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[Sysadmin] Nightmare fuel

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  • twmjrtwmjr Registered User regular
    Cog wrote: »
    Also holy shit why the fuck is this a thing on Server 2016, Microsoft

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    security measure -- who's going to install coupon apps if there's games to play?

    MugsleyTofystedeth
  • CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    wunderbar wrote: »
    Cog wrote: »
    I really hate having task bar icons hidden, especially on servers. Is this just me? Personally I want to see them all because I want to see if something is loading that I don't recognize or if something is missing that I know should be loading.

    hide them all on Client, show them all on server.

    There's some I would selectively show on client. The A/V icon, and our Kaseya icon, for example. Anything I would commonly ask a user to interact with over the phone, so I don't have to describe to them how to access the hidden icons in the system tray.

  • CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    Cog wrote: »
    I really hate having task bar icons hidden, especially on servers. Is this just me? Personally I want to see them all because I want to see if something is loading that I don't recognize or if something is missing that I know should be loading.
    There's probably a group policy for that stuff, right?

    You would think so, but there actually isn't. You can enable/disable the notification area as a whole, but you can't control the behavior of icons within it via GPO. Control of the tray is in the hands of the user and that's fucking dumb.

  • Capt HowdyCapt Howdy Registered User regular
    edited April 2018
    So are people still setting up mirror drives when configuring a server with 2012? I thought that was old hat?

    EDIT - I mean mirroring the main drive when we plan on setting up six drives for RAID.

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  • RandomHajileRandomHajile Not actually a Snatcher The New KremlinRegistered User regular
    Cog wrote: »
    Cog wrote: »
    I really hate having task bar icons hidden, especially on servers. Is this just me? Personally I want to see them all because I want to see if something is loading that I don't recognize or if something is missing that I know should be loading.
    There's probably a group policy for that stuff, right?

    You would think so, but there actually isn't. You can enable/disable the notification area as a whole, but you can't control the behavior of icons within it via GPO. Control of the tray is in the hands of the user and that's fucking dumb.
    Weird. Not even a registry hack?

  • jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    Very small client left today. I actually had to leave the room so I wouldn't laugh at their "systems analyst" solution.

    Okay, so, we had about 10 signs with them. They said they wanted to bump up security on these literal dead-end dumb boxes that were not a vector for an attack, so they:

    Joined all of their replacements to the domain
    Managing them through RDP so they can work on them remotely, so now they can be accessed from the outside
    Are currently sharing them with the servers so the file systems are visible

    I snorted a bit when I heard this.

    You just opened your entire domain up to the outside world. Good luck.

  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Like are they digital signs or something? If they have their own PC why not write your own software/api to handle issuing commands and keep them dumb boxes?

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Like are they digital signs or something? If they have their own PC why not write your own software/api to handle issuing commands and keep them dumb boxes?

    That's how we did it. They were dumb boxes completely locked down except for 1 website, and it wasn't even HTTP, and it didn't even have to be online once the content and templates are loaded.

    They just opened up 10 more doors to their entire domain.

  • jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    They asked us why they couldn't join the boxes to their domain.

    We said they could, but it's dumb and unnecessary and we won't do it for them because why the hell would you?

    So they hired a "systems analyst" who issued out the dumbest possible solution.

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    It almost sounds like they made it up because that's what they wanted to do anyways.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
    jungleroomx
  • jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    It almost sounds like they made it up because that's what they wanted to do anyways.

    Probably.

    There was a lot of justification for it but it's probably cheaper for them in the long run.

    But I don't envy whoever might get the stank if a security issue happens due to the this.

  • CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    Cog wrote: »
    Cog wrote: »
    I really hate having task bar icons hidden, especially on servers. Is this just me? Personally I want to see them all because I want to see if something is loading that I don't recognize or if something is missing that I know should be loading.
    There's probably a group policy for that stuff, right?

    You would think so, but there actually isn't. You can enable/disable the notification area as a whole, but you can't control the behavior of icons within it via GPO. Control of the tray is in the hands of the user and that's fucking dumb.
    Weird. Not even a registry hack?

