Though if I was going through all that hassle I'd also do conduit and a full custom rack in that closet.
I wouldn't retrofit an existing house to that extreme. I also wouldn't put cameras all through the inside of my house, but that's another thing entirely. I can see wiring for ethernet in a new built, but that much of a retrofit seems a bit extreme.
Also, He cut way too many holes than he needed to in some places. If I was looking to buy a place and knew how much of the drywall was cut out with just patching to cover and not replacing I'd nope right out of that.
Though if I was going through all that hassle I'd also do conduit and a full custom rack in that closet.
I wouldn't retrofit an existing house to that extreme. I also wouldn't put cameras all through the inside of my house, but that's another thing entirely. I can see wiring for ethernet in a new built, but that much of a retrofit seems a bit extreme.
Also, He cut way too many holes than he needed to in some places. If I was looking to buy a place and knew how much of the drywall was cut out with just patching to cover and not replacing I'd nope right out of that.
The setup is neat if quite a bit overboard, but drywall holes are the least of his problems trying to sell that place. There is no way in hell 98% of people would want to deal with all of that cabling and technology. I guarantee someone would buy the place and never use most of it. Maybe keep the mag lock and rig it up with an easier way to get in, but that’s about it.
Though if I was going through all that hassle I'd also do conduit and a full custom rack in that closet.
I wouldn't retrofit an existing house to that extreme. I also wouldn't put cameras all through the inside of my house, but that's another thing entirely. I can see wiring for ethernet in a new built, but that much of a retrofit seems a bit extreme.
Also, He cut way too many holes than he needed to in some places. If I was looking to buy a place and knew how much of the drywall was cut out with just patching to cover and not replacing I'd nope right out of that.
The setup is neat if quite a bit overboard, but drywall holes are the least of his problems trying to sell that place. There is no way in hell 98% of people would want to deal with all of that cabling and technology. I guarantee someone would buy the place and never use most of it. Maybe keep the mag lock and rig it up with an easier way to get in, but that’s about it.
You'd be surprised.
If I was going to do it I'd put coax and two cat6 in each room, and like 8ish cat6 and two coax at the main entertainment center.
cat6 can be used for phone as well as data, so, you've added a lot of value to the house without people realizing it. Once the cable guys and phone people show up to a house and see what's going on they should take over unless you get one of those lazy fucks who just runs another coax and drills a hole in your floor.
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Though if I was going through all that hassle I'd also do conduit and a full custom rack in that closet.
I wouldn't retrofit an existing house to that extreme. I also wouldn't put cameras all through the inside of my house, but that's another thing entirely. I can see wiring for ethernet in a new built, but that much of a retrofit seems a bit extreme.
Also, He cut way too many holes than he needed to in some places. If I was looking to buy a place and knew how much of the drywall was cut out with just patching to cover and not replacing I'd nope right out of that.
The setup is neat if quite a bit overboard, but drywall holes are the least of his problems trying to sell that place. There is no way in hell 98% of people would want to deal with all of that cabling and technology. I guarantee someone would buy the place and never use most of it. Maybe keep the mag lock and rig it up with an easier way to get in, but that’s about it.
You'd be surprised.
If I was going to do it I'd put coax and two cat6 in each room, and like 8ish cat6 and two coax at the main entertainment center.
cat6 can be used for phone as well as data, so, you've added a lot of value to the house without people realizing it. Once the cable guys and phone people show up to a house and see what's going on they should take over unless you get one of those lazy fucks who just runs another coax and drills a hole in your floor.
99.9% of phone/cable providers out there. They never trust the wire in the house.
The ridiculousness of the house I just bought last year was horrifying. Holes through the brick and hardwood floors everywhere.
When I switched to satellite at my old place, and had them come out to this new place, I specifically told them where to terminate it outside and inside and I'd handle the rest.
Yeah that's the problem. Just have them bring it into the garage or something and do the rest yourself. Then the next time they come out they'll see it's already terminated and stuff.
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The guy who installed our cable did a great job, to be honest. I needed two new runs (one for the main living room TV and one for the cable modem) and he worked hard (and climbed on the 45 degree roof when he wasn’t supposed to by company policy) in order to hide the cable and route exactly where I needed them.
