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Wizards: The Dumb Nerds That Can. An Melding Guide

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  • Lord_AsmodeusLord_Asmodeus goeticSobriquet: Here is your magical cryptic riddle-tumour: I AM A TIME MACHINERegistered User regular
    Brainleech wrote: »
    Necromancy, I feel, is an underappreciated art.

    Underappreciated, because 90% of Necromancers are assholes, and easily identifiable as such. The skulls everywhere doesn't help.

    Still I feel if the Browns win the Super Bowl I would use that money to hire a Nercomancer to raise Art Modell from his grave to wander around Cleveland for all time.

    It's difficult to find one who won't charge you an arm and a leg for it though

    If you're especially unlucky, it'll be your arm and leg

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  • Tommy2HandsTommy2Hands what is this where am i Registered User regular
    Dr. @Melding do you have any recommendation on how to handle a gun-based wizard or magic user?

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  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    dear wizard thread

    is ryu from street fighter a wizard? he can throw fireballs

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  • Tommy2HandsTommy2Hands what is this where am i Registered User regular
    edited October 2017
    dear wizard thread

    is ryu from street fighter a wizard? he can throw fireballs

    alternatively, is Goku?

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    What about Melding? Is Melding actually a wizard?
    Certainly seems to know a lot about the wizards and their arcane arts for a person who's not a wizard.

    I'm not accusing Melding of anything here.
    I'm just asking questions.

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    Well except what see317 said. That guy's always wrong.
  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    dear wizard thread

    is ryu from street fighter a wizard? he can throw fireballs

    Just because something is called a fireball doesn't make it an all-consuming inferno born of arcane power.

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    ryu absolutely uses rage magic

  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    Okay, so not every fireball is a Fireball.
    But what about Goku's Spirit Bomb attack? It literally drains some of the life force from every living creature as well as inanimate objects in a given area (up to and including the entire universe) and forges it into a single staggeringly powerful attack.
    It sounds like there's got to be necromancy or some kind of magic at play here.

    I mean, Goku even had to die and train with the king of the afterlife in order to learn the skill. There's got to be a pact or warlockery or something at play there.

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    Well except what see317 said. That guy's always wrong.
  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    ryu absolutely uses rage magic

    Hmm. I hear emotions can be used to power spells now and then, is there any truth to that, or is it just idiots burning away their own lives or something?

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  • ZonugalZonugal The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    The greatest wizard.

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  • cB557cB557 voOOP Registered User regular
    Are there any mundane ways to get around those sorts of stealth spells where they don't just turn things intangible or invisible, but make you unable to realize whatever it is is there? Like, the light reflects off it, hits your eye, your eye sends the information to your brain and your brain decides its nothing. Is that something you just have to use magic to get around?

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  • StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    dear wizard thread

    is ryu from street fighter a wizard? he can throw fireballs

    alternatively, is Goku?

    As previously established by Melding, wizards use precise combinations of verbal and material components to manipulate external forces to achieve a desired result.

    Meanwhile, both Ryu and Goku focus ki (energy naturally generated internally) to project energy attacks and enhance their own bodies. Thus, they are monks and not wizards.

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  • Tommy2HandsTommy2Hands what is this where am i Registered User regular
    I'd say spirit energy and unrelenting yelling are both verbal and (im)material components that could be quantified as external

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    also goku can use the spirit bomb which is not his own internal ki and therefore he is a wizard

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  • chrishallett83chrishallett83 Hi! Registered User regular
    I thought a good way to defeat a wizard (or witch) was to perform a binding spell ceremony on them, as shown in the documentary The Craft.

  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    edited October 2017
    Stilts wrote: »
    dear wizard thread

    is ryu from street fighter a wizard? he can throw fireballs

    alternatively, is Goku?

    As previously established by Melding, wizards use precise combinations of verbal and material components to manipulate external forces to achieve a desired result.

    Meanwhile, both Ryu and Goku focus ki (energy naturally generated internally) to project energy attacks and enhance their own bodies. Thus, they are monks and not wizards.

    spirit bomb is the energy of other people though

    goku is a necromancer

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  • StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    edited October 2017
    also goku can use the spirit bomb which is not his own internal ki and therefore he is a wizard

    While it's not his own ki, it is internal ki that others willingly release from their bodies which he then gathers

    I'd say spirit energy and unrelenting yelling are both verbal and (im)material components that could be quantified as external

    While there may occasionally be overlap with how ki and arcane energy are channeled, the source of the energy and the way you train yourself to use it is entirely different.

