What's a good site(s) for tracking PC parts deals?
pcpartpicker.com is a good place to assemble your parts list, and they track prices from a large variety of retail storefronts. You can also set up email alerts if prices drop.
Anything more general? like that something that would post silicon lottery sale?
I don't really have a set parts list, more just looking at a price range.
I bought a new system an embarrassingly long time ago and finally had the energy for the last push today.
I had been unable to get it to post, but read the part of the manual that told me the four lights that show what hardware part the start-up is on and concluded that there might be something wrong with the cpu.
Unseated the cooler, cleaned the cpu, installed again and got it to post.
I then tried to flash the latest bios, which went fine until it was done and now the computer hangs on start-up.
It's a MSI board with a readout that tells me it gets to:
60 DXE (driver execution environment) Core is started.
Next step should be 61 NVRAM initialization.
I'm getting the feeling that the Bios flash didn't go well.
I couln't get anything specific on the problem by googling but did find this link on how to recover a bricked MSI motherboard:
I'm willing to try to recover in the way told in the link, but the SSD is buried under the graphics card, and I would like someone elses opinion before I start the process of disconnecting most things from the board.
Anybody got a source for reviews that maybe doesn't index well on Google? Heh. I'm trying to find reviews for this board;
ASRock - Fatal1ty X470 Gaming K4
It's got RGB and ARGB headers, a post code display panel, a rear plate full of USB 3.1/3.2 ports, ARGB sync compatibility with the cooler I'm looking to get, nice neutral color scheme on the board... but essentially no reviews on the internet. Most folks who review ASRock boards are focusing on the Taichi and Taichi Ultimate.
I bought a new system an embarrassingly long time ago and finally had the energy for the last push today.
I had been unable to get it to post, but read the part of the manual that told me the four lights that show what hardware part the start-up is on and concluded that there might be something wrong with the cpu.
Unseated the cooler, cleaned the cpu, installed again and got it to post.
I then tried to flash the latest bios, which went fine until it was done and now the computer hangs on start-up.
It's a MSI board with a readout that tells me it gets to:
60 DXE (driver execution environment) Core is started.
Next step should be 61 NVRAM initialization.
I'm getting the feeling that the Bios flash didn't go well.
I couln't get anything specific on the problem by googling but did find this link on how to recover a bricked MSI motherboard:
I'm willing to try to recover in the way told in the link, but the SSD is buried under the graphics card, and I would like someone elses opinion before I start the process of disconnecting most things from the board.
Any help or advice apriciated.
First mistake was flashing the BIOS unless you had some problem you were trying to fix in the first place.
The SSD shouldn't be that hard to get to, but if is get a bigger case :P And you just have to remove the data cable, you can unplug it from the motherboard side if you have to.
Seems like it's the BIOS and you have nothing to lose if it won't POST or otherwise hangs and nothing else changed.
It's been a couple days and doing a clean install of the drivers seems to have solved the problem. I don't know how it came to be that my drivers got uninstalled, and why updating them didn't actually install them. But for the time being everything seems to be working fine.
And yes, the 980 is still a good card. I just have the GTX, and still can run anything at 1080 at high/ultra. I'm sure there are some PC games that I just don't have or don't play that would require some reduced settings, but for what I do play, it is completely sufficient. I had hoped, when I got the card in the first place, that eventually the prices would come down enough to warrant a second 980 to let me skip the 10 series, but I had no idea the whole crypto mining thing would pop up and maintain full launch retail price of old cards. :rotate:
Regardless, for now, I still have a hope that I can last to the next generation.
But we've got a whole slew of software coming out soon, like Cyberpunk 2077, which will probably finally show the age of the 9XX series.
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I'm still on a 680 over here, and with my current income I should be able to afford to upgrade some time in 2063...
I'm still on a 680 as well! It is impressive how well the 680 still holds up actually. I've certainly had my value from it.
To be fair though, I guess i would have upgraded it by now if not for the crypto bubble
I bought a new system an embarrassingly long time ago and finally had the energy for the last push today.