On the subject of building in cabling, sure, if I was building a new house, of course I’d run conduit with Cat6, and speaker wire for surround sound. But you’re kidding yourself if you think anyone is going to care about the technology behind using Cat6 cables for landline phones and stuff. Let alone all of the security crap that dude put in. That’s just more technology that people won’t know how to fix when it breaks. Think about the vast majority of your user population that you complain about not knowing how to use Excel or whatever, and think about that person changing a port assignment on a switch to provide PoE to a camera, or making sure DHCP doesn’t freak out and make a device inaccessible. Those people buy WiFi only Roku streaming sticks that their nephew hacked for them and don’t know that it is using BitTorrent to watch the newest movie. Ethernet means nothing to them. I can count on one hand the number of people with whom I have discussed using Powerline Ethernet adapters instead of WiFi, and only one of them actually took my suggestion to try it out. I mean, our main credo here in this thread is that users are dumb when it comes to technology.
I've used powerline adapters a handful of times and I've had about a 75‰ success rate with them. Can't wrap my head around how it works, but it does.
As for smart home tech, I think you'd be surprised what kind of energy savings you can pull off with a properly installed smart home. And with Lcd touch panels and tablet apps to run everything, you can get really dumb users to run the heck out of their systems.
I've used powerline adapters a handful of times and I've had about a 75‰ success rate with them. Can't wrap my head around how it works, but it does.
As for smart home tech, I think you'd be surprised what kind of energy savings you can pull off with a properly installed smart home. And with Lcd touch panels and tablet apps to run everything, you can get really dumb users to run the heck out of their systems.
My 4 PL Ethernet adapters work throughout my house, with the only issue being the noisy power brick for my old Xbox 360. If it is plugged in an outlet away, it interferes with the PLEs.
To be clear, I’m not saying dumb users couldn’t work with some smart home tech. I’m saying that they wouldn’t have any idea how to operate that dude’s smart home tech. And in any case, getting that stuff to where a dummy can use it will cost the dummy money because they won’t know how to fix it when it breaks.
I'm still trying to figure out what is going on in his house that he wants that many cameras. Does he have a promiscuous daughter who is prone to skipping school? Are his cats particularly malicious, and so he needs evidence when he finally confronts them?
It's a bit presumptuous of me, but the most expensive thing in his house is probably the TV, and the camera/security/network system itself.
I'm still trying to figure out what is going on in his house that he wants that many cameras. Does he have a promiscuous daughter who is prone to skipping school? Are his cats particularly malicious, and so he needs evidence when he finally confronts them?
It's a bit presumptuous of me, but the most expensive thing in his house is probably the TV, and the camera/security/network system itself.
A lot of people live in shitty-ish areas. So having multiple cameras like that there's a chance you'll catch someone's face when they're not paying attention and looking to steal shit. A lot of people will have a camera at the front door or just inside, so burglars tend to hide their face until they're in.
Also it lets you keep an eye on pets. If they have speakers you can even talk to them, and this sometimes calms dogs down from biting their way through hollow-core doors and the like.
I think he went a bit overboard. I'd have it set up with geofencing so if my phone wasn't at the house it'd record the common areas.
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I'm currently planning on building a house sometime in the next few years, and my basic requirement going in is to find a construction system which lets me have accessible conduit in every room in the house for doing pretty much exactly this. Though I'm currently trying to figure out if I can have something like a jeffries tube running down the middle of it with industrial ladders and platforms.
I don't see why you couldn't have a crawlspace or wallspace that's large enough to climb. Nothing against code for that. You might lose habitable space to put it in though.
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RandomHajileNot actually a SnatcherThe New KremlinRegistered Userregular
I have a webcam pointed at my living room, but motion detection is only turned on when we're gone for more that a couple days. We use it to check on the dog. The most interesting thing I've ever caught is our dog getting into the trash and spreading it throughout the carpeted area, which is basically just the entirety of the living room.
I'm still trying to figure out what is going on in his house that he wants that many cameras. Does he have a promiscuous daughter who is prone to skipping school? Are his cats particularly malicious, and so he needs evidence when he finally confronts them?
It's a bit presumptuous of me, but the most expensive thing in his house is probably the TV, and the camera/security/network system itself.
My in-laws are deep into construction, and well before I met my wife, they built the house I live in. It was kind of a test run for them to figure some shit out. So I have cameras all over the outside of the house and then watching some entryways from the inside. I have a sound system installed throughout the house with wall panel volume and source controls on several walls, including one by the walk-in shower. And then there's a bunch of smart-home light controls and such, but they're not labeled and there's no controller anymore, so they literally just turn the lights on and off, though they're Crestron switches so I know they're capable of a lot more.
