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It's 2018 and the [State of the Union] is...

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    Athenor wrote: »
    We are a people whose heroes not only live in the past, but all around us, defending hope, pride, and defending American way. They work in every trade, they sacrifice to raise a family, they care for children at home and defend flag abroad. Strong moms and brave kids. Firefighters, police officers, border agents, medics and marines.

    Above all else, they are Americans. This capital, city, nation belong to them.

    Cool. A majority of us who voted would like you to get out of our city.

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    SleepSleep Registered User regular
    Athenor wrote: »
    Fuck me this is gonna be called presidential, isn't it?

    Oh definitely

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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    Elvenshae wrote: »
    Quid wrote: »
    Something I find telling about Trump's character is his complete silence about Russia and China. He'll only bash on significantly smaller rivals.
    He did call them rivals at one point.

    But when demanding action be taken against oppressive communist and socialist regimes it's Cuba and Venezuela that are the focus.

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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    And it's over.

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    AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    As long as we are proud of who we are and what we are fighting for, there is nothing we cannot achieve. As long as we have confidence in our values, faith in our citizens, and trust in our God, we will never fail. Our families will thrive. Our people will prosper, and our nation will forever be safe and strong and mighty and free.

    And God Bless America.

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    BursarBursar Hee Noooo! PDX areaRegistered User regular
    Oh, cool. Talk up American arts and science, while destroying the funding and structures that allow it to flourish.

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    AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    (aaaand done).

    Fucking hell, 1 hr 20 minutes.

    That was absolute drivel!

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    SavantSavant Simply Barbaric Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    Prohass wrote: »
    This was a sinister fucking speech. It will be largely overlooked because Trump just read a teleprompter and didnt go off the cuff, so it can masquerade as just a usual political speech. However the implication of a lot of this was either maliciously evil or a weaponisation of the banality of evil.

    It's a cake of emotionally manipulative anecdotes, with a frosting of fascism, and sprinkles with a mix of colors of "I'm awesome!" and pure terror.

    Savant on
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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    Quid wrote: »
    And it's over.

    If only.

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    DiplominatorDiplominator Hardcore Porg Registered User regular
    Holy shit let's hope this never happens again.

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    ChillyWillyChillyWilly Registered User regular
    "Trust in OUR God".

    Stop playing at being a Christian!

    Stop!

    I don't know who I'm more annoyed with in respect to this issue: Him playing at it or the dumb Christians who believe it.


    And, of course, another USA chant to end the evening, because these people are beyond foolish.

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    AutomautocratesAutomautocrates Registered User regular
    Thank you and God bless everyone that watched this thing here, and especially Athenor for the transcription. <3

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    AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    No need for thanks. Like I said, it got me through this. I enjoy transcribing stuff. :)

    I miss wonky numbers.

    CBS already calling out no mention to Russia or the investigation.

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    KanaKana Registered User regular


    It's sort of funny, this should be chilling, but it's so blatantly obvious that whoever wrote this speech has just no fucking idea how to actually make those things happen. And they didn't even try to find out. Or maybe they're just purposefully being vague because nobody can actually agree on what to do.

    So they're just like, "Uhhh, congress, plz do something???"

    But also it's all like, so deliberately vague, they can pretty much do anything and claim victory. "ask congress to pass legislation to help ensure that American foreign-assistance dollars always serve America's interests" is a complete nothing sentence. That's not a policy proposal, it's blatantly nothing but hot air.

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    AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    Now to go back and see what I missed, and consider getting myself a new sig! :)

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    Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    "Trust in OUR God".

    Stop playing at being a Christian!

    Stop!

    I don't know who I'm more annoyed with in respect to this issue: Him playing at it or the dumb Christians who believe it.


    And, of course, another USA chant to end the evening, because these people are beyond foolish.

    He's not being a Christian, he wants them to literally worship
    himself.

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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    Bursar wrote: »
    Oh, cool. Talk up American arts and science, while destroying the funding and structures that allow it to flourish.

    And top it all off by repeating the American myth, while doing everything he can to bar the door to everyone from those countries. You know the ones.

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    PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    So in summary immigrants are murderers, Trump is going to fire Mueller and storytime

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    OldSlackerOldSlacker Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    Oh my god, he is signing autographs.

    OldSlacker on
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    TetraNitroCubaneTetraNitroCubane The Djinnerator At the bottom of a bottleRegistered User regular
    I couldn't bring myself to watch, or barely read excerpts.

