Thanks to
@Tenzytile for reminding me! It's that time again, when creative people start telling other creative people how good a job they're doing. 2017 was a legitimately great year for quality cinema, with a fresh and sorely-needed emphasis on diverse talent on both sides of the camera. The best thing I see about this year is how so many of the films are waaaay outside the traditional MPAAS wheelhouse and come from voices sorely underrepresented in media, while also many of those film directly confront topical and heady subjects, like the importance of the First Amendment, finding yourself as a young queer person, racism, and normalized sexual abuse; there's still plenty of room in there for legitimately novel comedies and some more familiar fare in terms of family dramas and coming-of-age stories, but even those turn convention on its head in many ways.
Without further ado, here's a list of the most talked-about films this season, and here in this thread feel free to discuss those you've seen and lament the ones you haven't. At the bottom of the OP will be a continuously-updated list of the various award nominees and winners, so check back when you're not busy at the movies.
Top films in contention:- Lady Bird
- Call Me By Your Name
- The Post
- Dunkirk
- The Disaster Artist
- The Florida Project
- Get Out
- Logan Lucky
- Mudbound
- The Big Sick
- The Meyerowitz Stories
- Wind River
- Three Billboards Outside of Ebbing, Missouri
- I, Tonya
- Good Time
- Blade Runner 2049
- Logan (I know, right?)
- The Shape of WaterForeign films in contention:- A Fantastic WomanAnimated films:
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Coco
- Loving Vincent
- The BreadwinnerActing performances:
- Saoirse Ronan,
Lady Bird
- Tom Hanks,
The Post
- Meryl Streep,
The Post
- Armie Hammer,
Call Me By Your Name
- Timothée Chalamet,
Call Me By Your Name
- Mary J. Blige,
Mudbound
- James Franco,
The Disaster Artist
- Willem Dafoe,
The Florida Project
- Adam Sandler,
The Meyerowitz Stories
- Jeremy Renner,
Wind River
- Frances McDormand,
Three Billboards Outside of Ebbing, Missouri
- Margot Robbie,
I, Tonya
- Patrick Stewart,
Logan
- Daniel Craig,
Logan Lucky
- Harry Dean Stanton,
Lucky
- Jessica Chastain,
Molly's Game
- Daniela Vega,
A Fantastic Woman
- Sally Hawkins,
The Shape of Water
- Colin Ferrell,
The Killing of a Sacred DeerDirection:
- Steven Spielberg,
The Post
- Greta Gerwig,
Lady Bird
- James Franco,
The Disaster Artist
- Taylor Sheridan,
Wind River
- Steven Soderberg,
Logan Lucky
- Patty Jenkins,
Wonder Woman
- Denis Villeneuve,
Blade Runner 2049
- Jordan Peele,
Get Out
- Sean Baker,
The Florida Project
- Martin McDonagh,
Three Billboards Outside of Ebbing, Missouri
- Christopher Nolan,
Dunkirk
- Guillermo del Toro,
The Shape of Water
Awards, Winners and Nominees:
Gotham Awards:
Best Actor
NOMINEES:
The Florida Project: Willem Dafoe
The Disaster Artist: James Franco
Get Out: Daniel Kaluuya
Good Time: Robert Pattinson
The Meyerowitz Stories (New and Selected): Adam Sandler
Lucky: Harry Dean Stanton
Best Actress
NOMINEES:
I Don't Feel at Home in This World Anymore.: Melanie Lynskey
Columbus: Haley Lu Richardson
I, Tonya: Margot Robbie
Lady Bird: Saoirse Ronan
Marjorie Prime: Lois Smith
Best Screenplay
NOMINEES:
The Big Sick: Kumail Nanjiani, Emily V. Gordon
Brad's Status: Mike White
Call Me by Your Name: James Ivory
Columbus: Kogonada
Get Out: Jordan Peele
Lady Bird: Greta Gerwig
Best Documentary
NOMINEES:
Ex Libris: New York Public Library: Frederick Wiseman
Rat Film: Theo Anthony, Riel Roch Decter, Sebastian Pardo
Strong Island: Yance Ford, Joslyn Barnes
Whose Streets?: Sabaah Folayan, Damon Davis, Jennifer MacArthur, Flannery Miller
The Work: Jairus McLeary, Gethin Aldous, Alice Henty, Eon McLeary, Miles McLeary
Best Feature
NOMINEES:
Call Me by Your Name: Luca Guadagnino, Peter Spears, Emilie Georges, Rodrigo Teixeira, Marco Morabito, James Ivory, Howard Rosenman
The Florida Project: Sean Baker, Chris Bergoch, Kevin Chinoy, Andrew Duncan, Alex Saks, Francesca Silvestri, Shih-Ching Tsou
Get Out: Jordan Peele, Sean McKittrick, Jason Blum, Edward H. Hamm Jr.
