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College Football 2018: Fuck Baylor, Michigan State, and Ohio State

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  • cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    like let's compare that to Georgia's injury list:

    Third String Tight End
    1 Starting inside Linebacker


    and the injuries they sustained during the game came back in.

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  • Butler For Life #1Butler For Life #1 Twinning is WinningRegistered User regular
    Every team deals with injuries. Yes, Alabama dealt with an unusual amount.

    They also were gifted a spot in the playoffs despite not winning their division and playing Mercer in the penultimate week of the season when other conferences were playing real games.

    Be happy and proud, but cut the underdog schtick. You're in the middle of a dynasty.

  • OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    Alabama played one less game than every other playoff team

  • OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    Also it's hard for me to buy that injuries even mattered when y'all just won the natty with a true freshman QB and true freshman WR, both blue-chips

    Injuries don't affect you nearly as much as it affects -- fuck -- even Texas right now. We had 2 scholarship QBs, both of whom got injured at some point this season, and 11 completely different OLine configurations due to injuries.

  • Blackhawk1313Blackhawk1313 Demon Hunter for Hire Time RiftRegistered User regular
  • MaximumMaximum Registered User regular
    Alabama can overcome injuries because their 3rd and 4th string guys are still blue chippers.

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    UCF is the champion in my heart.

    That's what really matters.

  • kilroydoskilroydos Registered User regular
    Two, Mercer is not a game.

    To be fair, as an Oklahoma fan, UTEP wasn't a game this year. I still wish every conference played 9 conference games, though. You can have your Mercer if you replace Fresno State with Georgia or Florida, for example.

  • Fleur de AlysFleur de Alys Biohacker Registered User regular
    Every team deals with injuries. Yes, Alabama dealt with an unusual amount.

    They also were gifted a spot in the playoffs despite not winning their division and playing Mercer in the penultimate week of the season when other conferences were playing real games.

    Be happy and proud, but cut the underdog schtick. You're in the middle of a dynasty.
    I don't think anyone's trying to play an underdog card. That's only one kind of adversity.

    The only way Alabama was the "underdog" was that they entered the playoffs ranked 4th, and lots of people said they didn't deserve to get in at all. But then they were favored in both games, so even that doesn't really hold up.

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  • cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    The Sauce wrote: »
    Every team deals with injuries. Yes, Alabama dealt with an unusual amount.

    They also were gifted a spot in the playoffs despite not winning their division and playing Mercer in the penultimate week of the season when other conferences were playing real games.

    Be happy and proud, but cut the underdog schtick. You're in the middle of a dynasty.
    I don't think anyone's trying to play an underdog card. That's only one kind of adversity.

    The only way Alabama was the "underdog" was that they entered the playoffs ranked 4th, and lots of people said they didn't deserve to get in at all. But then they were favored in both games, so even that doesn't really hold up.

    yeah, saying something was difficult does not make you an underdog.

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  • crwthcrwth THAT'S IT Registered User regular
    Sorce wrote: »
    Final AP Top 25 is out.
    1. Alabama (57)
    2. Georgia
    3. Oklahoma
    4. Clemson
    5. Ohio State
    6. UCF (4)
    7. Wisconsin
    8. Penn State
    9. TCU
    10. Auburn
    11. Notre Dame
    12. USC
    13. Miami
    14. Oklahoma State
    15. Michigan State
    16. Washington
    17. Northwestern
    18. LSU
    19. Mississippi State
    20. Stanford
    21. USF
    22. Boise State
    23. North Carolina State
    24. Virginia Tech
    25. Memphis

    Link.
    three florida teams and no sight of uf or fsu yowza

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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    UCF not being at least #3 is buuuuuulshit

  • Fleur de AlysFleur de Alys Biohacker Registered User regular
    #4 would be a really good slot for them IMO, given how close the games were that involved Alabama, Georgia, and Oklahoma.

    UCF has a great argument for jumping ahead of Clemson. Ohio State is more murky; they seemed intent this year on ensuring that any final ranking for them would be questionable, high or low.

    (also, I'm still okay with co-champions UCF)

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  • ani_game_bumani_game_bum Optimistic, Rule-Breaking Nice Guy The Final World/DestinationRegistered User regular
    I think I prefer the glass half full approach on UCF's ranking: They got SOME first-place votes, preventing Alabama from getting a unanimous #1.

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  • SkwigelfSkwigelf Passed out in a cloud of farts and cigarette smoke.Registered User regular
    It'd be nice if the CFB playoff was all the #1 teams in each conference(or division for conferences that have split divisions) in a playoff series. Unfortunately that would be 19 teams, so a lot of extra games.