I had been unable to get it to post, but read the part of the manual that told me the four lights that show what hardware part the start-up is on and concluded that there might be something wrong with the cpu.
Unseated the cooler, cleaned the cpu, installed again and got it to post.
I then tried to flash the latest bios, which went fine until it was done and now the computer hangs on start-up.
It's a MSI board with a readout that tells me it gets to:
60 DXE (driver execution environment) Core is started.
Next step should be 61 NVRAM initialization.
I'm getting the feeling that the Bios flash didn't go well.
I couln't get anything specific on the problem by googling but did find this link on how to recover a bricked MSI motherboard:
I'm willing to try to recover in the way told in the link, but the SSD is buried under the graphics card, and I would like someone elses opinion before I start the process of disconnecting most things from the board.
Any help or advice apriciated.
First mistake was flashing the BIOS unless you had some problem you were trying to fix in the first place.
The SSD shouldn't be that hard to get to, but if is get a bigger case :P And you just have to remove the data cable, you can unplug it from the motherboard side if you have to.
Seems like it's the BIOS and you have nothing to lose if it won't POST or otherwise hangs and nothing else changed.
Thanks for the reply.
The thing about the SSD was just me ranting about the M.2 being directly under the graphics card and making it a bigger problem than it was.
As it turns out in the cold light of day I looked at the back of the case and the motherboard has a USB marked as BIOSFlashback+.
And after looking in the manual there is a button that flashes the Bios from the file located on a key inserted in this port.
So now the computer works. Yay!
Computet hardware have come a long way since the end of the 90s. I remember having my mind blown when the ports got colour coded.
Wound up going down to a 250gb 970 Evo, going to set up tiered storage with it and the new 2TB HDD using the StoreMi utility. Watched some vids on the tech and read through the manual/FAQ, it sounds pretty dope TBH.
Later this fall I'll look to pick up a new GPU, and if I'm really feeling saucy I'll get an NZXT Kraken G12 (in white, natch) and another AIO to cool it. Always wanted to do that with my current build, never got around to it.
Is there something missing on this pc that I'm not seeing? I've been pricing a vr/gaming machine and I don't think I can beat the per dollar value on a pre built like this.
The audio chipset on the motherboard is underwhelming and the included PSU is probably a weak point.
Honestly for $1300 I'm positive we could put together a vastly better parts list, even with the stupid costs of GPUs. Take the parts list I posted, swap to an air cooler, get less ridiculously overpriced RAM, ditch the cable extensions, get a little more budget mobo. That alone probably gives enough room to add a 500 GPU and a nice true 600 watt PSU.
I can work all that up for you later today if you need some help, just got a busy morning.
You could save a couple bucks here and there, and if you already have a Windows 10 license that's another $100 off
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You can still activate Windows 10 with a Windows 7 product key. They've ended the free upgrade program but clean installs and new activations aren't going anywhere, anytime soon.
You can still activate Windows 10 with a Windows 7 product key. They've ended the free upgrade program but clean installs and new activations aren't going anywhere, anytime soon.
That free upgrade repeatedly failed for me the summer they were doing it.
@mts The amd graphic cards have a tendency to be very hot compared to Nvidia. You may want to look at what fans you are getting and consider maybe adding more or upgrading them.
@mts The amd graphic cards have a tendency to be very hot compared to Nvidia. You may want to look at what fans you are getting and consider maybe adding more or upgrading them.
I am not all in on AMD cards tbh, it seemed like a high performing midrange card. was torn between that and 1060 or 1050ti
Also the same with the case. I have always liked the look of those cases, but my requirements are a good dust filter, and airflow
Well shit. My computer didn't like me thinking about replacing it because it's randomly powering off. Seems like it is cpu heavy tasks. The other day my wife said it crashed while encoding videos and today it first happened while trying to load into a dota match. To top it won't even let me book back up. Once it gets to windows goes off.
Well shit. My computer didn't like me thinking about replacing it because it's randomly powering off. Seems like it is cpu heavy tasks. The other day my wife said it crashed while encoding videos and today it first happened while trying to load into a dota match. To top it won't even let me book back up. Once it gets to windows goes off.