    In Win7 you could add an EnableAutoTray DWORD set to 0 (Disable) to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer. That would enforce show all icons. I don't know if that applies to Win10 or not.

  • CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    They asked us why they couldn't join the boxes to their domain.

    We said they could, but it's dumb and unnecessary and we won't do it for them because why the hell would you?

    So they hired a "systems analyst" who issued out the dumbest possible solution.

    I wouldn't put a vendor's device on my domain unless I absolutely had to and even then I would piss and moan about it the whole time and make sure everyone knew what a dumb fucking idea I thought it was.

  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    I would refuse and risk getting fired if it was legit asking to join my domain.

    But I think this company had a domain but wanted to add these remote devices to it.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
    jungleroomx
  • MvrckMvrck Dwarven MountainhomeRegistered User regular
    So, is there a good no-lag solution to remote viewing or stream sharing a screen from a Mac to a Windows desktop? Right now for our streaming setup at work, I'm using VNC viewer to remote into the Mac presentation laptop and capturing the inner window of the powerpoint presentations in OBS.

    However, none of the VNC clients we've tried can handle videos within powerpoint. They are all stuttering and laggy every time. Usually it's not a huge deal, but at this seminar today, it feels like every presenter has at least 3 or 4 video clips and it's kinda obvious that it's a problem on the live stream. Physical cable is not an option in 95% of our use cases, so I need a mostly software solution I think.

    Though I have been toying with the idea of maybe plugging a Chromecast into one desktop capture cards and seeing if we could cast from the Mac laptop that way. Anything similar out there?

  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    I haven't found a good solution yet mvrck.

    I wanted something like an RDP sever so I could use the windows RDP client but that didn't ever pan out for me. The one company I found that made that apparently had to stop selling it?

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    https://www.nuords.com/

    this was the closest I could find

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    I've heard positive things about Splashtop.

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    wunderbar wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    wunderbar wrote: »
    So, approximately 181 days ago, our Desktop guy switched his image to start using KMS keys for the office install instead of MAK keys without telling/asking if we actually had KMS host keys for Office set up. We didn't.

    So, after the 180 day grace period for the first machines deployed with the image, all of their office activations failed today.

    We hadn't been using office KMS in the past because it's mildly more stupid to set up than windows OS kms. You have to install a small tool on the KMS server that tells it that Office KMS is a thing, and the slmgr cli stuff is a bit more arduous because you have to find and specify the product ID for your version of office when inputting the key and activating. But today it was significantly less stupid than having to change the keys on every machine with that image, so that's what I spent an hour doing.

    At least Office KMS is active at 5 installs.

    Windows KMS requires 25 installs which is shitty. Maybe I want to test a new version of Windows before I roll it out to a big group?

    Testing shit? Nah, who needs to test shit?

    Two words for you: Virtual Machines.

    Yes, I know.

    Leaving 25 VMs online for no other purpose than to keep KMS from shitting itself is dumb!

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Cog wrote: »
    I've heard positive things about Splashtop.

    The problem is, teamviewer, screenconnect, and splashtop are all based on VNC's JPEG/Bitmap transfer code on some level instead of RDP's actual remote display codec stuff.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
    Mvrck
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    edited April 2018
    Capt Howdy wrote: »
    So are people still setting up mirror drives when configuring a server with 2012? I thought that was old hat?

    EDIT - I mean mirroring the main drive when we plan on setting up six drives for RAID.

    Putting software RAID on top of hardware RAID is dumb.

    I see that every once in a blue moon and I always assume it's because the OS was cloned or something.

    Doing that on a new build is pointless.

    Feral on
    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
    Capt Howdy
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    bowen wrote: »
    Like are they digital signs or something? If they have their own PC why not write your own software/api to handle issuing commands and keep them dumb boxes?

    That's how we did it. They were dumb boxes completely locked down except for 1 website, and it wasn't even HTTP, and it didn't even have to be online once the content and templates are loaded.

