There's someone near me selling their used GTX 980 for $200. It doesn't look like it came from a (serious, at least) mining operation and the listing says that it was just replaced as part of an upgrade.
A 980 would be a decent step up in performance from my 1050 Ti, and $200 is pretty cheap for a used 980. The 1050 Ti is a little price inflated right now too, so I should be able to sell it on eBay or CL for most/all of the cost of the 980.
Like, at $200 I feel like it's worth it, but I'm hesitant to buy a used GPU.
I'm a lot less optimistic about your warranty chances than other people are (you are at the mercy of the actual manufacturer at all), but that doesn't change the fact that a GTX 980 is still a very robust card, especially at 1080p. I'd suggest doing some research with the supplier to see if they would still cover it considering where you bought it in case something goes wrong, but if you're comfortable with that, you're getting a good card for $200. The 9 and 10-series cards really haven't declined in price the way we would've seen in the past.
Yeah, I think I'm going to go for it. The 980 is still a very powerful card and I'm not going to leave 1080p anytime soon. Looking at benchmarks, the 980 can do between 25-40fps more at 1080p (depending on tbe game) than the 1050 ti. That's a substantial boost.
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I've got a 980. It's a 1080p powerhouse but 1440p kicks it's ass.
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Hey could I get halp on a PC build? It's been years and I know basically nothing now. Lady Raven's laptop broke, and we're thinking about replacing it with a fancy tower. It's gonna be connected to our living room TV, as the laptop was. Budget is 1000, but I'd hope for closer to 500.
Benchmark is playing Overwatch gud on a 1080 screen! I was looking at this guide
and actually, I just remembered this. I know a guy on a 3570 and a GTX 1060 6GB. He told me yesterday that his average framerates on HOTS went from 80 to 50 after applying the patch.
That seems.... significant.
Not to call your friend out, but I call total bull on this. Nothing about kernel page table access would cause you to lose 30 frames of compute power. This is not a compute bound problem and never was. It's an I/O bound problem and HOTS doesn't do that kind of I/O. I buy it when people say they lose 10% performance in Witcher 3 because Witcher 3 is constantly streaming in level data so constantly causing kernel page table swaps. 40% frame drops in HOTS? Not buying it. Either something else is causing it, or your friend saw 50 frames one time and knee jerked.
Hey could I get halp on a PC build? It's been years and I know basically nothing now. Lady Raven's laptop broke, and we're thinking about replacing it with a fancy tower. It's gonna be connected to our living room TV, as the laptop was. Budget is 1000, but I'd hope for closer to 500.
Benchmark is playing Overwatch gud on a 1080 screen! I was looking at this guide
But all the linked parts are actually much pricier than indicated on the chart. I guess due to bitcoin mining sucking up hardware? Ech!
Anyone got recommendations for a decent graphics card in the 3-4gb range that isn't massively inflated right now? Cheers
Since you're planning on putting this in your living room, I'd recommend looking at HTPC cases, like the Shift/Shift X. They will be a bit pricier, but are designed to fit in better.
As for video cards, you may want to wait for the new Ryzen APUs to hit the market - these will have Vega cores built in, allowing you to forgo a discrete video card.
Hey could I get halp on a PC build? It's been years and I know basically nothing now. Lady Raven's laptop broke, and we're thinking about replacing it with a fancy tower. It's gonna be connected to our living room TV, as the laptop was. Budget is 1000, but I'd hope for closer to 500.
Benchmark is playing Overwatch gud on a 1080 screen! I was looking at this guide
But all the linked parts are actually much pricier than indicated on the chart. I guess due to bitcoin mining sucking up hardware? Ech!
Anyone got recommendations for a decent graphics card in the 3-4gb range that isn't massively inflated right now? Cheers
A 1050ti should handle Overwatch at 1080p with decent graphics settings (I've heard you can expect 60FPS even on High/Ultra) but yeah, basically every video card is super inflated right now thanks to the crypto boom.
So my monitor died a couple of months ago and right now I have a borrowed screen a friend will probably want back some time soon, so I'm looking at new screens.
