Heard a lot of bitching about having to pull heavy this morning on the trap bar
The heaviest some guys got up to was 170kg for a double which isn’t bad, but the bitching flipped a switch and so I had to demonstrate to them the intent I’m after when we do our “max effort”
Did twenty reps of that cold and I think in one breath so that was fun. But it set the tone after that for back squats.
That's pretty much my max DL not even sure could pull it on a trap bar.
You most certainly could on a trap bar. For a triple, I’d bet on it.
Also, nothing shabby about 170kg. The problem I find with the athletes I work with is a) they hate lifting b) they hate lifting so anything hard is automatically a fucking task.
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Probably not right now because I've been easing off the weights for the summer. Like I still lift and I'm maintaining a baseline but I'm actually enjoying a summer of stepping back from progression. I have reduced my loads, and I'm not getting a gym session in every Saturday. I've been managing to go to the gym 2 times a week where I throw down a 5x5 set, some HIIT, and hopefully some accessory work. However I usually end up doing some kind of exercise when i don't get a gym session on Saturday. Stuff like kayaking, or hiking, or hours of swimming, or like this past weekend my Saturday workout was aerial silks (or as I'm now going to call it the ultimate grip strength exercise).
My squat is sitting around 200, my overhead press is around 105, my bench is around 150, my standing row is at 205, and my DL is resting at about the 315 range (all units in pounds cause murica). There's some slight variance in those numbers depending on overall effort levels for the day, and how I'm feeling. I'm also trying to pay more attention to my form to make sure I'm not getting sloppy while trying to maintain speed.
My numbers aren't going up, but those baselines are getting easier and easier. Like last night I railed through a 320 deadlift set like it was nothing. Even while I was ripping 375 lifts for my top set 315 still felt like a lot... now it's kinda feeling like a weight I could farmers carry (I'm not going to attempt to farmers carry it). Once things calm down and I can get more of my weekends back I'll probably dig back in on progression from where I've sort of leveled off, but right now all my weekends are full of fun summer plans so I'm just kinda on maintenance mode for now and can't confirm if I can still move the 375 for reps.
Heard a lot of bitching about having to pull heavy this morning on the trap bar
The heaviest some guys got up to was 170kg for a double which isn’t bad, but the bitching flipped a switch and so I had to demonstrate to them the intent I’m after when we do our “max effort”
Did twenty reps of that cold and I think in one breath so that was fun. But it set the tone after that for back squats.
That's pretty much my max DL not even sure could pull it on a trap bar.
You most certainly could on a trap bar. For a triple, I’d bet on it.
Also, nothing shabby about 170kg. The problem I find with the athletes I work with is a) they hate lifting b) they hate lifting so anything hard is automatically a fucking task.
Lol basketball
Probably not right now because I've been easing off the weights for the summer. Like I still lift and I'm maintaining a baseline but I'm actually enjoying a summer of stepping back from progression. I have reduced my loads, and I'm not getting a gym session in every Saturday. I've been managing to go to the gym 2 times a week where I throw down a 5x5 set, some HIIT, and hopefully some accessory work. However I usually end up doing some kind of exercise when i don't get a gym session on Saturday. Stuff like kayaking, or hiking, or hours of swimming, or like this past weekend my Saturday workout was aerial silks (or as I'm now going to call it the ultimate grip strength exercise).
My squat is sitting around 200, my overhead press is around 105, my bench is around 150, my standing row is at 205, and my DL is resting at about the 315 range (all units in pounds cause murica). There's some slight variance in those numbers depending on overall effort levels for the day, and how I'm feeling. I'm also trying to pay more attention to my form to make sure I'm not getting sloppy while trying to maintain speed.
My numbers aren't going up, but those baselines are getting easier and easier. Like last night I railed through a 320 deadlift set like it was nothing. Even while I was ripping 375 lifts for my top set 315 still felt like a lot... now it's kinda feeling like a weight I could farmers carry (I'm not going to attempt to farmers carry it). Once things calm down and I can get more of my weekends back I'll probably dig back in on progression from where I've sort of leveled off, but right now all my weekends are full of fun summer plans so I'm just kinda on maintenance mode for now and can't confirm if I can still move the 375 for reps.
There is nothing wrong with taking a break. At least you’re still lifting and staying active. My summer last year was very much maintenance based but I got some good work in and didn’t beat the shit out of myself too much. I like to think that set me up for my big strength gains that hit in October and December.
It was consistency that did it, though, even though the overall volume was low. And tweaking my technique.
