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[Dissidia Mobile] Aranea you folks gonna skip the new Global First character?

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  • FryFry Registered User regular
    Rius wrote: »
    Aww I did Basch Chaos with 3/3 Vaan, 0/3 Serah, and EX Porom. Got it in 75/85 turns, 7.7k/15k damage, but only got 485k/500k score because I took too many Breaks. So only a Complete instead of a Clear. Three tickets and 100 gems, I can let that go heh.

    Porom or Basch seem like an absolute necessity for that fight, on the real.

    It's a gross fight, to be sure. I delayed it to death with Yshtola and Garland.

  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    Oh that'd be a fun way to do it; I got distracted by Vaan and Serah's event synergy.

  • FryFry Registered User regular
    Welp. Don't really know what the Kimahri event boss does, because it only got like one turn, even on Chaos difficulty. Thing's quite weak to pushback.
    What it does is apply three framed debuffs with ten-turn durations to your team when the recast ability happens. You'll want to have a plan for that.

    By the by, Tifa friends are exceptional for punching Ifrit's face in, if you're still grinding out summon boards.

  • dporowskidporowski Registered User regular
    edited January 2020
    Speaking of Ifrit, I am assuming that there has been a bunch of power creep since they put in that 100 difficulty "challenge" fight, right?

    Edit: I should not have said that, he proceeded to stomp me into the mud on that try.

    dporowski on
  • FryFry Registered User regular
    dporowski wrote: »
    Speaking of Ifrit, I am assuming that there has been a bunch of power creep since they put in that 100 difficulty "challenge" fight, right?

    Edit: I should not have said that, he proceeded to stomp me into the mud on that try.

    The one where you can actually see an enormous Ifrit standing on the map is the one you're expected to grind ad nauseum. There's been power creep since it was released (level cap 60 -> 70, EX+ weapons). Also, the fight itself was nerfed - it used to put up a Resist Veil that blocked all HP damage whenever its BRV got above 75%, but it doesn't do that anymore (on that difficulty).

    A good friend unit will do a lot of the work for you, but not all of it. You'll want to bring Vanille to Deprotect and Dispel it. As a bonus, she's one of the "super synergy" characters, which makes it so your entire party counts as if they had 2x XP active.

  • dporowskidporowski Registered User regular
    Yah, Vanille is putting in some serious, serious work on that fight, and I can't imagine it's easily doable without her.

  • dporowskidporowski Registered User regular
    Okay. Something is happening that I do not understand, and the internet is not helping.

    I am generally able to clear the 100 difficulty Challenge from Ifrit with little difficulty; got it down to a nice routine. Except every few fights, Ifrit seems to go nuts about 4 turns in, take 3 turns to my 1, and starts fireballing my team to death at like 8k HP per fireball.

    I'm not doing anything different! This has to be a mechanic I don't understand, but I swear I am at a loss; dispelling like usual, debuffing like usual, Ifrit doesn't have any unusual buffs/effects (nothing but my debuffs!) and I'm using the exact same team every run. The only, only thing I've noticed is that sometimes my sequence is Lightning Vanille Cloud, and sometimes Lightning Cloud Vanille, and the latter seems to associate with the stompings, but not always.

    Any ideas/explanation, or is this just me getting unlucky and how the fight goes?

  • FryFry Registered User regular
    edited January 2020
    That specific fight has some wrinkles to the AI script, yeah. This game doesn't seem to have anyone doing much work on enemy scripts, the way FFRK does. I'll try to summarize a few things I have learned in the hundreds of times I have done that fight.

    - If Ifrit's gauge ("recast" is the official term) is full and flashing, he'll do the same AOE BRV+HP attack that he opens with.

