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  • DalantiaDalantia Registered User regular
    Coffey wrote: »
    Played through & beat Team Four Star RPG in one sitting, which was a F2P ~4 hour game. I have no idea who team Four Star is, or what all of the references were to, but it felt very much like an SNES era RPG. Not overly complicated & a lot of little mistakes throughout the game, like spelling errors, but it wasn't too bad. Disappointed that there wasn't a Steam achievement for beating the game or anything but, eh. Gave me something to do tonight.

    ...

    You should follow up on the whole Team Four Star thing if you haven't already. It is a source of great amusement to me, at least. But I enjoy that kind of humor.

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  • BetsuniBetsuni UM-R60L Talisker IVRegistered User regular
    edited December 2017
    Berylline wrote: »
    Ok, one or two other games, and I'll stop for now.
    Guacamelee (2 copies)

    @Berylline Thank you for this game. Checked and realized I never bought it.

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  • KalnaurKalnaur I See Rain . . . Centralia, WARegistered User regular
    edited December 2017
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Poseidon wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Man, I wish I could just, like, put my computer's specs into Steam so it would stop recommending games that I cannot run at all.

    Especially since they all look so good. :(
    Add to wishlist, play later.

    I mean, this seems overly optimistic about my financial situation and ability to upgrade my PC.

    Not overly. I mean, how long do computers usually last you? Because I think 6 years has been the longest a computer has lasted me. And then you kinda gotta scrounge or knock over a convenience store or rob a bank or something to get a new one.

    And at that point, the game's what, 20 bucks?
    I mean, unless it's Activision, then it's what, 50 bucks?

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  • Big ClassyBig Classy Registered User regular
    Big Classy wrote: »
    SteevL wrote: »
    Big Classy wrote: »
    I've done it! I set out to beat all the previous Assassins Creed main games and buh gawd they're beat! Just finished Unity, it was alright. Not the worst of them but it was definitely in the lower half of AC games that I like. Onwards to Origin!

    Which of the AC games do you consider to be the worst, out of curiosity?

    I'd say the first one, easily.

    I agree. But not to the point that I'd make it sound like it was terrible. I didn't understand the complaints about the game being so 'repetitive'. You're an assassin. Throatstabbing people over and over again is what you do! Then I realised they were talking about the side missions and, yeah.

    Frankly, I would say the reason I most hesitate to replay it at this time is because the newer games have simply added things that made the gameplay more enjoyable. A bit like playing GTAIII after having played, IV. Or even just San Andreas. Perhaps I'll start playing AC3 to earn my Christmas/New Year's achievements.

    The first being the worst is by no means the same as me saying it was terrible. I find all the AC games to be really good fun. Honestly, each one changes things enough that i never felt fatigued by them like I do with Call of Duty, Battlefield or Need for Speed games.

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  • MugsleyMugsley DelawareRegistered User regular
    TeeMan wrote: »
    Mugsley wrote: »
    TeeMan wrote: »
    Having a blast with Card Quest tonight as I've stumbled upon what I think is a super OP combo (please don't nerf). I'm a berzerking, flail-weilding clergy man. Each time I resist damage (with my holy pecs, looking at the card art), my next attack gets +2 damage, which can be stacked 3 times per round for a total of +6. If I chance upon the "Inner Rage" card that's another +2 damage and puts me into berzerker mode where all my attacks do +2.

    Stacking all this together onto the only card I have in my deck that attacks all enemies very weakly now suddenly does an absolutely humongous 12 damage to everyone just ANNIHILATES the AI. It's uncommon to have more than two enemies out of a possible eight having more than 12 health so it's an absolute monster of a combo.

    Fucking top game. Really snuck under the radar there with it's completely low-rent graphical aesthetic, but damn if the gameplay loop isn't completely on point

    Just poking through its Steam page, this game seems like Risk of Rain and Card Hunter had a baby. Is it single character or party combat?

    @mugsley ahh I'm not too sure where the Risk of Rain comparison is coming from, it's a bit more like this -

    You have a choice of 4 different kinds of characters, each with their unique equipment. Equipment and items are unlocked permanently once you've gotten one in a run so you've got plenty to mix and match with.

    There are three campaigns but I've only played one so far so I can't speak for the others. You play an introductory mission and after that it branches off to two and eventually a mix between two and three mission choices as you progress to the end of a 7-misson long campaign. So of the 7 you play, there are something like 8 or 9 missons that you didn't. Each mission completion has a unique unlock per character so the focus squarely on replay value. Once you've finished all three 3rd mission options you can start the campaign from there too to avoid the easy bits.

    The game also provides you a small preview of the kind of unique monsters found in a given mission (something I would KILL for in Darkest Dungeon) so you can spec your build beforehand. A neat twist on this is that when you unlock an item after finishing a mission, you can choose to equip it there and then. So if one item is good for early stages but another good for latter ones, route your campaign through a mission to unlock it and you're free to equip it over your initial choice.