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I have a friend who has been in the 115 to 120 or so lbs range his entire like (at around 5'10"). Lately he tapped me to start teaching him how to lift weights so I've got him on Stronglifts 5x5 to start building him up. He's asking me now what he should be taking in terms of protein. I was thinking of just recommending him MyProtein, but, given that he really wants protein AND weight gain is there something better to recommend?
I have a friend who has been in the 115 to 120 or so lbs range his entire like (at around 5'10"). Lately he tapped me to start teaching him how to lift weights so I've got him on Stronglifts 5x5 to start building him up. He's asking me now what he should be taking in terms of protein. I was thinking of just recommending him MyProtein, but, given that he really wants protein AND weight gain is there something better to recommend?
Yeah, just eat more meat and beans. Chicken’s good, it’s pretty lean and it’s cheap. 115-120 is crazy skinny for 5’ 10, if he starts eating 3 good meals a day he’ll start putting on weight and if he keeps working out it’ll be muscle. I’m sure there are other folks here far more experienced who can point you in a specific direction for protein powders, but your buddy is not anywhere near needing to worry about the small stuff. If he can’t bring lunch to work or school maybe grab something (I like Gold Standard’s chocolate-related flavors), but that’d be my first suggestion. If he needs recipe or diet advice, there are tons of weird beards with their own ideas out there but generally eat lots of protein, lots of “good” fat (good meaning less oil, more attached to the animal generally), and lots of colorful/green veggies.
I have a friend who has been in the 115 to 120 or so lbs range his entire like (at around 5'10"). Lately he tapped me to start teaching him how to lift weights so I've got him on Stronglifts 5x5 to start building him up. He's asking me now what he should be taking in terms of protein. I was thinking of just recommending him MyProtein, but, given that he really wants protein AND weight gain is there something better to recommend?
Yeah, just eat more meat and beans. Chicken’s good, it’s pretty lean and it’s cheap. 115-120 is crazy skinny for 5’ 10, if he starts eating 3 good meals a day he’ll start putting on weight and if he keeps working out it’ll be muscle. I’m sure there are other folks here far more experienced who can point you in a specific direction for protein powders, but your buddy is not anywhere near needing to worry about the small stuff. If he can’t bring lunch to work or school maybe grab something (I like Gold Standard’s chocolate-related flavors), but that’d be my first suggestion. If he needs recipe or diet advice, there are tons of weird beards with their own ideas out there but generally eat lots of protein, lots of “good” fat (good meaning less oil, more attached to the animal generally), and lots of colorful/green veggies.
Part of the desire for something like a protein drink or high calorie drink for him is that he knows he has a problem eating enough calories in like, regular food form, so if he can get himself to try to get closer to eating three square meals a day, while also pounding some calorie and protein rich drink each day that will make his life that much easier. He gets full and loses the desire to eat pretty easily, which is something I plan to work on with him, but he's hoping to cheat around that a bit with some liquid calories.
I have a friend who has been in the 115 to 120 or so lbs range his entire like (at around 5'10"). Lately he tapped me to start teaching him how to lift weights so I've got him on Stronglifts 5x5 to start building him up. He's asking me now what he should be taking in terms of protein. I was thinking of just recommending him MyProtein, but, given that he really wants protein AND weight gain is there something better to recommend?
Yeah, just eat more meat and beans. Chicken’s good, it’s pretty lean and it’s cheap. 115-120 is crazy skinny for 5’ 10, if he starts eating 3 good meals a day he’ll start putting on weight and if he keeps working out it’ll be muscle. I’m sure there are other folks here far more experienced who can point you in a specific direction for protein powders, but your buddy is not anywhere near needing to worry about the small stuff. If he can’t bring lunch to work or school maybe grab something (I like Gold Standard’s chocolate-related flavors), but that’d be my first suggestion. If he needs recipe or diet advice, there are tons of weird beards with their own ideas out there but generally eat lots of protein, lots of “good” fat (good meaning less oil, more attached to the animal generally), and lots of colorful/green veggies.
Part of the desire for something like a protein drink or high calorie drink for him is that he knows he has a problem eating enough calories in like, regular food form, so if he can get himself to try to get closer to eating three square meals a day, while also pounding some calorie and protein rich drink each day that will make his life that much easier. He gets full and loses the desire to eat pretty easily, which is something I plan to work on with him, but he's hoping to cheat around that a bit with some liquid calories.
