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[Dissidia Mobile] Aranea you folks gonna skip the new Global First character?

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  • FryFry Registered User regular
    For folks who might not particularly be a fan of Machina, the next two BT characters are Noel and Locke, and I understand they have similar "haha go brrrr" buttons.

    As a bonus, Noel will be on a banner with Cid VII and Locke will be with Tifa, who are also pretty good at dealing damage.

    Elderlycrawfish
  • BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    I was going to go for Machina when I hit 75k, but I actually kind of like Noel, and iirc Locke is a cool fire thief dude?

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  • BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    Today's free single have me... Paine's LD. I still kind of want to draw for Machina's EX and her other items too, maybe now even more so I can fill in Paine's gear.

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  • BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    And now I have Machina's BT, LD, and EX... The only thing I'm missing from the banner is Paine's 35cp weapon...

    "I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."

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  • ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    Brody wrote: »
    And now I have Machina's BT, LD, and EX... The only thing I'm missing from the banner is Paine's 35cp weapon...

    At least you can pick up her 35cp with power tokens, if/when you have enough.

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  • IlpalaIlpala Just this guy, y'know TexasRegistered User regular
    Aw shit we got c90 and ultima weapons coming soon.

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  • FryFry Registered User regular
    It's cute that Snow LD will clear cycle quests, in a quick amount of real time, without even inputting a command.

    (This is not an endorsement to pull for him: you can clear cycle quests just as fast with Yuffie on Auto+ with no investment)

  • ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    Aside from BTs (missing 9) and High Armors (it'll be awhile), I've finally got everyone complete. Huzzah!

    Anyone make an Ultima Weapon yet? I'm not sure what I want to make first.

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  • BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    What support/heal/tank characters are available now/soon that are going to work well with Machina?

    "I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."

    The Monster Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson

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  • 411Randle411Randle Librarian Oook.Registered User regular
    I spent like ten minutes trying to figure out the trigger conditions for Lufenia Ifrit before I gave up and just ran it down with Machina-Maria-Snow.

    Also I created one Ultima Weapon, all they do is give you the ability to break the 99999 damage cap. Which is useful, obviously, but moreso for characters that don't have BTs, I'd think. I don't know, maybe I'm missing something.

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  • FryFry Registered User regular
    Ultima weapon both increases your HP damage limit, as well as just straight increasing the amount of HP damage you deal (to help you get up towards that new limit). For characters that deal a lot of damage, it lets you deal even more.

    They can be good on BT or not BT characters, what matters is that they deal a lot of damage. Cid VII is pretty ridiculous at the moment, after every other turn of his, Bombs Away will hit for roughly one million damage. That could be 1.4 million with a maxed Ultima weapon! Some folks suggest starting with spear for him, which you can pass on to Freya and Kain as time passes.

    I'm not that excited about any characters in the next month or two, so I might just end up getting a sword for Noctis/Tidus, or a dagger for Locke. We'll see.

  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Sword for Tidus is always a safe choice I feel like

    That said you probably want to buy every weapon or close to it before you max out any

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  • FryFry Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    That said you probably want to buy every weapon or close to it before you max out any

    I disagree, stacking +40% damage on the DPS you're using all the time is going to be a lot more valuable than having eight weapons that aren't in your party, +10% on the two supports in your party, and like +20% on the DPS you're using.

    A few months in, JP version got the ability to reset one weapon per month; assuming we will also get that, you can keep moving around your big stick as newer units take over your lineup.

  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    edited January 2022
    Outside of like... Cid Raines I dunno if there's a DPS I use so often that I'd feel comfortable doing that

    That and a lot of times I'm running supports that contribute a healthy enough amount of damage/off turn damage that like, I'd rather have Sword+Unique for Tidus+Cor than say, a 20% Sword

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  • BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    edited February 2022
    I was bored and decided to throw some tickets at the Noel banner, and then this happened...
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    Brody on
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  • 411Randle411Randle Librarian Oook.Registered User regular
    I'd like to believe that I've figured out Lufenia, but it turns out that most of them can be burned through with either Noctis or Machina plus a BRV battery and possibly a third to keep the orb up. And in a lot of cases you don't even need to worry about the orb.