    They just opened up 10 more doors to their entire domain.

    Are these boxes on their internal production LAN?

    Or are they VLAN segmented or on separate Internet connections or something like that?

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    Like are they digital signs or something? If they have their own PC why not write your own software/api to handle issuing commands and keep them dumb boxes?

    That's how we did it. They were dumb boxes completely locked down except for 1 website, and it wasn't even HTTP, and it didn't even have to be online once the content and templates are loaded.

    They just opened up 10 more doors to their entire domain.

    Are these boxes on their internal production LAN?

    Or are they VLAN segmented or on separate Internet connections or something like that?

    I just assumed they're WAP devices with little cellphone cards or something.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
    jungleroomx
  • Capt HowdyCapt Howdy Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    Capt Howdy wrote: »
    So are people still setting up mirror drives when configuring a server with 2012? I thought that was old hat?

    EDIT - I mean mirroring the main drive when we plan on setting up six drives for RAID.

    Putting software RAID on top of hardware RAID is dumb.

    I see that every once in a blue moon and I always assume it's because the OS was cloned or something.

    Doing that on a new build is pointless.

    That's what I thought. The guy kept saying we need to mirror the C:, and all I could think is WHY? We're about to have 6 drives running in RAID. I haven't dealt with servers in a decade, so I need to research before I install Server 2012 next week on our new server.

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    I'd probably say "it is mirrored. It's mirrored in hardware" and see how he reacts to that

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Tell them it's one of those "new invisible mirrors controlled by the raid card" and make him thing I know magic.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • That_GuyThat_Guy I don't wanna be that guy Registered User regular
    Capt Howdy wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Capt Howdy wrote: »
    So are people still setting up mirror drives when configuring a server with 2012? I thought that was old hat?

    EDIT - I mean mirroring the main drive when we plan on setting up six drives for RAID.

    Putting software RAID on top of hardware RAID is dumb.

    I see that every once in a blue moon and I always assume it's because the OS was cloned or something.

    Doing that on a new build is pointless.

    That's what I thought. The guy kept saying we need to mirror the C:, and all I could think is WHY? We're about to have 6 drives running in RAID. I haven't dealt with servers in a decade, so I need to research before I install Server 2012 next week on our new server.

    I typically recommend having your basic servers in RAID 10, aka1+0, aka a stripe of mirrors. I usually do 5 drives so we can keep one as a hot spare.

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  • Capt HowdyCapt Howdy Registered User regular
    That_Guy wrote: »
    Capt Howdy wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Capt Howdy wrote: »
    So are people still setting up mirror drives when configuring a server with 2012? I thought that was old hat?

    EDIT - I mean mirroring the main drive when we plan on setting up six drives for RAID.

    Putting software RAID on top of hardware RAID is dumb.

    I see that every once in a blue moon and I always assume it's because the OS was cloned or something.

    Doing that on a new build is pointless.

    That's what I thought. The guy kept saying we need to mirror the C:, and all I could think is WHY? We're about to have 6 drives running in RAID. I haven't dealt with servers in a decade, so I need to research before I install Server 2012 next week on our new server.

    I typically recommend having your basic servers in RAID 10, aka1+0, aka a stripe of mirrors. I usually do 5 drives so we can keep one as a hot spare.

    I don't know shit about the current setup, or what they ordered for the new setup. My understanding is they have six drives for raid, and two extras for swapping. I haven't physically seen any of the drives, or the server 2012 disk. The server is real, though. I've touched it. It exists.

    I just found out the guy I replaced was a fucking legend around the base. In a very bad way. This dunce had security come up here physically removing their servers and computers because he was running shit that should never have been run. He then tried to physically stop security from doing their jobs because "they don't know what they are talking about, and he can run whatever he wants". I walked into a bit of a shit show, is what I'm saying. Luckily he is gone and I get to start from scratch.

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  • MvrckMvrck Dwarven MountainhomeRegistered User regular
    edited April 2018
    bowen wrote: »
    Cog wrote: »
    I've heard positive things about Splashtop.

