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    MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    so do i need to, like, disconnect from the internet for a week

    like, i can see the technical details of how these work, but what's the ultimate consequence? like, in laymans terms, what does this allow a bad actor to do? take over my system, get my private information?

    Let's them read through stuff going through the processor. At a personal level basically very little. It is more a cloud server issue as it allows folks to skip around encryption stuff I guess.

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    DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    To be fair, y'all could made some bank on this if you had bought AMD yesterday when the news broke.

    That guy needs to go down for insider trading though.

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    SleepSleep Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    Variant #2 (Spectre) basically means I can root kit the fuck out of any system by injecting my own instruction address into the branch prediction cache. :rotate:

    That’s amoreeeee

    Wait wait wait, so you can essentially just tell it where to put all the info you are looking for?

    Sleep on
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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    Thomasville, GA in southwest GA got some snow.

    This is the pretty deep south so people drove from miles away to see it, and it was the talk of the area.

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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    Tav wrote: »
    How does this effect me, the one person I care about

    Here's what you have to do
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    Hi I'm Vee!Hi I'm Vee! Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C E Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    the real question is how is this going to affect my gaming PC?

    although there's something deliciously capitalistic about the idea that everybody's gaming PCs will run 30% slower, so gamers end up buying higher-end processors to make up the difference and Intel ends up making money from this

    i'm guessing that's not how this works but the idea is funny and also not funny

    See Thom's statement above.

    There's a lot we still don't know, but gaming performance is unlikely to be severely affected by this.

    especially if you have a Skylake or Kaby Lake processor

    hmm mine is Devil's Canyon apparently

    wtf i had no idea processors had codenames

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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    the real question is how is this going to affect my gaming PC?

    although there's something deliciously capitalistic about the idea that everybody's gaming PCs will run 30% slower, so gamers end up buying higher-end processors to make up the difference and Intel ends up making money from this

    i'm guessing that's not how this works but the idea is funny and also not funny

    See Thom's statement above.

    There's a lot we still don't know, but gaming performance is unlikely to be severely affected by this.

    especially if you have a Skylake or Kaby Lake processor

    hmm mine is Devil's Canyon apparently

    What is, "old timey name for female genitalia", Alex.

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    Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    Tav wrote: »
    How does this effect me, the one person I care about

    Do you run a lot of cpu intensive processes like rendering or massive video/art projects? Minimal. Just patch computer up and hope for the best.

    Its the cloud and banking world that are shaking right now.

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    BeNarwhalBeNarwhal The Work Left Unfinished Registered User regular
    Orphane wrote: »
    Gf's roommate is opening his pork bun restaurant this year. Omg his bao is so good. The other day he magicked up a faux beef stir fry and it was barely distinguishable from the real thing, too, which was v impressive

    They're also doing custom sodas

    I will be fat

    will?

    I can't, in good conscience, awesome this, because EM is secretly a lovely person and is really rather svelte

    But by god I was so close to pulling the trigger, let me tell you

    One word jokes / burns get me every time

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    FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    edited January 2018
    so do i need to, like, disconnect from the internet for a week

    like, i can see the technical details of how these work, but what's the ultimate consequence? like, in laymans terms, what does this allow a bad actor to do? take over my system, get my private information?

    For home users, standard security recommendations apply: make sure your browser and operating system are up to date, don't run browser add-ons that you don't need, don't install a lot of crapware apps, run a decent antivirus program.

    In order to take advantage of the new vulnerabilities, a hypothetical attacker still has to trick your computer into running some kind of malware.

    The reason that so many people are shitting their pants over this is because this allows somebody who rents space on a cloud hosting provider to potentially access other customers' spaces on the same provider. That's not something that you, as a home user, can do much about.

    Feral on
    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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    ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    so do i need to, like, disconnect from the internet for a week

    like, i can see the technical details of how these work, but what's the ultimate consequence? like, in laymans terms, what does this allow a bad actor to do? take over my system, get my private information?

    Let's them read through stuff going through the processor. At a personal level basically very little. It is more a cloud server issue as it allows folks to skip around encryption stuff I guess.

    Basically anything can get out of sandbox. The big info sec fears I've been seeing have been two fold. Escaping VMs which is horrifying for enterprise customers. And the ability to have JS escape it's sandbox to do things like trying to grab passwords. So the solution is updating your patches. Right now there aren't any known malware using this in the wild. So the end of the world isn't upon us. But patch.

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    Hi I'm Vee!Hi I'm Vee! Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C E Registered User regular
    there are only 2 Devil's Canyon processors?

    is my CPU secretly garbage?