Got it, that’s fair. Then in that case, I will say I am all about some Gold Standard Cookies n Cream flavor. It’s delicious like ice cream and the numbers aren’t bad either. But I don’t have enough experience with MyProtein to have a problem with it and based on their listed nutritional info they don’t seem bad either! If he’s really hard up for calories period, snacks help too. Just having some extra in a bag helps me when I’m trying to put on weight.
I have a friend who has been in the 115 to 120 or so lbs range his entire like (at around 5'10"). Lately he tapped me to start teaching him how to lift weights so I've got him on Stronglifts 5x5 to start building him up. He's asking me now what he should be taking in terms of protein. I was thinking of just recommending him MyProtein, but, given that he really wants protein AND weight gain is there something better to recommend?
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Ordinarily I'd hesitate to link to Chaos and Pain, what with common decency standards and all, but his latest article about arm training is remarkably SFW and has some good stuff in it.
Ordinarily I'd hesitate to link to Chaos and Pain, what with common decency standards and all, but his latest article about arm training is remarkably SFW and has some good stuff in it.
Ya, it's tough wanting to learn from the experts but also being repulsed by their whole macho-man thing. This is cool though! I've been wanting to do more emphasis on B I G A R M S at some point in the near future.
For the longest time I've been setting up my deadlift from beneath my starting position. Squatting down, bracing my core, and then bringing my hips up they were on position. Lately I've been seeing nothing but videos of people starting high and pulling themselves down into position. Peen being an obvious example since it's right above this post. I've never had any problems setting up this way (that I know of, but it does seem my max has stalled out), but now I'm wondering if I've been doing it wrong the entire time. I think I got it from sumo deadlifts, not sure anymore
I don't know about right or wrong, but for me the set up is start high and pull my hips and shoulder blades back, like behind me, not so much down. When I pull them back it cues the hinge the right way for me and gets everything as tight as it needs to be.
I’m a grip and rip kinda deadlifter, so setting up low is not an option. I’m forced to when using straps though and it always seem to be harder to brace properly.
Speaking of deadlift - did some volume today which sucked ass. My strength isn’t close to what it used to be, but slowly improving
Stuff like that always ends up being way harder than you expect. Every time I do a weird pyramid rep scheme it starts out looking reasonable and ends up devastating.
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Not a big fan of the trap bar. It's more of a squat/deadlift hybrid, and instead of that I'll just squat and deadlift.
But I will use it every now and then, like maybe every four weeks ? just to throw in a new range of motion.
Best/worst deadlift advice I've been given about grip: hook grip is the best and safest, and it will hurt the first time, the tenth time, the hundredth time, and until you develop the callus on your thumbs where it finally doesn't hurt. I'm only on the tens and it definitely doesn't feel any better from the very first time I tried this way.
Oh yeah I finally went back to the gym after a month again
Let the elbow injury derail me oops, went and did stuff that didn’t involve my elbow which I coulda been doing all month (but I was anxious about work stuff and let that creep in too)
Oh well, 1 month off better than more than 1
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I've had this niggling feeling underneath one of my shoulder blades. If I do any kind of S2OH lift or gymnastic (pull ups, toes to bar, etc.) it gets aggravated.
Leave it alone and it'll get better, or maybe ask a professional?
Alright, I think I've exhausted my free trial memberships at the various gyms around town. I even tried out planet fitness (spoiler: it kinda sucked.. it would probably work if you're a body builder though).
I found the absolute perfect gym on the far side of the city, racks and platforms and tires and stones and everything I put in my Christmas list (they even have a homemade neck machine, and a real reverse hyper)... But I can't sign up because it's too far away and they don't have child care (wife's hours suck, I've usually gotta take my son along with me). Awesome gym though, and I'll be popping in every once in a while just to play with all the fun stuff.
So I've settled on a different place .. I'd say it's 3rd best. It's got everything I need and nearly everything I want. It has some surprises I wasn't originally looking for, like the fact it's clearly old converted office space complete with carpeted floors, but the owner seems pretty cool and they have a hot tub (or a sauna, the different amenities from the different gyms are blending together). First order of business is to try to get them to buy a safety squat bar, and find a tire for my backyard
I'm going to have to have surgery on my shoulder, and my hip/back problems are improving but the pain is going to get worse before it gets better. I can't walk good any more.
That hip and back problem has been going on for a long long time, hasn't it? I imagine therapy to fix it is painful, but there must be some relief in knowing that in the future it will be much better.
Anyone have good experiences with any particular shiatsu massage pads on Amazon? Foam rolling helps, but my back and shoulders get so tight I know I'm eventually going to get injured. I'd love to see my massage therapist more often but I can't afford to so I'm figuring this might be a good enough solution between appointments.