    The problem is, teamviewer, screenconnect, and splashtop are all based on VNC's JPEG/Bitmap transfer code on some level instead of RDP's actual remote display codec stuff.

    Yeah. I've kinda contemplated just setting up an RTMP server on the streaming machine with Nginx. I did something similar a long, long time ago for 4 way split screen streaming for MWO to mixed results.

    That was on a first gen i5, so maybe hardware and just streaming in general has advanced enough that it can handle it a little better, but there were definitely hitching issues with that as well. Also I got really sad realizing that was five years ago.

    Edit: Huh, apparently you can't embed twitch videos, it defaults to the live channel. Weird. twitch.tv/videos/49560366

    Mvrck on
  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    yeah if you just need to share the screen with no lag, screencasting with discord/twitch/youtube is probably better than rdp/vnc stuff.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • MvrckMvrck Dwarven MountainhomeRegistered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    yeah if you just need to share the screen with no lag, screencasting with discord/twitch/youtube is probably better than rdp/vnc stuff.

    Well the main problem is getting it from the presentation machine to our streaming setup up in the production booth. We run multiple cameras and some other processing stuff, plus an active delay in case a doctor gets dumb and breaks HIPAA while we are live.

    Presentation machine video out has to go into the theater system, and we pretty much never have access to a video out from the theater system. So we remote in with VNC viewer right now, then I capture that window within an OBS scene, but the remote session can't handle in powerpoint video at all.

    Guess I'll try the Chromecast first and see how that goes (if it can even be read as a video source). Or maybe Steamlink...

  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Mvrck wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    yeah if you just need to share the screen with no lag, screencasting with discord/twitch/youtube is probably better than rdp/vnc stuff.

    Well the main problem is getting it from the presentation machine to our streaming setup up in the production booth. We run multiple cameras and some other processing stuff, plus an active delay in case a doctor gets dumb and breaks HIPAA while we are live.

    Presentation machine video out has to go into the theater system, and we pretty much never have access to a video out from the theater system. So we remote in with VNC viewer right now, then I capture that window within an OBS scene, but the remote session can't handle in powerpoint video at all.

    Guess I'll try the Chromecast first and see how that goes (if it can even be read as a video source). Or maybe Steamlink...

    that sounds like a dumb setup, I'm sorry

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    Capt Howdy wrote: »
    That_Guy wrote: »
    Capt Howdy wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Capt Howdy wrote: »
    So are people still setting up mirror drives when configuring a server with 2012? I thought that was old hat?

    EDIT - I mean mirroring the main drive when we plan on setting up six drives for RAID.

    Putting software RAID on top of hardware RAID is dumb.

    I see that every once in a blue moon and I always assume it's because the OS was cloned or something.

    Doing that on a new build is pointless.

    That's what I thought. The guy kept saying we need to mirror the C:, and all I could think is WHY? We're about to have 6 drives running in RAID. I haven't dealt with servers in a decade, so I need to research before I install Server 2012 next week on our new server.

    I typically recommend having your basic servers in RAID 10, aka1+0, aka a stripe of mirrors. I usually do 5 drives so we can keep one as a hot spare.

    I don't know shit about the current setup, or what they ordered for the new setup. My understanding is they have six drives for raid, and two extras for swapping. I haven't physically seen any of the drives, or the server 2012 disk. The server is real, though. I've touched it. It exists.

    I just found out the guy I replaced was a fucking legend around the base. In a very bad way. This dunce had security come up here physically removing their servers and computers because he was running shit that should never have been run. He then tried to physically stop security from doing their jobs because "they don't know what they are talking about, and he can run whatever he wants". I walked into a bit of a shit show, is what I'm saying. Luckily he is gone and I get to start from scratch.

    if I'm dealing with a physical server that actually has storage needs nowadays, I have the Windows install on a couple small-ish drives in RAID1, then the data drives on the remainder of the drives in a RAID 5

    So like, OS on a couple of 150GB drives, then a bunch of other disks, say 600GB each or so for data.