    But it would eliminate the whole "These teams from X Power Conferences get to play for the National Championship despite having a worse record than this other team from a 'weaker' conference." thing.

  • Fleur de AlysFleur de Alys Biohacker Registered User regular
    If we wanted conference champions alone to determine playoff contenders, we'd need to completely do away with the current conference system and rebuild it from the ground up.

    And add another division.

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  • SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    crwth wrote: »
    Sorce wrote: »
    Final AP Top 25 is out.
    1. Alabama (57)
    2. Georgia
    3. Oklahoma
    4. Clemson
    5. Ohio State
    6. UCF (4)
    7. Wisconsin
    8. Penn State
    9. TCU
    10. Auburn
    11. Notre Dame
    12. USC
    13. Miami
    14. Oklahoma State
    15. Michigan State
    16. Washington
    17. Northwestern
    18. LSU
    19. Mississippi State
    20. Stanford
    21. USF
    22. Boise State
    23. North Carolina State
    24. Virginia Tech
    25. Memphis

    Link.
    three florida teams and no sight of uf or fsu yowza

    Yeah it's pretty great!

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  • cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    So the ratings were up this year for the championship game, regardless of the all SEC slate. From 16.0 last year to 16.7 (9% increase).

    The playoffs in general had an 18% increase in viewership, which is obvious because they didn't put the games on fucking new year's eve like a bunch of idiots.


    https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2018/1/9/16869172/playoff-tv-ratings-alabama-georgia-national-championship

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  • Romanian My EscutcheonRomanian My Escutcheon Two of Forks Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    I think I prefer the glass half full approach on UCF's ranking: They got SOME first-place votes, preventing Alabama from getting a unanimous #1.

    Problem is, the glass half-empty version is...

    -UCF won the American, while Bama didn't even make the SEC title game.
    -UCF beat Auburn after Auburn beat Bama.
    -UCF went undefeated, Bama did not.
    -UCF ended the season with the same number of Top 25 wins as Bama.
    -UCF never received a CFP ranking commensurate with their performance, because the Playoff Committee's metrics lack any reliable degree of consistency, a criticism which has come up every single season since the Championship system was implemented.

    We should have received more #1 votes than we got. Though I can't say I'm surprised.

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  • NiryaNirya Registered User regular
    What I'm getting from the Imperialism map is that we shoulda Put Pitt In.

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Also draw Alaska to scale GO BUCKS!

    Seriously UCF should have been ranked higher than OSU and I'd love for the playoff to be expanded so teams like them in the future have a shot at it.

    Also there should be no bitching about Bama. The committee obviously made the right call putting them in.

  • Romanian My EscutcheonRomanian My Escutcheon Two of Forks Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    Also draw Alaska to scale GO BUCKS!

    Seriously UCF should have been ranked higher than OSU and I'd love for the playoff to be expanded so teams like them in the future have a shot at it.

    Also there should be no bitching about Bama. The committee obviously made the right call putting them in.

    Ends don't justify means, though. Bama winning doesn't make the committee's decision to include them any less irrational, nor does it make them seem in any way competent.

    Don't get me wrong, it's impressive that Bama pulled off the comeback, but I'm more inclined to give credit to Tua than pretend the committee somehow foresaw the Tide actually pulling it off.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I think I prefer the glass half full approach on UCF's ranking: They got SOME first-place votes, preventing Alabama from getting a unanimous #1.

    Problem is, the glass half-empty version is...

    -UCF won the American, while Bama didn't even make the SEC title game.
    -UCF beat Auburn after Auburn beat Bama.
    -UCF went undefeated, Bama did not.
    -UCF ended the season with the same number of Top 25 wins as Bama.
    -UCF never received a CFP ranking commensurate with their performance, because the Playoff Committee's metrics lack any reliable degree of consistency, a criticism which has come up every single season since the Championship system was implemented.

    We should have received more #1 votes than we got. Though I can't say I'm surprised.

    RMED, you realize this absurd, right?

    You're just being silly and don't actually expect anything from this, right?

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  • Romanian My EscutcheonRomanian My Escutcheon Two of Forks Registered User regular
    I think I prefer the glass half full approach on UCF's ranking: They got SOME first-place votes, preventing Alabama from getting a unanimous #1.

    Problem is, the glass half-empty version is...