    Combat is turn-based with cards. The key thing is that you don't want to spend all your resources attacking as this'll leave you short for defending and will therefore be walloped. There's also a combo system and a few other things and so far I've found it to be like a backyard pool - shallow where you hop in and deeper the further you go.

    I've barely scratched the surface of character and item combinations for even one of the campaigns. I reckon there's a good 100 hours of lunch break gaming to be found here, it's really good. My only bugbear is that I wish they either spent a lot more or a lot less on the game art. I wonder how easy it'd be to go in and edit it... no workshop support either (yet?)

    Pixel graphics, roguelike, and class choice gave me a Risk of Rain vibe (prior to experiencing gameplay); then I saw a gameplay vid. I think the more apt comparison is Darkest Dungeon + Card Hunter - parties = Card Quest. After I watched the first gameplay vid, the game found its way on my wishlist. Thanks for the discussion!

    TeeMan
  • MugsleyMugsley DelawareRegistered User regular
    Kalnaur wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Poseidon wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Man, I wish I could just, like, put my computer's specs into Steam so it would stop recommending games that I cannot run at all.

    Especially since they all look so good. :(
    Add to wishlist, play later.

    I mean, this seems overly optimistic about my financial situation and ability to upgrade my PC.

    Not overly. I mean, how long do computers usually last you? Because I think 6 years has been the longest a computer has lasted me. And then you kinda gotta scrounge or knock over a convenience store or rob a bank or something to get a new one.

    And at that point, the game's what, 20 bucks?
    I mean, unless it's Activision, then it's what, 50 bucks?

    If you two want to post some specs in the PC Build Thread, we can give you some ideas. While technology marches ever forward, relatively recent components have aged quite well. For example, the i7 2600 from 2011 is only just now bottlenecking recent games. The GPUs are doing *that much* of the heavy lifting. And in regards to GPUs, you can get a GTX 1050 for right around $100 US (or less, if you hunt for sales) that will run most games on moderate settings.

    Also, despite the fact many people approach their PCs like a console (i.e. replace it whole cloth), certain components age quite well. For example, the PSU I bought for my first major build in 2007 is powering my current rig (i5 4th gen; GTX 1080 that I bought after saving up birthday and Christmas gift cards) without a hiccup.

    Caveat: prices are shitty right now because RAM is currently a significant portion of a build budget (but this is expected to fix itself within the next year), and there are new gens of both Intel and AMD CPUs with high demand.

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  • KarozKaroz Registered User regular
    Hupsi is frikken adorable and absolutely free. Great for adults and kids.

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  • HiT BiTHiT BiT 🍒 Fresh, straight from Pac-man's Registered User regular
    SUPERHOT is getting a standalone rogue-like expansion: MIND CONTROL DELETE
    https://youtu.be/mHu8lF3N4HE
    It will be free for current owners of SUPERHOT once it's released from Early Access.

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  • SteevLSteevL What can I do for you? Registered User regular
    HiT BiT wrote: »
    SUPERHOT is getting a standalone rogue-like expansion: MIND CONTROL DELETE
    https://youtu.be/mHu8lF3N4HE
    It will be free for current owners of SUPERHOT once it's released from Early Access.

    Maybe it'll fix my issue of SUPERHOT not running on my PC at all anymore.

  • 21stCentury21stCentury Call me Pixel, or Pix for short! [They/Them]Registered User regular
    the news is
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  • HiT BiTHiT BiT 🍒 Fresh, straight from Pac-man's Registered User regular
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O-hLjRiBoY
    So, apparently this is the closest thing we are getting to a new Valve game.

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  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    This is a thing?

  • IsornIsorn Registered User regular
    The entire line-up of the Yogscast bundle got leaked. It is not 100% guaranteed but it seems likely these games will be in it.
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  • IsornIsorn Registered User regular
    edited December 2017
    http://steamcommunity.com/games/593110/announcements/detail/1464096684955433613
    Steam is no longer supporting Bitcoin

    As of today, Steam will no longer support Bitcoin as a payment method on our platform due to high fees and volatility in the value of Bitcoin.

    In the past few months we've seen an increase in the volatility in the value of Bitcoin and a significant increase in the fees to process transactions on the Bitcoin network. For example, transaction fees that are charged to the customer by the Bitcoin network have skyrocketed this year, topping out at close to $20 a transaction last week (compared to roughly $0.20 when we initially enabled Bitcoin). Unfortunately, Valve has no control over the amount of the fee. These fees result in unreasonably high costs for purchasing games when paying with Bitcoin. The high transaction fees cause even greater problems when the value of Bitcoin itself drops dramatically.

    Historically, the value of Bitcoin has been volatile, but the degree of volatility has become extreme in the last few months, losing as much as 25% in value over a period of days. This creates a problem for customers trying to purchase games with Bitcoin. When checking out on Steam, a customer will transfer x amount of Bitcoin for the cost of the game, plus y amount of Bitcoin to cover the transaction fee charged by the Bitcoin network. The value of Bitcoin is only guaranteed for a certain period of time so if the transaction doesn’t complete within that window of time, then the amount of Bitcoin needed to cover the transaction can change. The amount it can change has been increasing recently to a point where it can be significantly different.