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  • ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    I mean, it really depends on the particular Lufenia, but powercreep is a helluva drug for sure. And overall I'd say there are a lot more options for orb dealers than when a Lufenia was first released.

    Having non-lethal orbs is also really nice.

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    Fry
  • BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    What would people suggest as a brave battery that can be built just off of power tokens?

    And does Machina need to be greened?

    "I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."

    The Monster Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson

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  • 411Randle411Randle Librarian Oook.Registered User regular
    edited January 2022
    He probably doesn't need to be but if you're looking for options he's definitely the one to do.

    EDIT: Selphie's been a pretty good battery for me. Maria's another decent option.

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  • FryFry Registered User regular
    The Lufenia and Lufenia+ for Queen's lost chapter are quite easy. The Twins blow them apart.

    Elderlycrawfish
  • ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    I killed two birds with one stone and did the Luf+ with Queen and Cater (and Noctis). Cater ridiculously handles both the orb and freezes Brv gain so there is practically no danger at all.

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  • 411Randle411Randle Librarian Oook.Registered User regular
    The orb being non-fatal also helps. Even the zero-turn runs I've seen on YouTube are like "just WoL call and forget about the orb"

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  • 411Randle411Randle Librarian Oook.Registered User regular
    edited January 2022
    Oh man, I want to be able to do this draw now, not in a year.

    EDIT: It's 50 guaranteed 5-star weapons or above, and 1 guaranteed BT. Just ridiculous.

    https://youtu.be/vj3hY953nt8

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  • ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    edited January 2022
    Global first this year is Garnet BT. In 4 hours. Huge support gains, lots of damage, gold framed buff.

    Also getting a new type of event, Crevasse, which is like Abyss but you can pick the conditions and orb countdown type.

    And lots of free pulls. One for the new banners, also a daily anniversary banner featuring EX and LDs (3 games per banner, banners up for 5 days each). And a buncha other stuff. Good luck on your free pulls!

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  • 411Randle411Randle Librarian Oook.Registered User regular
    I got the Garnet BT...and then accidentally used my book on Lightning instead. Oops. Garnet will still murder groups of enemies, though, which is good since that's what Crevasse is all about. Plus Lightning got reworked so she's not just single target, so it's not a terrible thing.

    I currently have 177 points out of a possible 300 n Crevasse, but I'm having real issues with the 200 that has the masked guys who get super-high defense and also curse you to not be able to gain BRV. I originally passed it easily with Lightning/Garnet/Yuna (for the Esuna) but I needed Lightning and Garnet for the 250-level stuff and now I can't figure out a new combination that still does enough damage, gains BRV, and can cleanse the debuff.

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  • BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    I need to work on getting a roster figured out. I can usually clear the 150, and some of the 180's, but can't hardly seem to scratch the Lufenia's. I guess it would probably also help to finish the story...

    "I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."

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  • FryFry Registered User regular
    Lufenia usually requires having a strong Def Down, some sort of BRV damage up, and maybe a BRV gains up. Some or all of that can be supplied by good calls. Ideally you're getting decent numbers right from the get go without your calls, because it's going to get tougher at 80% and again at 50%.

    If you wanted to throw currency at the problem, this Garnet/Lissette banner would do the trick. Garnet covers everything but DEF down, and also does an awful lot of damage. She's probably the best support for the next three months, probably closer to six months? Lissette is not that exciting as a team member, but her call gives you access to several turns of a HP damage up debuff, which is usually a good thing to have in one or more of your call slots.

    Overall, every Lufenia fight has a few things that are bullshit, which may or may not include the orb. Gotta figure out how to deal with it, while also fitting in all of the support and DPS you need :/

  • BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    edited January 2022
    This is what I have so far. https://ootracker.com/directory/gl/218869818

    I'm just not sure if I need another support, since I thought that was what Llyud does? But also it seems Llyud is more of a buffer, and Garnet is more of a debuffer? But then I'm not sure if people actually want/need tanks?

    Was watching some videos, saw a couple people mention that Garnet offers some really good options, decided to pull. So now I've got most of her kit. Deciding if I should do two more pulls so I can token one of the other LD/EX options, or just call it and token the book.