    - Almost any enemy will do their recast ability as their next turn after filling the gauge. Ifrit specifically will opt instead to do a single target attack as his next move, IF he has enough BRV to one-shot somebody after the previous move

    - if you're able to shave all that BRV, you can get him in a loop where he'll never use the recast ability, because he'll do a three hit Flameclaw that's good for like 15k BRV, line up a single target attack to try to kill, but opt for another Flameclaw due to being broken

    - if he is doing a single target attack later in the fight, and he's not broken, it's usually going to be the flame punch HP attack thing. That one will fill his BRV up to his Init BRV if he's below that, and, crucially, he gets a BRV refund of 100% of the HP damage it inflicts. This is probably what's killing you, particularly if he gets to fire it off for like 12k and immediately getting that much back. The solution here is "don't let him do that", which usually means shaving his BRV, but could also mean WoL shields, Setzer freeze, Poison/Sap, or Quistis pushback.


    There's also a general thing that most boss enemies do, where their stats get invisibly bigger as their HP goes down. Usually the enemy will announce this with an emote like "the flames grow hotter" or whatever. Typically happens at 80% and 50% HP remaining, sometimes at more intervals for especially nasty enemies. It's easy to spot it happening in Ifrit, as Flameclaw usually puts him at whatever his Max BRV currently is. Not really anything to be done about this, just be aware of it.

    Fry on
  • dporowskidporowski Registered User regular
    Yeah, the recast/filling bar thing I got, this is distinctly "giant ST fireballs". (Blazing Embers?)

    This may just be a luck thing; usually, given this, I suspect my usual cast sequence means I'm shaving off enough BRV/keeping him broken enough that he never lines up the giant fireball of death, but if I roll low...

    I still don't understand the sequential turns thing, though. But as it only seems to happen if he one-shots someone, I guess just "keep him not doing that". Sounds like this will eventually be less of an issue with natural party power gain/level increase, though until Lightning gets her second star... :/

  • FryFry Registered User regular
    How's everyone been doing, lately? I got David BowieEmperor EX from tickets, I'm looking forward to trappin' some fools.

    chrono_travellerElderlycrawfish
  • ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    I finally got some Firion stuff (35, couple of EXs), but Emperor eluded me aside from a couple copies of his 15.

    Had also gotten a couple of Rosa EXs earlier in the week, so that was nice.

    PSN/Steam - Elderlycrawfish
    Frychrono_traveller
  • dporowskidporowski Registered User regular
    So I spent some tickets on Vanille's banner before it went away, and well, out popped a dupe EX and a 35CP... So I uh, may have turned her into a fully operational battlestation, and put her EX to 2/3, as well as getting her up to 70/70 and whatnot.

    Boy, she's making everyone else I got look like shit. Subbed in Squall for Cloud, as I have Squall's EX + 15, and gosh hey, that's better too, so now I just need to get poor Lightning her 35, feed Squall his, somehow find enough stones to break both, and then... I'll go back to failing real hard at those 100 level stages 'cause ouch.

    ElderlycrawfishFrychrono_traveller
  • chrono_travellerchrono_traveller Registered User regular
    Sorry, haven't been posting much, but just been trucking away. Biggest thing lately was that after ~100 tickets, nabbed Sabin's EX, so that's been fun. Tried to do Kimarhi's Chaos level, and every time, that stupid boss gets off one of those n-orb attacks and just demolishes me. Gonna have to think up a new composition, I guess.

    Do we know when they'll announce who the global first character is gonna be?

    The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it. ~ Terry Pratchett
  • FryFry Registered User regular
    Sorry, haven't been posting much, but just been trucking away. Biggest thing lately was that after ~100 tickets, nabbed Sabin's EX, so that's been fun. Tried to do Kimarhi's Chaos level, and every time, that stupid boss gets off one of those n-orb attacks and just demolishes me. Gonna have to think up a new composition, I guess.

    Do we know when they'll announce who the global first character is gonna be?

    I used Garland and Yshtola to delay them to heck, though if one attack is killing you, that wouldn't be enough.

    Global first character will be announced on Monday's live stream. I don't expect it will arrive before March, but who knows, maybe it'll drop the first week of February.

    chrono_traveller
  • FryFry Registered User regular
    A geared Emperor is super satisfying to play. When all those traps start going off, *chefkiss*

  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    After getting Balthier/Cait Sith and Tifa EXes on the free pulls, I've whiffed on everything since. Already had Yuna EX, though, so that's totally fine.

    I didn't do anything with the three former ones yet, still haven't done tons of the permanent Chaos stuff. Mostly just plugging away at not missing time-limited Chaos clear stuff.

