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[Mafia de Cuba] Don don done. (Agent Victory)

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  • BluecyanBluecyan Time Travel Means Always Having Good Wine and CheeseRegistered User regular
    So the Agent is either me, Ringo or Arualynx (and a possible 2nd in Phyphor, Gizzy or Discrider). I agree with either Mr.T or Egos being the Thief/Driver combo. Either seems a safe 50/50 guess and I doubt we will get more info though, Egos seemed very driverey early on, before it was apparent the question was between driver and thief.

    It should also be clarified, the Agents do not win together either. Only the one that gets picked wins. With that I can say with certainty: Mr. T, or anyone earlier than him, is definitely not an agent.

    I have very little info about what is going on later in the order. ZH is probably the only other person who is not an agent.

  • Sir FabulousSir Fabulous Malevolent Squid God Registered User regular
    Alright, I think it's a bit of a risk but my hands are tied-like.

    Bluecyan claimed 10 diamonds in the box first, forcing MrT to play along or get himself outed in the process. It's possible that Egos is a thief, MrT an agent, and Bluecyan a driver, but that's some tricky play I'm okay losing to anyway, so...

    @MrTLicious show us your pockets, then.

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  • MrTLiciousMrTLicious Registered User regular
    I've got 3 diamonds... :(

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  • RingoRingo Stardust, Golden Caught in a Devil's BargainRegistered User regular
    So then it's time for my reveal!

    Bluecyan took 6 diamonds - I only received 4 in the box

    Auralynx is an AGENT - claimed I passed 1 agent token, when I passed two

    ceres wrote: »
    I'm just going to go ahead and lock this thread before I feel any worse about humanity.
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  • AuralynxAuralynx Thirty-Seven Keys Registered User regular
    Ringo wrote: »
    So then it's time for my reveal!

    Bluecyan took 6 diamonds - I only received 4 in the box

    Auralynx is an AGENT - claimed I passed 1 agent token, when I passed two

    Horsehockey.

    Space... what is the point of it? You have no idea.
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    Ringo
  • BluecyanBluecyan Time Travel Means Always Having Good Wine and CheeseRegistered User regular
    Auralynx wrote: »
    Ringo wrote: »
    So then it's time for my reveal!

    Bluecyan took 6 diamonds - I only received 4 in the box

    Auralynx is an AGENT - claimed I passed 1 agent token, when I passed two

    Horsehockey.

    If Auralynx can confirm there were 4 diamonds in the box then its clear Ringo is a thief, otherwise he's an agent. Remember we all lose if we pick an agent.

  • AuralynxAuralynx Thirty-Seven Keys Registered User regular
    Bluecyan wrote: »
    Auralynx wrote: »
    Ringo wrote: »
    So then it's time for my reveal!

    Bluecyan took 6 diamonds - I only received 4 in the box

    Auralynx is an AGENT - claimed I passed 1 agent token, when I passed two

    Horsehockey.

    If Auralynx can confirm there were 4 diamonds in the box then its clear Ringo is a thief, otherwise he's an agent. Remember we all lose if we pick an agent.

    There were 4 diamonds in the box when I got it. Said so already. One of you two took them, the other is the agent.

    Space... what is the point of it? You have no idea.
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  • BluecyanBluecyan Time Travel Means Always Having Good Wine and CheeseRegistered User regular
    Auralynx wrote: »
    Bluecyan wrote: »
    Auralynx wrote: »
    Ringo wrote: »
    So then it's time for my reveal!

    Bluecyan took 6 diamonds - I only received 4 in the box

    Auralynx is an AGENT - claimed I passed 1 agent token, when I passed two

    Horsehockey.

    If Auralynx can confirm there were 4 diamonds in the box then its clear Ringo is a thief, otherwise he's an agent. Remember we all lose if we pick an agent.

    There were 4 diamonds in the box when I got it. Said so already. One of you two took them, the other is the agent.

    Unfortunately, and I believe Ringo will now agree with me on this, this makes you the agent and between Ringo and myself: Thief and Henchmen.

    I think Ringo screwed up, cause even if I'm selected, he'll be next so there is no way for him to win now (unless ZH, Auralynx and Ringo are all are lying about agent/drivers count). I'm fine taking a whiskey for the team if it means we get a thief.

