Nomic [GAME ON]: Kusuguttai's Prop 320 - WAITING 4.41pm

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited May 2007
    See, and I already know what my first prop is, because man I can see so many fucking problems already spouting up with the current ruleset.

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  • MiracleManSMiracleManS __BANNED USERS
    edited May 2007
    I'm still against it, even though I still think we should bring rank in.

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  • naporeonnaporeon Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Zek wrote: »
    naporeon wrote: »
    OK.

    Well, here's what I'll do.

    I will add you to the game after this round, unless someone has a good reason why we shouldn't do that. Because this is a win-win, in my opinion. Tie votes are a bitch, and you are a rad dude.

    We shouldn't do that because it's against the rules.
    Not as far as I can tell.

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    naporeon wrote: »
    Zek wrote: »
    naporeon wrote: »
    OK.

    Well, here's what I'll do.

    I will add you to the game after this round, unless someone has a good reason why we shouldn't do that. Because this is a win-win, in my opinion. Tie votes are a bitch, and you are a rad dude.

    We shouldn't do that because it's against the rules.
    Not as far as I can tell.
    So, what, anything that isn't explicitly disallowed in the rules is okay? I guess I can just go ahead and fill in 200 points next to my name then. Oh wait, I can't because it's not my thread.

    Listen, nowhere in the rules does it say that you have administrative rights over the game. As far as I'm concerned you're just another player, with the responsibility of editing the OP for convenience. If you want to make a change to the game then you need to get a rule passed like anybody else, and adding a new player definitely qualifies as a change.

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  • MiracleManSMiracleManS __BANNED USERS
    edited May 2007
    Zek wrote: »
    naporeon wrote: »
    Zek wrote: »
    naporeon wrote: »
    OK.

    Well, here's what I'll do.

    I will add you to the game after this round, unless someone has a good reason why we shouldn't do that. Because this is a win-win, in my opinion. Tie votes are a bitch, and you are a rad dude.

    We shouldn't do that because it's against the rules.
    Not as far as I can tell.
    So, what, anything that isn't explicitly disallowed in the rules is okay? I guess I can just go ahead and fill in 200 points next to my name then. Oh wait, I can't because it's not my thread.

    Listen, nowhere in the rules does it say that you have administrative rights over the game. As far as I'm concerned you're just another player, with the responsibility of editing the OP for convenience. If you want to make a change to the game then you need to get a rule passed like anybody else, and adding a new player definitely qualifies as a change.

    I think, at this point, we can all agree to this without some sort of bullshit rule. I can understand if its 45032890473047 rules in, but its not. Its close to the beginning of the game and, as much as I'd be a stickler, we've made one new rule....lets just not be cocks here, k?

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I think, at this point, we can all agree to this without some sort of bullshit rule. I can understand if its 45032890473047 rules in, but its not. Its close to the beginning of the game and, as much as I'd be a stickler, we've made one new rule....lets just not be cocks here, k?
    I'm not being a cock. The entire purpose of this game is strict adherence to rules. I wouldn't have a problem with it if it were any other game, but adding new players to the game constitutes a rule change. It sucks that Rank didn't join earlier, but now that the game has started the rules are not flexible.

    I have no issue with letting him join. Make a proposal and I'll vote for it.

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  • naporeonnaporeon Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Yeah.

    That's basically what I'm saying.

    I know that since the game started, I'm just another player. And adding Rank to the game, while not explicitly against the rules, is certainly an act that would occur outside them. I think that we can all agree that it would add to the game, however, and have a gentleman's agreement to let him slip in after this round.

    Also, you can't give yourself points. There are rules regulating that. There is no rule about adding players to the game, so technically, it is A-OK under Rule 116.

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  • naporeonnaporeon Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    The difficulty with adding him via a vote, Zek, is that first-round votes are unanimous.

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    naporeon wrote: »
    Yeah.

    That's basically what I'm saying.

    I know that since the game started, I'm just another player. And adding Rank to the game, while not explicitly against the rules, is certainly an act that would occur outside them. I think that we can all agree that it would add to the game, however, and have a gentleman's agreement to let him slip in after this round.

