghosts but at the same time only 2 X-Wings (unless I missed something). Will have to look into it more later.

    Saw's Partisan's has 2.0 dials for xwings as well I think.

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  • ShortyShorty JUDGE BROSEF Registered User regular
    initiative 1-6 fixes the main problem I was having which is that Wedge wasn't The Best

    turns out he is still The Best

    really excited about this, I'll definitely pick up the core and at least one conversion kit

  • ArcSynArcSyn Registered User regular
    $50 per conversion kit?

    No, I'm sorry, but no. Unless this completely changes the game for the better, this is ridiculous.

    Maybe I'd buy an app, but paying that much for the cards and dials and base templates, not to mention you may need multiple kits depending on how many they include of each ship? No.

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Game Designer/Stay-at-home Dad Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    I haven't played X-Wing in a long time, but 2.0 is a nice sounding box. Most interesting to me is the app option and a lack of points/upgrades on the cards. Making the cards partially digital allows for great balance control that wasn't possible without massive FAQ lists.

    Not sure if I'll pick it up, or the corresponding conversion kits, but neat all around. Definitely want to hear more. Especially if the conversion kits will include cards that were exclusive to certain sets. Like, I always wanted to fly Porkins, but there was no way in hell I was buying the big ship the card was packed in.

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  • ShortyShorty JUDGE BROSEF Registered User regular
    I would have expected a new edition of x-wing to just deprecate all the old ships so fifty bucks to keep using ~1/3 of my collection doesn't seem unreasonable

    another victory for low expectations!

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  • timspork's ghosttimspork's ghost Master Librarian and Ghostbuster Registered User regular
    Whoa.

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  • AthenorAthenor Who needs lions when you have a battlecruiser? Registered User regular
    ArcSyn wrote: »
    $50 per conversion kit?

    No, I'm sorry, but no. Unless this completely changes the game for the better, this is ridiculous.

    Maybe I'd buy an app, but paying that much for the cards and dials and base templates, not to mention you may need multiple kits depending on how many they include of each ship? No.
    How many ships does each Conversion Kit convert?

    The number of ships supported (by maneuver dials included) in each Conversion Kit are:

    Rebel Alliance Conversion Kit

    3 – A-wing
    2 – ARC-170
    2 – Auzituck Gunship
    2 – B-wing
    2 – E-wing
    2 – Ghost
    2 – HWK-290
    2 – K-wing
    2 – Millennium Falcon
    2 – Phantom I
    2 – Phantom II
    2 – Sabine’s TIE Fighter
    2 – U-wing
    2 – X-wing
    2 – Y-wing
    2 – YT-2400
    4 – Z-95 Headhunter

    Galactic Empire Conversion Kit

    2 – Alpha-class Star Wing
    3 – Inquisitor’s TIE
    2 – Lambda-class Shuttle
    2 – TIE Advanced
    3 – TIE Aggressor
    3 – TIE Bomber
    2 – TIE Defender
    4 – TIE Fighter
    3 – TIE Interceptor
    2 – TIE Phantom
    2 – TIE Punisher
    3 – TIE Striker
    3 – VT-49 Decimator

    Scum and Villainy Conversion Kit

    2 – Hound’s Tooth
    2 – HWK-290
    2 – IG-2000
    3 – Kihraxz Fighter
    2 – Kimogila Fighter
    4 – M3-A Interceptor
    2 – Mist Hunter
    3 – Protectorate Starfighter
    2 – Punishing One
    3 – Quadjumper
    2 – Scurrg H-6 Bomber
    2 – Shadow Caster
    2 – Slave I
    2 – StarViper
    2 – Y-wing
    4 – Z-95 Headhunter


    It sure looks like it changes the game for the better. A ton of quality of life upgrades and general upgrades.

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  • BrainleechBrainleech Registered User regular
    hmm Well I am interested but really the lack of missions and other things kept me from playing the game

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  • AthenorAthenor Who needs lions when you have a battlecruiser? Registered User regular
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    Also snuck in there was a pre-order bonus: A special damage deck!

    If you pre-order through FFG or local stores, you get a standard american sized damage deck with custom artwork on it:

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    Edit:
    Brainleech wrote: »
    hmm Well I am interested but really the lack of missions and other things kept me from playing the game

    They've talked of using the app to customize play formats. I could easily see it being a vehicle for delivering missions.

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  • timspork's ghosttimspork's ghost Master Librarian and Ghostbuster Registered User regular
    At least I now don't have to buy multiples of the Saw's expansion to get a bunch of S-foil closing X-Wings models.

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  • ArcSynArcSyn Registered User regular
    Athenor wrote: »
    ArcSyn wrote: »
    $50 per conversion kit?

    No, I'm sorry, but no. Unless this completely changes the game for the better, this is ridiculous.

    Maybe I'd buy an app, but paying that much for the cards and dials and base templates, not to mention you may need multiple kits depending on how many they include of each ship? No.
    How many ships does each Conversion Kit convert?

    The number of ships supported (by maneuver dials included) in each Conversion Kit are:

    Rebel Alliance Conversion Kit

    3 – A-wing
    2 – ARC-170
    2 – Auzituck Gunship
    2 – B-wing
    2 – E-wing
    2 – Ghost
    2 – HWK-290
    2 – K-wing
    2 – Millennium Falcon
    2 – Phantom I
    2 – Phantom II
    2 – Sabine’s TIE Fighter
    2 – U-wing
    2 – X-wing
    2 – Y-wing
    2 – YT-2400
    4 – Z-95 Headhunter

    Galactic Empire Conversion Kit

    2 – Alpha-class Star Wing
    3 – Inquisitor’s TIE
    2 – Lambda-class Shuttle
    2 – TIE Advanced
    3 – TIE Aggressor
    3 – TIE Bomber
    2 – TIE Defender
    4 – TIE Fighter
    3 – TIE Interceptor
    2 – TIE Phantom
    2 – TIE Punisher
    3 – TIE Striker
    3 – VT-49 Decimator

    Scum and Villainy Conversion Kit

    2 – Hound’s Tooth
    2 – HWK-290
    2 – IG-2000
    3 – Kihraxz Fighter
    2 – Kimogila Fighter
    4 – M3-A Interceptor
    2 – Mist Hunter
    3 – Protectorate Starfighter
    2 – Punishing One
    3 – Quadjumper
    2 – Scurrg H-6 Bomber
    2 – Shadow Caster
    2 – Slave I
    2 – StarViper
    2 – Y-wing
    4 – Z-95 Headhunter


    It sure looks like it changes the game for the better. A ton of quality of life upgrades and general upgrades.

    Definitely a lot of cardboard in those boxes, so they definitely tried to make it so you didn't need to buy multiple of the same faction.

    I'm interested in the app, especially if it's nicer and easier than the clunky fan made ones. I'd rather not have to worry about hundreds of cards if they're just going to move parts of the cards to the app anyway.

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  • ShortyShorty JUDGE BROSEF Registered User regular
    obligatory app usage is potentially fine as long as the app is actually good

    I've never used any of FFG's apps though, except for TOME, which was total garbage (though it was in beta, so maybe it's fine now)

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