I haven't needed a new drive in a couple of years, and I think I'm finally ready to splurge on a large-size SSD. What's the best interface to go for these days? SATA3? PCIe? Is NVMe a subset of PCIe or some whole other thing?
If I buy a new motherboard, what should I be looking for in order to future-proof drive selection?
On AMD, you want an AM4 socket, as that's the most current processor socket for AMD systems. Intel, on the other hand, seems unwilling to commit to a socket.
Drivewise, you want a board that supports M2 PCIe, which let you use M2 drives on the PCIe bus.
theres like 5 different m2 things currently thats infuriating.
I haven't needed a new drive in a couple of years, and I think I'm finally ready to splurge on a large-size SSD. What's the best interface to go for these days? SATA3? PCIe? Is NVMe a subset of PCIe or some whole other thing?
If I buy a new motherboard, what should I be looking for in order to future-proof drive selection?
On AMD, you want an AM4 socket, as that's the most current processor socket for AMD systems. Intel, on the other hand, seems unwilling to commit to a socket.
Drivewise, you want a board that supports M2 PCIe, which let you use M2 drives on the PCIe bus.
theres like 5 different m2 things currently thats infuriating.
5? I heard of two, what are others?
Near as I can tell there's M2 that can use PCIe specification (the better one) or SATA (basically the same as hardwiring a drive to a sata port)
And on top of that there's 3 different types keying similar to how all the RAM types have different notch locations.
Also, oftentimes the m2 slot will physically share a bus with another port on the motherboard, so using something plugged into a sata port on your mobo may preclude you from being able to use your m2 slot (or vise versa). An impressive number of things about it are not standardized for what is supposed to be a consumer standard.
I haven't needed a new drive in a couple of years, and I think I'm finally ready to splurge on a large-size SSD. What's the best interface to go for these days? SATA3? PCIe? Is NVMe a subset of PCIe or some whole other thing?
If I buy a new motherboard, what should I be looking for in order to future-proof drive selection?
On AMD, you want an AM4 socket, as that's the most current processor socket for AMD systems. Intel, on the other hand, seems unwilling to commit to a socket.
Drivewise, you want a board that supports M2 PCIe, which let you use M2 drives on the PCIe bus.
theres like 5 different m2 things currently thats infuriating.
5? I heard of two, what are others?
Near as I can tell there's M2 that can use PCIe specification (the better one) or SATA (basically the same as hardwiring a drive to a sata port)
And on top of that there's 3 different types keying similar to how all the RAM types have different notch locations.
I haven't needed a new drive in a couple of years, and I think I'm finally ready to splurge on a large-size SSD. What's the best interface to go for these days? SATA3? PCIe? Is NVMe a subset of PCIe or some whole other thing?
If I buy a new motherboard, what should I be looking for in order to future-proof drive selection?
On AMD, you want an AM4 socket, as that's the most current processor socket for AMD systems. Intel, on the other hand, seems unwilling to commit to a socket.
Drivewise, you want a board that supports M2 PCIe, which let you use M2 drives on the PCIe bus.
theres like 5 different m2 things currently thats infuriating.
5? I heard of two, what are others?
Near as I can tell there's M2 that can use PCIe specification (the better one) or SATA (basically the same as hardwiring a drive to a sata port)
And on top of that there's 3 different types keying similar to how all the RAM types have different notch locations.
yea, I still personally believe that unless you have a specific reason to go with a PCI-e NVMe M.2 SSD acronym soup setup, a SATA based 2.5" SSD will be fast enough for 99% of practical applications, and just way less headache.
You say way less headache, but man not having to deal with the wires was great.
The last build I did for work used one of those super mini cases that are the size of a small 5 port switch and just plopping it in, putting on the CPU and fan and closing the case was fucking great.
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
You say way less headache, but man not having to deal with the wires was great.
The last build I did for work used one of those super mini cases that are the size of a small 5 port switch and just plopping it in, putting on the CPU and fan and closing the case was fucking great.
yes, that is why I said specific reasons, which that use case for a M.2 Drive would be useful. but if you're building a standard ATX PC, there isn't a ton of practical advantage.
You say way less headache, but man not having to deal with the wires was great.
The last build I did for work used one of those super mini cases that are the size of a small 5 port switch and just plopping it in, putting on the CPU and fan and closing the case was fucking great.
yes, that is why I said specific reasons, which that use case for a M.2 Drive would be useful. but if you're building a standard ATX PC, there isn't a ton of practical advantage.
