Yeah, Smith is only a slight downgrade from Cousins at worst, albeit 4 years older. I'll be really curious to see the numbers on that extension. And so will Cousins' agent.
I feel way better about Alex Smith on that price tag than I do about Cousins on whatever ludicrous deal he's going to come away with. Neither of them is likely to win you anything more than a wild card game without an awesome roster around them, and Washington will have more cap space to work with to build one. They'll screw it up, of course, because they ran their only half-decent talent evaluator out of town, but it works in theory.
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I mean, if they would've signed Cousins a year or two ago they probably could've gotten him for a similar price as they just paid for Smith, and Cousins is better and younger.
It's not just $94M, but that $71M of it is guaranteed. Depending on the wording on the guarantees, this is a committment to Smith for the full four seasons. He'll be 38 at the end of it.
(Unless the salary cap is going to go up by a LOT in the next four years, which it might. In which case, it could turn out to be cheaper than it looks if the QB market resets itself a couple times in the next four years.)
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Football outsiders has Cousins ranked better in the previous 3 years. This year Smith was better, but his team's offense was also way better than Washington's.
It's not just $94M, but that $71M of it is guaranteed. Depending on the wording on the guarantees, this is a committment to Smith for the full four seasons. He'll be 38 at the end of it.
Per Schefter it's 5 and he'll be 39 at the end of it. Had one year left on his old deal, the extension adds four
If you knew you wouldn’t die, would you get hit by a bus for 71-94 million dollars?
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I disagree Washington has had a bad offense - they were just injury ravaged
Jordan reed, Jamison crowder, chris Thompson, a solid o line, Vernon Davis, doctson, rob Kelley (and they had Pryor)
There WAS talent, before injuries - you can see it in cousins' month by month decline this year
KC, obviously, has more though
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I don't think Washington has a bad offense, I just think they have an offense more suited to a big armed gunslinger type QB instead of a game manager like Smith.
Man, I wanted Alex Smith to go to a team I could root for.
I don't follow the Redskins but at a glance Kendall Fuller seems like a baller and the dude is only 22. Plus we got a 3rd round pick? Seems like a great trade.
This is pretty funny. Kendall Fuller was on twitter last night when Schefter announced the trade.
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I disagree Washington has had a bad offense - they were just injury ravaged
Jordan reed, Jamison crowder, chris Thompson, a solid o line, Vernon Davis, doctson, rob Kelley (and they had Pryor)
There WAS talent, before injuries - you can see it in cousins' month by month decline this year
KC, obviously, has more though
They were just outside the bottom 10 of the league, 22nd in the league to be exact, per Football Outsiders (largely due to having the 28th ranked rushing offense), vs KC which was ranked 7th.
Jacksonville has stayed they're going with Bortles for the future.
Denver makes a lot of sense though.
Don't put this evil on us Ricky Bobby!
Signing Kirk Cousins to a mega-deal would destroy the franchise for at least the next five years.
He's not that good! I mean, he's an improvement, but not a SUPER BOWL improvement. He's an 8-8 "improvement".
And the worse thing for a team is a half a decade of 7-9 and 10-6 and first and second round playoff exits.
Take a shot at a potential franchise qb, let this defense that has obviously peaked trickle out and go, and re-build through the draft and free agency.
Denver is already in cap hell, aren't they? I don't know how they legitimize paying Cousins 30 million, or whatever. If it's money that he wants, Cleveland it will be.
Denver is already in cap hell, aren't they? I don't know how they legitimize paying Cousins 30 million, or whatever. If it's money that he wants, Cleveland it will be.
I'm pretty sure everyone important is under contract and Denver has JUST ENOUGH to make him a big offer.
But that would indeed put us in cap hell. Which raises all sorts of problems for the next three or four years.
Talib's gonna be gone soonish, but Roby's gonna get a big number to replace him and Von will eventually be the highest paid linbacker in the league. With an albatross contract for Captain Kirk that's gonna be like, 50% of our salary cap space right there.
And an average QB who will kill you with crucial picks occasionally is NOT WORTH THAT MUCH.