    -UCF won the American, while Bama didn't even make the SEC title game.
    -UCF beat Auburn after Auburn beat Bama.
    -UCF went undefeated, Bama did not.
    -UCF ended the season with the same number of Top 25 wins as Bama.
    -UCF never received a CFP ranking commensurate with their performance, because the Playoff Committee's metrics lack any reliable degree of consistency, a criticism which has come up every single season since the Championship system was implemented.

    We should have received more #1 votes than we got. Though I can't say I'm surprised.

    RMED, you realize this absurd, right?

    You're just being silly and don't actually expect anything from this, right?

    I think it's ridiculous that the best we were able to get out of this exceptional season was #6 in the polls and a NY6 bowl that nobody expected us to win, while a P5 team that didn't even win its conference got a shot at the Playoffs simply on the strength of its name and reputation.

    I'm happy for y'all, I really am. But we should've been given a fair chance to prove that we were just as good as the four teams that ended up in the playoff, and because of a broken system run by a bunch of people with a blatant interest in preserving the myth that the Power 5 is head and shoulders above the Group of 5, we were robbed of that.

    I don't know if we could've beat Georgia or Alabama. I'd like to think that with this team, in this season, we could've pulled it off. But if claiming a National Championship somehow fixes this? Then I'll absolutely say that UCF was the best football team in the country during the 2017 season.

    Also; come on, that's my school. What do you think I'm gonna say?

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I think it is absurd y'all got ranked where you did and its dumb that you were continually ranked so low. And if you keep pumping yourself on that I will stand by you, man. But if you keep throwing shade on my team, at the happiest point of my team, the I am naturally gonna get upset. And by human nature it just makes me like you less as a fan. In my broken memory it gets labeled "that homer who railed on Bama for weeks to no avail," and I'd rather not remember ya like that since I like you. I don't like stirring shit with friends about our teams if I have to and I like being civil bout this, ya know?

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I remind you my best friend is an Auburn friend and he amanage to send me a good luck wish text where he basically just threw a bunch of shade at Georgia and then said that's the best he could hope for.

    We have a system. Being civil in college football requires a SYSTEM.

    Some b1g fans have proven otherwise ( not @Butler For Life #1 , I love you)

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    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • Romanian My EscutcheonRomanian My Escutcheon Two of Forks Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    I think it is absurd y'all got ranked where you did and its dumb that you were continually ranked so low. And if you keep pumping yourself on that I will stand by you, man. But if you keep throwing shade on my team, at the happiest point of my team, the I am naturally gonna get upset. And by human nature it just makes me like you less as a fan. In my broken memory it gets labeled "that homer who railed on Bama for weeks to no avail," and I'd rather not remember ya like that since I like you. I don't like stirring shit with friends about our teams if I have to and I like being civil bout this, ya know?

    That's fair, I can definitely rein it in a bit.

    I'm not trying to throw shade on anybody; you're my friend, and I hope it goes without saying I'm legitimately happy for you. I don't want to minimize what winning the title means for Bama, it's just frustrating that we never got our shot, and now it might be years before it comes around again.

    And I definitely want this to be a civil conversation, because hoo, boy, I've seen what an uncivil conversation about this looks like, and that is not a discussion I'm interested in.

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  • Butler For Life #1Butler For Life #1 Twinning is WinningRegistered User regular
    edited January 2018
    I remind you my best friend is an Auburn friend and he amanage to send me a good luck wish text where he basically just threw a bunch of shade at Georgia and then said that's the best he could hope for.

    We have a system. Being civil in college football requires a SYSTEM.

    Some b1g fans have proven otherwise ( not @Butler For Life #1 , I love you)

    A Michigan Man always remains civilized!

    ( <3. )

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  • SorceSorce Not ThereRegistered User regular
    And for the last time this season...

    https://youtu.be/TKb0Q-pnua4

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  • ani_game_bumani_game_bum Optimistic, Rule-Breaking Nice Guy The Final World/DestinationRegistered User regular
    I remind you my best friend is an Auburn friend and he amanage to send me a good luck wish text where he basically just threw a bunch of shade at Georgia and then said that's the best he could hope for.

    We have a system. Being civil in college football requires a SYSTEM.

    Some b1g fans have proven otherwise ( not @Butler For Life #1 , I love you)

    A Michigan Man always remains civilized!

    ( <3. )

    Uh-huh, yeah, we'll see how civil the Michigan Man is come September 1st, win or loss.

    God, I can't wait; that is going to be a fun game :rotate:

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  • Fleur de AlysFleur de Alys Biohacker Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    Bama deserved their shot, and they earned the title (bad Big-10 reffing and all).