    That's if I'm going with physical servers. Most of my new stuff lives on my hypervisor with the 14TB disk pool.

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    RAID5 is old-school and everything I've read in the last 5 years or so suggest that it should no longer be used.

    The performance impact is too high and you're dead if more than one drive fails.

    The usual recommendations I see are:

    RAID10 if possible
    RAID1 for small servers

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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  • MvrckMvrck Dwarven MountainhomeRegistered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Mvrck wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    yeah if you just need to share the screen with no lag, screencasting with discord/twitch/youtube is probably better than rdp/vnc stuff.

    Well the main problem is getting it from the presentation machine to our streaming setup up in the production booth. We run multiple cameras and some other processing stuff, plus an active delay in case a doctor gets dumb and breaks HIPAA while we are live.

    Presentation machine video out has to go into the theater system, and we pretty much never have access to a video out from the theater system. So we remote in with VNC viewer right now, then I capture that window within an OBS scene, but the remote session can't handle in powerpoint video at all.

    Guess I'll try the Chromecast first and see how that goes (if it can even be read as a video source). Or maybe Steamlink...

    that sounds like a dumb setup, I'm sorry

    How so?

    Faculty flip their shit if we don't have a nice comfortable Macbook up front for them, and all of the lecture halls we work out of have closed AV systems that we can only get audio out of. It's a fairly robust budget video production setup that saves me many, many hours of editing and composition.

    Hell, before I took over a couple years ago, the university TV's solution was to point a third camera at the screen and go back in and hand time editing in the slides for the final video composition. Which obviously doesn't work if you're trying to live stream the event for your faculty at a half dozen hospitals.

  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Yeah the parity bullshit means if 2 out of your 5 drives fail you're dead in the water.

    At least with Raid1 if you've got 2 out of 5 drives dead, one of them has already taken over as the hotspare most likely.

    And worst case recovering data is much easier as there's a good chance you can get something out of them, instead of weird random bits of nonsense scattered about that only the raid controller can make sense of.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • ArcSynArcSyn Registered User regular
    Mvrck wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    Mvrck wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    yeah if you just need to share the screen with no lag, screencasting with discord/twitch/youtube is probably better than rdp/vnc stuff.

    Well the main problem is getting it from the presentation machine to our streaming setup up in the production booth. We run multiple cameras and some other processing stuff, plus an active delay in case a doctor gets dumb and breaks HIPAA while we are live.

    Presentation machine video out has to go into the theater system, and we pretty much never have access to a video out from the theater system. So we remote in with VNC viewer right now, then I capture that window within an OBS scene, but the remote session can't handle in powerpoint video at all.

    Guess I'll try the Chromecast first and see how that goes (if it can even be read as a video source). Or maybe Steamlink...

    that sounds like a dumb setup, I'm sorry

    How so?

    Faculty flip their shit if we don't have a nice comfortable Macbook up front for them, and all of the lecture halls we work out of have closed AV systems that we can only get audio out of. It's a fairly robust budget video production setup that saves me many, many hours of editing and composition.

    Hell, before I took over a couple years ago, the university TV's solution was to point a third camera at the screen and go back in and hand time editing in the slides for the final video composition. Which obviously doesn't work if you're trying to live stream the event for your faculty at a half dozen hospitals.

    I don't know if I'm entirely understanding your situation, but I would probably suggest switch to capturing the display output from display port or something, rather than remote desktop, or reverse the remote connection so they are logging into the box at the broadcasting point.

    Also stop using a Mac if Windows would work better. I never understood trying to shoehorn a Mac "for the users" if they are going to cause nightmares for support staff.

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  • ArcSynArcSyn Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Yeah the parity bullshit means if 2 out of your 5 drives fail you're dead in the water.

    At least with Raid1 if you've got 2 out of 5 drives dead, one of them has already taken over as the hotspare most likely.

