It was my understanding that the Tau manage to slightly skim at the edge of the warp instead of fully submerging like humans.
And can therefore travel faster than light, but slower, and shorter distances than humans.
I mean, humans can navigate the warp without navigators or psykers, the ships are mechanical, but navigators make it safer, and astronomicon allows for more accurate navigation.
wait here's something I've never thought about before
how do the Tau do space travel? do they use the Warp at all? how do they function without Navigators and the Astronomican?
According to the wiki they use a bastardized version of a Warp Drive that actually doesn't really expose them to any ill-effects. However, it is only near-light speeds and is slower by a factor of 5 to an Imperial Warp Drive.
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Shortytouching the meatIntergalactic Cool CourtRegistered Userregular
wait here's something I've never thought about before
how do the Tau do space travel? do they use the Warp at all? how do they function without Navigators and the Astronomican?
According to the wiki they use a bastardized version of a Warp Drive that actually doesn't really expose them to any ill-effects. However, it is only near-light speeds and is slower by a factor of 5 to an Imperial Warp Drive.
near-light?
man, that can't be right, it would take them years to get from one system to another
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PiptheFairFrequently not in boats.Registered Userregular
wait here's something I've never thought about before
how do the Tau do space travel? do they use the Warp at all? how do they function without Navigators and the Astronomican?
According to the wiki they use a bastardized version of a Warp Drive that actually doesn't really expose them to any ill-effects. However, it is only near-light speeds and is slower by a factor of 5 to an Imperial Warp Drive.
near-light?
man, that can't be right, it would take them years to get from one system to another
the tau empire is actually super small comparatively
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Shortytouching the meatIntergalactic Cool CourtRegistered Userregular
wait here's something I've never thought about before
how do the Tau do space travel? do they use the Warp at all? how do they function without Navigators and the Astronomican?
According to the wiki they use a bastardized version of a Warp Drive that actually doesn't really expose them to any ill-effects. However, it is only near-light speeds and is slower by a factor of 5 to an Imperial Warp Drive.
near-light?
man, that can't be right, it would take them years to get from one system to another
the tau empire is actually super small comparatively
Still seems a bit odd, considering our closest star system is over 4 light-years away.
wait here's something I've never thought about before
how do the Tau do space travel? do they use the Warp at all? how do they function without Navigators and the Astronomican?
According to the wiki they use a bastardized version of a Warp Drive that actually doesn't really expose them to any ill-effects. However, it is only near-light speeds and is slower by a factor of 5 to an Imperial Warp Drive.
near-light?
man, that can't be right, it would take them years to get from one system to another
the tau empire is actually super small comparatively
Still seems a bit odd, considering our closest star system is over 4 light-years away.
Space is big, yo.
they skirt warp space, and as a result don't travel "faster" than light, but do arrive faster than light would travel because the warp is fucking weird
Yeah the Tau like to think of themselves as this bigshot unstoppable empire, but they’re barely a blip on the radar. Being on the fringes of Imperium territory and a bunch of resource-depleting wars with chaos is all that’s kept one good xenocidal crusade from wiping them out. Let alone getting the full attention of an Ork waagh! or hive fleet.
So people were talking about how other factions have win/lose conditions. The orks get their shit together and stomp everyone. The rest of the tyranid hive fleets show up one day etc.
How does that map with the Tau? Because yeah as cool as "Almost good guys" is I don't see a scenario where they come out as top dog unless they idk less subtly mind control Terra or something
So people were talking about how other factions have win/lose conditions. The orks get their shit together and stomp everyone. The rest of the tyranid hive fleets show up one day etc.
How does that map with the Tau? Because yeah as cool as "Almost good guys" is I don't see a scenario where they come out as top dog unless they idk less subtly mind control Terra or something
Thier whole thing is that they have been around an incredibly short amount of time but rival the Empire in tech already
I've never seen the sterilisation thing sourced. like the Tau where they are in my head Canon. Ridgid case system, imperialist, little freedom, a willingness to kill those in the way. In any other Universe they would be the bad guys. Here? They come of a positively enlightened.
It's from the Dawn of War video game, I've never seen it anywhere else. Which is why I mostly discount it.
So people were talking about how other factions have win/lose conditions. The orks get their shit together and stomp everyone. The rest of the tyranid hive fleets show up one day etc.
How does that map with the Tau? Because yeah as cool as "Almost good guys" is I don't see a scenario where they come out as top dog unless they idk less subtly mind control Terra or something
The win condition for the orks is to keep on fighting.
apparently, in one of the big worldwide campaign things from a few years back, if the tau had done better with battles and stuff, one of the outcomes would have been that they would have discovered warp travel.