Other than it being easier to install and not taking up room in the case.
You say way less headache, but man not having to deal with the wires was great.
The last build I did for work used one of those super mini cases that are the size of a small 5 port switch and just plopping it in, putting on the CPU and fan and closing the case was fucking great.
yes, that is why I said specific reasons, which that use case for a M.2 Drive would be useful. but if you're building a standard ATX PC, there isn't a ton of practical advantage.
For reference, I basically only want to build mini ITX or equivalent-sized HTPCs from now on. Not just to act as HTPCs, but it's nice to have the smaller case and flexibility of moving it wherever I want. So it's not quite to that hide-it-under-a-monitor workstation degree, but I definitely appreciate the reduction in case clutter.
Since my old HTPC board didn't support M.2, I just picked up a conventional SATA drive. I probably would have just juggled SSD space, but I was having some speed issues too (Tekken 7, Skyrim, Vive's The Lab all loading suspiciously slowly), so it felt like the right time to upgrade anyway.
I wish people would stop trying to mine crypto with GPUs. These prices are out of control.
Well Bitcoin has tanked half it's value, so fingers crossed that's some sort of market correction that bleeds into the other crypto currencies, and not a speculative sell-off that's going to rebound in short order.
We're going to need a GPU registry where people can only buy a GPU once a month.
You'd just end up with a bunch of GPU smurfs buying one at a time and reselling to GPU Kingpins (not the EVGA kind).
it'd slow the rolls of the dumbfucks who buy assloads at a time, and it'd keep the retail price closer to MSRP because there wouldn't be shortages constantly
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
I wish people would stop trying to mine crypto with GPUs. These prices are out of control.
Well Bitcoin has tanked half it's value, so fingers crossed that's some sort of market correction that bleeds into the other crypto currencies, and not a speculative sell-off that's going to rebound in short order.
I wish people would stop trying to mine crypto with GPUs. These prices are out of control.
Well Bitcoin has tanked half it's value, so fingers crossed that's some sort of market correction that bleeds into the other crypto currencies, and not a speculative sell-off that's going to rebound in short order.
I wish people would stop trying to mine crypto with GPUs. These prices are out of control.
Well Bitcoin has tanked half it's value, so fingers crossed that's some sort of market correction that bleeds into the other crypto currencies, and not a speculative sell-off that's going to rebound in short order.
Is there a point in using a drive cloning tool, or is Windows File Explorer fine for copying a smaller SSD to a newer, larger SSD?
Edit:
I should specify that I will be removing the older drive entirely and putting it in a different computer, so there's no worry about symlinks or anything, since the new drive will take over the old drive letter.
Is there a point in using a drive cloning tool, or is Windows File Explorer fine for copying a smaller SSD to a newer, larger SSD?
Edit:
I should specify that I will be removing the older drive entirely and putting it in a different computer, so there's no worry about symlinks or anything, since the new drive will take over the old drive letter.
Is this your Windows boot drive?
edit: If yes, then boot to a USB clone utility and use it to clone the drive to the new one. Windows will not properly do that, or even if it could, I wouldn't trust it. Macrium Reflect is free last I checked, if the drive didn't come with one.
Is there a point in using a drive cloning tool, or is Windows File Explorer fine for copying a smaller SSD to a newer, larger SSD?
Edit:
I should specify that I will be removing the older drive entirely and putting it in a different computer, so there's no worry about symlinks or anything, since the new drive will take over the old drive letter.
Is this your Windows boot drive?
edit: If yes, then boot to a USB clone utility and use it to clone the drive to the new one. Windows will not properly do that, or even if it could, I wouldn't trust it. Macrium Reflect is free last I checked, if the drive didn't come with one.
Nah, not even. I just upgraded my data drive to an SSD for game load times. This includes some applications that have metadata in the Windows registry, but I assume all that cares about is the file path.
My initial question left out a lot of that context!
Ah, then yeah, copy it over.
Only concern would be if it's a lot of data, you may want to use a utility just so you have some help in case it gets an error partway through.
Ah, then yeah, copy it over.
Only concern would be if it's a lot of data, you may want to use a utility just so you have some help in case it gets an error partway through.
I would just do a normal file copy if it's an SSD and it's not the system drive, personally.
