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  • Lord DaveLord Dave Grief Causer Bitch Free ZoneRegistered User regular
    I like M+, but just never have the committed time to really dig into it
    Emissaries are torture though

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  • ZayZay yes i am zay Registered User regular
    Walt wrote: »
    I should try the brewmaster challenge. So far they've all sucked ass and have not challenged anything other than your ability to time interrupts and CC. You can really see the "what if we made difficulty about multiple instant wipe abilities on random timers!" influence of Tomb of Sargeras sharting through. Ugh.

    They could have done a better job of tailoring each of them to their spec, but like what do you think would make them “actually challenging”? Dodging and interrupting stuff is kind of the only way wow has difficulty, and the raid setting requiring coordination of the movements of many people, which is why raids are hard, obviously can’t apply to a solo scenario. Raw number checks? More skilled players will beat it at lower ilevel, but that’s that easiest metric of difficulty and becomes trivialized with gear, as opposed to needing to execute properly on a series of mechanics

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  • ZayZay yes i am zay Registered User regular
    So I'm torn on what to do right now:

    My Death Knight is currently level 88. I've uncovered maybe 3/4 of the first zone of Pandaria. At this rate I'll be ready for WoD before I even finish the first zone. This is my highest level character and I've never done any of the MoP content before, but so far I quite enjoy it. Should I pause leveling at 90 and finish the MoP zones, or just let it run over? Or should I get to 90 and then just skip what's left of MoP and move right to WoD?

    I’d say just skip it and go back at 110. Being able to fly and one shot mobs just makes the grindy parts of the questing experience go by faster, and still get the story if you want it

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  • WaltWalt Waller Arcane Enchanted Frozen ElectrifiedRegistered User regular
    Zay wrote: »
    Walt wrote: »
    I should try the brewmaster challenge. So far they've all sucked ass and have not challenged anything other than your ability to time interrupts and CC. You can really see the "what if we made difficulty about multiple instant wipe abilities on random timers!" influence of Tomb of Sargeras sharting through. Ugh.

    They could have done a better job of tailoring each of them to their spec, but like what do you think would make them “actually challenging”? Dodging and interrupting stuff is kind of the only way wow has difficulty, and the raid setting requiring coordination of the movements of many people, which is why raids are hard, obviously can’t apply to a solo scenario. Raw number checks? More skilled players will beat it at lower ilevel, but that’s that easiest metric of difficulty and becomes trivialized with gear, as opposed to needing to execute properly on a series of mechanics

    I have a lot of thoughts on the Mistweaver challenge in particular:

    Fix the AI. It's obnoxious that the AI does variable DPS and can get stuck attacking the wrong add. Make them always kill the mage first even if you use a CC like Quaking Palm.

    Remove the back of the room teleport from the Arbalest. It only matters if it happens at the same time as knife dance, meaning there's a 33% chance you just lose to the last pack versus it being incredibly easy to deal with, unless you drag the second to last pack out to wait for your stun to come off CD. It makes the encounter harder but in a dumb counterintuitive way.

    Don't force the player to stand at range from the boss to handle the fire mechanics. This would have been a lot cooler if it was a soft enrage and the group followed you around the room.

    Why does the intermission stage even exist at all?

    Why do the fixate guys chase you instead of putting a ground puddle under you to force you to move? All this does is favor healers with roots and punish everyone else. Come to think of it, why is there nothing that forces you to move at all besides this and the last boss?

    The penultimate boss just reuses trash and is no more difficult except that the incoming damage is slightly higher.

    Why is the final boss mechanic an obtuse low health % snapshot check at all instead of a more interesting anub rhekan like mechanic that allows you to actually make decisions about what spells to use instead of just blanketing the DPS and ping ponging your own HP with void zones?

    Why does every encounter actually punish you for doing extra damage because you need cooldown up for almost every pack? Was there no way to make a more interesting mage that can debuff or cc your allies or drop meteors on you or something?

    The whole thing boils down to using leg sweep and paralysis at the right time and using your racial or whatever other emergency stomp you need if the timing gets borked up. I would have greatly preferred some kind of test of mana management or spike damage you need to handle and can't just interrupt (or you die). Even a debuff you needed to handle. The whole thing feels like a DPS challenge not a healing one.

  • SaerisSaeris Borb Enthusiast flapflapflapflapRegistered User regular
    edited December 2017
    I thought it was quite fun as an 890 Holy paladin, but it's not really a healing challenge. There's hardly any test of mana efficiency, triage, or coordination with party member defensive abilities. The absurdly low health pools and poor AI of your party members mean that the scenario is almost solely about throughput and cooldown management. Those are more DPS role challenges.

    edit: And yes, way too much luck involved with random targeting (both from the enemies and your party).

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    Saeris wrote: »
    I thought it was quite fun as an 890 Holy paladin, but it's not really a healing challenge. There's hardly any test of mana efficiency, triage, or coordination with party member defensive abilities. The absurdly low health pools and poor AI of your party members mean that the scenario is almost solely about throughput and cooldown management. Those are more DPS role challenges.

    edit: And yes, way too much luck involved with random targeting (both from the enemies and your party).

    Yeah, the tank challenge is indistinguishable from a dps challenge. P1 is mostly add management/interrupting, and phase 2 is a DPS race, since you can only survive a certain number of stacks.

  • rhylithrhylith Death Rabbits HoustonRegistered User regular
    I kinda feel like butt today so I'm gonna sit out.

  • DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    Lord Dave wrote: »
    I like M+, but just never have the committed time to really dig into it
    Emissaries are torture though

    I do mine at the same time every week and dont necessarily bring the same group of people so if you or rhylith or whoever want in, feel free my dudes

    m+ both gives you really good gear and gets you better at the game so like, there's actually no reason not to do it

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  • DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    also I will be a few min late as usual because thurs

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    The Zeny/Zau plan that almost was
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  • Rock Lobster!Rock Lobster! Registered User regular
    Steam | BNet: Eits#1367
  • WaltWalt Waller Arcane Enchanted Frozen ElectrifiedRegistered User regular
    tonight was the worst ive played in a very long time

  • DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    sleepy phase of imonar might be my least favorite thing of the expansion since like, odyn

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I also felt bad so I just slept instead of raiding tonight.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    imonar got to you too huh

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  • Lord DaveLord Dave Grief Causer Bitch Free ZoneRegistered User regular
    Lord Dave wrote: »
    I like M+, but just never have the committed time to really dig into it
    Emissaries are torture though

    I do mine at the same time every week and dont necessarily bring the same group of people so if you or rhylith or whoever want in, feel free my dudes

    m+ both gives you really good gear and gets you better at the game so like, there's actually no reason not to do it

    Yeah I’d be glad to join up if I’m ever not busy on Sunday

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I'm usually sick on Sundays, but otherwise I'd be game.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
    Imonar isn't Boba Fett

    he's Dogg the Bounty Hunter

    you're being put to sleep because he's boring like the TV show

  • WaltWalt Waller Arcane Enchanted Frozen ElectrifiedRegistered User regular
    edited December 2017
    THEY TRIED TO GLITCH ON YA BOI AGAIN

    BUT I WAS READY
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    FOURTH TIMES THE CHARM

    Walt on
  • That Dave FellaThat Dave Fella Registered User regular
    I don't know who decided that the druid owl form needed to make stupid ass rweh noises every 10 seconds.

    I can't use the form even though I do like it so back to regular form I go.

    PSN: ThatDaveFella
  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    Walt why are you a panda again.

  • XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
    edited December 2017
    I think the worst thing is being put asleep and then he throws a mine on you

    Xehalus on
  • AngryAngry The glory I had witnessed was just a sleight of handRegistered User regular
    We should do some more late night rbgs tonight.

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Well, if you want to do some, let me know cause I actually like WoW pvp.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • Seattle ThreadSeattle Thread Registered User regular
    Not sure I'll be around, but I'll bring my Mistweaver bullshit if I can

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  • AkimboLegsAkimboLegs Registered User regular
    How late we talking

  • AngryAngry The glory I had witnessed was just a sleight of handRegistered User regular
    im good for literally any time so it depends on zay and co i guess

  • Seattle ThreadSeattle Thread Registered User regular
    What the nuts! There was another thing waiting at my door?!

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    Jefflith, you fuckin' rock. Tampopo is one of my favorite movies of all.

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    is lone wolf and cub the sequel to shogun assassin?

  • Lord DaveLord Dave Grief Causer Bitch Free ZoneRegistered User regular
    It’s the prequel to Hawk and Chick

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I did a LFR tonight and now my tank spec has the rather insane tomb 4-set and throne 2-set bonus stacks for tanking.

    Tomb:
    2 piece Berserker Rage gives 20 rages instantly and then 10 rage every second for the next six seconds.
    4 piece Shield Slam lowers the cooldown of Berserker by 3.0 seconds
    Throne:
    2 piece While Battle Shout is Active, Shield Slam's Cooldown is reduced by 100%.

    I honestly dunno if the 2 piece is good enough to take off the legendary gloves that reduce MS' rage by 8, but I'm guessing it is? I'll look it up over the weekend

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • WaltWalt Waller Arcane Enchanted Frozen ElectrifiedRegistered User regular
    I would do RBGs if people scheduled them in advance. I just started doing some PvP and I'm having a great time.

  • Seattle ThreadSeattle Thread Registered User regular
    The only thing better than one Mistweaver on your team is two Mistweavers on your team

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  • WaltWalt Waller Arcane Enchanted Frozen ElectrifiedRegistered User regular
    I've been playing Windwalker, being able to steer Flying Serpent Kick is hilarious and awesome.

  • JavenJaven Registered User regular

    Instead of 'do you want this' I think they meant 'you definitely want this most awesome thing'

  • ZenyatooZenyatoo Registered User regular
    that chinese guild (alpha?) that streams mythic prog is at it again.

    I tuned in briefly before bed, and watched a bit of mythic aggramar. They were inconsistent, but had some 30% pulls. I was expecting them to be 10/11 when I woke up.
    8 hours later, they're still at it, and their best attempt is a 21% pull.

    World first races are messed up man.

  • XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
    I like how the end of the Coven of Shivarra world first is someone yelling, "I HATE THIS GAME! I'M QUITTING!"

  • ZayZay yes i am zay Registered User regular
    so i've been using the cradle of anguish from maiden, which gives you a lot of primary stat but the buff falls off if you go below 50% health and doesn't start stacking again until you get over 80% hp, so this buff has been falling off a lot in heroic progression and i didn't want to put on a different trinket because the other ones i thought i had were annoying

    turns out i just had a haste stat stick for months, that gives more haste and strength that can't fall off

    oops

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