    UCF also deserved a shot, and the system didn't let them have it. The committee definitely undervalued them, and I'm all aboard with UCF declaring themselves champions and putting it in their school history forever.

    6 teams arguably deserved a shot this year. 3 of them unquestionably earned it, and 3 more (Bama, OSU, and UCF) had asterisks but were nonetheless deserving.

    Both of the 3 with asterisks that didn't make it in were almost certainly better than the team that entered the playoffs at #1.

    I can't really fault the committee for the decisions they made. Stuff like this will happen no matter where you draw the line, and some people will always (and understandably) be upset when it doesn't go in their favor. Especially when it's a team from a school that, in all likelihood, will never see this level of success again. That really sucks, and I'm sorry for UCF fans. Keep claiming that (deserved) 2017 National Championship, and don't let anybody shush you.

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  • crwthcrwth THAT'S IT Registered User regular
    I think I prefer the glass half full approach on UCF's ranking: They got SOME first-place votes, preventing Alabama from getting a unanimous #1.

    Problem is, the glass half-empty version is...

    -UCF won the American, while Bama didn't even make the SEC title game.
    -UCF beat Auburn after Auburn beat Bama.
    -UCF went undefeated, Bama did not.
    -UCF ended the season with the same number of Top 25 wins as Bama.
    -UCF never received a CFP ranking commensurate with their performance, because the Playoff Committee's metrics lack any reliable degree of consistency, a criticism which has come up every single season since the Championship system was implemented.

    We should have received more #1 votes than we got. Though I can't say I'm surprised.

    RMED, you realize this absurd, right?

    You're just being silly and don't actually expect anything from this, right?

    I think it's ridiculous that the best we were able to get out of this exceptional season was #6 in the polls and a NY6 bowl that nobody expected us to win, while a P5 team that didn't even win its conference got a shot at the Playoffs simply on the strength of its name and reputation.

    I'm happy for y'all, I really am. But we should've been given a fair chance to prove that we were just as good as the four teams that ended up in the playoff, and because of a broken system run by a bunch of people with a blatant interest in preserving the myth that the Power 5 is head and shoulders above the Group of 5, we were robbed of that.

    I don't know if we could've beat Georgia or Alabama. I'd like to think that with this team, in this season, we could've pulled it off. But if claiming a National Championship somehow fixes this? Then I'll absolutely say that UCF was the best football team in the country during the 2017 season.

    Also; come on, that's my school. What do you think I'm gonna say?

    usf shoulda won :sad:

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  • cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    Sorce wrote: »
    And for the last time this season...

    https://youtu.be/TKb0Q-pnua4

    I love jermaine. my dad also changed clothes at half

    Also, add another titanic meme to the pile

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ7YucMSTTg

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  • Blackhawk1313Blackhawk1313 Demon Hunter for Hire Time RiftRegistered User regular
    Yeah I should definitely say out of the heat of the moment that I have nothing but congrats to give to Bama for their win, and I’m glad it has made all the Bama fans here happy too. Bitterness doesn’t look good on anyone and should in no way detract from the great season y’all. Basically, I’m sorry I can be an idiot sometimes that gets wayyyy to in to things, especially to you Munkus.

  • iTunesIsEviliTunesIsEvil Cornfield? Cornfield.Registered User regular
    Nooooooo. I was just reading that Notre Dame lost our new-as-of-2017 DC Elko to aTm ($1.8mm/yr is haaaaard to turn down), and our OL coach Harry Heistand (who has produced some great fuckin' linemen).


    Also, hahahahahaahaha @ Munkus and his "civil" system. "Fuck Notre Dame." Oh how very civil of you, sir. You are gentlemanly in ways that most of us will never be able to understand. :lol:

  • PellaeonPellaeon Registered User regular
    Nooooooo. I was just reading that Notre Dame lost our new-as-of-2017 DC Elko to aTm ($1.8mm/yr is haaaaard to turn down), and our OL coach Harry Heistand (who has produced some great fuckin' linemen).


    Also, hahahahahaahaha @ Munkus and his "civil" system. "Fuck Notre Dame." Oh how very civil of you, sir. You are gentlemanly in ways that most of us will never be able to understand. :lol:

    To be fair he took offense to throwing shade at bama at after winning the national championship.

    Something Notre Dame will never have to worry about, heyo!
    I'm an Oregon fan, hey....oh :(

  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Hey Og

    A Longhorn made the "all bowl" team

    Yes it was their fantastic punter

  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    And I still say the committee is allowed to go "holy shit Bama has an 81% blue chip ratio ok put them in"

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