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[Heroes of the Storm 2.0] the softest of wet farts

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  • WingedWeaselWingedWeasel Registered User regular
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwocTuiY76w

    Holy shit some of these clips were insane. Can't even say which was the best. Maybe Sumaro?

    I think I liked the Azmodan one the most but the clip could have been setup better by not starting off focusing on Azmodan so the hit came as a surprise instead of the audience knowing it was coming from a mile off.

    I have a bunch of game keys that have been building up from Humble Bundle over the years so if any of you want one its first come first serve.

    For Origin I have - Burnout Paradise: The Ultimate Box, Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3 - Uprising, Crysis 2 Maximum Edition, Medal of Honor, and Mirror's Edge.

    For Steam I have all of those mentioned above and - Life is Strange Complete Season, and Snake Pass

    Let me know if you want one and I'll message you the key.

    the ETC/hanzo boss steal far and away. although the d.va body block was pretty savage

    i want that riding dirty remix though

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks High Mucky Muck Big Tits TownRegistered User regular
    Dibby wrote: »
    idfk

    i can't win

    i literally cannot win a single game

    doesn't matter who i play

    i can play my best heroes (like tyrael or sonya) and it doesn't matter

    i am on the biggest losing streak i have ever been on right now, it is insane

    literally every game i get the potatoes and the enemy team has the well oiled machine. how is that possible? am i just that unlucky? i guess so. or maybe i just suck really bad.

    i forgot what it's like to have fun in this game

    Join me in the land of "any other fucking game but Hots", man.

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  • WingedWeaselWingedWeasel Registered User regular
    milk ducks wrote: »
    Dibby wrote: »
    idfk

    i can't win

    i literally cannot win a single game

    doesn't matter who i play

    i can play my best heroes (like tyrael or sonya) and it doesn't matter

    i am on the biggest losing streak i have ever been on right now, it is insane

    literally every game i get the potatoes and the enemy team has the well oiled machine. how is that possible? am i just that unlucky? i guess so. or maybe i just suck really bad.

    i forgot what it's like to have fun in this game

    Join me in the land of "any other fucking game but Hots", man.

    yeah i realized the other day that i just have zero compulsion to play hots currently.

  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    edited February 2018
    I still play a little, and only really unranked. Also picking my heavy comfort picks has done me well. Zag is just so good.

    Aside from that, I've actually started something from my steam backlog *gasp*

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    To be fair Dibby, you did literally win 2 in that pic. :)
    Yep, he literally cannot win a single game at this point.

    Officially the unluckiest CCG player ever.
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  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    I'd recommend Slay the Spire. It's in early access but plays like a finished game. Really fun card-game mechanics a la MtG and Hearthstone combined with rogue-like dungeon crawling. Plus it is only $15.

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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    it's gonna be weird when there's finally a slay the spire thread and it turns out to just be the HotS/Hearthstone thread

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  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    Yeah it's going to be stealing both my (non-mobile) Hearthstone time, and my HotS time for the foreseeable future.

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    Fine! I made a Slay the Spire thread! It's super good, go play it!

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  • SmrtnikSmrtnik job boli zub Registered User regular
    Waffen wrote: »
    Q quest takes time for me and 100% depends on the comp I’m facing. Traditional / fat bodies? Ez. When it’s all small, mobile heroes I’m lucky to finish it

    I like when the stupid melee in mid lane goes on way too long and i complete Chromie q a few minutes in because enemy team choose not to leave mid.

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  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    Smrtnik wrote: »
    Waffen wrote: »
    Q quest takes time for me and 100% depends on the comp I’m facing. Traditional / fat bodies? Ez. When it’s all small, mobile heroes I’m lucky to finish it

    I like when the stupid melee in mid lane goes on way too long and i complete Chromie q a few minutes in because enemy team choose not to leave mid.