Good Time: Josh Safdie, Benny Safdie, Paris Kasidokostas Latsis, Terry Dougas, Sebastian Bear-McClard, Oscar Boyson
I, Tonya: Craig Gillespie, Bryan Unkeless, Steven Rogers, Margot Robbie, Tom Ackerley
Bingham Ray Breakthrough Director Award
NOMINEES
Novitiate: Margaret Betts
Lady Bird: Greta Gerwig
Columbus: Kogonada
Get Out: Jordan Peele
Menashe: Joshua Z Weinstein
Special Gotham Jury Award
Best Ensemble Performance:
Mudbound: Carey Mulligan, Garrett Hedlund, Jason Clarke, Jason Mitchell, Mary J. Blige, Rob Morgan, Jonathan Banks
Golden Globe Nominees:Best Motion Picture - Drama
Call Me by Your Name
Dunkirk
The Post
The Shape of Water
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
Best Motion Picture - Musical or Comedy
The Disaster Artist
Get Out
The Greatest Showman
I, Tonya
Lady Bird
Best Performance by an Actor in a Motion Picture - Drama
Timothee Chalamet, Call Me by Your Name
Daniel Day-Lewis, Phantom Thread
Tom Hanks, The Post
Gary Oldman, Darkest Hour
Denzel Washington, Roman J. Israel, Esq.
Best Performance by an Actress in a Motion Picture - Drama
Jessica Chastain, Molly's Game
Sally Hawkins, The Shape of Water
Frances McDormand, Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
Meryl Streep, The Post
Michelle Williams, All the Money in the World
Best Performance by an Actor in a Motion Picture - Musical or Comedy
Steve Carell, Battle of the Sexes
Ansel Elgort, Baby Driver
James Franco, The Disaster Artist
Hugh Jackman, The Greatest Showman
Daniel Kaluuya, Get Out
Best Performance by an Actress in a Motion Picture - Musical or Comedy
Judi Dench, Victoria & Abdul
Helen Mirren, The Leisure Seeker
Margot Robbie, I, Tonya
Saoirse Ronan, Lady Bird
Emma Stone, Battle of the Sexes
Best Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role in Any Motion Picture
Willem Dafoe, The Florida Project
Armie Hammer, Call Me by Your Name
Richard Jenkins, The Shape of Water
Christopher Plummer, All the Money in the World
Sam Rockwell, Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
Best Performance by an Actress in a Supporting Role in Any Motion Picture
Mary J. Blige, Mudbound
Hong Chau, Downsizing
Allison Janney, I, Tonya
Laurie Metcalf, Lady Bird
Octavia Spencer, The Shape of Water
Best Director - Motion Picture
Guillermo del Toro, The Shape of Water
Martin McDonagh, Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
Christopher Nolan, Dunkirk
Ridley Scott, All the Money in the World
Steven Spielberg, The Post
Best Screenplay - Motion Picture
Guillermo del Toro & Vanessa Taylor, The Shape of Water
Greta Gerwig, Lady Bird
Liz Hannah & Josh Singer, The Post
Martin McDonagh, Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
Aaron Sorkin, Molly's Game
Best Original Score - Motion Picture
Carter Burwell, Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
Alexandre Desplat, The Shape of Water
Jonny Greenwood, Phantom Thread
John Williams, The Post
Hans Zimmer, Dunkirk
Best Original Song - Motion Picture
"Remember Me," Coco
"This Is Me," The Greatest Showman
"Home," Ferdinand
"Mighty River," Mudbound
"The Star," The Star
Best Animated Feature Film
The Boss Baby
The Breadwinner
Coco
Ferdinand
Loving Vincent
Best Foreign-Language Film
A Fantastic Woman
First They Killed My Father
In the Fade
Loveless
The Square
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Is it a bad sign if I've only even heard of the ones based on comic books? Because I'm usually better at this
Okja
Colossal
Mother!
A Ghost Story
The Square
The Killing of a Sacred Deer
Mother! is a movie I'd love to see get awards.
Logan is going to get shafted in anything that isn't special effects.
A film capable of masterfully producing such an awful emotional response, followed by days of unpacking, is art.
It may not be enjoyable, and the critics / masses may have panned it horribly, but it should be recognized.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
What a bizarre world we live in.