    Also, you can't give yourself points. There are rules regulating that. There is no rule about adding players to the game, so technically, it is A-OK under Rule 116.
    Well, fine, just so long as that's the interpretation of 116 that we're going to stick with. I don't think you'll like the direction that takes the game though. Which rule is it that regulates giving yourself points?
    naporeon wrote: »
    The difficulty with adding him via a vote, Zek, is that first-round votes are unanimous.

    Yeah, that sucks. Want to change it?

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited May 2007
    Zek wrote: »
    Which rule is it that regulates giving yourself points?

    the one that says everyone else has to vote on your proposal.

    Good luck getting people to vote on "HEY GUYS I WIN!"

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Zek wrote: »
    Which rule is it that regulates giving yourself points?

    the one that says everyone else has to vote on your proposal.

    Good luck getting people to vote on "HEY GUYS I WIN!"

    I don't need a proposal, I'll just be writing it on the list there.

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  • FrankoFranko Sometimes I really wish I had four feet so I could dance with myself to the drumbeat Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Zek wrote: »
    naporeon wrote: »
    Zek wrote: »
    naporeon wrote: »
    OK.

    Well, here's what I'll do.

    I will add you to the game after this round, unless someone has a good reason why we shouldn't do that. Because this is a win-win, in my opinion. Tie votes are a bitch, and you are a rad dude.

    We shouldn't do that because it's against the rules.
    Not as far as I can tell.
    So, what, anything that isn't explicitly disallowed in the rules is okay? I guess I can just go ahead and fill in 200 points next to my name then. Oh wait, I can't because it's not my thread.

    Listen, nowhere in the rules does it say that you have administrative rights over the game. As far as I'm concerned you're just another player, with the responsibility of editing the OP for convenience. If you want to make a change to the game then you need to get a rule passed like anybody else, and adding a new player definitely qualifies as a change.

    I think, at this point, we can all agree to this without some sort of bullshit rule. I can understand if its 45032890473047 rules in, but its not. Its close to the beginning of the game and, as much as I'd be a stickler, we've made one new rule....lets just not be cocks here, k?


    You both bring up such delicious points of view

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited May 2007
    Zek wrote: »
    Zek wrote: »
    Which rule is it that regulates giving yourself points?

    the one that says everyone else has to vote on your proposal.

    Good luck getting people to vote on "HEY GUYS I WIN!"

    I don't need a proposal, I'll just be writing it on the list there.

    way to play in the spirit of the game.

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  • naporeonnaporeon Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Rules 202, 204, 206, and 208 all have to do with points.

    No rule has anything to do with adding players.

    Therefore, Rule 116 is applicable for the latter, but not the former.

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  • naporeonnaporeon Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    But in a sense, you are right, which is why I asked for everyone's blessing in adding Rank to the game.

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  • MiracleManSMiracleManS __BANNED USERS
    edited May 2007
    naporeon wrote: »
    But in a sense, you are right, which is why I asked for everyone's blessing in adding Rank to the game.

    Which is why the rest of us are not being cocks.

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    naporeon wrote: »
    Rules 202, 204, 206, and 208 all have to do with points.

    No rule has anything to do with adding players.

    Therefore, Rule 116 is applicable for the latter, but not the former.

    Fair enough. So your final answer is that, according to 116, any aspect of the game not explicitly controlled by a rule is not regulated and thus any related player action is completely permissible?

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  • rockmonkeyrockmonkey Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    So wait, If you have to vote on the rule you yourself proposed, then during the first round couldn't you just wait until one person votes against and then do the same to avoid loss of points and to gain 10 at the same time?

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  • MiracleManSMiracleManS __BANNED USERS
    edited May 2007
    rockmonkey wrote: »
    So wait, If you have to vote on the rule you yourself proposed, then during the first round couldn't you just wait until one person votes against and then do the same to avoid loss of points and to gain 10 at the same time?

    One would assume yes, as a strategic method.

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  • PotUPotU __BANNED USERS
    edited May 2007
    We really need to get rid of this rule.