  • AuralynxAuralynx Thirty-Seven Keys Registered User regular
    Bluecyan wrote: »
    Auralynx wrote: »
    Bluecyan wrote: »
    Auralynx wrote: »
    Ringo wrote: »
    So then it's time for my reveal!

    Bluecyan took 6 diamonds - I only received 4 in the box

    Auralynx is an AGENT - claimed I passed 1 agent token, when I passed two

    Horsehockey.

    If Auralynx can confirm there were 4 diamonds in the box then its clear Ringo is a thief, otherwise he's an agent. Remember we all lose if we pick an agent.

    There were 4 diamonds in the box when I got it. Said so already. One of you two took them, the other is the agent.

    Unfortunately, and I believe Ringo will now agree with me on this, this makes you the agent and between Ringo and myself: Thief and Henchmen.

    I think Ringo screwed up, cause even if I'm selected, he'll be next so there is no way for him to win now (unless ZH, Auralynx and Ringo are all are lying about agent/drivers count). I'm fine taking a whiskey for the team if it means we get a thief.

    At this point, literally no matter what I say (which is that one of you is an agent), Sir Fab is probably going to take the coin-flip and pick one or the other of you, yes.

    Space... what is the point of it? You have no idea.
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  • BluecyanBluecyan Time Travel Means Always Having Good Wine and CheeseRegistered User regular
    Per the information that has come out, everything before my turn with the box is well known. 13 gems in the box to begin with, 4 hench, 2 agents, 2 drivers. Jdark took one hench and discarded one for 13/2/2/2. Egos did driver 13/2/1/2 Mr. T took three gems 10/2/1/2 which is exactly what I said on the first day.

    I can assert I am not an agent because Ringo would have pointed me out as that instead of a thief, unless he was a driver which both you and ZH have claimed he is not. So either I am a thief or a henchmen.

    Its a little more murky with Ringo because you claim an agent was picked before you, however you also claim there was a thief. Per ZH between the three of us there is a henchman, thief and agent. Though I am seeing now that Ringo already knew the thief had taken 6 gems so their "reveal" wasn't actually a reveal. I rescind my claim that Auralynx is 100% an agent.

    Though after Auralynx it seems the box goes back to 4/1/1/1 for ZH, phyphor, Gizzy, and discrider. Have we had any claims for people after ZH?

  • GizzyGizzy <- girl PhoenixRegistered User regular
    Box came to me with 0 jewels, 1 hench, 1 agent

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  • GizzyGizzy <- girl PhoenixRegistered User regular
    I wonder if ZH was the driver and figured aura was henchman so he's been playing it really helpful

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  • RingoRingo Stardust, Golden Caught in a Devil's BargainRegistered User regular
    Unless someone has a better idea the only way my information can be verified is to accuse bluecyan

    There is only one possibility that I am a driver and I am trying to win with Bluecyan by getting him picked as an Agent. However I believe the material presented would suggest (correctly) that I am not a driver, therefore I wouldn't be trying to get The Don to grab an Agent.

    If someone can contradict me with testimony that's fine, this cold is a helluva handicap right now

    ceres wrote: »
    I'm just going to go ahead and lock this thread before I feel any worse about humanity.
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  • BluecyanBluecyan Time Travel Means Always Having Good Wine and CheeseRegistered User regular
    Ringo wrote: »
    Unless someone has a better idea the only way my information can be verified is to accuse bluecyan

    There is only one possibility that I am a driver and I am trying to win with Bluecyan by getting him picked as an Agent. However I believe the material presented would suggest (correctly) that I am not a driver, therefore I wouldn't be trying to get The Don to grab an Agent.

    If someone can contradict me with testimony that's fine, this cold is a helluva handicap right now

    That'd be up to the many armed Don, besides opening my pockets doesn't actually verify what you have claimed, only what I have. It does seem like a good agent play though, opening my pockets shows hench which puts the focus on you.

    Gizzy's unforced information is interesting, suggesting at least one more jewel thief (possibly more) and one driver between ZH, phypor and Gizzy. Also, making discrider an agent, hench or urchin (not sure why Gizzy would have any interest in making discrider someone safe to ignore).

  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Hey. Hey! Hey.
    I'm always safe to ignore.

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  • RingoRingo Stardust, Golden Caught in a Devil's BargainRegistered User regular
    It verifies that you're the thief, Aura's the Agent, and I'm the hench?

