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[Android] Thread v. 2018: your pixel 4 battery will die before you finish reading this

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Welcome to the brand new and shiny all encompassing Android Thread. This is a place where we can discuss Android in all of it’s many forms, and boy does it have many forms.

What is Android?

Android is an open source operating system. It lives on everything from Phones, to tablets, to Fridges. The folks around these parts know it mostly on phones and maybe tablets, and that’s what we spend most of our time talking about.

Yea, I’m mostly here for phones, tell me about that.


Sure, Yes, Android is mostly known for user on Phones. Android currently runs on about 81% of all smartphones operating in the world. It may not seem like to to those of us in North America, but leave that continent, and if someone is using a smartphone, it is Probably an Android phone.

Why is it so popular?

The easy answer is scale. Android runs on phones that vary in cost from $50 US to $1100 US (and higher, if you count boutique phones). This makes android very accessible to a majority of people. This is mostly because as an open source operating system, Android itself is free to use.

The other answer is customization. Again, because it is free and open source, anyone can take Android and build and modify it to suit specific needs to a group of people or device. This makes it very extensible and powerful. No two android phones will be/look the same, because everyone can modify it. However, this can be a bad thing, more on that later.

To prove the Customization, here are a bunch of Android homscreens. In here is mostly the "stock" launchers on a few well known phones, as well as a couple custom looks
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You haven’t even mentioned Google yet…

That’s on purpose. Google does own android, and does the majority of work on Android, and 99% of the the time we associate Android with Google, for good reason. If you own an Android phone chances are it has google services on it. Google services are what most people actually associate with Android. Google services are the apps and, err, services that OEM’s have to put on android phones to get the Play Store, which is another Google Service. It’s kind of complicated, I know).

Who makes Android phones?

The list is too long, literally everyone who makes phones but Apple makes Android.

But the popular Android phones are Samsung and…. Well in the mass market space, Samsung. People may gripe about Samsung Android phones, but they’re popular for a reason. Samsung makes the best high end phones for most people in the Galaxy S and Galaxy Note lines. They’re phones are less competitive in the midrange but the brand name means they also sell a metric ton of them. They probably sell more Galaxy A and Galaxy J phones than any other OEM outside of china sells of all their phones combined. I personally own a GS8+ and I frankly love it.

Now, for those of us more likely to read the Android thread on the Penny-Arcade Forums, phones from these companies are generally well regarded:

Google
Samsung
LG
OnePlus
Huawei (some phones)
Nokia (seriously)

What about Tablets?

Oh boy. This is a thing. Look, I personally own 3 Android tablets. But Android tablets are terrible and basically no one should buy them. The first android tablet was released in 2011. In 2018, there are still probably less than 100 truly good tablet optimized apps for Android. Because of that, even with good hardware, the software situation makes them not a great purchase.

Ok, what about Android apps on Chromebooks?


Also a thing. Look, the same problem exists, just in a slightly different context. Android apps on chromebooks can run windowed, but again, 99.9999% of apps run in the small phone screen mode. You can run them full screen, but the same problem exists as on tablets. Some apps support dynamic sizing (think apps/windows on Windows or MacOS). But the number of apps that support that is basically the Microsoft Office apps.

So yea, the future of Android tablets might actually be chromebooks, but honestly it’s not a great future either.

Is rooting and rom’ing still a thing?

Yes, but not as much as it used to be. You’ll still of course find some people that think that rooting a phone is the only way to make it useful, but the reality is that the vast majority people, including power users, don’t really need to root anymore. Back in the Android 2.x days it let you add features that were legit missing from the OS, there’s just less need for that anymore.

Loading a custom ROM is also not as popular as it used to be, but there are still legit reasons for it. If you’re stuck on a phone that sill works but won’t be seeing another OS update, a custom ROM can breathe new life into it. Your mileage very much vary’s here, and honestly, if you’re looking to put a custom ROM on your phoen XDA is a better place than here, and we wish you luck.

Talk about updates

I left this for last because this is a shitty subject. I’ll tackle the Major updates first. Think Going from Android 7.0 to 8.0.

To get it out of the way: Android will never have the platform adoption numbers that Apple has. Full stop.

If you’re not getting a Google phone and want a phone that is most likely to get updates, though not exactly timely, Samsung is the next best choice. Samsung generally updates their phones for 2 years after release, and as of this writing there is indication that the 3 year old Galaxy S6 will be getting Oreo.

With that out of the way: If having the latest Android release the day it becomes available is the most important factor to you, Get a Google Pixel device. End of story.

Past that, it gets a bit nuanced and difficult and complicated and it sucks.