Right now I'm looking at an AOC AGON AG271QG, but I see there's also the AG271UG model that's actual 4k, and they both have G-Sync -- and more importantly, right now they happen to have the exact same price at my local store.
Found some comparison site that puts specs side by side. Seems the 4k version has 15ms input lag while the other one is 4ms, otherwise I can't really spot any real difference apart from one being 4k.
Any particular opinions one way or the other? 4k would be nice, but not massively important.
edit: ah, now I spotted the 60Hz vertical refresh on the 4k UG model. Yeah, think I'll go for the QG model then.
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So my monitor died a couple of months ago and right now I have a borrowed screen a friend will probably want back some time soon, so I'm looking at new screens.
Right now I'm looking at an AOC AGON AG271QG, but I see there's also the AG271UG model that's actual 4k, and they both have G-Sync -- and more importantly, right now they happen to have the exact same price at my local store.
Found some comparison site that puts specs side by side. Seems the 4k version has 15ms input lag while the other one is 4ms, otherwise I can't really spot any real difference apart from one being 4k.
Any particular opinions one way or the other? 4k would be nice, but not massively important.
edit: ah, now I spotted the 60Hz vertical refresh on the 4k UG model. Yeah, think I'll go for the QG model then.
I'd go with the one with a higher refresh rate. Not many people have a PC that can handle 4k.
So I'm finally putting together my new build after putting it off for a couple years. I've picked up a Fractal Define Mini MATX case and a ryzen 1700x. Since the CPU doesn't come with a heatsink, I'll need to pick one up. I've always used the stock one that came with my old intel CPUs so I'm not exactly sure what I need to look for when buying one. I'm not looking to do any crazy overclocking for now so I don't need anything fancy.
So I'm finally putting together my new build after putting it off for a couple years. I've picked up a Fractal Define Mini MATX case and a ryzen 1700x. Since the CPU doesn't come with a heatsink, I'll need to pick one up. I've always used the stock one that came with my old intel CPUs so I'm not exactly sure what I need to look for when buying one. I'm not looking to do any crazy overclocking for now so I don't need anything fancy.
Any recommendations?
The main thing to keep in mind with a smaller case is the height of the cooler. Based on the info on the Fractal Design website, the max height is 170mm. If you don't plan on any heavy overclocking, something like a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO or a Cryorig H7 should be okay. Or you can always go with an AIO cooler like a Corsair H100i or a Kraken x62.
The 212 Evo is what I've got on my Ryzen 3 1200 and even when max overclocked (3.95Ghz) it stays nice and cool (~39°C idle, ~77° under stress test load). The 1700X will stress it more under really heavy load, but expect to be able to overclock it pretty well if you wish.
I just noticed that ASUS released a BIOS update that includes a fix for 'Updated Intel CPU microcode.' So if you haven't been doing so, or haven't been recently, double check your MB maker has done so, too.
So apparently Chromecasts and Google Homes queue up packet requests and execute them all at once when they wake from sleep. (this will be cross-posted)
Recently been poking around at prices and possibilities.
I just want to say one thing.
Fuck cryptominers the arsehole with a rusty, redhot drill, because these video cards prices are fucking insane and in no way reasonable.
One of my buddies had his videocard die on him a few weeks back and he was asking me for suggestions on a card that's under $250. Back then, I could at least find a Radeon 570 4gb for around that price...and the 8gb that was ~$290. Unfortunately, he hesitated, and now, for $250, all I can find under $250 is a 1050ti.
Although, he may be lucking out: I hold onto all my cards after I make an upgrade. Dug around in my closet and found my GTX980 from when I made the jump to a 1080. He'll be getting it at bargain basement prices (relatively speaking).
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GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
The lights in my apartment dim for a second when I turn my 1000 watt PSU PC on. 2200 watts? Hilarious.
Recently been poking around at prices and possibilities.
I just want to say one thing.
Fuck cryptominers the arsehole with a rusty, redhot drill, because these video cards prices are fucking insane and in no way reasonable.
One of my buddies had his videocard die on him a few weeks back and he was asking me for suggestions on a card that's under $250. Back then, I could at least find a Radeon 570 4gb for around that price...and the 8gb that was ~$290. Unfortunately, he hesitated, and now, for $250, all I can find under $250 is a 1050ti.
