Ended up going something like 50/50 in the mid games I played yesterday to practice some lasers.
Sometimes I wonder if I'm not really playing aggressive enough. I seem to do okay early enough, putting on some decent harass and pressure. But I seem to have trouble turning that into kills. I seem to do more work by setting up snares or slows that the marksman can take advantage of than getting the kills myself. Also I probably have the tendency to play... safe? Might be the tendency of Normals to go a bit more ham, but if I see a opportunity to escape a fight that's going bad, I usually take it.
Also Sion feels like a dick that I can't really do anything to other than snare and let someone else fight. Nothing I really do seems to do enough damage that can actually stick to him.
At least I still seem to get B's and A's in games I still lost?
EDIT: You know, I can't even be mad when I lose when silly stuff like this happens.
How is Kayn? What's his playstyle like? He never seemed to interest me for some reason. I've played assasin jungles I liked like Eve, I've liked aggressive junglers like Olaf, but my favorite is Zac by far.
I just got him in a capsule, thinking about just sharding the BE, but curious about him more first.
I don't play anyone like kayn but one thing I found interesting about him is that he has some of the best base stats in the game and poor stat growth, so he's a potent counter jungler and early ganker but falls off later.
Okay, but the 90 BE shards aren't all that valuable, and they save you way more if you're using them on mastery upgrades, which was the topic?
I can't right now, but if you remind me later I'll chat a bit about Kayn. He's an interesting assassin / fighter combo in a single package, so that's pretty fun.
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It's hard to miss the damage and it adds up to pretty annoying damage. Cooldown is pretty similar to scorch so add scorch damage on top of it early on, plus Aery. If you happen to get the root off on someone that's goodnight. Q can miss pretty easily if you aren't tracking Fleet Footwork or they buy boots. W increases the value of your heal but using it a lot requires you to land Q's frequently or your AD to make a lot of mistakes and bullying the enemy with E makes them afraid to step up.
Against longer range champions it's probably a little more rough since Caitlyn can just push forever and try to trade with you to punish your shenanigans and if you take damage without landing a Q you're gonna wind up feeling it bad really quick.
The reworked Infinity Edge seems interesting, especially since it doesn't give crit by itself.
oh what the hell
I play marksman because I don't want to think about items (I just rush ie literally every game), and in general I am annoyed when they mess with the balance because I feel like it's always a nerf to my role
what am I going to build now...like on Caitlyn probably just rush BF+RFC, and on Jinx BF+Hurricane, but on Sivir, who would really like to keep stacking AD for a while, I don't like to get a full zeal item before finishing something AD. I suppose it wants you to build ER but if better have more AD than it does now if it doesn't do the thing with crit any more...
I'm actually surprised they haven't removed critical all together . They keep normalising it as much a's they can it ssems. They survived removing dodge, wonder why they don't just remove crit.
wow, so Essence Reaver will be a good item for Pantheon now; he has always had mana issues in Lane. Especially against tankier opponents whom he HAS to be aggressive with spears.
The reworked Infinity Edge seems interesting, especially since it doesn't give crit by itself.
oh what the hell
I play marksman because I don't want to think about items (I just rush ie literally every game), and in general I am annoyed when they mess with the balance because I feel like it's always a nerf to my role
what am I going to build now...like on Caitlyn probably just rush BF+RFC, and on Jinx BF+Hurricane, but on Sivir, who would really like to keep stacking AD for a while, I don't like to get a full zeal item before finishing something AD. I suppose it wants you to build ER but if better have more AD than it does now if it doesn't do the thing with crit any more...
Wouldn't you just build the standard BF+Zeal then finish IE?
That way you double your crit chance and you are doing true damage against the squishy other AD people on crits?
I don't understand how you wouldn't still try to complete IE first, but just make sure you pick up a zeal before you do. Is that much slower than building now?
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You don't want the true damage against the squishies as much, more against tanks. It converts a portion of the damage you deal on critical hits to true damage, making it a more significant increase in damage to a target with more armor.
The reworked Infinity Edge seems interesting, especially since it doesn't give crit by itself.
oh what the hell
I play marksman because I don't want to think about items (I just rush ie literally every game), and in general I am annoyed when they mess with the balance because I feel like it's always a nerf to my role
what am I going to build now...like on Caitlyn probably just rush BF+RFC, and on Jinx BF+Hurricane, but on Sivir, who would really like to keep stacking AD for a while, I don't like to get a full zeal item before finishing something AD. I suppose it wants you to build ER but if better have more AD than it does now if it doesn't do the thing with crit any more...
Wouldn't you just build the standard BF+Zeal then finish IE?
That way you double your crit chance and you are doing true damage against the squishy other AD people on crits?