-I hope The Florida Project gets a bunch of nominations
-Edit: also hoping to see In a Heartbeat get nominated for best animated short:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=2REkk9SCRn0
Black-ish vs Master of None for TV comedy is one. Black-ish is basically the best family sitcom on TV. It's basically TV's most tired trope, but honed to a mirror polish. And Master of None's second season was a hell of a thing that went some crazy places. Some of the best damn writing on any TV show, and some seriously high concept episodes.
The tv drama actor category also hasthis set:
Sterling K. Brown, “This Is Us"
Freddie Highmore, “The Good Doctor"
Bob Odenkirk, “Better Call Saul"
Seriously, any one of those 3 is an easy win most years.
The Boss Baby? Really?
We all know how bad the Globes are; it's a bunch of foreign starfuckers trying to throw a party where celebrities show up, and if it wasn't open bar it probably wouldn't ever happen. This year the Globes err more on the safe side than the laughably awful side, and the nominations broadly are very expected. Saying that, I find it interesting how big a boost this has given to The Shape of Water (which hopefully I'm seeing tonight), and how many nominations The Greatest Showman received for a movie that has zero buzz and hasn't been widely released in many markets. As well, there's a nomination on here for Ansel Elgort in Baby Driver that is Pia Zadora-levels of perplexing; Elgort was the least dynamic and interesting part of that film, and the film itself was merely okay, and Carrell, Elgort, and Jackman's nominations really look like the HFPA having trouble coming up with comedy/musical nominations other than Franco and Kaluuya.
Anyway, Globes gonna Globes, and it's best not to waste too much energy on the shoulda/coulda.
At least the three best-reviewed animated films made the list
That's about all you can ask here
I wasn't even big on it, but The Big Sick is right there.
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That's more to do with Horror being treated as a second class genre at awards shows so the studios submit as comedy.
If the MPAAS can move to a 10-film field, I don't know why the HFPA can't
unless it enjoys watching us have these conversations every year
Films nominated for GG Awards that are not yet released or not widely-released:
- I, Tonya
- The Post
- The Greatest Showman
- Ferdinand
- Downsizing
- Molly's Game
- All the Money in the World
- Phantom Thread
As well, The Shape of Water and The Disaster Artist were only released three days ago, well after all the voting had been finalized. How even the slightest pretense of consensus can be reached, I have no idea.
It's funny in that sort of extremely uncomfortable collar-tugging feeling you get when you see someone doing something you once did that you now know is really awful way.
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Those sure are some opinions they have
James McAvoy for Best Actor in Split
The implications are not a good look for them this year.
It's a horror with comedic elements, and one of the scariest movies this year.
I look over most of the nominations, and I really can't say I am surprised, but I am disappointed.
I guess I need to see The Shape of Water
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
WINNER: Nicole Kidman, Big Little Lies
Reese Witherspoon, Big Little Lies
Jessica Lange, Feud: Bette and Joan
Susan Sarandon, Feud: Bette and Joan
Jessica Biel, The Sinner
Best supporting actor in a motion picture (drama)
Willem Dafoe, The Florida Project
Armie Hammer, Call Me by Your Name
Richard Jenkins, The Shape of Water
WINNER: Sam Rockwell, Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
Christopher Plummer, All the Money in the World
Best actress in a TV series (musical/comedy)
Pamela Adlon, Better Things
Alison Brie, GLOW
WINNER: Rachel Brosnahan, The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel
Issa Rae, Insecure
Frankie Shaw, SMILF
Best actress in a TV series (drama)
WINNER: Elisabeth Moss, The Handmaid’s Tale
Claire Foy, The Crown
Katherine Langford, 13 Reasons Why
Maggie Gyllenhaal, The Deuce
Caitriona Balfe, Outlander
Best actor in a TV series (drama)
Freddie Highmore, The Good Doctor
WINNER: Sterling K. Brown, This Is Us
Bob Odenkirk, Better Call Saul
Jason Bateman, Ozark
Liev Schreiber, Ray Donovan
Best TV series (drama)
WINNER: The Handmaid’s Tale
This Is Us
The Crown
Game of Thrones
Stranger Things
Best supporting actor in a series, limited series or TV film
Christian Slater, Mr. Robot
David Harbour, Stranger Things
Alfred Molina, Feud: Bette and Joan
WINNER: Alexander Skarsgård, Big Little Lies
David Thewlis, Fargo
Best Original Score
Carter Burwell, Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
WINNER: Alexandre Desplat, The Shape of Water
Jonny Greenwood, Phantom Thread
