I agree that Aranea is hilarious. It's not hard to deal upwards of 40k with her HP++ to the primary target, with 50% splash. So, 60k per turn, with extremely long longevity as long as you aren't burning skills any faster than you have to. And she gets free turns quite regularly to double up on that. As a comparison, recently released DPS characters generally have to burn skills to do more than 40k per turn, and often have trouble doing more than 60k in a turn without using an EX ability.
Noctis is interesting, in that he can also deal 60k per turn with his HP++, but it requires a bit more setup/teambuilding, and often times* his skills will only deal 30k. And he doesn't get free turns.
* I recently saw the suggestion of using Noctis' free ability uses on his AA, which I haven't tried yet. Hurts his longevity a bit, but does boost the average damage of his skills a good deal.
Interesting, reviewing Irvine's kit, since he's getting EX+ on tonight's Rinoa banner. He's going to be a decent support when completely built: aside from inflicting one of the bigger SPD down effects (-30%) and Ranged Resist Down, he also provides a healthy +60% ATK, +40% Max BRV, and +20% ranged-brv-steal overflow via auras. And he heals now (lolwut?), with his EX and HP++ attacks.
Ranged resist down seems like it would pair really well with Aranea, hmmm.
Sort of. She already deals gobs of damage, so I don't know if you need it for general use. If you want to use her against things that are Resistant to ranged, it would help, but Chaos/Dimensions' End is usually "tough" against (whatever), and Ranged Resist Down only modifies Tough vs Ranged to Resistant.
The increased overflow is nice, though, and 60% ATK/40% Max BRV is certainly solid.
Keep in mind that about half of Irvine's Attack bonus to the party is a Physical Attack buff. This doesn't conflict with too many characters, but it's something to consider. His EX+ and rework definitely shift him into an offensive support role, though.
Keep in mind that about half of Irvine's Attack bonus to the party is a Physical Attack buff. This doesn't conflict with too many characters, but it's something to consider. His EX+ and rework definitely shift him into an offensive support role, though.
I don't see group Physical Attack anywhere in his kit? Maybe the resource I'm looking at (safeena spreadsheet) is wrong.
Snipe buff: party +20% ATK/+20% Ranged BRV steal overflow
c54: party +30% ATK/+30% Max BRV
c68: party +10% ATK/+10% Max BRV
I could believe that Snipe was party +ranged attack, but that's not what the source I'm looking at says
Yay, finally cleared my first Cosmos difficulty fight! I feel I still have a long way to go before I can clear a Chaos one tho...
If you're willing to try, most of the good Chaos rewards are for clears, not completions. It sucks to do it, but you can revive a few times and still walk away with a win for the rewards. For time sensitive events, might be worth trying. Can never have enough realization materials.....
Materials to get people up to crystal 70 have been raining from the sky the last few weeks, in conjunction with farming the appropriate cycle quest for XP and lower-tier crystals it shouldn't be too hard to get folks to 70/70. If you were around for the last raid, you should have a few Blooms available. Then it's just a matter of what realizable weapons you have, and how many books/ingots you've gotten so far, and trying to build an appropriate team for the particular battle you're looking at.
Doing summon boards can be time consuming, especially if your characters aren't on 2x XP right now, but they aren't strictly necessary. If you have time and XP books to use, I'd recommend doing Ifrit (ATK and crit damage) for your DPS characters and Ramuh (evasion!) for everybody. The other summon boards aren't nearly as impactful IMO
Raw stats wise they are amazing. 192 attack just from Ifrit/Shiva. 288 after Ramuh. 100% I'd say boards are the easiest way to get the biggest boost. Especially with those first three being easily cheesed by Aranea. Haven't sat down to see how fast the other ones are yet.
Keep in mind that about half of Irvine's Attack bonus to the party is a Physical Attack buff. This doesn't conflict with too many characters, but it's something to consider. His EX+ and rework definitely shift him into an offensive support role, though.
I don't see group Physical Attack anywhere in his kit? Maybe the resource I'm looking at (safeena spreadsheet) is wrong.
Snipe buff: party +20% ATK/+20% Ranged BRV steal overflow
c54: party +30% ATK/+30% Max BRV
c68: party +10% ATK/+10% Max BRV
I could believe that Snipe was party +ranged attack, but that's not what the source I'm looking at says
The confusion is coming from Irvine's C54 passive. It is not in fact a party aura, but a self-buffing passive. So, the only auras Irvine provides comes from his C68 and Snipe buff.