    I almost completely whiffed on the month of super synergy for the first three summons. All of my characters have at least the treasures for Ifrit and Shiva, but I didn't grind Ramuh in that fashion and I have a fair few EX-havers without 4 maxed boards. I remain nonplussed by this grind.

    I need to grind the Kimahri multiplayer in it's entirety tonight, lol

  • BeastehBeasteh THAT WOULD NOT KILL DRACULARegistered User regular
    Got Emp on ticket #7 and Rosa on something like ticket #210

    340k gems and 150 tickets going into Yuffie GL First and anniversary

    FryElderlycrawfishchrono_traveller
  • ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    I am whiffing bigly on this Yuffie banner. I've got enough stupid paper cranes to make like 3 or 4 mlbs and arrgh I should cut my losses.

    We got imperil changes early, very nice. It was supposed to be next month, during the Golbez LC?

    Also upped points on the summon board. Pop a 3x book and you can get all the treasure nodes in 2 fights instead of 3. Master a board in 7 (plus some wild points) instead of....11? Very very nice.

    PSN/Steam - Elderlycrawfish
  • ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    edited January 2020
    So the second Global first character is....
    Aranea

    Feb. 17th event.

    Elderlycrawfish on
    PSN/Steam - Elderlycrawfish
  • FryFry Registered User regular
    edited January 2020
    1/27 Livestream notes - Second Anniversary stream!

    Jan 31 - 2nd Anniversary Campaigns
    - 2x WoI Artifact Token drops
    - 2x Cycle Quest rewards, 2x Kactuar frequency
    - First Meet rewards reset
    - 3x daily mission rewards
    - daily mission rewards are being updated as well

    - Ten (10) Free Multi draws!!!!!

    - login bonuses, additional daily missions, anniversary panel missions

    - Carbuncle's Treasure returns, re-vamped (power/armor orbs; crystals)

    - 2nd Ann. Stickers: NT designs, mostly villains


    - Potion on Rank Up (in addition to SP refreshedit: SQEX_Joshua made a mistake on stream, this should actually be potion instead of refresh, not in addition. )
    - retroactively gain potions equal to current Rank after update
    - Potion limit up to 9999

    - DP exchange adjustments
    - Maximum up to 3000
    - daily points up to 300
    - high crystals/high shards available weekly

    - new 30 minute support items no longer available; will be getting twice as many 15 minute items instead
    - (you'll still have your old 30 minute items)

    - "sort by" additions - 2x XP, # summon points to master


    - new 70 Crystal Awakenings
    - Sephiroth (EX+), Eiko (EX+), Layle; Auron (EX notplus), Maria (EX notplus), Jecht
    - Eiko rework
    - first multi draw free, both banners
    - Raid quest: CPU

    Feb 4 - Golbez Lost Chapter
    - first multi draw free

    Feb 7 - Eight event
    - first multi draw free
    - seven rework
    - King sticker

    Feb 12 - Act 2 Chapter 7 (Ignis)
    - first multi draw free
    - limited time multiplayer for the COSMOS/CHAOS fights in the chapter

    Feb 21 - Rinoa LC
    - first multi draw free
    - Irvine rework
    - limited time Rinoa costume (re-run)

    Feb 24 - Mystery character (Gau) event
    - first multi draw free
    - limited time Terra costume (re-run)


    Feb 21 - Dimensions' End Entropy Tier 7
    - Tips: HP damage reduction, debuff removal/prevention


    Answers to Developer Q&A:

    Q: Plans to improve artifact system?
    A: Yes, but haven't decided how yet

    Q: Weapon skins?
    A: JP version February, Global still a while out (June/July)

    Q: What's next for Abyss?
    A: Beta ending after 2nd ann, "official" version releasing March/April

    Q: Cutscene theatre?
    A: Arriving global first, 2nd anniversary


    GLOBAL FIRST CHARACTER:
    Spear User
    Aranea (XV)

    - Arrives Feb 17
    - first multi draw free


    Jan 31 - Memoria Theatre (cutscene theatre)

    Jan 28 - Global First character retweet/share campaign
    - 2 weapon books/2 armor books if everyone gets to 8,000 total retweets/shares

    Fry on
  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    Boo a FFXV character, snore

    Rest of that sounds awesome though

    Frychrono_traveller
  • StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    My long vigil for Rikku continues

    At least the character we’re getting is pretty cool

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  • chrono_travellerchrono_traveller Registered User regular
    Stilts wrote: »
    My long vigil for Rikku continues

    At least the character we’re getting is pretty cool

    Whats her deal? I haven't played XV. She like the daughter of Cid?

