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[Mafia de Cuba] Don don don. (Game On!)

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  • EgosEgos Registered User regular
    edited December 7
    So @Egos since all the diamonds were in the box when you saw it, and you must've taken a loyal henchman token, what token did jdarksun take?
    I wanted to post a cool GIF, but alas maybe later. There was one less Agent.

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    Egos on
  • EgosEgos Registered User regular
    There were only 2 loyal henchman cards when I got the box. I'm...not exactly sure how that happened. An aside

  • RingoRingo Stardust, Golden Caught in a Devil's BargainRegistered User regular
    Well now, Bluecyan vs Egos on that claim

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  • MrTLiciousMrTLicious Registered User regular
    Egos wrote: »
    There were only 2 loyal henchman cards when I got the box. I'm...not exactly sure how that happened. An aside

    pssst, read the special rules for the first player!

  • EgosEgos Registered User regular
    MrTLicious wrote: »
    Egos wrote: »
    There were only 2 loyal henchman cards when I got the box. I'm...not exactly sure how that happened. An aside

    pssst, read the special rules for the first player!

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  • Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    edited December 7
    Interesting. So to only get two Henchman by the second player, the first player would have to take a henchmen, and then dispose of one? Why would you want fewer players on your own team?

    So this would leave Egos seeing a box of X Diamonds, 2 Henchmen, 2 Agents, 2 Drivers? If that's the case, then if Blue is telling the truth, of Egos and MrT on should be a driver and the other the jewel thief?

    Edit: Which would put MrT as either a jewel thief, or a driver to a jewel thief. I don't want to go too far down the trust Bluecyan rabbit hole, though. Just playing out the entire scenario.

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  • MrTLiciousMrTLicious Registered User regular
    Alternatively, Egos is lying about what he saw in the box.

    Zombie HeroAuralynxEgos
  • MrTLiciousMrTLicious Registered User regular
    It strikes me as odd that someone would take a henchman and then make it less likely for other people to become henchmen.

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  • AuralynxAuralynx Super-Classy Crow On Silk!Registered User regular
    MrTLicious wrote: »
    Alternatively, Egos is lying about what he saw in the box.

    His version is, uh, improbable given what I saw.

    Or several of you have a small amount of jewels.

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  • EgosEgos Registered User regular
    MrTLicious wrote: »
    Alternatively, Egos is lying about what he saw in the box.

    Partially. Not about the henchmen.

  • RingoRingo Stardust, Golden Caught in a Devil's BargainRegistered User regular
    MrTLicious wrote: »
    It strikes me as odd that someone would take a henchman and then make it less likely for other people to become henchmen.

    Less ability for the Don to mess up a pick

    But also more chance the Don nabs an Agent

    hrm

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  • MrTLiciousMrTLicious Registered User regular
    Ringo wrote: »
    MrTLicious wrote: »
    It strikes me as odd that someone would take a henchman and then make it less likely for other people to become henchmen.

    Less ability for the Don to mess up a pick

    But also more chance the Don nabs an Agent

    hrm

    I think the primary reason for this ability of the first player is to obfuscate what they chose.

  • RingoRingo Stardust, Golden Caught in a Devil's BargainRegistered User regular
    Yes but why wouldn't you try to use it to advance your win condition as well?

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  • EgosEgos Registered User regular
    Enjoys the challenge?

    Ringo
  • MrTLiciousMrTLicious Registered User regular
    Ringo wrote: »
    Yes but why wouldn't you try to use it to advance your win condition as well?

    As well, sure. But that necessitates doing the first thing.

  • Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    If im a first player and pick henchman, i think i pull out an agent.

    If im a first player and want to remove a henchman, then i probably pick an agent or steal gems.

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  • BluecyanBluecyan Making Christmas Christmas TimeRegistered User regular
    Egos wrote: »
    So @Egos since all the diamonds were in the box when you saw it, and you must've taken a loyal henchman token, what token did jdarksun take?
    I wanted to post a cool GIF, but alas maybe later. There was one less Agent.

    giphy.gif

    This is clearly a lie, there were still two agents when it got to me, so it is safe to assume no agents before me. Between Jdark, MrT and Egos there is at most two henchmen and a driver. If we believe Egos then there is one fewer role and an a diamond thief, but he has clearly lied so it is likely he is either a diamond thief or a driver assuming Jdark is a thief.

    Of course I could be lieing, however I don't see anything to gain in lieing about how many agents I saw. It doesn't do me any good regardless of my role if the Don picks an agent due to giving him bad info.

  • EgosEgos Registered User regular
    Egos wrote: »
    MrTLicious wrote: »
    Alternatively, Egos is lying about what he saw in the box.

    Partially. Not about the henchmen.

  • BluecyanBluecyan Making Christmas Christmas TimeRegistered User regular
    Egos wrote: »
    Egos wrote: »
    MrTLicious wrote: »
    Alternatively, Egos is lying about what he saw in the box.

    Partially. Not about the henchmen.

    Still leaves you as either a driver or a thief.

    Egos
  • Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    If Egos took driver, it's not a given that he is certain about what jdark took at this point.

    Let's say he opened up a box and saw: 10 diamonds, 3 Henchmen, 2 Drivers, 2 Agents. Jdark could have either, robbed X-10 diamonds and pitched a henchmen, OR picked a henchmen, pitched nothing, and Sir Fab had taken 5 diamonds out before passing things around.