    Yeah that's awesome for a bunch of similar quest heroes, like KT (both KTs)

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  • General_ArmchairGeneral_Armchair Registered User regular
    Smrtnik wrote: »
    Waffen wrote: »
    Q quest takes time for me and 100% depends on the comp I’m facing. Traditional / fat bodies? Ez. When it’s all small, mobile heroes I’m lucky to finish it

    I like when the stupid melee in mid lane goes on way too long and i complete Chromie q a few minutes in because enemy team choose not to leave mid.

    I like when this happens and I can score that sweet sweet Alarak triple hit to instantly complete his lightning or discord strike quests. It's such a great feeling.

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  • SmrtnikSmrtnik job boli zub Registered User regular
    kime wrote: »
    Smrtnik wrote: »
    Waffen wrote: »
    Q quest takes time for me and 100% depends on the comp I’m facing. Traditional / fat bodies? Ez. When it’s all small, mobile heroes I’m lucky to finish it

    I like when the stupid melee in mid lane goes on way too long and i complete Chromie q a few minutes in because enemy team choose not to leave mid.

    Yeah that's awesome for a bunch of similar quest heroes, like KT (both KTs)

    They should make more heroes with the same initials imo.

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  • Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    I want to play more hots but nobody is ever on anymore qq

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  • SaerisSaeris Borb Enthusiast flapflapflapflapRegistered User regular
    edited February 2018
    Knight_ wrote: »
    I want to play more hots but nobody is ever on anymore qq

    Add me: Saeris#1630. I'll play just about any time.

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  • morgan_cokemorgan_coke Registered User regular
    The beatings will continue until morale improves.

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    Outside of playing another game, I honestly don't know what to do anymore.

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  • SaerisSaeris Borb Enthusiast flapflapflapflapRegistered User regular
    For what it's worth, I've also experienced an unparalleled losing streak lately. I've had about a 20% win rate over the past two weeks, across ~20 games in QM plus ~10 games in unranked. I've never lost so much before.

    But... My teammates aren't even bad; they seem to play well enough, and only two or three of those matches were lost due to trolls. I just keep losing to team composition. Which is fine in quickmatch, since that's what you sign up for. But I can't explain how I keep getting outdrafted so badly in unranked. It almost feels like we need more bans available to keep up with the mobility creep.

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  • Waffles or whateverWaffles or whatever Previously known as, I shit you not, "Waffen" Registered User regular
    I chuckled when a few months ago Blizzard was like, "Why doesn't anyone want to play Mages anymore? We want people to play squishy Mages again!" without even glancing at the mobility hero dilema that makes playing squishy heroes unfun.

  • JookieJookie Registered User regular
    If you're all out of ideas start watching replays and look at what you're doing wrong. You. Not anybody else but you. Pause every couple of seconds so you can look at the map if you need to, look when you take fights when certain cooldowns are up/down, etc. Take a bad fight because someone showed up since you weren't paying attention to the map.

    Score screens leave out a significant portion of information. Also deathless can be a bad thing, too focused on stats rather than willing to go in and use your health bar as a resource. You don't need to come out of every fight alive, just ahead.

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  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    edited February 2018
    Waffen wrote: »
    I chuckled when a few months ago Blizzard was like, "Why doesn't anyone want to play Mages anymore? We want people to play squishy Mages again!" without even glancing at the mobility hero dilema that makes playing squishy heroes unfun.

    hey remember when they changed Garrosh's Q because they wanted to improve counterplay in non-counterplay heroes like that

    and they said they were going to keep doing it

    did they just like, forget

    fuckin' obliterate Genji's E already goddamn

    i like mages as much as the next dude but yeah, fuck all this goddamn mobility creep and hyper mobility heroes

    can't play mages when literally every hero is capable of jumpin' your shit

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  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    Saeris wrote: »
    For what it's worth, I've also experienced an unparalleled losing streak lately. I've had about a 20% win rate over the past two weeks, across ~20 games in QM plus ~10 games in unranked. I've never lost so much before.

    But... My teammates aren't even bad; they seem to play well enough, and only two or three of those matches were lost due to trolls. I just keep losing to team composition. Which is fine in quickmatch, since that's what you sign up for. But I can't explain how I keep getting outdrafted so badly in unranked. It almost feels like we need more bans available to keep up with the mobility creep.