    Like muddy the waters more dude. Be in it to win it!

    (Actually play any way you want, my getting mad over others' playstyles is why I had to quit phalla, too much grudge, not enough gg)

    ceres wrote: »
    I'm just going to go ahead and lock this thread before I feel any worse about humanity.
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  • BluecyanBluecyan Time Travel Means Always Having Good Wine and CheeseRegistered User regular
    Ringo wrote: »
    It verifies that you're the thief, Aura's the Agent, and I'm the hench?

    Like muddy the waters more dude. Be in it to win it!

    (Actually play any way you want, my getting mad over others' playstyles is why I had to quit phalla, too much grudge, not enough gg)

    Not trying to muddy the waters, said so earlier perfectly fine taking whiskey.

    If its a straight up 50/50 choice (or 33/33/33 if we include aura) then we agree I'm not an agent so its the safer person to search, and if I am a thief then you and Auralynx are also safe to ignore. Its a good play. But if I'm a hench (which I am) then we are back in the same position with one fewer do over.

    Hence why we might want to see what's going on later in the order first.

  • RingoRingo Stardust, Golden Caught in a Devil's BargainRegistered User regular
    Yea I'm worried about the other agent in those low slots

    Dangerous territory for everybody

    ceres wrote: »
    I'm just going to go ahead and lock this thread before I feel any worse about humanity.
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  • BluecyanBluecyan Time Travel Means Always Having Good Wine and CheeseRegistered User regular
    (Also, I'm sorry if any of this came off as personal or angry, wasn't the intention, just the nature of deception games. Someone is going to lie and others have to accuse them of lying.)

    Ringo
  • RingoRingo Stardust, Golden Caught in a Devil's BargainRegistered User regular
    Assuming @Sir Fabulous chooses to make Bluecyan empty his pockets, then we'll be left with these guys:

    7 - Zombie Hero - claims henchman
    8 - Phyphor - claims Zombie Hero is *not* a henchman, no claim on own role
    9 - Gizzy - claims henchman, and that there were 0 jewels and 1 agent role left
    10 - discrider - no information whatsoever

    There should be 1 agent, 1 henchman, and 1 driver in this group
    If Gizzy is to be believed there is also a Jewel Thief in this group

    If the Jewel Thief is picked, game ends in victory for Don and company
    If the Agent is picked, Agent and possibly a driver wins
    If a Henchman is picked, Don loses last Joker, game continues

    What's the best way to suss out the last Agent or Thief knowing there's still 1 joker to use?

    ceres wrote: »
    I'm just going to go ahead and lock this thread before I feel any worse about humanity.
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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Declare defeat and watch what everyone puts back in the box.

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  • BluecyanBluecyan Time Travel Means Always Having Good Wine and CheeseRegistered User regular
    Ringo wrote: »
    Assuming @Sir Fabulous chooses to make Bluecyan empty his pockets, then we'll be left with these guys:

    7 - Zombie Hero - claims henchman
    8 - Phyphor - claims Zombie Hero is *not* a henchman, no claim on own role
    9 - Gizzy - claims henchman, and that there were 0 jewels and 1 agent role left
    10 - discrider - no information whatsoever

    There should be 1 agent, 1 henchman, and 1 driver in this group
    If Gizzy is to be believed there is also a Jewel Thief in this group

    If the Jewel Thief is picked, game ends in victory for Don and company
    If the Agent is picked, Agent and possibly a driver wins
    If a Henchman is picked, Don loses last Joker, game continues

    What's the best way to suss out the last Agent or Thief knowing there's still 1 joker to use?

    Discrider could also be a street urchin, there could be one or more roles untaken. Potentially, everyone in that group could have taken just one diamond (unlikely).

    If Gizzy is to be believed, there isn't another agent (or is descrider but then the Don would know if there wasn't an agent in the box). If Gizzy is lying she is the agent or is a driver and believes phyphor is an agent.

    Egos
  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    You should randomly pick people; First guess is always free!

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  • EgosEgos Registered User regular
    when did the second driver disappear? or around what turns did it get removed from the deck?

  • Sir FabulousSir Fabulous Malevolent Squid God Registered User regular
    I want to hear from @Phyphor what was in the box when it came to him before making any sweeping judgements.