The cameras need to be replaced with IP cameras, because this coax shit is for the birds, and several of my cameras got ruined by ESD on one side of the house, which also took out my DVR. The Cat5e run throughout the house is unlabeled, and it all just terminates to cable ends in the basement, rather than a small patch panel. So I never know what the fuck is what. And the sound system is nice but the controls are finicky and it seems you have to sometimes hit several control panels until you finally get what you want.
So I'm going to redo a lot of this stuff, and it's not necessarily because I want it, it's because it irritates me how it currently is, and what it could be, instead.
I don't see why you couldn't have a crawlspace or wallspace that's large enough to climb. Nothing against code for that. You might lose habitable space to put it in though.
I mean if I look at my current life, I trade habitable floor space to technology and cables all the time.
I don't see why you couldn't have a crawlspace or wallspace that's large enough to climb. Nothing against code for that. You might lose habitable space to put it in though.
I mean if I look at my current life, I trade habitable floor space to technology and cables all the time.
You may have some sort of requirement to add 1 or 2 internal "hatches" as a fire break, but that's probably it.
So, approximately 181 days ago, our Desktop guy switched his image to start using KMS keys for the office install instead of MAK keys without telling/asking if we actually had KMS host keys for Office set up. We didn't.
So, after the 180 day grace period for the first machines deployed with the image, all of their office activations failed today.
We hadn't been using office KMS in the past because it's mildly more stupid to set up than windows OS kms. You have to install a small tool on the KMS server that tells it that Office KMS is a thing, and the slmgr cli stuff is a bit more arduous because you have to find and specify the product ID for your version of office when inputting the key and activating. But today it was significantly less stupid than having to change the keys on every machine with that image, so that's what I spent an hour doing.
lwt1973King of ThievesSyndicationRegistered Userregular
Me in a trouble ticket for software: If I do A it does not do B.
Trouble ticket response: Try doing A as B will happen then.
Me internally: WTF? I just did that and it does not work hence the trouble ticket. Can you not read what I just described?
Me externally: No, it does not happen as I just emailed regarding that situation.
"He's sulking in his tent like Achilles! It's the Iliad?...from Homer?! READ A BOOK!!" -Handy
So, approximately 181 days ago, our Desktop guy switched his image to start using KMS keys for the office install instead of MAK keys without telling/asking if we actually had KMS host keys for Office set up. We didn't.
So, after the 180 day grace period for the first machines deployed with the image, all of their office activations failed today.
We hadn't been using office KMS in the past because it's mildly more stupid to set up than windows OS kms. You have to install a small tool on the KMS server that tells it that Office KMS is a thing, and the slmgr cli stuff is a bit more arduous because you have to find and specify the product ID for your version of office when inputting the key and activating. But today it was significantly less stupid than having to change the keys on every machine with that image, so that's what I spent an hour doing.
At least Office KMS is active at 5 installs.
Windows KMS requires 25 installs which is shitty. Maybe I want to test a new version of Windows before I roll it out to a big group?
Testing shit? Nah, who needs to test shit?
every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
pm: ok mr. customer, I will set up a call with you and one of our smes to develop a test plan
customer: I shouldn't be involved in creating a test plan! you know the equipment; you tell me what to test!
also customer, 2m later: here's all the things I think we should be testing
No I just bathe in the hypocrisy as my older coworkers drop the F-bomb nigh-constantly around me and in front of customers while this same boss does nothing about it.
Like, the parent company I work for is as blue collar as it gets. This is the decorum that our customers actually expect half the time otherwise they think our sales employees are "too corporate to talk to."
Though I have brought up before that they can't talk that way with our ISP customers. They expect a completely different kind of language use. Gets confusing, I'm sure, when a customer is a customer of both companies (typically a farmer).
So, approximately 181 days ago, our Desktop guy switched his image to start using KMS keys for the office install instead of MAK keys without telling/asking if we actually had KMS host keys for Office set up. We didn't.
So, after the 180 day grace period for the first machines deployed with the image, all of their office activations failed today.
We hadn't been using office KMS in the past because it's mildly more stupid to set up than windows OS kms. You have to install a small tool on the KMS server that tells it that Office KMS is a thing, and the slmgr cli stuff is a bit more arduous because you have to find and specify the product ID for your version of office when inputting the key and activating. But today it was significantly less stupid than having to change the keys on every machine with that image, so that's what I spent an hour doing.
At least Office KMS is active at 5 installs.
Windows KMS requires 25 installs which is shitty. Maybe I want to test a new version of Windows before I roll it out to a big group?
Yeah, old KMS is a huge pain, but AD KMS is working beautifully for me.
I never understood why the KMS tool couldn't be made to actually do KMS properly, and instead I had to learn and type out CLI commands to actually get things to work properly.