It took almost 90 minutes, but File Explorer did fine. The only issue was that Oculus apparently uses the drive's GUID instead of drive letter, but it's easy enough to change library locations.
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5? I heard of two, what are others?
Near as I can tell there's M2 that can use PCIe specification (the better one) or SATA (basically the same as hardwiring a drive to a sata port)
And on top of that there's 3 different types keying similar to how all the RAM types have different notch locations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.2#Form_factors_and_keying
M should be the key type that's on most hard drives now, but there are lots of different hardwares that can be keyed for M.2 slots.
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Usage: Current rig was my personal gaming machine in 2007, but was annexed by family as their machines died. :biggrin:
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
I think I've figured it out; excluding older standards for HDDs (like IDE):
So yeah... simple as that???
More or less.
Essentially though, if you want to use M2 for an upgrade, you should be looking at an M keyed NVMe over PCIe SSD.
Those are the key components. The rest you might as well stick with the 2.5" form factor for SSD because they are essentially no different.
The last build I did for work used one of those super mini cases that are the size of a small 5 port switch and just plopping it in, putting on the CPU and fan and closing the case was fucking great.
yes, that is why I said specific reasons, which that use case for a M.2 Drive would be useful. but if you're building a standard ATX PC, there isn't a ton of practical advantage.
Other than it being easier to install and not taking up room in the case.
For reference, I basically only want to build mini ITX or equivalent-sized HTPCs from now on. Not just to act as HTPCs, but it's nice to have the smaller case and flexibility of moving it wherever I want. So it's not quite to that hide-it-under-a-monitor workstation degree, but I definitely appreciate the reduction in case clutter.
Since my old HTPC board didn't support M.2, I just picked up a conventional SATA drive. I probably would have just juggled SSD space, but I was having some speed issues too (Tekken 7, Skyrim, Vive's The Lab all loading suspiciously slowly), so it felt like the right time to upgrade anyway.
Well Bitcoin has tanked half it's value, so fingers crossed that's some sort of market correction that bleeds into the other crypto currencies, and not a speculative sell-off that's going to rebound in short order.
But what if the government decides down the road that it doesn't want it's citizens with GPU's!? #donttreadonme #handsoffourVRAM #idforsureregister
You'd just end up with a bunch of GPU smurfs buying one at a time and reselling to GPU Kingpins (not the EVGA kind).
it'd slow the rolls of the dumbfucks who buy assloads at a time, and it'd keep the retail price closer to MSRP because there wouldn't be shortages constantly
BitCoin has tanked and I've seen a few things where miners are throwing their cards back in the boxes and taking them back to the store for refunds.
I mean I guess water cool all the things, but seriously why?!
And then there's Amazon marketplace vendors selling 6-packs of video cards specifically targeting cryptominers: https://www.pcgamer.com/vendors-on-amazon-now-selling-6-packs-of-gpus-for-cryptocurrency-mining/
edit - apparently it's all kinds of video cards and not just Radeon 570s. I guess it helps to read the article...
Fuck everything about that and everyone involved with it.
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I've given up forty thousand winks over the year-to-date. Does that count?
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No.
This has not happened to me in a long time, but... can you please explain the meaning of this sentence? (to a non-native speaker).
"40 winks" is a euphemism for sleep/napping.
Edit:
I should specify that I will be removing the older drive entirely and putting it in a different computer, so there's no worry about symlinks or anything, since the new drive will take over the old drive letter.
Is this your Windows boot drive?
edit: If yes, then boot to a USB clone utility and use it to clone the drive to the new one. Windows will not properly do that, or even if it could, I wouldn't trust it. Macrium Reflect is free last I checked, if the drive didn't come with one.
Nah, not even. I just upgraded my data drive to an SSD for game load times. This includes some applications that have metadata in the Windows registry, but I assume all that cares about is the file path.
My initial question left out a lot of that context!
Only concern would be if it's a lot of data, you may want to use a utility just so you have some help in case it gets an error partway through.
Hmm, hmm, that's a good point!
It took almost 90 minutes, but File Explorer did fine. The only issue was that Oculus apparently uses the drive's GUID instead of drive letter, but it's easy enough to change library locations.
I'm almost to the point where I'd pick up one of the 850 dollar cards, and that disgusts me.
please tell me crypto is dying and prices are on the verge of collapse?