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    japanjapan Registered User regular
    Gf's roommate is opening his pork bun restaurant this year. Omg his bao is so good. The other day he magicked up a faux beef stir fry and it was barely distinguishable from the real thing, too, which was v impressive

    They're also doing custom sodas

    I will be fat

    What was his faux beef

    I ask because I stir fried aubergine marinated in miso this evening and it came out surprisingly meaty

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    matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    It's so cold a water main broke about a half mile from home yesterday. Shut the road down for 16 hours while they dug it up and fixed it. We're under a boil water order for 48 hours. Today, the city gov announced there's so much ice in the water at the pumping plant, we're also under a limit consumption notice, because the plant is struggling to pump water.

    4 more days until it even gets close to being above freezing...

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    MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    Thomamelas wrote: »
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    so do i need to, like, disconnect from the internet for a week

    like, i can see the technical details of how these work, but what's the ultimate consequence? like, in laymans terms, what does this allow a bad actor to do? take over my system, get my private information?

    Let's them read through stuff going through the processor. At a personal level basically very little. It is more a cloud server issue as it allows folks to skip around encryption stuff I guess.

    Basically anything can get out of sandbox. The big info sec fears I've been seeing have been two fold. Escaping VMs which is horrifying for enterprise customers. And the ability to have JS escape it's sandbox to do things like trying to grab passwords. So the solution is updating your patches. Right now there aren't any known malware using this in the wild. So the end of the world isn't upon us. But patch.

    Which you should be patching anyway.

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    Hi I'm Vee!Hi I'm Vee! Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C E Registered User regular
    japan wrote: »
    Gf's roommate is opening his pork bun restaurant this year. Omg his bao is so good. The other day he magicked up a faux beef stir fry and it was barely distinguishable from the real thing, too, which was v impressive

    They're also doing custom sodas

    I will be fat

    What was his faux beef

    I ask because I stir fried aubergine marinated in miso this evening and it came out surprisingly meaty

    his faux beef was pretending that Drake's callout in his latest album really offended him

    but it turns out the two are really good buddies and it was just an extended in-joke

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    BurnageBurnage Registered User regular
    BeNarwhal wrote: »
    Orphane wrote: »
    Gf's roommate is opening his pork bun restaurant this year. Omg his bao is so good. The other day he magicked up a faux beef stir fry and it was barely distinguishable from the real thing, too, which was v impressive

    They're also doing custom sodas

    I will be fat

    will?

    I can't, in good conscience, awesome this, because EM is secretly a lovely person and is really rather svelte

    But by god I was so close to pulling the trigger, let me tell you

    One word jokes / burns get me every time

    Yeah?

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    Hi I'm Vee!Hi I'm Vee! Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C E Registered User regular
    look last time i patched i lost like half an hour of streaming time and a bunch of viewers

    so i think the solution is to never patch

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    QanamilQanamil x Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    Thomasville, GA in southwest GA got some snow.

    This is the pretty deep south so people drove from miles away to see it, and it was the talk of the area.

    Charleston and Mt. Pleasant both go several inches and that's nutzo.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    It's so cold a water main broke about a half mile from home yesterday. Shut the road down for 16 hours while they dug it up and fixed it. We're under a boil water order for 48 hours. Today, the city gov announced there's so much ice in the water at the pumping plant, we're also under a limit consumption notice, because the plant is struggling to pump water.

    4 more days until it even gets close to being above freezing...

    Global climate change is a real bitch.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
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    DerrickDerrick Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    It's so cold a water main broke about a half mile from home yesterday. Shut the road down for 16 hours while they dug it up and fixed it. We're under a boil water order for 48 hours. Today, the city gov announced there's so much ice in the water at the pumping plant, we're also under a limit consumption notice, because the plant is struggling to pump water.

    4 more days until it even gets close to being above freezing...

    Global climate change is a real bitch.

    Not sure about Matt's area, but Baltimore blows a main water main about once a month. Seems like more often, sometimes, TBH. They refuse to fix the system comprehensively, so... I mean yeah, global climate change is going to fuck a lot of shit, but the problems here aren't really to do with that. They are still using wood pipes as originally laid in olden times in some areas. Shit is ridic.

    Also, I had planned on working from home for a while. Instead I've gotten a bit tipsy on champagne.

    So it goes.

    Steam and CFN: Enexemander
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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    Seveneves was really good even if
    The genetics bit towards the end is basically 30 years out of date.

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    BeNarwhalBeNarwhal The Work Left Unfinished Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    It's so cold a water main broke about a half mile from home yesterday. Shut the road down for 16 hours while they dug it up and fixed it. We're under a boil water order for 48 hours. Today, the city gov announced there's so much ice in the water at the pumping plant, we're also under a limit consumption notice, because the plant is struggling to pump water.

    4 more days until it even gets close to being above freezing...

    Global climate change is a real bitch.

    We're selling this one as a "Classic Canadian" winter.

    Which, admittedly, it does largely feel like so far. That it occasionally hits temperatures colder than the surface of Mars really isn't THAT bad.

    Catastrophic for places not used to nor prepared for this kind of weather? Sure, I can see that.