Ordinarily I'd hesitate to link to Chaos and Pain, what with common decency standards and all, but his latest article about arm training is remarkably SFW and has some good stuff in it.
Ya, it's tough wanting to learn from the experts but also being repulsed by their whole macho-man thing. This is cool though! I've been wanting to do more emphasis on B I G A R M S at some point in the near future.
I just did this and thought it was great. I feel like it may be overkill for triceps/biceps. but I'm not particularly strong here so I did the regular bar for the first set, 30 pound bar for the overhead/curls, and 20 pound bar for the lying tricep extensions. I could barely get 10 lb dumbbells up all the way with the kick backs because my arms were jello;
I will put this in on alternate days between leg day, shoulder/back day, and the high intensity bodyweight/cardio day
Never tried two kettlebells, but have tried using a pvc pipe in the past. Feels good, able to break into those really tight/tough spots, but it's not as relieving and relaxing as a massage.
That's probably what I'm mostly after, the euphoric state you can get in during and after a massage. Maybe I'll just pick up both. Get a little relaxation/mediation with the shoulder massage and really loosen things up with some heavy duty sewer pipe
Reverse Hypers 20 x 10kg / 15 x 60 / 15x90
Safety Squat Bar 8 x 70 / 6 x 120 / 4 x 160 / 2 x 190 / 1 x 210 / 1 x 220 / 8 x 140
Rack Deadlifts below the knee 5 x 70/ 5 x 110 / 5 x 140 / 2x5x160
Bout to finish off with some leg press. Gonna clear some food like a sumo squad
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Decided to bail on my cube cycle. After moving and trying to get a gym and schedule together it felt like I was just best off resetting for a bit. Going with strong lifts 5x5 for a bit again (I dunno, I'm thinking 8-12 weeks) and honestly it just feels nice to go back to something really simple.
On that note about strong lifts though... The premium access for the app is absolutely ridiculous... A monthly subscription for a plate calculator and a list of warm-up and accessory exercises?
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Probably not right now because I've been easing off the weights for the summer. Like I still lift and I'm maintaining a baseline but I'm actually enjoying a summer of stepping back from progression. I have reduced my loads, and I'm not getting a gym session in every Saturday. I've been managing to go to the gym 2 times a week where I throw down a 5x5 set, some HIIT, and hopefully some accessory work. However I usually end up doing some kind of exercise when i don't get a gym session on Saturday. Stuff like kayaking, or hiking, or hours of swimming, or like this past weekend my Saturday workout was aerial silks (or as I'm now going to call it the ultimate grip strength exercise).
My squat is sitting around 200, my overhead press is around 105, my bench is around 150, my standing row is at 205, and my DL is resting at about the 315 range (all units in pounds cause murica). There's some slight variance in those numbers depending on overall effort levels for the day, and how I'm feeling. I'm also trying to pay more attention to my form to make sure I'm not getting sloppy while trying to maintain speed.
My numbers aren't going up, but those baselines are getting easier and easier. Like last night I railed through a 320 deadlift set like it was nothing. Even while I was ripping 375 lifts for my top set 315 still felt like a lot... now it's kinda feeling like a weight I could farmers carry (I'm not going to attempt to farmers carry it). Once things calm down and I can get more of my weekends back I'll probably dig back in on progression from where I've sort of leveled off, but right now all my weekends are full of fun summer plans so I'm just kinda on maintenance mode for now and can't confirm if I can still move the 375 for reps.
There is nothing wrong with taking a break. At least you’re still lifting and staying active. My summer last year was very much maintenance based but I got some good work in and didn’t beat the shit out of myself too much. I like to think that set me up for my big strength gains that hit in October and December.
It was consistency that did it, though, even though the overall volume was low. And tweaking my technique.
When he pulled out his dong the lunk alarm went off.
Yeah, just eat more meat and beans. Chicken’s good, it’s pretty lean and it’s cheap. 115-120 is crazy skinny for 5’ 10, if he starts eating 3 good meals a day he’ll start putting on weight and if he keeps working out it’ll be muscle. I’m sure there are other folks here far more experienced who can point you in a specific direction for protein powders, but your buddy is not anywhere near needing to worry about the small stuff. If he can’t bring lunch to work or school maybe grab something (I like Gold Standard’s chocolate-related flavors), but that’d be my first suggestion. If he needs recipe or diet advice, there are tons of weird beards with their own ideas out there but generally eat lots of protein, lots of “good” fat (good meaning less oil, more attached to the animal generally), and lots of colorful/green veggies.