    The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it. ~ Terry Pratchett
  • ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    Stilts wrote: »
    My long vigil for Rikku continues

    At least the character we’re getting is pretty cool

    Whats her deal? I haven't played XV. She like the daughter of Cid?

    She's basically a Beatrix; respected commander of the opposing empire who ain't cool with it when the empire gets all monstery.

    Hmm, I guess there are quite a few of those types in FF games, huh?

    PSN/Steam - Elderlycrawfish
    StiltsXerinkRius
  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    Six draws and a fair few tickets over the last two weeks didn't get me Rosa's EX

    one single ticket 3 hours before the banner dies just did

    ElderlycrawfishFry411Randlechrono_traveller
  • FryFry Registered User regular
    JP version got a preview of some of the stuff that will be arriving soon for their 3rd anniversary. Weapon skins was mentioned in our report (and we'll be getting it earlier on the timeline), but one thing that's quite exciting to me is that there will be a new setting for friend units' skill orders. So you don't have that horrible situation where you call in a friend unit and their skills are all in the wrong order, or worse, they have important skills unequipped. Hope we get that early, too!

    Elderlycrawfishchrono_traveller
  • ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    Oh also announced for JP, we will eventually get reset stones, which will allow you to take off a sphere that you set on a character without losing that sphere.

    I can finally start equipping these darn things and not feel too bad about it later!

    ....also 7* armors.

    ....and Awakening level 80.

    The grind continues.

    PSN/Steam - Elderlycrawfish
    chrono_travellerRius
  • FryFry Registered User regular
    Oh also announced for JP, we will eventually get reset stones, which will allow you to take off a sphere that you set on a character without losing that sphere.

    I can finally start equipping these darn things and not feel too bad about it later!

    Careful, the info I saw suggested that reset spheres will cost gems. Because I guess they really don't want people resetting spheres :X

    Still though, I think most spheres you can just go ahead and use when you want. Certainly, anything that is just ATK, damage, or Max BRV at 10%, which is by my rough estimation 2/3 of them, you can just use.

  • ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    RNG is such a silly thing. Decided to use a few tickets more and got two Bartz EX back to back. Good grief.

    Farmed Brothers like crazy, I still have a few more runs I'd like to do but got all of the treasure nodes, and all of my decent characters have mastery. Looking forward to being done with farming until the next time.

    PSN/Steam - Elderlycrawfish
    chrono_traveller
  • chrono_travellerchrono_traveller Registered User regular
    RNG is such a silly thing. Decided to use a few tickets more and got two Bartz EX back to back. Good grief.

    Farmed Brothers like crazy, I still have a few more runs I'd like to do but got all of the treasure nodes, and all of my decent characters have mastery. Looking forward to being done with farming until the next time.

    I've had a wild luck ride myself. After they announced the global first wasn't a character I was interested in (or knew of), I decided to try and get Yuffie's or Bartz's EX. I figured I stop after getting one or the other....

    about 150 tickets and 75k gems later, had to use the pity tokens and decided on Yuffie (I figured I could get Bartz's EX from the Dimension's End EX shop if I wanted (yes, I still haven't used those tokens. Have I mentioned before that I suffer from analysis paralysis?). Basically setting me to broke on gems and tickets.

    Then on the free pull for Maria's banner, who previously only had like a 15cp with 1 LB, I got both her EX and her 35 cp. :rotate:

    Then, wanting to get Eiko's EX, I tried pulling on her with tickets, and like 20 tickets (helpful with the anniversary event), I got her EX. So, that was nice. :)

    Also, haven't had this in awhile, but ran into a guy who, when being matched up for the Cosmos co-op mission (in "just for fun" no less), wouldn't start the mission with my Eiko (I'm sitting here with EX+ with 2 LBs, and maxed out, realized armor) because I only had 1 summon board maxed with her. WTH, man?!