Irvine's S2, Canister Shot, provides a party Physical Attack Up buff.
Edit: I just checked and I'm pretty sure Safeena has it wrong. It's listed as a party aura there, but according to dissidiadb it only affects Irvine.
Edit2: Okay, it looks like I was wrong. A resource I was using was showing the wrong C54 passive for Irvine and I got confused. Sorry for the mixup Fry.
Looks like I was wrong, Fry. Irvine's C54 does provide a party aura. The resource I was checking had it wrong for that one specific passive and I trusted it too much. Apologies.
Irvine does indeed have a +60% Atk aura with EX buff and can provide a further Phys Atk buff along with it.
The current EX token shop for doing DE: Order doesn't really change much, I believe? Basically it's an EX for the main protag for every game.
Eventually a new EX weapon exchange opens up around the Burst weapons introduction, I think. That's a few months out.
Oh is that how that works? Well, nuts. Oh well, she'll come back around, and in the meantime, nothing lost but free tickets. (That TBF got me a loaded Noctis.)
Do not spend real money on this game, it's a terrible deal.
Well, maybe buy a costume if you really want. Still a terrible deal, but at least you will look cool
Oh I did. Buy a costume, that is. (I am sad I think Rinoa's default outfit looks better, but yes I did buy that package.) I am not (okay, only mildly) ashamed of it.
And yeah, 450 bucks at a minimum for a pity is just... No. No way, man. Holy hell, when I can go "a weapon thingie in a video game ooooooor a first-class flight to Vegas"...
And Fry, you're right about Irvine's Phys Atk buff too. Ouch, I really misread his kit yesterday.
As far as monetization goes, I consider DFFOO this way: compared to other mobile gatcha games it is pretty generous with what you get for free. Between gems and tickets from events, lost chapters, story chapters, and summon boards, you can coast without spending money forever if you are a little more frugal with where you spend your resources. And while this game does suffer from power creep, it tends to occur at a slow enough rate that you do not need to be constantly pulling.
That said, the gem packages are laughably expensive. This is not unique to DFFOO, mind you, but when you consider everything you can get in the game for free it makes them a harder pill to swallow. I've bought several if the costume bundles, but in all honesty if there had been cheaper variants of the bundles with less gems I would have bought those instead. My opinion is support the game if you want to and are having fun, but be careful. The prices are silly in the US, and speaking to people from other countries they can be even worse in other parts of the world.
I did Zack (+3), Bartz (+3), Lenna (not realized), Leviathan summon for DE 7. I had a decent amount of wiggle room. Used my summon vs the beetles because turn order was about to be a problem: both of them had their ALL attacks queued up, and I wasn't sure my squishy people had enough HP to take two of those at once with no time in between to regen.
Zack makes those freaking Crust Beetles infinitely more manageable. The Crust Beetles are polite enough to turn on Leviathan's BRV regen pretty early, and it lasts the entire rest of the fight.
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i had to summon during beetles as well because of the same issue
I'm kind of on the fence about purpling Terra or Agrias. I have a bunch of magic DPS, so Terra isn't a major priority I guess. Agrias' utility is appealing, so I think I'm leaning that way.
I've been sitting on Agrias at EX+2 for quite a while. The only thing +3 gets you is more damage on her EX, which, while it certainly isn't nothing, is IMO not that huge of an upgrade, especially since you don't get to use it all that frequently. On the other hand, it's just one more ingot, so why not?
Feb 28 - awakenings batch
- Onion, Ashe, Prishe, Yuri, Kefka, Raijin
- Yuri Rework
- First multi draw free (both banners)
- Onion costume
- Heretic Quests through Mar 13
Mar 3 - Lulu LC
Mar 6 - Kam'lanaut event
- Shantotto costume
Mar 11 - WoI Pandemonium Ultimate
- super synergy through Mar 25: Edge, Freya, Vivi, Lion, Penelo, Yshtola
- the above characters will ALSO be super synergy for all previous summons for the duration
- reworks for Edge, Penelo
- level 70 and 100 co-op quests
Mar 11 - Dimensions' End Tier 8
- tough against ranged attacks
- tip: bring elemental resist down debuffs
Mar 16 - Lann & Reynn LC
- L+R, Edgar reworks
Mar 19 - Mystery character (Ciaran) event
- Layle costume re-run
- Layle rework
Mar 23 - Spring Festival
- March of the Machines co-op
- free multi draws
- spring panel missions
- limited time abyss (?)