    And worst case recovering data is much easier as there's a good chance you can get something out of them, instead of weird random bits of nonsense scattered about that only the raid controller can make sense of.

    I run RAID5 still, but usually for large data arrays where I need space and RAID10 would be too costly, and with a hot spare so I can technically lose two drives so long as it had time to recover to the spare before the second dies. So far it has been ok and I've gotten drives replaced in time.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    edited April 2018
    Feral wrote: »
    RAID5 is old-school and everything I've read in the last 5 years or so suggest that it should no longer be used.

    The performance impact is too high and you're dead if more than one drive fails.

    The usual recommendations I see are:

    RAID10 if possible
    RAID1 for small servers

    RAID5 isn't great if your disks are big and there are a lot of them. In a 4-5 disk array with smaller disks, (600GB or less) I think RAID5 is still fine. If you're talking bigger arrays, both in size of disk and number of disks, yea I don't do raid 5 either.

    I've actually taken a liking to RAID6 with a hotspare. you can technically lose 3 drives in short order and still survive it without the same storage sacrifice you have to make in a RAID10

    EDIT: also to clarify that's on arrays where I/O speed isn't super important.

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  • MvrckMvrck Dwarven MountainhomeRegistered User regular
    ArcSyn wrote: »
    Mvrck wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    Mvrck wrote: »
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    yeah if you just need to share the screen with no lag, screencasting with discord/twitch/youtube is probably better than rdp/vnc stuff.

    Well the main problem is getting it from the presentation machine to our streaming setup up in the production booth. We run multiple cameras and some other processing stuff, plus an active delay in case a doctor gets dumb and breaks HIPAA while we are live.

    Presentation machine video out has to go into the theater system, and we pretty much never have access to a video out from the theater system. So we remote in with VNC viewer right now, then I capture that window within an OBS scene, but the remote session can't handle in powerpoint video at all.

    Guess I'll try the Chromecast first and see how that goes (if it can even be read as a video source). Or maybe Steamlink...

    that sounds like a dumb setup, I'm sorry

    How so?

    Faculty flip their shit if we don't have a nice comfortable Macbook up front for them, and all of the lecture halls we work out of have closed AV systems that we can only get audio out of. It's a fairly robust budget video production setup that saves me many, many hours of editing and composition.

    Hell, before I took over a couple years ago, the university TV's solution was to point a third camera at the screen and go back in and hand time editing in the slides for the final video composition. Which obviously doesn't work if you're trying to live stream the event for your faculty at a half dozen hospitals.

    I don't know if I'm entirely understanding your situation, but I would probably suggest switch to capturing the display output from display port or something, rather than remote desktop, or reverse the remote connection so they are logging into the box at the broadcasting point.



    Sorry, I'll lay it out more:
    1) Presentation Laptop up at the podium of the lecture hall. This is piped into the lecture hall AV system, which gets displayed on the projector up on the big screen. Laptop to Projector is a closed line from the podium with no other outputs in the AV system.

    2) Streaming Desktop in the production booth at the back of the lecture hall. This computer has 3 video capture cards for our Podium, Wide Shot, and Q&A cameras. We run either OBS, X-Split or a combination depending on whether we are doing local recording, youtube streaming, a point to point shoot
    with remote Q/A, or a combination.

    The goal is to get a capture of the presentation from (1) to (2) in real time, and without videos within the presentations lagging like they currently do.
    Also stop using a Mac if Windows would work better. I never understood trying to shoehorn a Mac "for the users" if they are going to cause nightmares for support staff.

    I am one of a couple guys in a tech department that kinda has to fight to justify it's existence each year, and one of our major bargaining chips is we let them use Macs unlike the main Medical IT. They are doctors, most just want everything to work how they imagine it should and have no patience for actual technical restrictions.

    I think I've shared this story before, but I've legit had one of them ask me about something with image matching and recognition to compare surgery photos and told him that I honestly had no idea how to go about it and was probably far beyond our resources, his reply was "Well Google does it" as if just pointing out that they did it meant I should be able to conjure it up for him.

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