Whooo
Check to ensure the CPU cooler is properly installed.
I fixed my crashing in Civ 6 (the only game currently installed in my rig), 100% by running a complete driver uninstall utility in safe mode (DDU), making sure my new drivers were already downloaded, and being sure to disable my internet completely before booting into a normal environment and installing it.
I swear there's always conflicts between Microsoft's automatically downloaded drivers and the official NVIDIA drivers.
i think I have fallen down the rabbit hole. Thinking of now going x370 instead of b350 to get the extra USB slots. whenever I think I found a good board there are tons of bad reviews
was originally thinking the Gigabyte Aorus K5, then the MSI. now I think I am leaning towards the ASRock x370 Killer.
My ongoing saga of EVGA RMA woes continues. The motherboard I paid to have crosshipped but after test fitting in my case and realizing it wasn't going to work has been also been denied. Doing some searching it looks like EVGA has been denying a lot of RMA's for cosmetic and/or minor issues unrelated to the original RMA reason. I'm waiting on a call back from them to hopefully figure out what is going on.
Good chance I'm going to be stuck paying for another motherboard I have no use for. I hate to say it but I don't think I'll be giving EVGA my business anymore.
i think I have fallen down the rabbit hole. Thinking of now going x370 instead of b350 to get the extra USB slots. whenever I think I found a good board there are tons of bad reviews
was originally thinking the Gigabyte Aorus K5, then the MSI. now I think I am leaning towards the ASRock x370 Killer.
I am feeling the pressure of a dying system here.
Keep in mind that the majority of people who leave reviews will leave bad ones. If your motherboard isn't a problem then you tend to forget about it.
My ongoing saga of EVGA RMA woes continues. The motherboard I paid to have crosshipped but after test fitting in my case and realizing it wasn't going to work has been also been denied. Doing some searching it looks like EVGA has been denying a lot of RMA's for cosmetic and/or minor issues unrelated to the original RMA reason. I'm waiting on a call back from them to hopefully figure out what is going on.
Good chance I'm going to be stuck paying for another motherboard I have no use for. I hate to say it but I don't think I'll be giving EVGA my business anymore.
That really sucks. EVGA has long since been my preferred GPU vender, and I've had (comparatively) good experiences with their customer support (given that they're based in the US).
Given you experience, I can hardly blame you. It's hardly one-to-one, but NewEgg was sent me a motherboard in lieu of the CPU fan I ordered about ten years ago, and not being a bad person (and also having been told very firmly by NewEgg that I needed to), I decided to return it--even though they refused to give me a shipping label. I had to repeatedly harangue them over the phone to pay the shipping cost for their error, and I avoided them for most of the decade that followed (it helped that their monopoly on such sales was rapidly breaking up). You do what you need to.
Got off the phone with EVGA and I'm SOL. I'm going to pursue options with my bank and/or UPS shipping insurance. Part of me want to ditch my EVGA 1080 and buy a card from someone else just out of principle, but that's a rather silly financial decision versus the $300 this motherboard fiasco has cost me.
I'm actually debating having the guys working on my PC, ModMyMods, estimate the cost for a full real watercooling setup. That's kind of a last resort if the AOI GPU stuff is bad again, but looking around their shop at the custom work they do makes me want one. The parts themselves aren't that expensive but it would add up fast once I start adding fittings and the labor costs.
i think I have fallen down the rabbit hole. Thinking of now going x370 instead of b350 to get the extra USB slots. whenever I think I found a good board there are tons of bad reviews
was originally thinking the Gigabyte Aorus K5, then the MSI. now I think I am leaning towards the ASRock x370 Killer.
I am feeling the pressure of a dying system here.
Keep in mind that the majority of people who leave reviews will leave bad ones. If your motherboard isn't a problem then you tend to forget about it.
Make sure, ideally by accident, that some blood is spilled in assembly. When I rebuilt my PC a few months ago and did not cut myself. I've been having problems with it ever since.
