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I don't really wanna do the work today [Job Thread]

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    Then they whine about a skills-shortage when they can't get people with the qualifications they actually need.

    Like, it's actually pretty well documented now that the whole 'skills-shortage' thing is more or less PR bullshit by corporations trying to cover for the fact that they wanna pay half what someone can actually get with their job.

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    ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    Didgeridoo wrote: »
    They're looking for people who can't afford to refuse that question, you see

    From what I see in most postings, they seem to be looking for people who can't afford to ask any questions. So many of them feel like a list of demands, a bunch of skills they want and working requirements. And yet, won't have a word about what's in it for the employee. At best there'll be something vague about benefits, but often they don't even have that.

    I'm sure it's fine for recruiting from fresh grads or the unemployed, but as a dude who has a job currently, it's rare to see anything that would motivate me to make the effort.

    Scooter on
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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    Oghulk wrote: »
    Then they whine about a skills-shortage when they can't get people with the qualifications they actually need.

    Like, it's actually pretty well documented now that the whole 'skills-shortage' thing is more or less PR bullshit by corporations trying to cover for the fact that they wanna pay half what someone can actually get with their job.

    Job listing: unpaid internship
    Requirements: a doctorate and ten years experience in the field...

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    I get why they do it, I just don't get why they waste everyone's time.

    The ones you want to hire won't even make it past the first interview because they'll be too busy trying to contain their laughter and the other people that accept those levels of pay probably aren't the best employees either.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    Muggins wrote: »
    mcp wrote: »
    There should be a law that employers have to post the fucking salary range on job listings.

    That's a thing that just passed here in the Bay Area. Employers also won't be able to ask what you made previously.

    This is actually the law now California-wide. It's also law now that if you request it, a potential employer HAS to provide a pay range for the job.

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    tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Anything that bangs on in the ad about what a fun company they are I immediately write off as chancers looking to underpay. Mostly because 90% of the time that's all they talk about, in terms of benefits

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    SCREECH OF THE FARGSCREECH OF THE FARG #1 PARROTHEAD margaritavilleRegistered User regular
    i finally got my start date, i begin monday!

    thankfully i have a big wedding to go to saturday, so i can start things nice and hungover

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    "must be able to self manage"

    or

    "looking for a rockstar"

    means "you will be doing everything and we'll underpay you" but also "when shit goes wrong we'll berate you constantly until you break down mentally"

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    JansonJanson Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    @bowen that sucks about the woman in your office :(

    I had to take my car in today to get the tire replaced and my coworker wasn’t available to cover. I tried phoning my boss but got no answer.

    Was told my car would be done by 3 pm at the very latest, likely earlier. It was done by 3.15.

    I had no way of getting back to work and no one to call so I spent the whole day at Starbucks and Barnes & Noble. Came back to the office for 10 mins and I had left the phone off voicemail, whoops.

    Still, I think I escaped. Boss never did call and I had no emails. There’s just two people in the office and they probably didn’t even notice my absence. As long as the CEO didn’t try calling (he shouldn’t have, but he might’ve) I think I got away with not working today.

    Janson on
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    RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    Employees want to get paid enough to pay off college debt when they are young enough to endure heavy drinking celebrating paying off college debt.

    Employers want to pay enough so that they can brag about how under budget they do their business and all the profit they have to investors.


    Oh duck, I am awake again.

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    JansonJanson Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    Employers want to pay enough so that they can brag about how under budget they do their business and all the profit they have to investors.
    And to sneak themselves mega-bonuses : )))

    Janson on
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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    korodullin wrote: »
    Also I don't want to say too much because it's still super early times, but there is a chance that I might be able to snag a job at BMW working warehouse under a really cool dude.

    The downside is that it'd be night shift.

    The upside is that it would be guaranteed eight hour days and five day weeks, since there are already three set shifts and a weekend crew of part-timers.

    Oh, and I'd be getting paid $25,000 more a year.

    I'll be finding out more within a few weeks hopefully.

    How much lye are we talking?

    A barrel? More than a barrel?

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    MysstMysst King Monkey of Hedonism IslandRegistered User regular
    Oghulk wrote: »
    It was 16 degrees when I went out this morning

    I don't think I can remember a time it's been this cold before. Without wind!

    dude I was four layers all damn day, even in the sun

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    Mysst wrote: »
    Oghulk wrote: »
    It was 16 degrees when I went out this morning

    I don't think I can remember a time it's been this cold before. Without wind!

    dude I was four layers all damn day, even in the sun

    Yeah my leather jacket and gloves were good enough, but I seriously don't remember a time it was this cold before.