    Dunk's been saying for a while that the game is ready to go up to 4 bans a side, nevermind just adding another set. I'm inclined to agree.

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  • Waffles or whateverWaffles or whatever Previously known as, I shit you not, "Waffen" Registered User regular
    Dibby wrote: »
    Waffen wrote: »
    I chuckled when a few months ago Blizzard was like, "Why doesn't anyone want to play Mages anymore? We want people to play squishy Mages again!" without even glancing at the mobility hero dilema that makes playing squishy heroes unfun.

    hey remember when they changed Garrosh's Q because they wanted to improve counterplay in non-counterplay heroes like that

    and they said they were going to keep doing it

    did they just like, forget

    fuckin' obliterate Genji's E already goddamn

    i like mages as much as the next dude but yeah, fuck all this goddamn mobility creep and hyper mobility heroes

    can't play mages when literally every hero is capable of jumpin' your shit

    That's what's really ruining this game for me. I'm just tired of hyper mobility heroes in every game. I can't really play the heroes I like (Mages) anymore without having super mobility heroes just push my crap in every single game.

  • Custom SpecialCustom Special I know I am, I'm sure I am, I'm Sounders 'til I die!Registered User regular
    Honestly, the solution to everyone's complaints is just more Blaze.
    Cyber Ninja jumps on you? 420 Blaze it.
    Invisible Ninja jumps on you? 420 Blaze it.
    Werewolf Ninja jumps on you? 420 Blaze it.

    All Blaze, all the time.
    Now where's my Mecha Blaze skin?!

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  • morgan_cokemorgan_coke Registered User regular
    Jookie wrote: »
    If you're all out of ideas start watching replays and look at what you're doing wrong. You. Not anybody else but you. Pause every couple of seconds so you can look at the map if you need to, look when you take fights when certain cooldowns are up/down, etc. Take a bad fight because someone showed up since you weren't paying attention to the map.

    Score screens leave out a significant portion of information. Also deathless can be a bad thing, too focused on stats rather than willing to go in and use your health bar as a resource. You don't need to come out of every fight alive, just ahead.

    I also had most kills, bunches of camps, shrine captures, several key saves, the only reason I didn't top hero damage was because Kara fired off a seven sided right at the end of the game... like, literally, there was nothing more i could have done that game. I was all over the map, pulling ganks and covering pushes. Weight was just too much.

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  • General_ArmchairGeneral_Armchair Registered User regular
    Oh wow. I'm sure this must be the oldest of news, but I just realized that you chain all three of diablo's basic abilities together into a wombo combo. Fire stomp, then charge someone, and finally overpower them into the path of all of the returning flames. To think that I've just been using fire stomp as awkward aoe damage and wave clear.

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  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    Oh wow. I'm sure this must be the oldest of news, but I just realized that you chain all three of diablo's basic abilities together into a wombo combo. Fire stomp, then charge someone, and finally overpower them into the path of all of the returning flames. To think that I've just been using fire stomp as awkward aoe damage and wave clear.

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    That's not really that important, especially not compared to the combo when he dunks someone into Apocalypse.

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  • General_ArmchairGeneral_Armchair Registered User regular
    Yeah, it's kinda minor and probably isn't that great of an idea a lot of the time because it forecasts that you're about to charge, but it's still kinda neat.

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  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    Yeah, it's kinda minor and probably isn't that great of an idea a lot of the time because it forecasts that you're about to charge, but it's still kinda neat.

    It was a thing for a short while to do this.

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  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
    Yeah, it's kinda minor and probably isn't that great of an idea a lot of the time because it forecasts that you're about to charge, but it's still kinda neat.

    It used to be more important before they nerfed his W damage.

    It was in his old talent tree, you could buff the shit out of W damage and seriously chunk people with it. Not quite anymore.

    Though I guess that's what Devastating Charge is for now, huh.

    Or R->Q->E.

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  • gigawatt666gigawatt666 Registered User regular
    ive been digging on karazim alot lately. Single support?, no problem. Dub support? take the 'deeps' talents....