    Again, ki comes from within yourself and is naturally generated. Arcane energy comes from without.

    EDIT: To put it another way, ki is like a muscle, whereas arcana is like a tool.

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  • Duke 2.0Duke 2.0 Time Trash Cat Registered User regular
    How does mana play into this cosmology

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  • MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    the spirit bomb uses health energy of willing beings to be used as an attack, not a wizard spell.

    Also within the rules of Dragon Ball nothing goku does is actually magical. Goku also doesn't use books and scrolls to form his attacks.

    in no way is goku a wizard.

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  • MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    even if we count the spirit bomb as a magical attack, as it isn't being created by goku pulling energy out of the aether but instead from willing beings it would make him a witch.

  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    Goku is a monk. I mean, come on. It's ki, y'all.

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  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    Dr. @Melding do you have any recommendation on how to handle a gun-based wizard or magic user?

    a gun-based wizard is an artificer and not a wizard at all despite both of them tapping into the same source of magic

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  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    Dubh wrote: »
    Dr. Melding do you have any recommendation on how to handle a gun-based wizard or magic user?

    a gun-based wizard is an artificer and not a wizard at all despite both of them tapping into the same source of magic
    Oh my god, Gene Starwind isn't an outlaw, he's an artificer.

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  • Duke 2.0Duke 2.0 Time Trash Cat Registered User regular
    I feel this classification system is needlessly restrictive

    you could have a wizard who just really likes collecting guns

    not gonna call the wizard who collects knives a spellblade woooOOOoooOO

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  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    hello, multiclassing is still a thing

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  • MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    Duke 2.0 wrote: »
    I feel this classification system is needlessly restrictive

    you could have a wizard who just really likes collecting guns

    not gonna call the wizard who collects knives a spellblade woooOOOoooOO

    it's really just a classification of how you do magic, and not so much anything else.

  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    Dubh wrote: »
    hello, multiclassing is still a thing
    So Goku is a wizard-monk?

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  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    What's the difference between a wizard, a mage, and a magician? No this isn't a joke setup unless someone has a punchline.

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Henroid wrote: »
    What's the difference between a wizard, a mage, and a magician? No this isn't a joke setup unless someone has a punchline.

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  • MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    Henroid wrote: »
    What's the difference between a wizard, a mage, and a magician? No this isn't a joke setup unless someone has a punchline.

    Wizard is a spell caster who uses method and formula to weave magic.

    mage is a short form of magician, typically a short hand for magic user,

    magicians typically wear silly outfits and perform slide of hand for vegas audiences.

  • Tommy2HandsTommy2Hands what is this where am i Registered User regular
    Henroid wrote: »
    What's the difference between a wizard, a mage, and a magician? No this isn't a joke setup unless someone has a punchline.

    They all do tricks

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  • chrishallett83chrishallett83 Hi! Registered User regular
    Henroid wrote: »
    What's the difference between a wizard, a mage, and a magician? No this isn't a joke setup unless someone has a punchline.

    Well a magician doesn't do any like magic magic.

  • BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    Wizards come in flavors. Like business wizards


    also CIA spy wizards

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  • Darth WaiterDarth Waiter Elrond Hubbard Mordor XenuRegistered User regular
    Henroid wrote: »
    What's the difference between a wizard, a mage, and a magician? No this isn't a joke setup unless someone has a punchline.

    They all do tricks

    Illusions, Michael.

    A trick is something a whore does for money ... or candy!

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  • EndEnd Registered User regular
    there are wizards and then there are wizzards

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    Goku does not have the intelligence to be a wizard.

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  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Goku does not have the intelligence to be a wizard.
    Muffin button.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Goku does not have the intelligence to be a wizard.

    His own ignorance of limitations enables him to defy the laws that govern his world. If that's not magic I don't know what is.

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  • Duke 2.0Duke 2.0 Time Trash Cat Registered User regular
    Let us bend the very concept of definitions and truth and say a wizard 'studying' is no different than Goku 'training'

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  • MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    lotta people admitting they don't know what magic is in this thread.

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