Yeah, old KMS is a huge pain, but AD KMS is working beautifully for me.
I never understood why the KMS tool couldn't be made to actually do KMS properly, and instead I had to learn and type out CLI commands to actually get things to work properly.
they actually added a gui tool that you can install as a server role in server 2012 but I know the CLI commands by heat now so I 've never really looked at it.
Yeah, old KMS is a huge pain, but AD KMS is working beautifully for me.
I never understood why the KMS tool couldn't be made to actually do KMS properly, and instead I had to learn and type out CLI commands to actually get things to work properly.
they actually added a gui tool that you can install as a server role in server 2012 but I know the CLI commands by heat now so I 've never really looked at it.
Yeah, the GUI tool was terrible.
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lwt1973King of ThievesSyndicationRegistered Userregular
No I just bathe in the hypocrisy as my older coworkers drop the F-bomb nigh-constantly around me and in front of customers while this same boss does nothing about it.
Like, the parent company I work for is as blue collar as it gets. This is the decorum that our customers actually expect half the time otherwise they think our sales employees are "too corporate to talk to."
Though I have brought up before that they can't talk that way with our ISP customers. They expect a completely different kind of language use. Gets confusing, I'm sure, when a customer is a customer of both companies (typically a farmer).
I work next to a salesman and hear him all day using the bombs constantly. I would be leery about taking my kids to see where I work because of that.
"He's sulking in his tent like Achilles! It's the Iliad?...from Homer?! READ A BOOK!!" -Handy
I really hate having task bar icons hidden, especially on servers. Is this just me? Personally I want to see them all because I want to see if something is loading that I don't recognize or if something is missing that I know should be loading.
I really hate having task bar icons hidden, especially on servers. Is this just me? Personally I want to see them all because I want to see if something is loading that I don't recognize or if something is missing that I know should be loading.
I really hate having task bar icons hidden, especially on servers. Is this just me? Personally I want to see them all because I want to see if something is loading that I don't recognize or if something is missing that I know should be loading.
There's probably a group policy for that stuff, right?
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I wouldn't retrofit an existing house to that extreme. I also wouldn't put cameras all through the inside of my house, but that's another thing entirely. I can see wiring for ethernet in a new built, but that much of a retrofit seems a bit extreme.
Also, He cut way too many holes than he needed to in some places. If I was looking to buy a place and knew how much of the drywall was cut out with just patching to cover and not replacing I'd nope right out of that.
and deer in headlights. And ladies.
This is a weird thread.
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You'd be surprised.
If I was going to do it I'd put coax and two cat6 in each room, and like 8ish cat6 and two coax at the main entertainment center.
cat6 can be used for phone as well as data, so, you've added a lot of value to the house without people realizing it. Once the cable guys and phone people show up to a house and see what's going on they should take over unless you get one of those lazy fucks who just runs another coax and drills a hole in your floor.
99.9% of phone/cable providers out there. They never trust the wire in the house.
The ridiculousness of the house I just bought last year was horrifying. Holes through the brick and hardwood floors everywhere.
When I switched to satellite at my old place, and had them come out to this new place, I specifically told them where to terminate it outside and inside and I'd handle the rest.
On the subject of building in cabling, sure, if I was building a new house, of course I’d run conduit with Cat6, and speaker wire for surround sound. But you’re kidding yourself if you think anyone is going to care about the technology behind using Cat6 cables for landline phones and stuff. Let alone all of the security crap that dude put in. That’s just more technology that people won’t know how to fix when it breaks. Think about the vast majority of your user population that you complain about not knowing how to use Excel or whatever, and think about that person changing a port assignment on a switch to provide PoE to a camera, or making sure DHCP doesn’t freak out and make a device inaccessible. Those people buy WiFi only Roku streaming sticks that their nephew hacked for them and don’t know that it is using BitTorrent to watch the newest movie. Ethernet means nothing to them. I can count on one hand the number of people with whom I have discussed using Powerline Ethernet adapters instead of WiFi, and only one of them actually took my suggestion to try it out. I mean, our main credo here in this thread is that users are dumb when it comes to technology.
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As for smart home tech, I think you'd be surprised what kind of energy savings you can pull off with a properly installed smart home. And with Lcd touch panels and tablet apps to run everything, you can get really dumb users to run the heck out of their systems.
To be clear, I’m not saying dumb users couldn’t work with some smart home tech. I’m saying that they wouldn’t have any idea how to operate that dude’s smart home tech. And in any case, getting that stuff to where a dummy can use it will cost the dummy money because they won’t know how to fix it when it breaks.