    The normal resolution for this is to either refund the original payment to the user, or ask the user to transfer additional funds to cover the remaining balance. In both these cases, the user is hit with the Bitcoin network transaction fee again. This year, we’ve seen increasing number of customers get into this state. With the transaction fee being so high right now, it is not feasible to refund or ask the customer to transfer the missing balance (which itself runs the risk of underpayment again, depending on how much the value of Bitcoin changes while the Bitcoin network processes the additional transfer).

    At this point, it has become untenable to support Bitcoin as a payment option. We may re-evaluate whether Bitcoin makes sense for us and for the Steam community at a later date.

    We will continue working to resolve any pending issues for customers who are impacted by existing underpayments or transaction fees.

    Shocking.

    Heh.

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  • cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    Bitcoin going the way of the Australian dollar, in Valve's eyes.

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  • Ed GrubermanEd Gruberman Registered User regular
    For those people who want more female characters in their video games, this 2D pixel-art puzzle platformer looks pretty good: Iconoclasts

    https://youtu.be/FnUN19xGIzU

    Comes out January 23

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  • heenatoheenato Alice Leywind Registered User regular
    Hell yeah. I've been waiting for this for years.

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  • KoopahTroopahKoopahTroopah The koopas, the troopas. Philadelphia, PARegistered User regular
    edited December 2017
    HiT BiT wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O-hLjRiBoY
    So, apparently this is the closest thing we are getting to a new Valve game.

    Valve, fuck. I know...*sigh* I know you're a reseller platform now, and not a game studio anymore, but come the fuck on.

    ...I'm totally going to play this still BUT COME ON MAN!

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  • MugsleyMugsley DelawareRegistered User regular
    Portal had sex with Poly Bridge and they made an amazing baby.


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  • SumanaiSumanai muh PTRegistered User regular
    HiT BiT wrote: »
    So, apparently this is the closest thing we are getting to a new Valve game.

    Valve, fuck. I know...*sigh* I know you're a reseller platform now, and not a game studio anymore, but come the fuck on.

    ...I'm totally going to play this still BUT COME ON MAN!

    This is not exactly a Valve game. It's a Portal themed version of Bridge Constructor by Headup Games. Just like we had a Portal table for Pinball FX, the Portal DLC for Defense Grid and a bunch of other Portal themed spinoffs.

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  • KalnaurKalnaur I See Rain . . . Centralia, WARegistered User regular
    Mugsley wrote: »
    Kalnaur wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Poseidon wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Man, I wish I could just, like, put my computer's specs into Steam so it would stop recommending games that I cannot run at all.

    Especially since they all look so good. :(
    Add to wishlist, play later.

    I mean, this seems overly optimistic about my financial situation and ability to upgrade my PC.

    Not overly. I mean, how long do computers usually last you? Because I think 6 years has been the longest a computer has lasted me. And then you kinda gotta scrounge or knock over a convenience store or rob a bank or something to get a new one.

    And at that point, the game's what, 20 bucks?
    I mean, unless it's Activision, then it's what, 50 bucks?

    If you two want to post some specs in the PC Build Thread, we can give you some ideas. While technology marches ever forward, relatively recent components have aged quite well. For example, the i7 2600 from 2011 is only just now bottlenecking recent games. The GPUs are doing *that much* of the heavy lifting. And in regards to GPUs, you can get a GTX 1050 for right around $100 US (or less, if you hunt for sales) that will run most games on moderate settings.

    Also, despite the fact many people approach their PCs like a console (i.e. replace it whole cloth), certain components age quite well. For example, the PSU I bought for my first major build in 2007 is powering my current rig (i5 4th gen; GTX 1080 that I bought after saving up birthday and Christmas gift cards) without a hiccup.

    Caveat: prices are shitty right now because RAM is currently a significant portion of a build budget (but this is expected to fix itself within the next year), and there are new gens of both Intel and AMD CPUs with high demand.

    Generally, I treat my PC as a console because I need it to be portable, so I get the larger laptops, the 17.3-inch ones, usually. Big enough for a full keyboard, but compact enough to pop into a case and take somewhere, with a screen big enough to see mostly what I'm doing, most of the time.

    Eventually I'd be interested in a desktop, I'm sure, but only if it's super portable, which then, why have a desktop PC?

    Though I also don't know the first thing about building a computer, and find even the notion of it daunting in the extreme. :confused:

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  • KoopahTroopahKoopahTroopah The koopas, the troopas. Philadelphia, PARegistered User regular
    Sumanai wrote: »
    HiT BiT wrote: »
    So, apparently this is the closest thing we are getting to a new Valve game.

    Valve, fuck. I know...*sigh* I know you're a reseller platform now, and not a game studio anymore, but come the fuck on.