Although, he may be lucking out: I hold onto all my cards after I make an upgrade. Dug around in my closet and found my GTX980 from when I made the jump to a 1080. He'll be getting it at bargain basement prices (relatively speaking).
was looking to buy a 1070 or 1080 myself.
But fuck that, I've seen prices as high as two fucking grand.
Wish we could just buy direct from fucking nvidia for mrsp and avoid this fucking miner fucking fuckery.
yea remember when nvidia released the "founders edition" cards first and they were $50 more than MSRP as basically a "get this card early tax" and we all hated it?
I really need a new video card and I'd buy a 1060 6GB founders edition right now if I could actually get one. But as it stands right now the STRIX 1060 6GB is currenlty $380 Canadian, and there's just no fucking way.
Which is just pants on head stupid....for that price you may as well just get a Titan Xp and use the remainder for an office pizza and blow party.
Anyone idea when prices will come back towards reality?
because at these prices I'm not building a new computer.
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GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
Give it a few months for people to realize crypto currency is the Ponzi scheme of Ponzi schemes, and/or for governments to start to regulate it, and the prices of GPU's will come down. Crypto is so over valued right now that it's making even 1080 Ti's, which are normally not economically good mining cards, economically viable.
Which is just pants on head stupid....for that price you may as well just get a Titan Xp and use the remainder for an office pizza and blow party.
Anyone idea when prices will come back towards reality?
because at these prices I'm not building a new computer.
Probably when cryptomining goes out of vogue.
And, if you want sane prices with RAM, when smartphones stop using the same RAM modules that desktops do. Although, to be fair, I was reading how DDR4 prices are likely going to drop a fair bit later on in the year as production catches up with demand.
I was thinking of picking up 16gb of DDR4 here next week so I can get my new build up and running, and then hold off on the other 16gb for when prices come down a bit...but I'm a bit hesitant. Are there any benefits of going with 4x8gb over 2x16gb other than the obvious benefit of potentially going to 64gb of RAM (4x16gb) in an 8700K setup (so no quad-channel RAM)?
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The phone thing is less about RAM and more flash storage. Demand for flash memory storage is so high that plants are shifting production from RAM to flash storage modules.
The phone thing is less about RAM and more flash storage. Demand for flash memory storage is so high that plants are shifting production from RAM to flash storage modules.
Ah, thank you...I had a strong feeling that something I wrote wasn't quite right, but I couldn't place my finger on it.
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I'm a lot less optimistic about your warranty chances than other people are (you are at the mercy of the actual manufacturer at all), but that doesn't change the fact that a GTX 980 is still a very robust card, especially at 1080p. I'd suggest doing some research with the supplier to see if they would still cover it considering where you bought it in case something goes wrong, but if you're comfortable with that, you're getting a good card for $200. The 9 and 10-series cards really haven't declined in price the way we would've seen in the past.
Benchmark is playing Overwatch gud on a 1080 screen! I was looking at this guide
http://www.logicalincrements.com/games/overwatch
But all the linked parts are actually much pricier than indicated on the chart. I guess due to bitcoin mining sucking up hardware? Ech!
Anyone got recommendations for a decent graphics card in the 3-4gb range that isn't massively inflated right now? Cheers
Not to call your friend out, but I call total bull on this. Nothing about kernel page table access would cause you to lose 30 frames of compute power. This is not a compute bound problem and never was. It's an I/O bound problem and HOTS doesn't do that kind of I/O. I buy it when people say they lose 10% performance in Witcher 3 because Witcher 3 is constantly streaming in level data so constantly causing kernel page table swaps. 40% frame drops in HOTS? Not buying it. Either something else is causing it, or your friend saw 50 frames one time and knee jerked.
Since you're planning on putting this in your living room, I'd recommend looking at HTPC cases, like the Shift/Shift X. They will be a bit pricier, but are designed to fit in better.
As for video cards, you may want to wait for the new Ryzen APUs to hit the market - these will have Vega cores built in, allowing you to forgo a discrete video card.