I don't understand how you wouldn't still try to complete IE first, but just make sure you pick up a zeal before you do. Is that much slower than building now?
I am not convinced that IE works as an early game buy any more at all, although I'm not sure. I'll probably just follow whatever the consensus build ends up being.
Also I don't usually buy BF and Zeal, except on Caitlyn--I tend to just rush IE with a dagger or two thrown in. I don't think this is necessarily right, but it's what I'm used to.
Speaking of ADC builds, I just tried the boots+4 pots then rush swifties build that the casters were talking about during MSI for Jhin--it feels really good! Or it did with Karma as my partner supplying all the damage against Varus/Nami. Karma was super bossy and even told me when to recall while I was splitting! But that was awesome, actually--I just had to worry about micro while someone else called all the shots. Really pleasant win, even though I thought I'd be doomed with a Leblanc on the other team.
Karthus got played in the MSI play ins in a press all the R's comp. Ormn, Karthus, Nocturne, Jihn, with a Karma support. Loved watching him get some pro play.
Realized how bad I am at cs. I guess I should do the drill everyone talks about. Spend time in a practice game until you get perfect cs at 10 min right? Or something like that?
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If you cant get 95% of uncontested cs you are leaving a lot of gold on the table and I think you’ll get a lot of benefit from practicing.
Once you can reliably do that, move on to csing while trading with a bot.
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If you cant get 95% of uncontested cs you are leaving a lot of gold on the table and I think you’ll get a lot of benefit from practicing.
Once you can reliably do that, move on to csing while trading with a bot.
How do you do this without getting bored out of your mind? Was in a bot game earlier for FWoTD. Practied perfect CS, then started pushing the lane. Now, I did get pretty good cs, getting most of it, but don't feel like I got any practice lol.
It's mechanics training so you don't actually have to think about CSing any more. Ideally, CS should be a task that takes almost none of your mental circuits, so you can focus on what your opposing laner is doing. Obviously, if you're entirely focused on getting all the CS, you're not watching your opponent.
It's mechanics training so you don't actually have to think about CSing any more. Ideally, CS should be a task that takes almost none of your mental circuits, so you can focus on what your opposing laner is doing. Obviously, if you're entirely focused on getting all the CS, you're not watching your opponent.
My big thing with missing cs is misjudging the kill getting it just quite, or my characters as. Or, in the case of karthus sometimes, my Q, or hitting another minion with my Q.
It's mechanics training so you don't actually have to think about CSing any more. Ideally, CS should be a task that takes almost none of your mental circuits, so you can focus on what your opposing laner is doing. Obviously, if you're entirely focused on getting all the CS, you're not watching your opponent.
My big thing with missing cs is misjudging the kill getting it just quite, or my characters as. Or, in the case of karthus sometimes, my Q, or hitting another minion with my Q.
This kind of thing is exactly what the training is about preventing. Choose your character, start out exactly as you would in a regular game and kill a shit-ton of minions. I practiced csing a lot along time ago, and while I'm not perfect and honestly quite rusty since I don't play a lot anymore, I very rarely lose CS to those reasons. Unless I'm trying a new character, where I'm not familiar with their damage.
As a side note to this, it's also useful to learn at what break points re. items and leveling your abilities will one-shot caster and melee minions. For instance, most mages start to be able to take out the casters with 3 ranks in their AoE nuke and an AP item.
Become a support. Make someone on the other team lose CS instead.
These are of course options if you want to play boring league :P
Jungle is also horribly overtuned right now and gets to decide the entire game almost single handedly and support is also really strong. I can't speak for playing as a jungler but it's probably fun being carry number one on your team and supporting is great because, assuming you're not terrible, you can impact the game in a very meaningful way (ward lane, help jungler make enemy jungler miserable, roam mid because fuck mid).
Support is also really fun because you're literally fighting all lane and actually doing things. In all of my Soraka games I don't think I've placed anywhere below third highest damage on my team.
As Soraka.
Also I'm torn by new support probably gonna be busted and I might actually get my secondary role for once. Don't want to spend the extra blue essence but high odds I want to play him so iunno.
Oh this is great; there isn't really a support with a proper malevolent aesthetic. Zyra and Brand are sort of the closest and neither quite fits the bill.
Sometimes you don't want to be all cute and graceful and helpful in style, even if that ends up being your team role...(I mean hell, sometimes as Jhin you end up being a helpful stun-bot, but you always feel really lethal and cool anyway because you're constantly talking about murdering people )
Oh this is great; there isn't really a support with a proper malevolent aesthetic. Zyra and Brand are sort of the closest and neither quite fits the bill.