- cycle quest x2
- daily mission x3
Yuri gets a rework along with his EX weapon and its Realization tonight. Everything seems to point towards him becoming very strong with it, the only downside is that he cannot maintain his special EX buff stance indefinitely. It lasts 3 turns and I think even with ability spam it takes 3 ability uses to recharge. Upside is he gets ability recovery on his EX use, so ability spam is a viable option for some fights. Also note he becomes pure Holy element with his rework, and his EX ability will imperil Holy.
Onion Knight also gets an EX Realization. It gives him Ice Enchant and party BRV overflow in a new buff, access to an HP+ in both Ninja and Sage stances, and makes Meteorite a more useful button to push thanks to 100% AoE HP damage. He will also imperil Ice on EX use.
I know it isn't particularly good, but I really want to get prishe's EX. I've missed it twice so far. Hmm.
Really the only thing I'm currently waiting for is Arciela so I guess wasting some resources shouldn't hurt.
Prishe gets her EX+ in Arciela's event, so maybe wait for it? Or not, if you want to Prishe right now. Up to you, really
Oh she's on the same banner? Guess I can wait then. Getting random ex is my super power, but if it's an ex I actually want I know I'll have to pity. So I'm sure Arciela will be another 300 pointer to add to the list.
I kind of want Onion's EX but probably shouldn't hit that banner anymore. He's one of my 5 options (OK, Yuna, Shantotto, Decil, Layle) for those EX tokens though, maybe I should bite the bullet and finally use those.
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Noctis is interesting, in that he can also deal 60k per turn with his HP++, but it requires a bit more setup/teambuilding, and often times* his skills will only deal 30k. And he doesn't get free turns.
* I recently saw the suggestion of using Noctis' free ability uses on his AA, which I haven't tried yet. Hurts his longevity a bit, but does boost the average damage of his skills a good deal.
Sort of. She already deals gobs of damage, so I don't know if you need it for general use. If you want to use her against things that are Resistant to ranged, it would help, but Chaos/Dimensions' End is usually "tough" against (whatever), and Ranged Resist Down only modifies Tough vs Ranged to Resistant.
The increased overflow is nice, though, and 60% ATK/40% Max BRV is certainly solid.
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I don't see group Physical Attack anywhere in his kit? Maybe the resource I'm looking at (safeena spreadsheet) is wrong.
Snipe buff: party +20% ATK/+20% Ranged BRV steal overflow
c54: party +30% ATK/+30% Max BRV
c68: party +10% ATK/+10% Max BRV
I could believe that Snipe was party +ranged attack, but that's not what the source I'm looking at says
If you're willing to try, most of the good Chaos rewards are for clears, not completions. It sucks to do it, but you can revive a few times and still walk away with a win for the rewards. For time sensitive events, might be worth trying. Can never have enough realization materials.....
Doing summon boards can be time consuming, especially if your characters aren't on 2x XP right now, but they aren't strictly necessary. If you have time and XP books to use, I'd recommend doing Ifrit (ATK and crit damage) for your DPS characters and Ramuh (evasion!) for everybody. The other summon boards aren't nearly as impactful IMO
The confusion is coming from Irvine's C54 passive. It is not in fact a party aura, but a self-buffing passive. So, the only auras Irvine provides comes from his C68 and Snipe buff.
Irvine's S2, Canister Shot, provides a party Physical Attack Up buff.
Edit: I just checked and I'm pretty sure Safeena has it wrong. It's listed as a party aura there, but according to dissidiadb it only affects Irvine.
Edit2: Okay, it looks like I was wrong. A resource I was using was showing the wrong C54 passive for Irvine and I got confused. Sorry for the mixup Fry.
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Irvine does indeed have a +60% Atk aura with EX buff and can provide a further Phys Atk buff along with it.
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And the c54 just got updated from self to party today, so we were both sort of right
Also got Squall's 35 maxed (complete now) + Irvine's EX/15, so I suppose it could be worse.
Edit: Also burnt the rest of my tickets on Aranea, and now have roughly 300 Main Gauches and a small fort made from her 15s.
Also no I worked out how much money 70k gems would be if I bought 'em and uh uh that's my next flight to Vegas, that banner can keep the lance.
Edit: When do EX weapons show up in the token shop I can't remotely access yet? A while after release I assume.
Eventually a new EX weapon exchange opens up around the Burst weapons introduction, I think. That's a few months out.