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shaddap
I'm still on a 680 over here, and with my current income I should be able to afford to upgrade some time in 2063...
Anything more general? like that something that would post silicon lottery sale?
I don't really have a set parts list, more just looking at a price range.
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Then if you know when Cyberpunk will come out, you can continue to save for fourteen years.
I need a bit of advice.
I bought a new system an embarrassingly long time ago and finally had the energy for the last push today.
I had been unable to get it to post, but read the part of the manual that told me the four lights that show what hardware part the start-up is on and concluded that there might be something wrong with the cpu.
Unseated the cooler, cleaned the cpu, installed again and got it to post.
I then tried to flash the latest bios, which went fine until it was done and now the computer hangs on start-up.
It's a MSI board with a readout that tells me it gets to:
60 DXE (driver execution environment) Core is started.
Next step should be 61 NVRAM initialization.
I'm getting the feeling that the Bios flash didn't go well.
I couln't get anything specific on the problem by googling but did find this link on how to recover a bricked MSI motherboard:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=269702.0
Am I right in thinking the problem is the Bios?
I'm willing to try to recover in the way told in the link, but the SSD is buried under the graphics card, and I would like someone elses opinion before I start the process of disconnecting most things from the board.
Any help or advice apriciated.
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Island. Being on fire.
ASRock - Fatal1ty X470 Gaming K4
It's got RGB and ARGB headers, a post code display panel, a rear plate full of USB 3.1/3.2 ports, ARGB sync compatibility with the cooler I'm looking to get, nice neutral color scheme on the board... but essentially no reviews on the internet. Most folks who review ASRock boards are focusing on the Taichi and Taichi Ultimate.
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Tube: This must be what it felt like to be an Iraqi when Saddam was killed
Bookish Stickers - Mrs. Rius' Etsy shop with bumper stickers and vinyl decals.
First mistake was flashing the BIOS unless you had some problem you were trying to fix in the first place.
The SSD shouldn't be that hard to get to, but if is get a bigger case :P And you just have to remove the data cable, you can unplug it from the motherboard side if you have to.
Seems like it's the BIOS and you have nothing to lose if it won't POST or otherwise hangs and nothing else changed.
And yes, the 980 is still a good card. I just have the GTX, and still can run anything at 1080 at high/ultra. I'm sure there are some PC games that I just don't have or don't play that would require some reduced settings, but for what I do play, it is completely sufficient. I had hoped, when I got the card in the first place, that eventually the prices would come down enough to warrant a second 980 to let me skip the 10 series, but I had no idea the whole crypto mining thing would pop up and maintain full launch retail price of old cards. :rotate:
Regardless, for now, I still have a hope that I can last to the next generation.
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I'm still on a 680 as well! It is impressive how well the 680 still holds up actually. I've certainly had my value from it.
To be fair though, I guess i would have upgraded it by now if not for the crypto bubble
Thanks for the reply.
The thing about the SSD was just me ranting about the M.2 being directly under the graphics card and making it a bigger problem than it was.
As it turns out in the cold light of day I looked at the back of the case and the motherboard has a USB marked as BIOSFlashback+.
And after looking in the manual there is a button that flashes the Bios from the file located on a key inserted in this port.
So now the computer works. Yay!
Computet hardware have come a long way since the end of the 90s. I remember having my mind blown when the ports got colour coded.
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Island. Being on fire.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor (Purchased For $180.41)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML240R RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (Purchased For $119.99)
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty X470 Gaming K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard (Purchased For $159.99)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (Purchased For $250.99)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (Purchased For $97.99)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For $59.89)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 980 4GB STRIX Video Card (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C White TG ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $79.99)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 660W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $0.00)
Other: CableMod ModMesh SATA 3 Cable 30cm (white) (Purchased For $9.90)
Other: CableMod PRO ModMesh Cable Extension Kit (Black/White) (Purchased For $51.95)
Total: $1011.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-22 01:04 EDT-0400
Wound up going down to a 250gb 970 Evo, going to set up tiered storage with it and the new 2TB HDD using the StoreMi utility. Watched some vids on the tech and read through the manual/FAQ, it sounds pretty dope TBH.