    Decided to pull for it, and in the last two pulls got three copies of Garnet's EX, and a second copy of her LD. I just wish I could buy Ashe's LD off this banner. Also now I'm wondering if I should pull 5 more times and buy the blue book...

    Brody on
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  • 411Randle411Randle Librarian Oook.Registered User regular
    The most fun part of Garnet is clearing stuff like crystal or cactaur farming in zero turns because the Dark Eidolon triggered every round

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  • FryFry Registered User regular
    Wow, the rage gators in this Annularity fight are silly. The fight is clearly meant to showcase Eiko's revive, but they are killing me faster than I can put up more revives to deal with it :0

  • 411Randle411Randle Librarian Oook.Registered User regular
    I had to cheese it with Noctis/Garnet/Machina so they just never got a turn. It is the way.

    Admittedly, it's probably smarter to spread them over the other fights, but it did work.

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  • FryFry Registered User regular
    Surprisingly, I was able to no-turn them with Garnet, Lightning, and a friend Garnet. Garnet manages the orbs, and Lightning just takes a lot of turns, allowing Ark to pummel the gators.

    The rhinoceros bug is also bullshit, it starts with a full gauge and uses it to do an AOE that kills your party. I brought in Noctis for that fight, because duck that.

  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Fell off this for a little bit because I was super sick and ended up finally missing my first couple events in awhile

    Been doing free rolls and that's basically it, and getting nothing for awhile until I got Eiko LDoff the free pull, random Cater LD same day, and Locke BT+LD within six pulls

    Think I'm gonna token Garnet BT, and BT+ her and Locke

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  • 411Randle411Randle Librarian Oook.Registered User regular
    Garnet BT is definitely worth greening.

    I've heard Locke is also worth it but of course, because I actually saved mats and tickets and gems for when I drew it, I have not yet drawn his BT to test that theory.

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    edited February 2022
    Locke is basically just a damage monster with some minor support effects

    Genji Glove x Master Scroll easily punches above a million damage, and his BT+ aura gives party ignore defense, +30% BRV damage, and +30% BRV damage limit

    He's still good without BT, but it helps his damage a lot because his main nuke only has 2 BRV hits before every HP dump

    Maddoc on
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  • ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    I've been procrastinating a bit and still have half of Annular to do. But I figure I'd skip ahead and give Edgar a spin on his Luf+.

    Edgar is very nice. Three types of imperil is great stuff. I roflstomped it with Edgar Eiko Garnet easy mode.

    Also figured I'd do the Transcendence, which was surprisingly easy with the right stacked teams. (Left was Locke LD, Lluyd, Snow. Right and Middle were Firion, Maria, Beatrix. Extremely safe teams).

    That took a lot of pressure off, now I just gotta go back and finish the last three Annular stages, and clear some Luf stages for some of the level 90s. Need to token Garnet BT, maybe Locke too probably.

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  • FryFry Registered User regular
    Oh wow, Garnet call gives you ten turns of her buff, both times. That's really silly, pretty much the best call assuming you can afford the buff slot.

    Elderlycrawfish
  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    So I hadn't done Perfectum at all, and saw there was time limited rewards for clearing stratum 6

    So the past couple days I've been grinding away at it, and just cleared it with less than an hour to go

    Mummy was giving me a little bit of trouble, mostly due to blowing past damage thresholds too fast, so rather than come up with a new strategy I just put Eiko in my party and said NO STRATEGY

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    And then turned around and cleaned out Annular Equinox

    First: Garland, Ardyn, Locke
    Second: Lenna, Caius, Setzer
    Third: Cid Raines, Aphmau, Keiss
    Fourth: Eiko, Strago, Twins
    Annular: Garnet, Zell, Quistis

    In every case, I used a friend Garnet

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  • FryFry Registered User regular
    Reminder to exchange your G tokens from the Anniversary freebie draw, if you haven't already. Not that it's a big deal if you forget. I think I forgot the previous time we had freebies, and it annoyed me.

    Ignis is way better than he was, now that Papa Bird HP+ does actual damage, and you can use his EX more often. Garnet still dunks on him, though.

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