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    Also: hello crippling depression over life choices regarding my job. Boy I wish I had someone to talk to about this other than my father.

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    BlazeFireBlazeFire Registered User regular
    :bro:

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    RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    I have cooked a good meal, and will be ready for work.

    It is raining cats and dogs and I suspect all my clients will trip their alarms on the way out.

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    DisruptedCapitalistDisruptedCapitalist I swear! Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    Oghulk wrote: »
    I've also had kids I let go to the bathroom and then not come back until literally 2 minutes before class and whoops you get a referral for just skipping class

    I have to sympathize with Oghulk's predicament. It sucks that bathroom breaks are so tightly controlled that students have to beg during classes, but it's also prone to a lot of abuse.

    I've been teaching an after school class for the past several months and generally the students want to be there and will be respectful. But I've had a few like Oghulk mentions in the quote where they take off at the beginning of class to "go to the bathroom" and then return at two minutes till the end smelling like smoke. I can only assume they think an after school program isn't real school so they can do whatever they want. Sometimes I've even had a few not come back because one of their regular teachers caught them smoking and they were kicked from the program. It's a shame because I can't devote time to the troubled students without neglecting the good students.

    Generally I try to give the students the benefit of the doubt, but I could easily see myself in a situation like Oghulk where the students must stay because of some school requirement beyond my control.

    DisruptedCapitalist on
    "Simple, real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time." -Mustrum Ridcully in Terry Pratchett's Hogfather p. 142 (HarperPrism 1996)
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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Oghulk wrote: »
    Also: hello crippling depression over life choices regarding my job. Boy I wish I had someone to talk to about this other than my father.

    Hey man, I'll talk with you if you want.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    edited January 2018
    I went to close a conference room after a Toastmasters session, and I found this note sitting upside down on a chair. Spoilered for size
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    Quick guys, someone needs our help!
    I may be bored from sitting here for ~3 hours without anything to do, and have another 2 hours to go.

    Veevee on
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    NightDragonNightDragon 6th Grade Username Registered User regular
    I can barely read that circa 1800's clogged pen writing

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    Oghulk wrote: »
    Also: hello crippling depression over life choices regarding my job. Boy I wish I had someone to talk to about this other than my father.

    Hey man, I'll talk with you if you want.

    I appreciate it. I got through the episode, thankfully I was able to recognize it for what it is and use coping mechanisms.

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    HacksawHacksaw J. Duggan Esq. Wrestler at LawRegistered User regular
    edited January 2018
    So I'm working on a show right now that some of you have probably heard about at some point (it had a spike in popularity during the Obama administration). Whoever is running the production is clearly a videogamer because I have noticed two things. One: all of the "carts" that are used to transport scenery are named after companion characters from Fallout 4. Literally all of them.

    Two: the production's department identifier labels are full of easter eggs, like this one:
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    He's holding a fucking elipsoidal reflector spotlight and I cannot be more in love with it.

    Hacksaw on
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    TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    Fishman wrote: »
    It always surprises me to be reminded how uncommon common decency really is.

    It makes my day when I actually get to deal with a decent person at work.
    This is why I like working for the government. That’s never a concern. I know how much everyone in the entire organisation makes because all pay scales are public knowledge. Everyone gets paid the same for the level they’re at and you all get the same increases.

    yup anyone here could look up my pay for last year if they knew my name and work place

    I've looked up co-workers before, which is really only an indication of how much overtime people work, since we're all on the same pay scale. Lemme tell you, some people are working an insane amount of overtime.

    TheStig on
    bnet: TheStig#1787 Steam: TheStig
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    MuzzmuzzMuzzmuzz Registered User regular
    Oh goodness, it’s so cold outside, the hookers are wearing sweatpants.

    Still wearing high heels and tiny fur lined jackets, which makes them look odd.

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    BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    I had a customer call in to cancel his card a hour or so ago, he had a charge from a cab company in another state. I explained to him that often times it bills out of state and a quick google of the company showed me that yes, they have cabs near where he was and yes their HQ is where it billed from.