Here's a link to the Tau "Empire" as relative to the rest of the galaxy. Map time!
Not sure how accurately it lines up with canon since i don't know the source, but since it seems that half the time canon doesn't line up with canon I'm not too terribly worried.
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PiptheFairFrequently not in boats.Registered Userregular
Here's a link to the Tau "Empire" as relative to the rest of the galaxy. Map time!
Not sure how accurately it lines up with canon since i don't know the source, but since it seems that half the time canon doesn't line up with canon I'm not too terribly worried.
The Tau are really the army I do want to play but in the in and out problem I had with 40k around 8 years ago It just never really clicked for me as play it
I even got one of the Apoc forces as a prize that I did say I am going to try to make a army of them
It just never came about. Again like the tyranids I just don't know how to paint them. Doing the Farsight enclave would be neat but again it's yet another red army for me {saim hann and now the ynnari}
I know the Warhammer Tv thing has answered a lot of questions about how to do it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CHVvvwbbek
But my paint is old like 20+ years old
It's worse than that for some of them like chunky rubber now
I know I have had to replace it for sometime just it's a lot of money and well there are other things that need my attention before it
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WeaverWho are you?What do you want?Registered Userregular
First few chapters of this book really set off my itch to play deathwing.
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SkwigelfPassed out in a cloud of farts and cigarette smoke.Registered Userregular
Thanks for the reminder. Picked up the eBook(I have the whole series on my classic Kindle and have been going through it again for the umpteenth time. Currently on Sabbat Martyr.)
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The storm passed.
The thunder faded.
On ancient servos, the massive form of a bronze-edged, blue-armoured Dreadnought stepped forward. It was heavy enough to shake the room. The cannonfire had been nothing compared to its howling servo joints and cacophonous tread.
‘L-lord?’ Mercutian whispered.
‘You’re awake…’ Cyrion breathed. ‘How…’
In a guttural, vox-altered boom, the Dreadnought spoke from speakers wrought into its ornate chassis.
‘I heard bolter fire.’
So people were talking about how other factions have win/lose conditions. The orks get their shit together and stomp everyone. The rest of the tyranid hive fleets show up one day etc.
How does that map with the Tau? Because yeah as cool as "Almost good guys" is I don't see a scenario where they come out as top dog unless they idk less subtly mind control Terra or something
Thier whole thing is that they have been around an incredibly short amount of time but rival the Empire in tech already
Another leap forward in technology would do it.
Tau technology is actually much worse than imperial tech. By like a long ways. It’s just the Tau are much more willing to give new technology’s to troops, whereas it’s not possible to feasibly do it in the imperium.
In a world where resources and logistics don’t exist the imperium wins every time because every guardsmen gets a plasma gun and every tank is a land raider.
The Tau empire is so much smaller than producing the latest plasma rifle and distributing it is much easier.
The best example is consider that a battlesuit is functionally the same as marine power armour but much more bulky, Tau plasma and melta equivalents are too large to be carried by infantry, and that the force field on a riptide damages the mech when used to full and is even then only as effective as an iron halo.
I might be wrong, but...
Tau tech is more reliable, because they're newer (they have not kept the same gun going for past couple thousand years), and because they have better understanding of the tech.
But Empire has better tech, it's just not widely spread due to lack of resources, not really understanding how to replicate it, religious reasons, worries about rebellions, class restrictions, etc...
Yeah, the Imperial armies seem low tech because they send 90% of their troops into the field in what is basically modified farming equipment. They favour cheapness and reliability above all else. The rest of their eqipment is miles above what the Tau can produce.
Even if the empire could gear up their troops with nothing but the best of the best, they would not.
There's too many rebellions in the empires history to let everyone have the best gear.
No, that's limited to the most loyal (Astartes, Sororitas, whatever the Mechanicus troops were called) with some distinguished regiments, or specialist troops (like stormtroopers) getting better gear than regular troops.
Yeah, the Imperial armies seem low tech because they send 90% of their troops into the field in what is basically modified farming equipment. They favour cheapness and reliability above all else. The rest of their eqipment is miles above what the Tau can produce.
The idea that the Imperium doesn't make new technology though has been taken out to a field and shot given the new update though.
Primaris Marines and their war gear are all substantial tech upgrades.
And even before, there has been constant, but tectonically slow, innovation.
Mechanicus has research stations, they have researchers, they conduct studies, build prototypes and bring in new ideas.
They just are very, very slow in doing so, and probably spend way more resources in finding STC parts.