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I wish I had CAT6 in the walls tho
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
It's a bit presumptuous of me, but the most expensive thing in his house is probably the TV, and the camera/security/network system itself.
A lot of people live in shitty-ish areas. So having multiple cameras like that there's a chance you'll catch someone's face when they're not paying attention and looking to steal shit. A lot of people will have a camera at the front door or just inside, so burglars tend to hide their face until they're in.
Also it lets you keep an eye on pets. If they have speakers you can even talk to them, and this sometimes calms dogs down from biting their way through hollow-core doors and the like.
I think he went a bit overboard. I'd have it set up with geofencing so if my phone wasn't at the house it'd record the common areas.
I'm currently planning on building a house sometime in the next few years, and my basic requirement going in is to find a construction system which lets me have accessible conduit in every room in the house for doing pretty much exactly this. Though I'm currently trying to figure out if I can have something like a jeffries tube running down the middle of it with industrial ladders and platforms.
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My in-laws are deep into construction, and well before I met my wife, they built the house I live in. It was kind of a test run for them to figure some shit out. So I have cameras all over the outside of the house and then watching some entryways from the inside. I have a sound system installed throughout the house with wall panel volume and source controls on several walls, including one by the walk-in shower. And then there's a bunch of smart-home light controls and such, but they're not labeled and there's no controller anymore, so they literally just turn the lights on and off, though they're Crestron switches so I know they're capable of a lot more.
The cameras need to be replaced with IP cameras, because this coax shit is for the birds, and several of my cameras got ruined by ESD on one side of the house, which also took out my DVR. The Cat5e run throughout the house is unlabeled, and it all just terminates to cable ends in the basement, rather than a small patch panel. So I never know what the fuck is what. And the sound system is nice but the controls are finicky and it seems you have to sometimes hit several control panels until you finally get what you want.
So I'm going to redo a lot of this stuff, and it's not necessarily because I want it, it's because it irritates me how it currently is, and what it could be, instead.
I mean if I look at my current life, I trade habitable floor space to technology and cables all the time.
You may have some sort of requirement to add 1 or 2 internal "hatches" as a fire break, but that's probably it.
So, after the 180 day grace period for the first machines deployed with the image, all of their office activations failed today.
We hadn't been using office KMS in the past because it's mildly more stupid to set up than windows OS kms. You have to install a small tool on the KMS server that tells it that Office KMS is a thing, and the slmgr cli stuff is a bit more arduous because you have to find and specify the product ID for your version of office when inputting the key and activating. But today it was significantly less stupid than having to change the keys on every machine with that image, so that's what I spent an hour doing.
Trouble ticket response: Try doing A as B will happen then.
Me internally: WTF? I just did that and it does not work hence the trouble ticket. Can you not read what I just described?
Me externally: No, it does not happen as I just emailed regarding that situation.
Me externally: fuck.
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At least Office KMS is active at 5 installs.
Windows KMS requires 25 installs which is shitty. Maybe I want to test a new version of Windows before I roll it out to a big group?
Testing shit? Nah, who needs to test shit?
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Whoa man, no need to call out % and %#&, they've not been to this thread for some time.
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I've been told that I need to "Lay off the GD's"
Because one of my bosses is quite literally Ned Flanders.
customer: I shouldn't be involved in creating a test plan! you know the equipment; you tell me what to test!
also customer, 2m later: here's all the things I think we should be testing
ok
No I just bathe in the hypocrisy as my older coworkers drop the F-bomb nigh-constantly around me and in front of customers while this same boss does nothing about it.
Like, the parent company I work for is as blue collar as it gets. This is the decorum that our customers actually expect half the time otherwise they think our sales employees are "too corporate to talk to."
Though I have brought up before that they can't talk that way with our ISP customers. They expect a completely different kind of language use. Gets confusing, I'm sure, when a customer is a customer of both companies (typically a farmer).
Two words for you: Virtual Machines.
I never understood why the KMS tool couldn't be made to actually do KMS properly, and instead I had to learn and type out CLI commands to actually get things to work properly.
they actually added a gui tool that you can install as a server role in server 2012 but I know the CLI commands by heat now so I 've never really looked at it.
Yeah, the GUI tool was terrible.
I work next to a salesman and hear him all day using the bombs constantly. I would be leery about taking my kids to see where I work because of that.
well just in case you're wanting to play some games on the server while exchange or SQL is installing, have to make sure you don't lose your progress!
hide them all on Client, show them all on server.
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