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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
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    Randy ButternubbsRandy Butternubbs Registered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »

    An awesome isn't enough, this is pure gold. I must preserve this for future generations.

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    Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    in what universe is the democratic party considering a pro life direction

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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    edited November 2017
    Knight_ wrote: »
    in what universe is the democratic party considering a pro life direction

    It stems from the DNC saying, "Well, it's fine if some Democrats don't support abortion."

    Basically, that it's okay for some of their members to abandon what many assumed were basic party tentpoles for the sake of winning elections in redder districts. It's emblematic of the worry myself and many other leftists had that one of the more significant effects of Trump winning would mean the Democrats shifting more toward the center in order to court moderate Republican votes rather than shifting leftward in order to excite and mobilize the people who don't really have a party to identify with.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Basically, the DNC hasn't actually changed their stance whatsoever, but progressives freaked out because they thought the DNC was more progressive than it was.

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    LalaboxLalabox Registered User regular
    edited November 2017
    A few Democratic Socialists have won seats in Minnesota, Ohio, New York and Pennsylvania

    edit: sorry, this is wrong.

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Lalabox wrote: »
    A few Democratic Socialists have won seats in Minnesota, Ohio, New York and Pennsylvania

    O.o I honestly wasn't aware anywhere in the state had special elections going? I'd only heard of referendums at most in the cities and such.

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    LalaboxLalabox Registered User regular
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Lalabox wrote: »
    A few Democratic Socialists have won seats in Minnesota, Ohio, New York and Pennsylvania

    O.o I honestly wasn't aware anywhere in the state had special elections going? I'd only heard of referendums at most in the cities and such.

    ah yep sorry i should stop just going off tweets, it was a DSA member for a school board.

    that's entirely my bad for not checking the context.

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    WeaverWeaver Who are you? What do you want?Registered User regular
    Anyone else expecting all the dem/left gains today to be blamed on Hillary sponsored voter fraud?

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    DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    Weaver wrote: »
    Anyone else expecting all the dem/left gains today to be blamed on Hillary sponsored voter fraud?

    oh that's a given

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    Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    running candidates who might win in deep red districts is just the 50 state strategy, and it's not like a bernie sanders alike is going to win an election for senator of alabama, a state trump carried by 28 points, but doug jones might.

    as long as they're willing to go to the mat when it matters, i'm fine with giving moderates some cover when it doesn't. i understand if you're not, but i don't think thats the same thing as the national party is moving toward the center.

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Man I hope 2018 looks like today.

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    Weaver wrote: »
    Anyone else expecting all the dem/left gains today to be blamed on Hillary sponsored voter fraud?

    oh that's ridiculous

    obviously it was Soros

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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Weaver wrote: »
    Anyone else expecting all the dem/left gains today to be blamed on Hillary sponsored voter fraud?

    oh that's ridiculous

    obviously it was Soros

    Soros paid for the luxury coaches Hillary used to bus in all the immigrant murderers they stuffed the polling booths with.

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    DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    the antifa supersoldiers scared away all the god fearing christians away from the polls

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    -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    Do alabamans hate free healthcare

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    -Tal wrote: »
    Do alabamans hate free healthcare

    Please don't make me answer that question.

    Oh God, being in Alabama is hellish wrt healthcare.

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    DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    edited November 2017
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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    *sigh*

    His office is going to get so much "islams get out!" hate mail...

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    The current narrative on Virginia from the GOP/Trump is that Gillespie didn't embrace Trump, and that's why he lost. And that's one that they'll want to hammer the rest of the GOP with, so I expect that'll be more important for them to push than voter fraud, in this case.

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    Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    yes please gop please tie yourself closer to the burning anchor made entirely of garbage that is donald j trump.

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    Romanian My EscutcheonRomanian My Escutcheon Two of Forks Registered User regular
    Tonight's been a good night, but I desperately hope we can carry this through to the midterms next year.

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    DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    embracing trump seems like a surefire way NOT to win

    last I heard, he's doing horrible with his approval numbers - and I can't imagine it getting any better

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    It should be noted that before this election, Gillespie was absolutely a corporatist Republican. He was a major supporter of immigration reform. And then he saw what Happened to Cantor, and the rise of Trump, and he felt the winds blowin' towards nativism and racism. Now, he didn't embrace Trump personally (he tried to say as little about him as possible), but he did campaign with Pence and built a Trump style campaign. So the candidates are all going to do their best to back away from Trump, and Trump is going to do everything he can to make them more Trumpy. It'll be grand!

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    -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    They gotta get more racist

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    Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    Dubh wrote: »

    God that is way too close to my name.

    It's like the sikh version of John or something

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    well, Trump's whole thing is that he's the important one, and they can't alienate his base if they hope to win, so the GOP can't really go "okay this election just go out there and say FUCK TRUMP" if you wanna win, so candidates that want party funding aren't going to go "well actually I think donald trump is bad," and also a huge chunk of them agree with him anyways

    as far as the midterms go...tonight was incredibly promising, but a lot of the problems that cost the democrats faced in 2016 still exist, and many of them will probably get worse. but tonight definitely went way better than anyone could have reasonably hoped for, and hopefully the democrats can look at some of the reasons why that happened and apply those lessons elsewhere.