    ...I'm totally going to play this still BUT COME ON MAN!

    This is not exactly a Valve game. It's a Portal themed version of Bridge Constructor by Headup Games. Just like we had a Portal table for Pinball FX, the Portal DLC for Defense Grid and a bunch of other Portal themed spinoffs.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx32b5igLwA

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  • ToyDToyD Registered User regular
    Kalnaur wrote: »
    Mugsley wrote: »
    Kalnaur wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Poseidon wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Man, I wish I could just, like, put my computer's specs into Steam so it would stop recommending games that I cannot run at all.

    Especially since they all look so good. :(
    Add to wishlist, play later.

    I mean, this seems overly optimistic about my financial situation and ability to upgrade my PC.

    Not overly. I mean, how long do computers usually last you? Because I think 6 years has been the longest a computer has lasted me. And then you kinda gotta scrounge or knock over a convenience store or rob a bank or something to get a new one.

    And at that point, the game's what, 20 bucks?
    I mean, unless it's Activision, then it's what, 50 bucks?

    If you two want to post some specs in the PC Build Thread, we can give you some ideas. While technology marches ever forward, relatively recent components have aged quite well. For example, the i7 2600 from 2011 is only just now bottlenecking recent games. The GPUs are doing *that much* of the heavy lifting. And in regards to GPUs, you can get a GTX 1050 for right around $100 US (or less, if you hunt for sales) that will run most games on moderate settings.

    Also, despite the fact many people approach their PCs like a console (i.e. replace it whole cloth), certain components age quite well. For example, the PSU I bought for my first major build in 2007 is powering my current rig (i5 4th gen; GTX 1080 that I bought after saving up birthday and Christmas gift cards) without a hiccup.

    Caveat: prices are shitty right now because RAM is currently a significant portion of a build budget (but this is expected to fix itself within the next year), and there are new gens of both Intel and AMD CPUs with high demand.

    Generally, I treat my PC as a console because I need it to be portable, so I get the larger laptops, the 17.3-inch ones, usually. Big enough for a full keyboard, but compact enough to pop into a case and take somewhere, with a screen big enough to see mostly what I'm doing, most of the time.

    Eventually I'd be interested in a desktop, I'm sure, but only if it's super portable, which then, why have a desktop PC?

    Though I also don't know the first thing about building a computer, and find even the notion of it daunting in the extreme. :confused:

    It’s really not that bad. You set a budget, pick a cpu, then play match the numbers/hardware sockets until you use up your budget. And omg it’s so fun to put a new pc together. Most of the installing driver pains are a thing of the past... mostly. Now it’s just figuring out how to get windows 10 on a clean disk if you did the free upgrade.

    Laptops are definitely great for portability but being able to upgrade a single part or small subset of parts to improve performance is always great. Plus no bloatware!

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  • Steel AngelSteel Angel Registered User regular
    ToyD wrote: »
    Kalnaur wrote: »
    Mugsley wrote: »
    Kalnaur wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Poseidon wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Man, I wish I could just, like, put my computer's specs into Steam so it would stop recommending games that I cannot run at all.

    Especially since they all look so good. :(
    Add to wishlist, play later.

    I mean, this seems overly optimistic about my financial situation and ability to upgrade my PC.

    Not overly. I mean, how long do computers usually last you? Because I think 6 years has been the longest a computer has lasted me. And then you kinda gotta scrounge or knock over a convenience store or rob a bank or something to get a new one.

    And at that point, the game's what, 20 bucks?
    I mean, unless it's Activision, then it's what, 50 bucks?

    If you two want to post some specs in the PC Build Thread, we can give you some ideas. While technology marches ever forward, relatively recent components have aged quite well. For example, the i7 2600 from 2011 is only just now bottlenecking recent games. The GPUs are doing *that much* of the heavy lifting. And in regards to GPUs, you can get a GTX 1050 for right around $100 US (or less, if you hunt for sales) that will run most games on moderate settings.

    Also, despite the fact many people approach their PCs like a console (i.e. replace it whole cloth), certain components age quite well. For example, the PSU I bought for my first major build in 2007 is powering my current rig (i5 4th gen; GTX 1080 that I bought after saving up birthday and Christmas gift cards) without a hiccup.

    Caveat: prices are shitty right now because RAM is currently a significant portion of a build budget (but this is expected to fix itself within the next year), and there are new gens of both Intel and AMD CPUs with high demand.

    Generally, I treat my PC as a console because I need it to be portable, so I get the larger laptops, the 17.3-inch ones, usually. Big enough for a full keyboard, but compact enough to pop into a case and take somewhere, with a screen big enough to see mostly what I'm doing, most of the time.

    Eventually I'd be interested in a desktop, I'm sure, but only if it's super portable, which then, why have a desktop PC?

    Though I also don't know the first thing about building a computer, and find even the notion of it daunting in the extreme. :confused:

    It’s really not that bad. You set a budget, pick a cpu, then play match the numbers/hardware sockets until you use up your budget. And omg it’s so fun to put a new pc together. Most of the installing driver pains are a thing of the past... mostly. Now it’s just figuring out how to get windows 10 on a clean disk if you did the free upgrade.