    Are people falling over themselves to call him "Presidential" yet? Does everyone have to love him now?

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    ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    PantsB wrote: »
    So in summary immigrants are murderers, Trump is going to fire Mueller and storytime

    his remark about public servants etc was fucking terrifying

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    WACriminalWACriminal Dying Is Easy, Young Man Living Is HarderRegistered User regular
    I noticed how often he seemed to deliberately use the word "citizens" where other words would have been more natural, like "Americans" or "people". That's Miller going all-in on Operation Fuck Dreamers, right?

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    I'd like to think the majority of America would revolt/demonstrate/something if they decided to actually go at North Korea.

    Doing any kind of strike on the DPRK and setting of an international firestorm is going to immediately eradicate any good will, diplomatic, and cultural power our country has.

    It'll diminish us greater than anything else yet. And that's kind of frightening to consider given the past year or so.

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    SiliconStewSiliconStew Registered User regular
    PantsB wrote: »
    So in summary immigrants are murderers, Trump is going to fire Mueller and storytime

    Don't forget the government purges and nuclear proliferation.

    Just remember that half the people you meet are below average intelligence.
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    AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    Gonna be fair and try to do the Democratic response, but it will be harder due to the higher speaking level and lack of applause breaks.

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    AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    WACriminal wrote: »
    I noticed how often he seemed to deliberately use the word "citizens" where other words would have been more natural, like "Americans" or "people". That's Miller going all-in on Operation Fuck Dreamers, right?

    I tried to call those out.

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    PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    Athenor wrote: »
    Gonna be fair and try to do the Democratic response, but it will be harder due to the higher speaking level and lack of applause breaks.

    Joe Kennedy has seemed charismatic in small bites, definite 2020 Pres or VP possibility

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    AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    Joe Kennedy is going to be speaking from an autobody shop from a vocational school. 30 students there.

    OMG, it is live! Holy fuck!

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    Also the economy will collapse as Seoul and Tokyo are drenched in artillery fire

    So ya know lot to look forward to in the months to come

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    shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    Prohass wrote: »
    PantsB wrote: »
    So in summary immigrants are murderers, Trump is going to fire Mueller and storytime

    his remark about public servants etc was fucking terrifying

    Which ones?

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    SleepSleep Registered User regular
    In fuckin fall river!

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    AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    A privilege to join us tonight.

    In Fall river, a proud American city...

    (yay applause breaks!)

    A city built by immigrants.

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    shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    WACriminal wrote: »
    I noticed how often he seemed to deliberately use the word "citizens" where other words would have been more natural, like "Americans" or "people". That's Miller going all-in on Operation Fuck Dreamers, right?

    Of course it is.

    Non-whites aren't real americans.

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    PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    Campaign style from Kennedy so far

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    AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    From textiles to robots., this is a place that knows how to make great things.

    Students are with us this evening, in auto-tech program, carry on that rich legacy.

    He is applauding into the mic too.

    Like many American hometowns, faced share of storms. People here are tough, fight for each other, pull for the city. Fitting place to gather as nation reflects on the state of the union.

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    AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    Difficult task. Many spent last year anxious, angry, afraid.

    We all feel the fractured fault lines across the country.

    Hear voices of Americans forgotten and voiceless.

    See a large stock exchange but people not seeing it.

    Struggle to keep the gov't open, and Russia in our democracy.

    All out war on our environment, rolling back ..

    Ack, can't keep up!

    He/Him | "A boat is always safest in the harbor, but that’s not why we build boats." | "If you run, you gain one. If you move forward, you gain two." - Suletta Mercury, G-Witch
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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    Don't worry about it Athenor :)

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    AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    Targeting safest, sacred places.

    A nagging feeling that this is not right, this is not who we are.

    He/Him | "A boat is always safest in the harbor, but that’s not why we build boats." | "If you run, you gain one. If you move forward, you gain two." - Suletta Mercury, G-Witch
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    SleepSleep Registered User regular
    I want Jessie Isenberg to play this guy in a movie

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    AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    It would be easy to dismiss chaos as partisanship, but it is far bigger than that.

    He/Him | "A boat is always safest in the harbor, but that’s not why we build boats." | "If you run, you gain one. If you move forward, you gain two." - Suletta Mercury, G-Witch
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