Especially when you have a 1 in 5 shot of hitting the QB lottery this year by getting a franchise guy on the best contract in football, the rookie deal, with rhe worst case scenario being we get MORE SHOTS AT FRANCHISE GUYS.
I know the big issue here though is Von, who's not gonna be happy playing for a loser, but, I mean, we've already seen the best of Von Miller. It's amazing, fantastic, borderline MVP level, but he's not going to get any better. Unloading him for assets in the next two years is undeniably the right choice.
Pinning the entire franchise on a mediocre qb and a linebacker who's not gonna be happy with anything less than a Super Bowl apoerance is the wrong move.
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True, but I think they made the move so that they stayed relatively even when they let go of Captain Kirk.
Kirk is gonna get fucking paaaaaaiiiiid
(Unless the salary cap is going to go up by a LOT in the next four years, which it might. In which case, it could turn out to be cheaper than it looks if the QB market resets itself a couple times in the next four years.)
Per Schefter it's 5 and he'll be 39 at the end of it. Had one year left on his old deal, the extension adds four
Cousins is a free agent today
Browns lost on getting Smith
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If you knew you wouldn’t die, would you get hit by a bus for 71-94 million dollars?
Jordan reed, Jamison crowder, chris Thompson, a solid o line, Vernon Davis, doctson, rob Kelley (and they had Pryor)
There WAS talent, before injuries - you can see it in cousins' month by month decline this year
KC, obviously, has more though
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I don't follow the Redskins but at a glance Kendall Fuller seems like a baller and the dude is only 22. Plus we got a 3rd round pick? Seems like a great trade.
This is pretty funny. Kendall Fuller was on twitter last night when Schefter announced the trade.
They were just outside the bottom 10 of the league, 22nd in the league to be exact, per Football Outsiders (largely due to having the 28th ranked rushing offense), vs KC which was ranked 7th.
http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamoff
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I'm not a fan
I'd guess Denver.
Maybe Jacksonville.
Denver makes a lot of sense though.
Difficult to say, but I think this might be the single worst take of all time
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Reading this made me dumber, I think.
I get that everyone hates the Pats but jesus this is ridiculous.
Don't put this evil on us Ricky Bobby!
Signing Kirk Cousins to a mega-deal would destroy the franchise for at least the next five years.
He's not that good! I mean, he's an improvement, but not a SUPER BOWL improvement. He's an 8-8 "improvement".
And the worse thing for a team is a half a decade of 7-9 and 10-6 and first and second round playoff exits.
Take a shot at a potential franchise qb, let this defense that has obviously peaked trickle out and go, and re-build through the draft and free agency.
Denver is already in cap hell, aren't they? I don't know how they legitimize paying Cousins 30 million, or whatever. If it's money that he wants, Cleveland it will be.
I mean, you say this, but Nick Foles IS a Super Bowl quarterback and he's right there.
What a time to be alive.
I'm pretty sure everyone important is under contract and Denver has JUST ENOUGH to make him a big offer.
But that would indeed put us in cap hell. Which raises all sorts of problems for the next three or four years.
Talib's gonna be gone soonish, but Roby's gonna get a big number to replace him and Von will eventually be the highest paid linbacker in the league. With an albatross contract for Captain Kirk that's gonna be like, 50% of our salary cap space right there.
And an average QB who will kill you with crucial picks occasionally is NOT WORTH THAT MUCH.
Especially when you have a 1 in 5 shot of hitting the QB lottery this year by getting a franchise guy on the best contract in football, the rookie deal, with rhe worst case scenario being we get MORE SHOTS AT FRANCHISE GUYS.
I know the big issue here though is Von, who's not gonna be happy playing for a loser, but, I mean, we've already seen the best of Von Miller. It's amazing, fantastic, borderline MVP level, but he's not going to get any better. Unloading him for assets in the next two years is undeniably the right choice.
Pinning the entire franchise on a mediocre qb and a linebacker who's not gonna be happy with anything less than a Super Bowl apoerance is the wrong move.