    But so far climate change is just saying "toughen up, pussies!", in my opinion.

    Do you really NEED land to live on or water to drink or for entire continents to not be on fire? I feel like those are more WANTS than NEEDS, to be honest.

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    MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    Also yay I have Kabylake so I am mostly safe.

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    FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    so do i need to, like, disconnect from the internet for a week

    like, i can see the technical details of how these work, but what's the ultimate consequence? like, in laymans terms, what does this allow a bad actor to do? take over my system, get my private information?

    For home users, standard security recommendations apply: make sure your browser and operating system are up to date, don't run browser add-ons that you don't need, don't install a lot of crapware apps, run a decent antivirus program.

    In order to take advantage of the new vulnerabilities, a hypothetical attacker still has to trick your computer into running some kind of malware.

    The reason that so many people are shitting their pants over this is because this allows somebody who rents space on a cloud hosting provider to potentially access other customers' spaces on the same provider. That's not something that you, as a home user, can do much about.

    Okay, the bolded is a bit of a lie.

    This is a possible vector for data leaks and identity theft.

    But everybody should be taking basic steps against identity theft anyway:

    - Stop reusing passwords. Use a password manager if you can.
    - Check your credit report once a year.
    - Consider getting a credit freeze.

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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    TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    *stuffs food in face*

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    DerrickDerrick Registered User regular
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    Also yay I have Kabylake so I am mostly safe.

    Oh Kabylake is good?

    Nice. *high five*

    I just built this guy. Was a little miffed about the news TBH. Nobody gives a shit about my data. I'd rather have the performance.

    Steam and CFN: Enexemander
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    BeNarwhalBeNarwhal The Work Left Unfinished Registered User regular
    Okay [chat] I'm going to dive into the world of video games for a bit, bat-signal if ya need / want me

    I'll also apparently be texting like I'm a 14 year old girl 'cause this lady is all about texting at the moment

    Be good, do good, all that good stuff! <3

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    matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    14 year old girls don't text they snap and insta god you're so old

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    MrMisterMrMister Jesus dying on the cross in pain? Morally better than us. One has to go "all in".Registered User regular
    Feral-sama, what's a good password manager?

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    nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    MrMister wrote: »
    Feral-sama, what's a good password manager?

    1password

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    Blameless ClericBlameless Cleric An angel made of sapphires each more flawlessly cut than the last Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    14 year old girls don't text they snap and insta god you're so old

    Even I don't really text very much

    Blameless Cleric on
    Orphane wrote: »

    one flower ring to rule them all and in the sunlightness bind them

    I'd love it if you took a look at my art and my PATREON!
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    BeNarwhalBeNarwhal The Work Left Unfinished Registered User regular
    14 year old girls don't text they snap and insta god you're so old

    (most of it IS being done through Snapchat which I hadn't used or had on my phone until yesterday and oh god what am I doing)

    Also whenever I check my credit report it just says "Quarantined". That's good, right?

    Also seriously now I am away, I want to get lost in a virtual world for a couple hours!

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    TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    mind to mind transfer

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    Blameless ClericBlameless Cleric An angel made of sapphires each more flawlessly cut than the last Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    BeNarwhal wrote: »
    14 year old girls don't text they snap and insta god you're so old

    (most of it IS being done through Snapchat which I hadn't used or had on my phone until yesterday and oh god what am I doing)

    Also whenever I check my credit report it just says "Quarantined". That's good, right?

    Also seriously now I am away, I want to get lost in a virtual world for a couple hours!

    Oh my God narwhal give me your snap so I can send you snaps of kitties I see on walks and sometimes Pinecone dancing when he doesn't know I'm looking (100% of my snap content is those things)

    Blameless Cleric on
    Orphane wrote: »

    one flower ring to rule them all and in the sunlightness bind them

    I'd love it if you took a look at my art and my PATREON!
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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    BeNarwhal wrote: »
    Okay [chat] I'm going to dive into the world of video games for a bit, bat-signal if ya need / want me

    I'll also apparently be texting like I'm a 14 year old girl 'cause this lady is all about texting at the moment

    Be good, do good, all that good stuff! <3

    Here, this should help
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    Blameless ClericBlameless Cleric An angel made of sapphires each more flawlessly cut than the last Registered User regular
    Trace wrote: »
    mind to mind transfer

    I'm ready

    Orphane wrote: »

    one flower ring to rule them all and in the sunlightness bind them

    I'd love it if you took a look at my art and my PATREON!
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    OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Have you ever had sex with a pharaoh?
    Put the pussy in a sarcophagus
    Now she claiming that I bruised her esophagus
    Head of the class and she just won a swallowship

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    OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Oh people should send me snaps. I almost never make them myself but I would enjoy leeching off others more

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    TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    2126559-bane.jpg

    *snap*

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