Part of the desire for something like a protein drink or high calorie drink for him is that he knows he has a problem eating enough calories in like, regular food form, so if he can get himself to try to get closer to eating three square meals a day, while also pounding some calorie and protein rich drink each day that will make his life that much easier. He gets full and loses the desire to eat pretty easily, which is something I plan to work on with him, but he's hoping to cheat around that a bit with some liquid calories.
Got it, that’s fair. Then in that case, I will say I am all about some Gold Standard Cookies n Cream flavor. It’s delicious like ice cream and the numbers aren’t bad either. But I don’t have enough experience with MyProtein to have a problem with it and based on their listed nutritional info they don’t seem bad either! If he’s really hard up for calories period, snacks help too. Just having some extra in a bag helps me when I’m trying to put on weight.
I have found core power to be delicious when going to the store and needing to snag a shake. Any kind of powder really.
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5x255, 4x295, 3x315, 2x330, 1x345 which was the smoothest of the lot but good god my lat started to cramp right as I was racking
A fine lift. Then I hit some neck cause I started to feel self conscious while I was doing my DB side laterals
Ya, it's tough wanting to learn from the experts but also being repulsed by their whole macho-man thing.
Speaking of deadlift - did some volume today which sucked ass. My strength isn’t close to what it used to be, but slowly improving
Significantly tougher than I thought it was going to be.
Did all sets high bar until the last and said fuck it put the belt on and low bar/good morning’d some of that set
But I will use it every now and then, like maybe every four weeks ? just to throw in a new range of motion.
Let the elbow injury derail me oops, went and did stuff that didn’t involve my elbow which I coulda been doing all month (but I was anxious about work stuff and let that creep in too)
Oh well, 1 month off better than more than 1
Leave it alone and it'll get better, or maybe ask a professional?
I found the absolute perfect gym on the far side of the city, racks and platforms and tires and stones and everything I put in my Christmas list (they even have a homemade neck machine, and a real reverse hyper)... But I can't sign up because it's too far away and they don't have child care (wife's hours suck, I've usually gotta take my son along with me). Awesome gym though, and I'll be popping in every once in a while just to play with all the fun stuff.
So I've settled on a different place .. I'd say it's 3rd best. It's got everything I need and nearly everything I want. It has some surprises I wasn't originally looking for, like the fact it's clearly old converted office space complete with carpeted floors, but the owner seems pretty cool and they have a hot tub (or a sauna, the different amenities from the different gyms are blending together). First order of business is to try to get them to buy a safety squat bar, and find a tire for my backyard
Been benching 2-3 times a week for about a month and it’s starting to pay off.
Worked up to 3x3 with 90% and then three waves with 70, 80 and 85%
I'm going to have to have surgery on my shoulder, and my hip/back problems are improving but the pain is going to get worse before it gets better. I can't walk good any more.
That hip and back problem has been going on for a long long time, hasn't it? I imagine therapy to fix it is painful, but there must be some relief in knowing that in the future it will be much better.
Anyone have good experiences with any particular shiatsu massage pads on Amazon? Foam rolling helps, but my back and shoulders get so tight I know I'm eventually going to get injured. I'd love to see my massage therapist more often but I can't afford to so I'm figuring this might be a good enough solution between appointments.
@Mr. Buttons have you tried PVC for a roller or maybe taped two kettlebells together and worked that over your back or shoulders?
I just did this and thought it was great. I feel like it may be overkill for triceps/biceps. but I'm not particularly strong here so I did the regular bar for the first set, 30 pound bar for the overhead/curls, and 20 pound bar for the lying tricep extensions. I could barely get 10 lb dumbbells up all the way with the kick backs because my arms were jello;
I will put this in on alternate days between leg day, shoulder/back day, and the high intensity bodyweight/cardio day
That's probably what I'm mostly after, the euphoric state you can get in during and after a massage. Maybe I'll just pick up both. Get a little relaxation/mediation with the shoulder massage and really loosen things up with some heavy duty sewer pipe
Forgot how much I hated that shit.
Safety Squat Bar 8 x 70 / 6 x 120 / 4 x 160 / 2 x 190 / 1 x 210 / 1 x 220 / 8 x 140
Rack Deadlifts below the knee 5 x 70/ 5 x 110 / 5 x 140 / 2x5x160
Bout to finish off with some leg press. Gonna clear some food like a sumo squad
On that note about strong lifts though... The premium access for the app is absolutely ridiculous... A monthly subscription for a plate calculator and a list of warm-up and accessory exercises?