    "I still don't trust it. I don't remember taking a cab"
    'You don't remember? Have you taken a cab at all in the last week or so?'
    "Well I might have the other night. I dunno. I blacked out at the bar and woke up at home so something happened"

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    lonelyahavalonelyahava Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~ Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    @Hacksaw My jealousy of you knows absolutely No bounds right now. You might say that it's Non-stop.

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    furlionfurlion Riskbreaker Lea MondeRegistered User regular
    korodullin wrote: »
    Also I don't want to say too much because it's still super early times, but there is a chance that I might be able to snag a job at BMW working warehouse under a really cool dude.

    The downside is that it'd be night shift.

    The upside is that it would be guaranteed eight hour days and five day weeks, since there are already three set shifts and a weekend crew of part-timers.

    Oh, and I'd be getting paid $25,000 more a year.

    I'll be finding out more within a few weeks hopefully.

    I work at BMW (not logistics though) and if you have any questions feel free to ask. I will say this though, all that shady shit that went down at your last job, BMW would totally do if they could get away with it. They just have a lot more eyes on them so they pretend to care more. It is less that they do not care about us, and more that they consider us incompetent replaceable peasants. Hate is a strong word but intense dislike is how most of management views us.

    sig.gif Gamertag: KL Retribution
    PSN:Furlion
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    BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    My first night as the back up support
    Chaos reigns and I handled it like I knew it
    It felt so odd yet familiar to be once again in semi charge of a group of people and the freedom to call shots on a 3000+ truck we somehow pulled it off. I had 3 call outs I just swapped out people
    I sent people where I needed them told others they had the choice of go here or go here
    Again it was just odd to have that level of power and work it

    People made fun of how I unlike some of other supports that I was honest and upfront and was willing to make calls based on what I saw.

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    Darth WaiterDarth Waiter Elrond Hubbard Mordor XenuRegistered User regular
    One of our transferred line cooks from another concept goes by 'C' and he is a very tall, black man who is very much in tune with the rap and hip-hop scene here in Dallas, so much so that he has given most of us our very own rapper names.

    Mine is 'White Ramekin.'

    This is a ramekin:

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    'Okay, C, I'll bite. Why is that my rap name?'

    'Because you white as hell and you hold ... all ... the sauce.'

    'I like it.'

    'Damn right you do, it's dope as fuck.'

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    BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    My rap name is big dough because I'm kneedy

    (Thats a cool nick name though)

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    stimtokolosstimtokolos Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    New job is now going better.
    I tried to fix the build shit. I fixed it somewhat, but it's still kind of cooked. I don't have the energy to fix it further.
    Now I've moved on to more "this needs to be fixed broadly" problems. This is probably going to be less frustrating for me to fix though and have a larger impact.

    It also feels less like an "I' fixing bad things." and more like "I'm improving things that can be improved." perspective is important.

    stimtokolos on
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    BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    My nickname in the Corps was Genasix because a lot of people thought I was a failed super solider project, a defective killbot, or not human as I did things above what most could do or the fact I just walked away from some pretty hairy situations that others did not.

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    oliver47oliver47 Registered User new member
    I still can't find motivation to stand up from bed

    You can easily check out whereabouts of your friends if you use this app. Chet it out for yourself. Its pretty easy
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    JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    Oghulk wrote: »
    Then they whine about a skills-shortage when they can't get people with the qualifications they actually need.

    Like, it's actually pretty well documented now that the whole 'skills-shortage' thing is more or less PR bullshit by corporations trying to cover for the fact that they wanna pay half what someone can actually get with their job.

    'Skills-shortage' is colloquial shorthand for 'minimally qualified for the position, and also willing to give regular handjobs to supervisor staff while working 80 hour weeks for no overtime pay, and also work for 10% less than the industry standard'

    Javen on
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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    10% less? Look at mister moneybags over here

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    RobonunRobonun It's all fun and games until someone pisses off China Registered User regular
    @Hacksaw My jealousy of you knows absolutely No bounds right now. You might say that it's Non-stop.

    Just once I wanna be in the room where it happens

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    honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    When that time comes you'll better not waste your shot.

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    RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    My rap name is condescending farter because that's what I'm getting written up on.

    Lost two horses, gained four dragons, I'll call that a good night.

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    3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    I don't have a rap name but two black guys at my wedding did have a rap battle to determine which one would get to be "my black friend" so that was great.

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