    Anyways, needless to say, I'm not gonna be drawing except for the free pulls for awhile. I already have Golbez's EX, so thats no problem, but I'd kinda like to draw for Gau. He's not my favorite FF6 character (in fact, he's probably down towards the bottom, because his skill was pretty stupid), but he's still FF6, so I guess I'll see.

    The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it. ~ Terry Pratchett
    Elderlycrawfish
  • ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    I still haven't used my tokens to pick up an EX either. Go Team Indecision!

    PSN/Steam - Elderlycrawfish
    chrono_traveller
  • ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    Golbez LC is up, good luck on your free pulls.

    I got a Seven 35 and Golbez 15, which at least I could use for limit breaking. Picked up Seven's EX about a dozen tickets later.

    She'd be an interesting niche character to run but I've got too many "better" choices that my ingots should probably go to. Someday, perhaps.

    PSN/Steam - Elderlycrawfish
  • chrono_travellerchrono_traveller Registered User regular
    Free pull netted me all of one Seven's 15cp weapon. :razz:

    The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it. ~ Terry Pratchett
    Fry
  • 411Randle411Randle Librarian Oook.Registered User regular
    I went hard after Sephiroth's EX and finally ended up with it, shame I couldn't pick up Eiko's as well. Only drawn once on Golbez but I'm not really into using him anyway once I've cleared the LC

    1) Silence 2) Books must be returned by the last date shown 3) Do not interfere with the nature of causality
    chrono_travellerElderlycrawfish
  • chrono_travellerchrono_traveller Registered User regular
    Already had Golbez's EX from before, but I had 3 bars so I said wth, and maxed it out.

    Twin Meteor is pretty cray cray, now!

    I got Golbez's Brother's board mastered, so he's 4/5, only missing Leviathan. Should probably go back at some point and get all of them.

    Also, random question, but what game is "The Brothers" from? Was talking about this with a friend of mine, and Titan seemed to be the more obvious choice for an earth summon.

    The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it. ~ Terry Pratchett
  • FryFry Registered User regular
    edited February 2020
    Brothers as a summon is from FF8. They're also in FF5

    May as well take Golbez, Seven, and Laguna around to all of the summon boards you haven't done for them now, while they're on 2x XP. The new "sort by 2x XP" is great for catching up on boards

    Fry on
    Elderlycrawfish
  • FryFry Registered User regular
    Completed Golbez LC Chaos on the first try, with Golbez 0/3, Bartz 3/3, Yshtola 3/3, friend Tifa.

    Golbez HP+ is way better than I was expecting. That solves a ton of problems for him, especially in team compositions like the one I used, where he has some batteries and some bonus overflow assistance.

    Elderlycrawfishchrono_travellerRius
  • FryFry Registered User regular
    Got King EX in my free draw. Then two more copies of it on my way to getting Eight EX. Guess I'm doin this

    Elderlycrawfishchrono_traveller
  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    I managed to grind maybe a dozen people to full Brothers boards today, the first real investment of time I did on that two weeks of content, lol. I continue to muddle along completing maybe 90% of time limited content.

    On the other hand my luck's been pretty good; I pulled Rosa's EX right before the banner expired, but since then I've gotten Emperor, Eiko, and Golbez. Fuck if I have ingots to put into anybody because I still haven't touched the upper two tiers of Entropy content, lol.

    I haven't spent money in a while even with the kupo cards, just kind of wondering if I want to keep playing. The two year mark is when I dipped out of FFRK and FFBE, though I'm not feeling that pressure 100% here yet. I do really like this game's combat system, it's just that there's a lot of grinds now and I don't really want to sit on my phone all evening doing shit.

  • chrono_travellerchrono_traveller Registered User regular
    Zack banner out. Free pull got me...

    2 of Noctis' 15cp weapon. :bigfrown:

    The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it. ~ Terry Pratchett
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