John Williams, The Post
Hans Zimmer, Dunkirk
Best original song
Home, Ferdinand
Mighty River, Mudboumd
Remember Me, Coco
The Star, The Star
WINNER: This Is Me, The Greatest Showman
Best actor (comedy/musical)
Steve Carell, Battle of the Sexes
Ansel Elgort, Baby Driver
WINNER: James Franco, The Disaster Artist
Hugh Jackman, The Greatest Showman
Daniel Kaluuya, Get Out
Best supporting actress in a series, limited series or TV film
WINNER: Laura Dern, Big Little Lies
Ann Dowd, The Handmaid’s Tale
Chrissy Metz, This Is Us
Michelle Pfeiffer, The Wizard of Lies
Shailene Woodley, Big Little Lies
Best animated film
The Boss Baby
The Breadwinner
WINNER: Coco
Ferdinand
Loving Vincent
Best supporting actress in a motion picture (drama)
Mary J. Blige, Mudbound
Hong Chau, Downsizing
WINNER: Allison Janney, I, Tonya
Laurie Metcalf, Lady Bird
Octavia Spencer, The Shape of Water
Best screenplay
The Shape of Water
Lady Bird
WINNER: Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
The Post
Molly’s Game
Best foreign film
A Fantastic Woman
First They Killed My Father
WINNER: In the Fade
Loveless
The Square
Best actor in a miniseries or TV movie
Robert De Niro, The Wizard of Lies
Kyle MacLachlan, Twin Peaks
Jude Law, The Young Pope
WINNER: Ewan McGregor, Fargo
Geoffrey Rush, Genius
Best TV series (comedy)
Black-ish
WINNER: The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel
Master of None
SMILF
Will & Grace
Best actor in a TV series (musical/comedy)
Anthony Anderson, Black-ish
WINNER: Aziz Ansari, Master of None
Kevin Bacon, I Love Dick
William H. Macy, Shameless
Eric McCormack, Will & Grace
Best film director
WINNER: Guillermo del Toro, The Shape of Water
Martin McDonagh, Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
Christopher Nolan, Dunkirk
Ridley Scott, All the Money in the World
Steven Spielberg, The Post
Best miniseries or TV movie
WINNER: Big Little Lies
Feud: Bette and Joan
Fargo
Top of the Lake: China Girl
The Sinner
Best actress in a film (comedy/musical)
Judi Dench, Victoria & Abdul
Margot Robbie, I, Tonya
WINNER: Saoirse Ronan, Lady Bird
Emma Stone, Battle of the Sexes
Helen Mirren, The Leisure Seeker
Best film (comedy/musical)
The Disaster Artist
Get Out
The Greatest Showman
I, Tonya
WINNER: Lady Bird
Best actor (drama)
Timothée Chalamet, Call Me by Your Name
Denzel Washington, Roman J. Israel, Esq.
Tom Hanks, The Post
Daniel Day-Lewis, Phantom Thread
WINNER: Gary Oldman, Darkest Hour
Best actress (drama)
Jessica Chastain, Molly’s Game
Sally Hawkins, The Shape of Water
WINNER: Frances McDormand, Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
Meryl Streep, The Post
Michelle Williams, All the Money in the World
Best film (drama)
Dunkirk
The Post
The Shape of Water
Call Me by Your Name
WINNER: Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
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I can't believe James Franco won an award for that Room movie.
I'm so glad Coco won an award, that movie was fantastic.
I should probably watch Big Little Lies.
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The best part of Franco winning that award is that he brought Tommy Wiseau on stage during his acceptance, and Tommy tried to talk on the mic and franco blocked him and shot him a "dude..." look. then franco did an impersonation of Wiseau with Wiseau standing there unable to talk.
It was so good.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
That sounds kind of mean spirited?
I just watched a clip of it. I think it was just James trying to stop Tommy from saying something stupid, and James knew he only had a 90s for his speech. He was cutting it close without Tommy giving a speech too, lol.
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Ron Howard: “We are honored to be here to present the award for Best Director.”
Natalie Portman: “And here are the all male nominees.”
I haven’t seen Oprah’s speech yet, but my social media was clogged this morning with people demanding she run for President of the US, so I’m guessing it was pretty good. I’ll have to give it a watch tomorrow.
And it's not like Tommy's getting the award for The Room. This was James' time in the spotlight.
I loved how visibly uncomfortable that comment made all the nominees.
Ron Howard going from a cheerfully shocked laugh to an awkwardly grinning “oh shit she’s right” nod really makes it for me.
Well, that's just because... You know, it was one of the best movies of the year at... everything... except dir...ecting?
As usual the focus is on who gets nominated and not who gets directing jobs in the first place—this is not a situation where half the movies are directed by women and the HFPA is just sexist. There isn’t parity to begin with, and although recognition of female talent through awards is certainly helpful, it really shouldn’t be the primary means of solving the problem.