    Laptops are definitely great for portability but being able to upgrade a single part or small subset of parts to improve performance is always great. Plus no bloatware!

    How fun it is really depends on how good you are with your hands. Sometimes snaking wires into parts of the case to get them out of the way of fans and whatnot makes me glad I'm as dextrous as I am as someone with fatter fingers would pinch or cut something.

    It's not hard IMO and akin to putting together a larger LEGO set or a Gundam model but some people can find that tough. And wire management and the connectors between the motherboard and case buttons/LEDs can be a bit bewildering for a first time builder.

    I'd peg it as an afternoon into evening project for most people.

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  • JazzJazz Registered User regular
    edited December 2017
    ToyD wrote: »
    Kalnaur wrote: »
    Mugsley wrote: »
    Kalnaur wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Poseidon wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Man, I wish I could just, like, put my computer's specs into Steam so it would stop recommending games that I cannot run at all.

    Especially since they all look so good. :(
    Add to wishlist, play later.

    I mean, this seems overly optimistic about my financial situation and ability to upgrade my PC.

    Not overly. I mean, how long do computers usually last you? Because I think 6 years has been the longest a computer has lasted me. And then you kinda gotta scrounge or knock over a convenience store or rob a bank or something to get a new one.

    And at that point, the game's what, 20 bucks?
    I mean, unless it's Activision, then it's what, 50 bucks?

    If you two want to post some specs in the PC Build Thread, we can give you some ideas. While technology marches ever forward, relatively recent components have aged quite well. For example, the i7 2600 from 2011 is only just now bottlenecking recent games. The GPUs are doing *that much* of the heavy lifting. And in regards to GPUs, you can get a GTX 1050 for right around $100 US (or less, if you hunt for sales) that will run most games on moderate settings.

    Also, despite the fact many people approach their PCs like a console (i.e. replace it whole cloth), certain components age quite well. For example, the PSU I bought for my first major build in 2007 is powering my current rig (i5 4th gen; GTX 1080 that I bought after saving up birthday and Christmas gift cards) without a hiccup.

    Caveat: prices are shitty right now because RAM is currently a significant portion of a build budget (but this is expected to fix itself within the next year), and there are new gens of both Intel and AMD CPUs with high demand.

    Generally, I treat my PC as a console because I need it to be portable, so I get the larger laptops, the 17.3-inch ones, usually. Big enough for a full keyboard, but compact enough to pop into a case and take somewhere, with a screen big enough to see mostly what I'm doing, most of the time.

    Eventually I'd be interested in a desktop, I'm sure, but only if it's super portable, which then, why have a desktop PC?

    Though I also don't know the first thing about building a computer, and find even the notion of it daunting in the extreme. :confused:

    It’s really not that bad. You set a budget, pick a cpu, then play match the numbers/hardware sockets until you use up your budget. And omg it’s so fun to put a new pc together. Most of the installing driver pains are a thing of the past... mostly. Now it’s just figuring out how to get windows 10 on a clean disk if you did the free upgrade.

    Laptops are definitely great for portability but being able to upgrade a single part or small subset of parts to improve performance is always great. Plus no bloatware!

    How fun it is really depends on how good you are with your hands. Sometimes snaking wires into parts of the case to get them out of the way of fans and whatnot makes me glad I'm as dextrous as I am as someone with fatter fingers would pinch or cut something.

    It's not hard IMO and akin to putting together a larger LEGO set or a Gundam model but some people can find that tough. And wire management and the connectors between the motherboard and case buttons/LEDs can be a bit bewildering for a first time builder.

    I'd peg it as an afternoon into evening project for most people.

    I would like to have a punt at building a PC one of these days. I've owned a fair few desktop systems and done basic upgrades to several of them, mostly RAM, HDDs etc although I did upgrade the CPU in my old 486 from an SX-25 to a DX2-66 (awesome!) and popped a couple of video cards in in the 3Dfx era but that's all.

    Right now I'm in a similar situation to Kal's case, which is why I'm also living on big laptops, but while my previous one was bought used and thus had a limited lifespan until new games outpaced its GPU (always the bit that "ages" the fastest; to be fair it punched above its weight a good number of times), my current one was new this summer and pretty high-end so I'm hoping I can get a good few years out of it. It'll need moar RAM (as the old spelling would have it) at some point but I'm hoping I can wait until prices drop a bit from where they are now... which feels like a vain hope as they still seem to be creeping up (and UK sterling volatility with Brexit etc isn't helping). £83 (US$111) for just another 8GB seems a bit over the top to me, so I hope Mugsley's prediction about RAM pricing is right. But for the moment its 8GB seems enough to get by on, and that is at least a bit I can upgrade which is why I didn't mind skimping on it slightly.