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  • BluecyanBluecyan Time Travel Means Always Having Good Wine and CheeseRegistered User regular
    Egos wrote: »
    when did the second driver disappear? or around what turns did it get removed from the deck?

    Somewhere from ZH through Gizzy I believe.

  • RingoRingo Stardust, Golden Caught in a Devil's BargainRegistered User regular
    Okay I know we're waiting for Phyphor, but here's something I spotted:

    ZombieHero cannot be an Agent

    Both Gizzy and Phyphor said there was an Agent in the box.

    If ZH were an Agent then Phyphor could be a driver trying to win with him, but then Gizzy would also be lying and would have no way to win if ZH got picked.

    Phyphor would have no reason to lie if he wasn't a driver

    Therefore we must assume that while Gizzy and Phyphor could both be lying about anything else, they've confirmed that ZH is not an Agent

    ceres wrote: »
    I'm just going to go ahead and lock this thread before I feel any worse about humanity.
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  • RingoRingo Stardust, Golden Caught in a Devil's BargainRegistered User regular
    Okay, but how does this help us?

    Well if ZH is forced to empty his pockets then..

    A) He turns out to be a Henchman. Both Gizzy and Phyphor are caught lying. Phyphor is neither a driver (wouldn't have tried to waste a pick on ZH) nor a henchman. Phyphor is either an Agent or a Thief, Gizzy is Agent or Thief or Driver

    B) Turns out to be a thief. Nothing learned, but thief is caught and perhaps amount of diamonds left tells us something

    C) Turns out to be a driver. Bad news, lost a joker, no guarantee anything is revealed

    I don't believe ZH is a driver. Both A and B are good outcomes. Someone check me on this?

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    I'm just going to go ahead and lock this thread before I feel any worse about humanity.
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  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    I want to hear from Phyphor what was in the box when it came to him before making any sweeping judgements.

    No comment

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  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    edited December 2017
    Edit: perhaps I should say this afterwards

    Phyphor on
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  • EgosEgos Registered User regular
    Gizzy wrote: »
    Good old sticky fingers Egos!
    Gizzy wrote: »
    Good old sticky fingers zombie hero

    Unsure why, but these quotes made me think that Gizzy went either driver with a jewel thief or Agent. That and the lower activity.


  • Sir FabulousSir Fabulous Malevolent Squid God Registered User regular
    I think I do need to make @Bluecyan empty his pockets.

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  • Sir FabulousSir Fabulous Malevolent Squid God Registered User regular
    Phyphor wrote: »
    I want to hear from Phyphor what was in the box when it came to him before making any sweeping judgements.

    No comment

    I know I can always count on you Johnny Tight-Lips.

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  • BluecyanBluecyan Time Travel Means Always Having Good Wine and CheeseRegistered User regular
    Just my car keys and a bit of fluff. You're welcome to the fluff of course. Actually. If I'm getting whuskey maybe you should hold onto the keys as well.

    @Sir Fabulous

    Ringo
  • RingoRingo Stardust, Golden Caught in a Devil's BargainRegistered User regular
    Well well well, @Auralynx

    What do you have to say for yourself now?

    ceres wrote: »
    I'm just going to go ahead and lock this thread before I feel any worse about humanity.
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  • AuralynxAuralynx Thirty-Seven Keys Registered User regular
    Ringo wrote: »
    Well well well, Auralynx

    What do you have to say for yourself now?

    That if Bluecyan doesn't have that 6 diamonds, either you do, I do, or Egos does.

    Space... what is the point of it? You have no idea.
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    Ringo
  • Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    Bluecyan is a henchman; minus one Joker none remain

    @sir fabulous

  • EgosEgos Registered User regular
    edited December 2017
    so Ringo= Agent and Aura= thief?

    E; Nvm about ringo, see what he might have been doing

    Egos on
  • RingoRingo Stardust, Golden Caught in a Devil's BargainRegistered User regular
    Auralynx wrote: »
    Ringo wrote: »
    Well well well, Auralynx

    What do you have to say for yourself now?

    That if Bluecyan doesn't have that 6 diamonds, either you do, I do, or Egos does.

    Oh wow, 10-4 good buddy

    Egos, I'm sorry I ever doubted you

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    I'm just going to go ahead and lock this thread before I feel any worse about humanity.
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