Oh is that how that works? Well, nuts. Oh well, she'll come back around, and in the meantime, nothing lost but free tickets. (That TBF got me a loaded Noctis.)
Well, maybe buy a costume if you really want. Still a terrible deal, but at least you will look cool
The kupo cards are good when they are around and when that monthly pass thing comes out later I'll be picking that up if I'm active. That's about it.
But otherwise the game is hella generous with gems and tickets as long as you aren't trying to get absolutely everything that comes out.
Oh I did. Buy a costume, that is. (I am sad I think Rinoa's default outfit looks better, but yes I did buy that package.) I am not (okay, only mildly) ashamed of it.
And yeah, 450 bucks at a minimum for a pity is just... No. No way, man. Holy hell, when I can go "a weapon thingie in a video game ooooooor a first-class flight to Vegas"...
As far as monetization goes, I consider DFFOO this way: compared to other mobile gatcha games it is pretty generous with what you get for free. Between gems and tickets from events, lost chapters, story chapters, and summon boards, you can coast without spending money forever if you are a little more frugal with where you spend your resources. And while this game does suffer from power creep, it tends to occur at a slow enough rate that you do not need to be constantly pulling.
That said, the gem packages are laughably expensive. This is not unique to DFFOO, mind you, but when you consider everything you can get in the game for free it makes them a harder pill to swallow. I've bought several if the costume bundles, but in all honesty if there had been cheaper variants of the bundles with less gems I would have bought those instead. My opinion is support the game if you want to and are having fun, but be careful. The prices are silly in the US, and speaking to people from other countries they can be even worse in other parts of the world.
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Not that I'm complaining, it's nice when games give you pity systems and such.
Couldn't really have cut it any closer
Zack Seph Ignis, Brothers summon
Zack makes those freaking Crust Beetles infinitely more manageable. The Crust Beetles are polite enough to turn on Leviathan's BRV regen pretty early, and it lasts the entire rest of the fight.
Free Pull: Only one gold-Terra's EX (oh, you're mocking me now, game! :razz: )
Second Pull: 2 golds-Both Terra's 15s
Well screw you, banner! I never liked Gau, and his stupid random skill anyway!
Decided to do a couple more because I wanted Terra ex and I got it so yay. Time to purple her I guess? Gonna wait on Gau LD to chase him I suppose.
- Onion, Ashe, Prishe, Yuri, Kefka, Raijin
- Yuri Rework
- First multi draw free (both banners)
- Onion costume
- Heretic Quests through Mar 13
Mar 3 - Lulu LC
Mar 6 - Kam'lanaut event
- Shantotto costume
Mar 11 - WoI Pandemonium Ultimate
- super synergy through Mar 25: Edge, Freya, Vivi, Lion, Penelo, Yshtola
- the above characters will ALSO be super synergy for all previous summons for the duration
- reworks for Edge, Penelo
- level 70 and 100 co-op quests
Mar 11 - Dimensions' End Tier 8
- tough against ranged attacks
- tip: bring elemental resist down debuffs
Mar 16 - Lann & Reynn LC
- L+R, Edgar reworks
Mar 19 - Mystery character (Ciaran) event
- Layle costume re-run
- Layle rework
Mar 27 - Awakenings batch 9
- Papalymo, Cid, Snow, Seymour, Kain, Quistis
- Seymour and Papalymo reworks
- Raid Quests (Cerberus)
Mar 23 - Spring Festival
- March of the Machines co-op
- free multi draws
- spring panel missions
- limited time abyss (?)
- cycle quest x2
- daily mission x3
Onion Knight also gets an EX Realization. It gives him Ice Enchant and party BRV overflow in a new buff, access to an HP+ in both Ninja and Sage stances, and makes Meteorite a more useful button to push thanks to 100% AoE HP damage. He will also imperil Ice on EX use.
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New Awakening batch dropped, good luck to all.
On the kefka banner, got a powerstone and Prishe 35.
On the OK/Yuri banner, two powerstones and Yuri EX get!
Really the only thing I'm currently waiting for is Arciela so I guess wasting some resources shouldn't hurt.
Prishe gets her EX+ in Arciela's event, so maybe wait for it? Or not, if you want to Prishe right now. Up to you, really
Oh she's on the same banner? Guess I can wait then. Getting random ex is my super power, but if it's an ex I actually want I know I'll have to pity. So I'm sure Arciela will be another 300 pointer to add to the list.