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  • Waffles or whateverWaffles or whatever Previously known as, I shit you not, "Waffen" Registered User regular
    Everytime I try to play Diablo I fail miserably at him. I just do not get him as a hero.

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    Waffen wrote: »
    Everytime I try to play Diablo I fail miserably at him. I just do not get him as a hero.

    I felt this way too. My experience was the QM special combo: Charge -> Flip -> Die. The problem was that the team wasn't committing with me. Diablo feels like he's an all-in nightmare. Like dude is all in your backline and has to be dealt with, which is where your teammates get mad value. With no escapes, he relies on teammates to do their thing.

    Sadly, in QM most people do their worst. :(

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  • Tim is on the InternetTim is on the Internet On the Internet Edmonton, ABRegistered User regular
    ive been digging on karazim alot lately. Single support?, no problem. Dub support? take the 'deeps' talents....

    Kharazim's great. There have a been a couple changes recently I don't agree with (namely the increase in Breath's cooldown), but you can get around them with Insight.

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  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    I think the thing with Diablo is that he's probably the hero that requires the most patience in the game (aside from maybe Valeera & Zera). You just have to wait and wait and wait until you can set up a combo that fucks someone up and doesn't put you in the middle of the enemy team.

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  • Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    Yea like 90% of diablo is anchoring while pressing w.

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  • General_ArmchairGeneral_Armchair Registered User regular
    edited February 2018
    I feel like the mobility creep really hurts Diablo too. Body blocking is particularly important with him, and that does not work against the likes of genji if they just back flip off the screen when your combo doesn't kill them outright.

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  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    Knight_ wrote: »
    Yea like 90% of diablo is anchoring while pressing w.

    Diablo's peel is incredibly underrated. In games where players know what he does, you can force them to reposition based on where you stand relative to them and a wall. So he has this sort of hidden vector of effect where "the ground is lava" and people will go out of their way to avoid walking.

    But in games where players don't know what he does, you play him like an ambush predator. You waddle around in plain sight and wait for someone to walk between you and a wall, and then you blow them up when they wander up all like, "Hey guys wha-" SLAM FLIP BOOM.

  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    edited February 2018
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    Waffen wrote: »
    Everytime I try to play Diablo I fail miserably at him. I just do not get him as a hero.

    I felt this way too. My experience was the QM special combo: Charge -> Flip -> Die. The problem was that the team wasn't committing with me. Diablo feels like he's an all-in nightmare. Like dude is all in your backline and has to be dealt with, which is where your teammates get mad value. With no escapes, he relies on teammates to do their thing.

    Sadly, in QM most people do their worst. :(

    I don't mean to rag on you specifically, Dover, but after thinking about this some more I think there could be a lesson to be learned here. It's something I realized when playing as and with Taunt Varian, and I now realize mostly applies to Diablo as well: You can't feasibly expect your DPS to follow you in when you dive, because you're using a movement ability to engage and DPS plays should (generally) not be doing that. If you used Shadow Charge or... well, Charge to get to your target, it doesn't matter than you're CCing them, because you just bolted away from your DPS who could actually follow up on it and your support that could keep you alive. You're physically out of their damage and heal range, and if they blow escapes to engage with you they're sitting ducks for the counter-engage.

    Which then all comes back to the patience thing. You have to plan out where your CC is going to land, and look for opportunities where you can set up the kill for your DPS without forcing them to overextend for it. Which further goes to Ant's point just above, where playing both of those heroes in a peel role is extremely potent, as they turn the area just around your team into a killzone, severely limiting the opposing tank and melee assassin's options.

    Now, if the other team is mostly sustained range damage/poke-based, necessitating that you engage on them or just get worn down, the solution is probably just to play any other tank than Diablo (unless your team can capably go full dive which is likely not the case).

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  • DibbyDibby I'll do my best! Registered User regular
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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    Oh I learned those Diablo lessons well. It's like the old saying:

    A strange Hero. The only winning move is not to Q. How about a nice game of chess Slay the Spire?

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