Later this fall I'll look to pick up a new GPU, and if I'm really feeling saucy I'll get an NZXT Kraken G12 (in white, natch) and another AIO to cool it. Always wanted to do that with my current build, never got around to it.
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http://www.microcenter.com/product/497082/G351_Desktop_Computer
I didn't price it out, but if it checks out in that regard the parts themselves look fine overall.
Honestly for $1300 I'm positive we could put together a vastly better parts list, even with the stupid costs of GPUs. Take the parts list I posted, swap to an air cooler, get less ridiculously overpriced RAM, ditch the cable extensions, get a little more budget mobo. That alone probably gives enough room to add a 500 GPU and a nice true 600 watt PSU.
I can work all that up for you later today if you need some help, just got a busy morning.
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Bookish Stickers - Mrs. Rius' Etsy shop with bumper stickers and vinyl decals.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg Business)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($86.20 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus - Prime Z370-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($161.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($133.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB Video Card ($484.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C TG ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.97 @ Newegg Business)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($95.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1597.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-22 10:16 EDT-0400
You could save a couple bucks here and there, and if you already have a Windows 10 license that's another $100 off
That free upgrade repeatedly failed for me the summer they were doing it.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($64.99 @ Newegg Business)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($164.99 @ Newegg Business)
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 570 4GB ROG STRIX Video Card ($269.89 @ B&H)
Case: NZXT - S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($55.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $815.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-22 13:48 EDT-0400
was probably going to pull my storage from my current rig, maybe even the PSU. Definitely trying to squeeze things out for cheaper
I am not all in on AMD cards tbh, it seemed like a high performing midrange card. was torn between that and 1060 or 1050ti
Also the same with the case. I have always liked the look of those cases, but my requirements are a good dust filter, and airflow
Whooo
I wasn't planning on building a new box this year but if I don't sort this out with the repair guy before I move to Texas this will force my hand.
Check to ensure the CPU cooler is properly installed.
Only thing of use that shows really is the CPU temp and as you note it's fine (assuming that's max, which the GPU load suggests it is).
Is that the temp when it crashes?
I swear there's always conflicts between Microsoft's automatically downloaded drivers and the official NVIDIA drivers.
But doing the above works a treat.
Correct.
Pretty stumped if you've replace everything else! Could be bad RAM (I forgot what was done really). Run some tests on that.
was originally thinking the Gigabyte Aorus K5, then the MSI. now I think I am leaning towards the ASRock x370 Killer.
I am feeling the pressure of a dying system here.
Memory Diagnostic came up clean, so I'm taking it to the shop today.
have you tried playing with your settings to see if that makes a difference? Like set everything to low as possible and see if it goes longer?
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Good chance I'm going to be stuck paying for another motherboard I have no use for. I hate to say it but I don't think I'll be giving EVGA my business anymore.
Keep in mind that the majority of people who leave reviews will leave bad ones. If your motherboard isn't a problem then you tend to forget about it.
I recommend either ASUS or EVGA.
That really sucks. EVGA has long since been my preferred GPU vender, and I've had (comparatively) good experiences with their customer support (given that they're based in the US).
Given you experience, I can hardly blame you. It's hardly one-to-one, but NewEgg was sent me a motherboard in lieu of the CPU fan I ordered about ten years ago, and not being a bad person (and also having been told very firmly by NewEgg that I needed to), I decided to return it--even though they refused to give me a shipping label. I had to repeatedly harangue them over the phone to pay the shipping cost for their error, and I avoided them for most of the decade that followed (it helped that their monopoly on such sales was rapidly breaking up). You do what you need to.
I'm actually debating having the guys working on my PC, ModMyMods, estimate the cost for a full real watercooling setup. That's kind of a last resort if the AOI GPU stuff is bad again, but looking around their shop at the custom work they do makes me want one. The parts themselves aren't that expensive but it would add up fast once I start adding fittings and the labor costs.
EVGA doesn't make AMD socket motherboards.
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