    Edit: *has lightbulb moment... starts looking for RAM on Fleabay...*

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  • Steel AngelSteel Angel Registered User regular
    Jazz wrote: »
    ToyD wrote: »
    Kalnaur wrote: »
    Mugsley wrote: »
    Kalnaur wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Poseidon wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Man, I wish I could just, like, put my computer's specs into Steam so it would stop recommending games that I cannot run at all.

    Especially since they all look so good. :(
    Add to wishlist, play later.

    I mean, this seems overly optimistic about my financial situation and ability to upgrade my PC.

    Not overly. I mean, how long do computers usually last you? Because I think 6 years has been the longest a computer has lasted me. And then you kinda gotta scrounge or knock over a convenience store or rob a bank or something to get a new one.

    And at that point, the game's what, 20 bucks?
    I mean, unless it's Activision, then it's what, 50 bucks?

    If you two want to post some specs in the PC Build Thread, we can give you some ideas. While technology marches ever forward, relatively recent components have aged quite well. For example, the i7 2600 from 2011 is only just now bottlenecking recent games. The GPUs are doing *that much* of the heavy lifting. And in regards to GPUs, you can get a GTX 1050 for right around $100 US (or less, if you hunt for sales) that will run most games on moderate settings.

    Also, despite the fact many people approach their PCs like a console (i.e. replace it whole cloth), certain components age quite well. For example, the PSU I bought for my first major build in 2007 is powering my current rig (i5 4th gen; GTX 1080 that I bought after saving up birthday and Christmas gift cards) without a hiccup.

    Caveat: prices are shitty right now because RAM is currently a significant portion of a build budget (but this is expected to fix itself within the next year), and there are new gens of both Intel and AMD CPUs with high demand.

    Generally, I treat my PC as a console because I need it to be portable, so I get the larger laptops, the 17.3-inch ones, usually. Big enough for a full keyboard, but compact enough to pop into a case and take somewhere, with a screen big enough to see mostly what I'm doing, most of the time.

    Eventually I'd be interested in a desktop, I'm sure, but only if it's super portable, which then, why have a desktop PC?

    Though I also don't know the first thing about building a computer, and find even the notion of it daunting in the extreme. :confused:

    It’s really not that bad. You set a budget, pick a cpu, then play match the numbers/hardware sockets until you use up your budget. And omg it’s so fun to put a new pc together. Most of the installing driver pains are a thing of the past... mostly. Now it’s just figuring out how to get windows 10 on a clean disk if you did the free upgrade.

    Laptops are definitely great for portability but being able to upgrade a single part or small subset of parts to improve performance is always great. Plus no bloatware!

    How fun it is really depends on how good you are with your hands. Sometimes snaking wires into parts of the case to get them out of the way of fans and whatnot makes me glad I'm as dextrous as I am as someone with fatter fingers would pinch or cut something.

    It's not hard IMO and akin to putting together a larger LEGO set or a Gundam model but some people can find that tough. And wire management and the connectors between the motherboard and case buttons/LEDs can be a bit bewildering for a first time builder.

    I'd peg it as an afternoon into evening project for most people.

    I would like to have a punt at building a PC one of these days. I've owned a fair few desktop systems and done basic upgrades to several of them, mostly RAM, HDDs etc although I did upgrade the CPU in my old 486 from an SX-25 to a DX2-66 (awesome!) but that's all.

    Before I built my first PC, I'd done some upgrades of disc drives, hard drives, and graphics cards. The only really new thing about a whole system is the aforementioned wire management (power supplies have A LOT of wires) and the wires that connect the motherboard to the case itself. Motherboards and fans aren't really much different from drives, they just have more screws and things to plug in.

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  • KalnaurKalnaur I See Rain . . . Centralia, WARegistered User regular
    If there's really anything that I need upgraded, it's my GPU. GTX 765M isn't exactly amazing, though it handled DOOM like a champ. I don't know if MSI is just good at putting together good computers or if it's the i7 CPU/12 GB of RAM I have or what, but it's chugging along handily.

    Meanwhile, my wife's new 'puter is an MSI that's similar specs to mine, but a GTX1060 and .2Ghz more processor speed and an SSD for loading the OS, and she's barely gotten to play anything on it at all. :wink:

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  • JazzJazz Registered User regular
    edited December 2017
    Jazz wrote: »
    ToyD wrote: »
    Kalnaur wrote: »
    Mugsley wrote: »
    Kalnaur wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Poseidon wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Man, I wish I could just, like, put my computer's specs into Steam so it would stop recommending games that I cannot run at all.

    Especially since they all look so good. :(
    Add to wishlist, play later.

    I mean, this seems overly optimistic about my financial situation and ability to upgrade my PC.

    Not overly. I mean, how long do computers usually last you? Because I think 6 years has been the longest a computer has lasted me. And then you kinda gotta scrounge or knock over a convenience store or rob a bank or something to get a new one.

    And at that point, the game's what, 20 bucks?
    I mean, unless it's Activision, then it's what, 50 bucks?