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    Romanian My EscutcheonRomanian My Escutcheon Two of Forks Registered User regular
    Dubh wrote: »
    embracing trump seems like a surefire way NOT to win

    last I heard, he's doing horrible with his approval numbers - and I can't imagine it getting any better

    The alternative is decrying Trump and running as a candidate on the outside of the typical party line of bullshit that the GOP tries to spin.

    And considering how he attacked a losing Republican governor tonight for "not embracing him," it's all but certain that Trump and establishment Republicans would do everything in their power to sabotage that candidate.

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    JarsJars Registered User regular
    getting in on the state level is a good way to show national politicians that this is an important voting bloc

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    Crippl3Crippl3 oh noRegistered User regular
    The Constitutional Convention referendum in New York failed 83-16
    l o l

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    getting in on the state level is also incredibly important because controlling states is how the GOP is able to gerrymander the shit out of states and pass incredibly restrictive voting laws, and, you know, all sorts of other important shit for people who live in those states

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    KetBraKetBra Dressed Ridiculously Registered User regular
    edited November 2017
    Knight_ wrote: »
    yes please gop please tie yourself closer to the burning anchor made entirely of garbage that is donald j trump.

    I get the sentiment, but also this lead to Trump as President and your country's institutions, foreign reputation, and politics in general in shambles so...

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    Desert LeviathanDesert Leviathan Registered User regular
    So my shitbag Mayor got upgraded to be my shitbag Congressman today. You may be saying, at least Jason Chaffetz is gone, can this new guy really be worse? Ha ha! Keep an eye on John Fucking Curtis, and you will be amazed.

    On the positive side, that means I've now told two of Utah's three representatives in person to kiss my ass. This wasn't even a goal originally, but now I guess I've got to keep tabs on Mia Love's next town hall or whatever and complete the hat trick.

    Realizing lately that I don't really trust or respect basically any of the moderators here. So, good luck with life, friends! Hit me up on Twitter @DesertLeviathan
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    DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    Dubh wrote: »
    embracing trump seems like a surefire way NOT to win

    last I heard, he's doing horrible with his approval numbers - and I can't imagine it getting any better

    The alternative is decrying Trump and running as a candidate on the outside of the typical party line of bullshit that the GOP tries to spin.

    And considering how he attacked a losing Republican governor tonight for "not embracing him," it's all but certain that Trump and establishment Republicans would do everything in their power to sabotage that candidate.

    that reminds me of

    http://www.clickhole.com/clickventure/youve-been-elected-congress-can-you-pass-even-one--1146#1,

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    AnzekayAnzekay Registered User regular
    Dubh wrote: »
    Dubh wrote: »
    embracing trump seems like a surefire way NOT to win

    last I heard, he's doing horrible with his approval numbers - and I can't imagine it getting any better

    The alternative is decrying Trump and running as a candidate on the outside of the typical party line of bullshit that the GOP tries to spin.

    And considering how he attacked a losing Republican governor tonight for "not embracing him," it's all but certain that Trump and establishment Republicans would do everything in their power to sabotage that candidate.

    that reminds me of

    http://www.clickhole.com/clickventure/youve-been-elected-congress-can-you-pass-even-one--1146#1,

    I still don't understand how anything gets done in the US congress

    oh right

    nothing does most of the time

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    JarsJars Registered User regular
    getting in on the state level is also incredibly important because controlling states is how the GOP is able to gerrymander the shit out of states and pass incredibly restrictive voting laws, and, you know, all sorts of other important shit for people who live in those states

    I was referencing more than people getting elected are specifically social democrats rather than just democrats

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    getting in on the state level is also incredibly important because controlling states is how the GOP is able to gerrymander the shit out of states and pass incredibly restrictive voting laws, and, you know, all sorts of other important shit for people who live in those states

    Shit, my election today was entirely for the county I'm in only. Two democrats won city council spots, but the last democrat up for election lost by 55 votes.

    AND we passed two 100 million dollar bond packages for the city which will bring great improvements.

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    DysDys how am I even using this gun Registered User regular
    In a perfect example of why every vote absolutely matters, the race for Town Supervisor where I live is an exact tie.

    I'll be honest, I don't know what happens now! A recount, maybe?

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    Dubh wrote: »
    embracing trump seems like a surefire way NOT to win

    last I heard, he's doing horrible with his approval numbers - and I can't imagine it getting any better

    His local approval numbers are an important factor.

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    MayabirdMayabird Pecking at the keyboardRegistered User regular
    This was a couple months ago, but there was a special election in a tiny Iowa town where no one voted. Not even the poll workers (though to be fair to them, they weren't from the town.) The mayor and city council, who should have opinions about this since it's about them, didn't even vote. If one single person had shown up, that one person would've made the decision for the town.

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