Sometimes you don't want to be all cute and graceful and helpful in style, even if that ends up being your team role...(I mean hell, sometimes as Jhin you end up being a helpful stun-bot, but you always feel really lethal and cool anyway because you're constantly talking about murdering people )
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Sometimes I wonder if I'm not really playing aggressive enough. I seem to do okay early enough, putting on some decent harass and pressure. But I seem to have trouble turning that into kills. I seem to do more work by setting up snares or slows that the marksman can take advantage of than getting the kills myself. Also I probably have the tendency to play... safe? Might be the tendency of Normals to go a bit more ham, but if I see a opportunity to escape a fight that's going bad, I usually take it.
Also Sion feels like a dick that I can't really do anything to other than snare and let someone else fight. Nothing I really do seems to do enough damage that can actually stick to him.
At least I still seem to get B's and A's in games I still lost?
EDIT: You know, I can't even be mad when I lose when silly stuff like this happens.
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If you just stick to the 450 BE champions you should have shards for them out your ears.
(Personally, Riot likes giving me Olaf shards. I've had at least 5 since this system started.)
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The ability to Nope.jpg assassins seems super critical at my elo
I just got him in a capsule, thinking about just sharding the BE, but curious about him more first.
I still have a lot of champions to buy.
Okay, but the 90 BE shards aren't all that valuable, and they save you way more if you're using them on mastery upgrades, which was the topic?
I can't right now, but if you remind me later I'll chat a bit about Kayn. He's an interesting assassin / fighter combo in a single package, so that's pretty fun.
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Have you heard of a little lady named Lulu? Nobody messes with assassins harder than Lulu.
That’s the silence/root right? What is making this broke now?
Against longer range champions it's probably a little more rough since Caitlyn can just push forever and try to trade with you to punish your shenanigans and if you take damage without landing a Q you're gonna wind up feeling it bad really quick.
The reworked Infinity Edge seems interesting, especially since it doesn't give crit by itself.
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oh what the hell
I play marksman because I don't want to think about items (I just rush ie literally every game), and in general I am annoyed when they mess with the balance because I feel like it's always a nerf to my role
what am I going to build now...like on Caitlyn probably just rush BF+RFC, and on Jinx BF+Hurricane, but on Sivir, who would really like to keep stacking AD for a while, I don't like to get a full zeal item before finishing something AD. I suppose it wants you to build ER but if better have more AD than it does now if it doesn't do the thing with crit any more...
Wouldn't you just build the standard BF+Zeal then finish IE?
That way you double your crit chance and you are doing true damage against the squishy other AD people on crits?
I don't understand how you wouldn't still try to complete IE first, but just make sure you pick up a zeal before you do. Is that much slower than building now?
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I am not convinced that IE works as an early game buy any more at all, although I'm not sure. I'll probably just follow whatever the consensus build ends up being.
Also I don't usually buy BF and Zeal, except on Caitlyn--I tend to just rush IE with a dagger or two thrown in. I don't think this is necessarily right, but it's what I'm used to.
Realized how bad I am at cs. I guess I should do the drill everyone talks about. Spend time in a practice game until you get perfect cs at 10 min right? Or something like that?
Once you can reliably do that, move on to csing while trading with a bot.
How do you do this without getting bored out of your mind? Was in a bot game earlier for FWoTD. Practied perfect CS, then started pushing the lane. Now, I did get pretty good cs, getting most of it, but don't feel like I got any practice lol.
My big thing with missing cs is misjudging the kill getting it just quite, or my characters as. Or, in the case of karthus sometimes, my Q, or hitting another minion with my Q.
This kind of thing is exactly what the training is about preventing. Choose your character, start out exactly as you would in a regular game and kill a shit-ton of minions. I practiced csing a lot along time ago, and while I'm not perfect and honestly quite rusty since I don't play a lot anymore, I very rarely lose CS to those reasons. Unless I'm trying a new character, where I'm not familiar with their damage.
As a side note to this, it's also useful to learn at what break points re. items and leveling your abilities will one-shot caster and melee minions. For instance, most mages start to be able to take out the casters with 3 ranks in their AoE nuke and an AP item.
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These are of course options if you want to play boring league :P
I bet he and jhin are going to BFFs.
Support is also really fun because you're literally fighting all lane and actually doing things. In all of my Soraka games I don't think I've placed anywhere below third highest damage on my team.
As Soraka.
Also I'm torn by new support probably gonna be busted and I might actually get my secondary role for once. Don't want to spend the extra blue essence but high odds I want to play him so iunno.
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Oh this is great; there isn't really a support with a proper malevolent aesthetic. Zyra and Brand are sort of the closest and neither quite fits the bill.
Sometimes you don't want to be all cute and graceful and helpful in style, even if that ends up being your team role...(I mean hell, sometimes as Jhin you end up being a helpful stun-bot, but you always feel really lethal and cool anyway because you're constantly talking about murdering people
Thresh?