8 gigs of RAM is pretty low, I would try for at least 16 nowadays on anything but the most budget of PCs. Do you really need a DVD drive?
Keep in mind that the Ryzen chips don't have graphics built in, so you will need a video card to do anything with that build.
A 1050ti should handle Overwatch at 1080p with decent graphics settings (I've heard you can expect 60FPS even on High/Ultra) but yeah, basically every video card is super inflated right now thanks to the crypto boom.
Right now I'm looking at an AOC AGON AG271QG, but I see there's also the AG271UG model that's actual 4k, and they both have G-Sync -- and more importantly, right now they happen to have the exact same price at my local store.
Found some comparison site that puts specs side by side. Seems the 4k version has 15ms input lag while the other one is 4ms, otherwise I can't really spot any real difference apart from one being 4k.
Any particular opinions one way or the other? 4k would be nice, but not massively important.
edit: ah, now I spotted the 60Hz vertical refresh on the 4k UG model. Yeah, think I'll go for the QG model then.
I'd go with the one with a higher refresh rate. Not many people have a PC that can handle 4k.
Any recommendations?
The main thing to keep in mind with a smaller case is the height of the cooler. Based on the info on the Fractal Design website, the max height is 170mm. If you don't plan on any heavy overclocking, something like a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO or a Cryorig H7 should be okay. Or you can always go with an AIO cooler like a Corsair H100i or a Kraken x62.
https://reddit.com/r/Android/comments/7qk7rq/tplink_engineer_explains_wifi_disconnections_tied/
EVGA showcased a 2200W PSU at CES. 183 AMPS on the 12V rail
Currently only 220V wall plug.
That must be a mistake.
that's gonna be one hell of a mining rig.
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I just want to say one thing.
Fuck cryptominers the arsehole with a rusty, redhot drill, because these video cards prices are fucking insane and in no way reasonable.
just string your clothes up in the room with the rig, it'll dry them out in a few minutes
One of my buddies had his videocard die on him a few weeks back and he was asking me for suggestions on a card that's under $250. Back then, I could at least find a Radeon 570 4gb for around that price...and the 8gb that was ~$290. Unfortunately, he hesitated, and now, for $250, all I can find under $250 is a 1050ti.
Although, he may be lucking out: I hold onto all my cards after I make an upgrade. Dug around in my closet and found my GTX980 from when I made the jump to a 1080. He'll be getting it at bargain basement prices (relatively speaking).
was looking to buy a 1070 or 1080 myself.
But fuck that, I've seen prices as high as two fucking grand.
Wish we could just buy direct from fucking nvidia for mrsp and avoid this fucking miner fucking fuckery.
I really need a new video card and I'd buy a 1060 6GB founders edition right now if I could actually get one. But as it stands right now the STRIX 1060 6GB is currenlty $380 Canadian, and there's just no fucking way.
PC Gamer put out an article last night/early this morning detailing exactly this. Apparently 1080tis are now selling for upwards of $1300.
http://www.pcgamer.com/its-a-terrible-time-to-buy-a-graphics-card/
I've seen 1080tis almost as high as two grand.
Which is just pants on head stupid....for that price you may as well just get a Titan Xp and use the remainder for an office pizza and blow party.
Anyone idea when prices will come back towards reality?
because at these prices I'm not building a new computer.
Probably when cryptomining goes out of vogue.
And, if you want sane prices with RAM, when smartphones stop using the same RAM modules that desktops do. Although, to be fair, I was reading how DDR4 prices are likely going to drop a fair bit later on in the year as production catches up with demand.
I was thinking of picking up 16gb of DDR4 here next week so I can get my new build up and running, and then hold off on the other 16gb for when prices come down a bit...but I'm a bit hesitant. Are there any benefits of going with 4x8gb over 2x16gb other than the obvious benefit of potentially going to 64gb of RAM (4x16gb) in an 8700K setup (so no quad-channel RAM)?
Ah, thank you...I had a strong feeling that something I wrote wasn't quite right, but I couldn't place my finger on it.
Crypto took a pretty big dip on the last couple of days. I really hope that signals the end hardware hoarders.