    If you two want to post some specs in the PC Build Thread, we can give you some ideas. While technology marches ever forward, relatively recent components have aged quite well. For example, the i7 2600 from 2011 is only just now bottlenecking recent games. The GPUs are doing *that much* of the heavy lifting. And in regards to GPUs, you can get a GTX 1050 for right around $100 US (or less, if you hunt for sales) that will run most games on moderate settings.

    Also, despite the fact many people approach their PCs like a console (i.e. replace it whole cloth), certain components age quite well. For example, the PSU I bought for my first major build in 2007 is powering my current rig (i5 4th gen; GTX 1080 that I bought after saving up birthday and Christmas gift cards) without a hiccup.

    Caveat: prices are shitty right now because RAM is currently a significant portion of a build budget (but this is expected to fix itself within the next year), and there are new gens of both Intel and AMD CPUs with high demand.

    Generally, I treat my PC as a console because I need it to be portable, so I get the larger laptops, the 17.3-inch ones, usually. Big enough for a full keyboard, but compact enough to pop into a case and take somewhere, with a screen big enough to see mostly what I'm doing, most of the time.

    Eventually I'd be interested in a desktop, I'm sure, but only if it's super portable, which then, why have a desktop PC?

    Though I also don't know the first thing about building a computer, and find even the notion of it daunting in the extreme. :confused:

    It’s really not that bad. You set a budget, pick a cpu, then play match the numbers/hardware sockets until you use up your budget. And omg it’s so fun to put a new pc together. Most of the installing driver pains are a thing of the past... mostly. Now it’s just figuring out how to get windows 10 on a clean disk if you did the free upgrade.

    Laptops are definitely great for portability but being able to upgrade a single part or small subset of parts to improve performance is always great. Plus no bloatware!

    How fun it is really depends on how good you are with your hands. Sometimes snaking wires into parts of the case to get them out of the way of fans and whatnot makes me glad I'm as dextrous as I am as someone with fatter fingers would pinch or cut something.

    It's not hard IMO and akin to putting together a larger LEGO set or a Gundam model but some people can find that tough. And wire management and the connectors between the motherboard and case buttons/LEDs can be a bit bewildering for a first time builder.

    I'd peg it as an afternoon into evening project for most people.

    I would like to have a punt at building a PC one of these days. I've owned a fair few desktop systems and done basic upgrades to several of them, mostly RAM, HDDs etc although I did upgrade the CPU in my old 486 from an SX-25 to a DX2-66 (awesome!) but that's all.

    Before I built my first PC, I'd done some upgrades of disc drives, hard drives, and graphics cards. The only really new thing about a whole system is the aforementioned wire management (power supplies have A LOT of wires) and the wires that connect the motherboard to the case itself. Motherboards and fans aren't really much different from drives, they just have more screws and things to plug in.

    A friend of mine in the States recently bought a new PC, desktop. He got it built for him by a local-to-him place, and when I saw pictures of it I just grinned; the thing is in the most nondescript, boring looking tower I can imagine, not even minimalist chic, but it's the real deal inside. Coffee Lake CPU, 1080, etc, but it looks like it was bought at an office clearance sale. It's a sleeper. It was a deliberate choice. I have to say, I like his style. "She may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts, kid", and all that. Now he just needs to make a "few special modifications [him]self" and we can truly call it the Falcon.

    I've told him he should find an old 3.5" floppy drive to put in it just to make it look even less like a modern gaming PC. He made a point of putting a DVD drive in it, despite knowing he'll probably never use it.

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    Kalnaur wrote: »
    If there's really anything that I need upgraded, it's my GPU. GTX 765M isn't exactly amazing, though it handled DOOM like a champ. I don't know if MSI is just good at putting together good computers or if it's the i7 CPU/12 GB of RAM I have or what, but it's chugging along handily.

    Meanwhile, my wife's new 'puter is an MSI that's similar specs to mine, but a GTX1060 and .2Ghz more processor speed and an SSD for loading the OS, and she's barely gotten to play anything on it at all. :wink:

    Yeah, I recall yours was a little bit ahead of my old one. Is that 765M soldered in, or could you upgrade it to a 780M or something? That would give it a bit of a boost if you could. The i7 (not sure which gen you have but I'd guess at 3rd?) and the 12GB is still enough for most stuff. The GPU is always where these things start bottlenecking first. The 1060 is definitely where her machine has a massive advantage.

    I think Doom was supposed to be a pretty well-optimized game if I remember right.

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    The entire line-up of the Yogscast bundle got leaked. It is not 100% guaranteed but it seems likely these games will be in it.
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    Hmm tough call, I'm not sure now knowing all the games (assuming it is correct) if I would grab it. Still charity would be good and there are a couple things I'm interested but I'm still undecided.

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    For those wanting to build a PC I suggest watching a bunch of step by step build videos on youtube. They're really helpful.

    I think the hardest part for me was installing the front panel connectors due to their size and the fact that one of mine was mislabeled, but it's just trial and error

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    12.6 seconds

    So, slower than normal?