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Also, with Primaris, they could finally make female space marines, with the excuse "but the emprah" being out of the way.
They probably won't, but this would be a prime opportunity to introduce them.
Tau tech is also advancing slowly. The Tau Empire doesn't need to outfit literal trillions of soldiers as mentioned above, but the Earth Caste has been hard at work miniaturizing battlesuits. The XV22 suit combines aspects of the large XV8 Crisis suit with the XV25 Stealth suit, and it's barely bigger than a Tau Fire Warrior is.
And I hear there's a whole ton of new battlesuits since I last played eight years ago. Yay robots!
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And can therefore travel faster than light, but slower, and shorter distances than humans.
I mean, humans can navigate the warp without navigators or psykers, the ships are mechanical, but navigators make it safer, and astronomicon allows for more accurate navigation.
According to the wiki they use a bastardized version of a Warp Drive that actually doesn't really expose them to any ill-effects. However, it is only near-light speeds and is slower by a factor of 5 to an Imperial Warp Drive.
near-light?
man, that can't be right, it would take them years to get from one system to another
the tau empire is actually super small comparatively
Still seems a bit odd, considering our closest star system is over 4 light-years away.
Space is big, yo.
they skirt warp space, and as a result don't travel "faster" than light, but do arrive faster than light would travel because the warp is fucking weird
but it does take them a long time to travel
I've been waiting since 2012!
basically just google tau empire map
How does that map with the Tau? Because yeah as cool as "Almost good guys" is I don't see a scenario where they come out as top dog unless they idk less subtly mind control Terra or something
Thier whole thing is that they have been around an incredibly short amount of time but rival the Empire in tech already
Another leap forward in technology would do it.
The win condition for the orks is to keep on fighting.
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Here's a link to the Tau "Empire" as relative to the rest of the galaxy.
Map time!
Not sure how accurately it lines up with canon since i don't know the source, but since it seems that half the time canon doesn't line up with canon I'm not too terribly worried.
yeah that's the original map I used
but it kept resizing for some dumb reason
I even got one of the Apoc forces as a prize that I did say I am going to try to make a army of them
It just never came about. Again like the tyranids I just don't know how to paint them. Doing the Farsight enclave would be neat but again it's yet another red army for me {saim hann and now the ynnari}
I know the Warhammer Tv thing has answered a lot of questions about how to do it
But my paint is old like 20+ years old
It's worse than that for some of them like chunky rubber now
I know I have had to replace it for sometime just it's a lot of money and well there are other things that need my attention before it
Thanks for the reminder. Picked up the eBook(I have the whole series on my classic Kindle and have been going through it again for the umpteenth time. Currently on Sabbat Martyr.)
Tau technology is actually much worse than imperial tech. By like a long ways. It’s just the Tau are much more willing to give new technology’s to troops, whereas it’s not possible to feasibly do it in the imperium.
In a world where resources and logistics don’t exist the imperium wins every time because every guardsmen gets a plasma gun and every tank is a land raider.
The Tau empire is so much smaller than producing the latest plasma rifle and distributing it is much easier.
The best example is consider that a battlesuit is functionally the same as marine power armour but much more bulky, Tau plasma and melta equivalents are too large to be carried by infantry, and that the force field on a riptide damages the mech when used to full and is even then only as effective as an iron halo.
Tau tech is more reliable, because they're newer (they have not kept the same gun going for past couple thousand years), and because they have better understanding of the tech.
But Empire has better tech, it's just not widely spread due to lack of resources, not really understanding how to replicate it, religious reasons, worries about rebellions, class restrictions, etc...
There's too many rebellions in the empires history to let everyone have the best gear.
No, that's limited to the most loyal (Astartes, Sororitas, whatever the Mechanicus troops were called) with some distinguished regiments, or specialist troops (like stormtroopers) getting better gear than regular troops.
Also they don't bother with goddamn praying over a computer that bluescreened on them.
MAYBE THEY SHOULD
their armor is, their weapons are not
Tau can suck it, we've got super space marines who jump out of space ships and can dual wield sawn off heavy bolters
Primaris Marines and their war gear are all substantial tech upgrades.
Mechanicus has research stations, they have researchers, they conduct studies, build prototypes and bring in new ideas.
They just are very, very slow in doing so, and probably spend way more resources in finding STC parts.
edit-
Also, with Primaris, they could finally make female space marines, with the excuse "but the emprah" being out of the way.
They probably won't, but this would be a prime opportunity to introduce them.
And I hear there's a whole ton of new battlesuits since I last played eight years ago. Yay robots!