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    rockmonkey wrote: »
    So wait, If you have to vote on the rule you yourself proposed, then during the first round couldn't you just wait until one person votes against and then do the same to avoid loss of points and to gain 10 at the same time?

    No, not in the first round because if you voted against it the proposal would fail. And you would still lose points. But yes, from the second round on you can vote against your own proposal and if it still passes you'll gain 10 extra points.

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  • naporeonnaporeon Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I don't see Zek's proposal passing at this point.

    But I did make an offer, and I will stick to it. I am changing my vote.

    I vote in favor of the active proposition.

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  • MonkeybombMonkeybomb Registered User
    edited May 2007
    rockmonkey wrote: »
    So wait, If you have to vote on the rule you yourself proposed, then during the first round couldn't you just wait until one person votes against and then do the same to avoid loss of points and to gain 10 at the same time?

    One would assume yes, as a strategic method.

    No, because that only becomes active once mandatory unanimity is eliminated.

    This game just made me type the phrase "mandatory unanimity."


    If this wasn't the first round, I'd say a vote would be required for Rank's entry. But it is, so I won't. Let Rank join.

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  • naporeonnaporeon Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    See, I wish that we could just be nice, non-douchey guys, and just let Rank join, but I really do like the idea of using the game to add him.

    It just sucks that all first-round votes require unanimity to pass.

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  • MonkeybombMonkeybomb Registered User
    edited May 2007
    naporeon wrote: »
    I don't see Zek's proposal passing at this point.

    But I did make an offer, and I will stick to it. I am changing my vote.

    I vote in favor of the active proposition.

    As inconstant as the wind.

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  • naporeonnaporeon Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    monkey, I offered to change my vote if he added a rider.

    He did.

    I just want Rank in the game, and I'm not too attached to Rule 204 to begin with.

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  • MonkeybombMonkeybomb Registered User
    edited May 2007
    I mostly just wanted to use the word inconstant.

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  • CalliusCallius Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    You guys should vote me in as supreme ruler of awesome.

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  • naporeonnaporeon Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Nah.

    I can't respect you.

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  • CalliusCallius Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    naporeon wrote: »
    Nah.

    I can't respect you.
    You don't have to respect me, you just have to love me.

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited May 2007
    so what's the verdict.

    can I play this game with you guys?

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  • naporeonnaporeon Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Yeah.

    Unless Graves has a problem with it, since he's next on the list.

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  • MonkeybombMonkeybomb Registered User
    edited May 2007
    so what's the verdict.

    can I play this game with you guys?


    I have no authority and this means nothing. Yes.

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  • FrankoFranko Sometimes I really wish I had four feet so I could dance with myself to the drumbeat Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Callius wrote: »
    naporeon wrote: »
    Nah.

    I can't respect you.
    You don't have to respect me, you just have to love me.

    ra ra Rasputin...

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited May 2007
    Franko wrote: »
    Callius wrote: »
    naporeon wrote: »
    Nah.

    I can't respect you.
    You don't have to respect me, you just have to love me.

    ra ra Rasputin...

    Russia's greatest love machine.

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  • naporeonnaporeon Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Franko wrote: »
    Callius wrote: »
    naporeon wrote: »
    Nah.

    I can't respect you.
    You don't have to respect me, you just have to love me.

    ra ra Rasputin...

    Russia's greatest love machine.
    It was a shame how he carried on.

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  • STATE OF THE ART ROBOTSTATE OF THE ART ROBOT Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Oh man, so rank's entry into the game rides on us? Sweet!

    RANK, YOU ARE POWERLESS! WE CONTROL YOUR FATE

    MUHAHAHAHAHA

    (but, you do like Death Guns so you have my vote)

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  • MonkeybombMonkeybomb Registered User
    edited May 2007
    Man, let's talk about rules and such some more.

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  • GravesGraves Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I vote in favor of the active propostion.

    sorry, school and womens and such

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  • srsizzysrsizzy Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Umm, hold on. Have we decided Rank's entry is reliant on me saying yes to this?

    I'll only vote yes if Rank's joining the game is independent of the current proposition, mostly because I think Zek's being cocky and argumentative, and I want him to be wrong.

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