    Good thing I'm not the one making the call here, because this didn't get me any closer to figuring out what is going on.

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  • AuralynxAuralynx Super-Classy Crow On Silk!Registered User regular
    If Egos took driver, it's not a given that he is certain about what jdark took at this point.

    Let's say he opened up a box and saw: 10 diamonds, 3 Henchmen, 2 Drivers, 2 Agents. Jdark could have either, robbed X-10 diamonds and pitched a henchmen, OR picked a henchmen, pitched nothing, and Sir Fab had taken 5 diamonds out before passing things around.

    Good thing I'm not the one making the call here, because this didn't get me any closer to figuring out what is going on.

    I'm increasingly sure the diamonds that were missing when I got the box are split over two people who had a crack at it before me.

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    Egos
  • Sir FabulousSir Fabulous Malevolent Squid God Registered User regular
    I am very sad that my one of my own would lie to me.

    @MrTLicious how many Agent tokens were in the box when you checked?

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  • EgosEgos Registered User regular
    edited December 7
    I can clarify things if you want, Fabulous. I thought you might have been scheming in the shadows.

    E: also I didn't read the OP carefully enough :rotate: If it wasn't clear, Jdarksun seemingly took loyal henchman and discarded one; based on the fact only 2 reached me.

    Egos on
  • Sir FabulousSir Fabulous Malevolent Squid God Registered User regular
    Let's wait for MrT's response, shall we?

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  • RingoRingo Stardust, Golden Caught in a Devil's BargainRegistered User regular
    Don, I don't wanna miss the concert though

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    I'm just going to go ahead and lock this thread before I feel any worse about humanity.
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  • MrTLiciousMrTLicious Registered User regular
    There were still 2 agent tokens in the box.

  • Sir FabulousSir Fabulous Malevolent Squid God Registered User regular
    @jdarksun empty your pockets.

    @Phoenix-D

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  • Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    For the sake of keeping the game going:

    jdarksun is a loyal henchman

    -1 Joker from the Don, 1 remains; play on.

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  • EgosEgos Registered User regular
    MrTLicious wrote: »
    I can't confirm whether there were 15 diamonds in the box when he got it, but there definitely weren't 15 when I got it.

    Edit: there were 10 but that claim should be obvious from me.

    There should have been 13.

  • AuralynxAuralynx Super-Classy Crow On Silk!Registered User regular
    Not that I'm not interested in how this disagreement plays out, but just a reminder:

    Before play begins, the Don has the option of hiding between no and five diamonds away from the other players. Then the cigar box is passed around (via PM in this case) until it circles the group and returns to the Don.

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  • Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    Auralynx wrote: »
    Not that I'm not interested in how this disagreement plays out, but just a reminder:

    Before play begins, the Don has the option of hiding between no and five diamonds away from the other players. Then the cigar box is passed around (via PM in this case) until it circles the group and returns to the Don.

    I think the implication was that Egos passed MrT 13 diamonds. Egos revealing this info immediately after jdark revealed village might be evidence that he is a driver and is now pro-don.

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  • EgosEgos Registered User regular
    edited December 8
    I suspect MrTlicious was throwing me a bone here, so apologies for trying to throw you under the bus Mr. T.

    Egos on
  • RingoRingo Stardust, Golden Caught in a Devil's BargainRegistered User regular
    Egos claims 15, then 13
    MrT claims 10 (after Bluecyan)
    Bluecyan claims 10

    Jdarksun didn't take any

    So.. uh??

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  • EgosEgos Registered User regular
    edited December 8
    Auralynx wrote: »
    Not that I'm not interested in how this disagreement plays out, but just a reminder:


    Before play begins, the Don has the option of hiding between no and five diamonds away from the other players. Then the cigar box is passed around (via PM in this case) until it circles the group and returns to the Don.

    I was trying to figure out what was going on myself. It's that or I'm committing game seppuku

    Egos on
  • Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    So to clarify, i think this is the turn of events according to Egos & Blue Cyan:


    Jdark takes 1 henchman, throws another in the garbage.
    Egos claims 13 (meaning sir fab took out two at the beginning), possibly driver, although i dont think it has been claimed
    MrT takes 3 gems
    Bluecyan sees 10 gems, 2 Henchmen, 1 Driver, 2 Agents

    Although the possibility of Egos being a gem thief and Mrt being a driver is still there. And also the possibly of blue lying

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  • EgosEgos Registered User regular
    edited December 8
    Egos claims 13 (meaning sir fab took out two at the beginning), possibly driver, although i dont think it has been claimed

    If I can , I'll claim it. I wasn't sure the rules on that. Ringo nailed it pretty much.

    Egos on
    Ringo
  • RingoRingo Stardust, Golden Caught in a Devil's BargainRegistered User regular
    I like that the Agents are apparently buried in the back half of the list, should be some good questions to try to suss out suspicious thieves vs trying to be suspicious agents

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    I'm just going to go ahead and lock this thread before I feel any worse about humanity.
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  • jdarksunjdarksun Scion of Chaos Registered User regular
  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Frisky whisky even.
    Guaranteed to get you all shook down.

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