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    Heatwave wrote: »
    For those wanting to build a PC I suggest watching a bunch of step by step build videos on youtube. They're really helpful.

    I think the hardest part for me was installing the front panel connectors due to their size and the fact that one of mine was mislabeled, but it's just trial and error

    Most of the stuff only goes in one way. You just need to be careful that you don't break it by trying to shove it in there. the only thing that should require any amount of force is maybe the CPU fan standoffs

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    Spoit wrote: »
    Heatwave wrote: »
    For those wanting to build a PC I suggest watching a bunch of step by step build videos on youtube. They're really helpful.

    I think the hardest part for me was installing the front panel connectors due to their size and the fact that one of mine was mislabeled, but it's just trial and error

    Most of the stuff only goes in one way. You just need to be careful that you don't break it by trying to shove it in there. the only thing that should require any amount of force is maybe the CPU fan standoffs

    It's sort of a really expensive way of fitting square pegs into square holes, round pegs into round ones, etc, when it comes down to it.

  • KalnaurKalnaur I See Rain . . . Centralia, WARegistered User regular
    Jazz wrote: »
    Kalnaur wrote: »
    If there's really anything that I need upgraded, it's my GPU. GTX 765M isn't exactly amazing, though it handled DOOM like a champ. I don't know if MSI is just good at putting together good computers or if it's the i7 CPU/12 GB of RAM I have or what, but it's chugging along handily.

    Meanwhile, my wife's new 'puter is an MSI that's similar specs to mine, but a GTX1060 and .2Ghz more processor speed and an SSD for loading the OS, and she's barely gotten to play anything on it at all. :wink:

    Yeah, I recall yours was a little bit ahead of my old one. Is that 765M soldered in, or could you upgrade it to a 780M or something? That would give it a bit of a boost if you could. The i7 (not sure which gen you have but I'd guess at 3rd?) and the 12GB is still enough for most stuff. The GPU is always where these things start bottlenecking first. The 1060 is definitely where her machine has a massive advantage.

    I think Doom was supposed to be a pretty well-optimized game if I remember right.

    I've never even looked inside, so I have no clue if it could be upgraded. I've always assumed laptops aren't upgradable and stuck with that.

    And yeah, I remember DOOM being well-optimized. Almost in direct opposition to ARK.

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    Kalnaur wrote: »
    Jazz wrote: »
    Kalnaur wrote: »
    If there's really anything that I need upgraded, it's my GPU. GTX 765M isn't exactly amazing, though it handled DOOM like a champ. I don't know if MSI is just good at putting together good computers or if it's the i7 CPU/12 GB of RAM I have or what, but it's chugging along handily.

    Meanwhile, my wife's new 'puter is an MSI that's similar specs to mine, but a GTX1060 and .2Ghz more processor speed and an SSD for loading the OS, and she's barely gotten to play anything on it at all. :wink:

    Yeah, I recall yours was a little bit ahead of my old one. Is that 765M soldered in, or could you upgrade it to a 780M or something? That would give it a bit of a boost if you could. The i7 (not sure which gen you have but I'd guess at 3rd?) and the 12GB is still enough for most stuff. The GPU is always where these things start bottlenecking first. The 1060 is definitely where her machine has a massive advantage.

    I think Doom was supposed to be a pretty well-optimized game if I remember right.

    I've never even looked inside, so I have no clue if it could be upgraded. I've always assumed laptops aren't upgradable and stuck with that.

    And yeah, I remember DOOM being well-optimized. Almost in direct opposition to ARK.

    Laptops can usually take at least some limited upgrades. CPUs, usually not. RAM and storage, usually but not always, but bigger form factors are more likely to let you, especially 17" gaming laptops. When it comes to GPUs, some models will let you, older ones at least. I don't know of any current ones that can, I think they've all gone soldered now. Your machine's relative age may well be a plus point here.

    The GPU on my old one (the one with the AMD 6990M) was on a small daughterboard - I forget the name of the form factor, but it has one, it's standardised at least to a point - and it had an edge connector like any other card. Just unscrew a single screw and the whole thing could be pulled right out. (I actually had to do that once when the laptop stopped recognising it; it just needed reseating for some weird reason.) I know for a fact there was a 780M board that could fit into that machine, although it apparently took some serious fiddling with hacked drivers or something to get it to work because that laptop wasn't expecting such a then-new card so it wasn't officially supported, so I didn't attempt it. Yours already having a GTX 7xx series GPU would probably be perfectly fine, probably wouldn't even need to fiddle with drivers (I may of course be utterly wrong on that last point). If, to reiterate, it's not soldered in.

    There's a laptops thread over in the Tech subforum where people far more knowledgeable than I might be able to help. Of course there's the PC build thread as well but that tends to be more about desktops for obvious reasons.

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    My Predator lets me upgrade RAM (which I upgrades to 32gb when I bought it) and storage. I've heard people access the CPU but it's not under the upgrade covered area.

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