Basically, you have to look at the history of the company that makes the phone. Look at prior phones as a guide. Back to Samsung, they do update their phones for a couple years, but usually 6 or so months after the code drop. Others, like OnePlus are…. Not consistent. They usually update, but the time it takes them to update varies widely. LG…. I guess they update most of the time, but it’s not a guarantee. Some smaller manufacturers also do update, Nokia has promised Android 8 on their newer Android phones, but we havne’t seen it yet so we don’t have a track record to go on.

Oh, and then there are carriers. IF you live in the US and bought a carrier branded phone they have to give their blessing before their phoens get updated. Yea, it’s a mess.

Basically…. The state of Android version updates is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Lastly, security updates. This is almost as ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ as the platform updates. Google releases a monthly patch to Android, just like what Microsoft does with Windows. Except that Google doesn’t get to push the security updates like Microsoft does. So Some phones get updated every month. The Pixels do, the Blackberry Android phones do, Unlocked Samsung phones do. Past that: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    Reserved for future post about "best phones in x price range"

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  • minor incidentminor incident Helen Keller to the bullshit Registered User regular
    AT&T needs to hurry the fuck up with this Oreo update for my S8+.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    edited February 2018
    So, related to that, Samsung has halted the update, because I guess there have been reports of phones rebooting?

    So I mean, they're not the first or last to have to halt an update because of bugs, but good job guys. I guess I can stop mashing the check for updates button now.

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  • minor incidentminor incident Helen Keller to the bullshit Registered User regular
    You would think months of betas would have weeded something like that out.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    You would think months of betas would have weeded something like that out.

    yeaaaaa

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    Canadians! The Nokia 6 is finally available in an easy to acquire method. Amazon.ca has it now. $290

    https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B072FN59FH/ref=olp_product_details?_encoding=UTF8&me=

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  • minor incidentminor incident Helen Keller to the bullshit Registered User regular
    And a reminder, the Nokia 6 is a great damn phone, so you Canadians should get on that if you want a sub $500 phone.

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  • RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    What program do you use to control a galaxy S4 from the PC when the screen is destroyed?

    I need my phone back before I get another.

  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    I mean, sidesync is usually the easy one, but if the screen doesn't turn on at all its really too late.

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  • MugsleyMugsley Registered User regular
    I'm getting really frustrated with this "feature" and I can't figure out if it's Android itself or Nova Launcher.

    My notification shade and uh...button bar? (where the home and back buttons are) now change color between white and black depending on my wallpaper and app I have open.

    I can't seem to find the option to make them dark all the time.

    Related: Chrome seems to now turn that bar white all the time and it's jarring.

  • SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    Mugsley wrote: »
    I'm getting really frustrated with this "feature" and I can't figure out if it's Android itself or Nova Launcher.

    My notification shade and uh...button bar? (where the home and back buttons are) now change color between white and black depending on my wallpaper and app I have open.

    I can't seem to find the option to make them dark all the time.

    Related: Chrome seems to now turn that bar white all the time and it's jarring.

    That's Android Oreo.

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  • NaphtaliNaphtali Null Registered User regular
    SirToasty wrote: »
    Mugsley wrote: »
    I'm getting really frustrated with this "feature" and I can't figure out if it's Android itself or Nova Launcher.

    My notification shade and uh...button bar? (where the home and back buttons are) now change color between white and black depending on my wallpaper and app I have open.

    I can't seem to find the option to make them dark all the time.

    Related: Chrome seems to now turn that bar white all the time and it's jarring.

    That's Android Oreo.

    Yeah they changed something in the latest patch, I really dislike the white button bar

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    Naphtali wrote: »
    SirToasty wrote: »
    Mugsley wrote: »
    I'm getting really frustrated with this "feature" and I can't figure out if it's Android itself or Nova Launcher.

    My notification shade and uh...button bar? (where the home and back buttons are) now change color between white and black depending on my wallpaper and app I have open.

    I can't seem to find the option to make them dark all the time.

    Related: Chrome seems to now turn that bar white all the time and it's jarring.

    That's Android Oreo.

    Yeah they changed something in the latest patch, I really dislike the white button bar

    It's actually a measure to reduce the onset of burn-in from the navigation buttons.

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  • MugsleyMugsley Registered User regular
    So I guess there's no way to shut that off?

  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    Mugsley wrote: »
    So I guess there's no way to shut that off?

    Nope, it is part of the image on Pixel devices.

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  • AbsalonAbsalon Registered User regular
    It feels like we know everything about the S9 except the price at this point.

  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    edited February 2018
    So, the MWC news dump has started.

    LG has announced a number of new SQU's of the V30, they're the LGv V0 S+ ThinQ (not making that up). More storage, more Ram

    The GS9 is official. It's leaked to hell, but the last piece is complete. The S9 is $720US. the S9+ will probably be $820

    Nokia announced all the things. https://www.androidcentral.com/nokia-announces-nokia-8-sirocco-nokia-7-plus-nokia-1

    And Android One is apparently finally a thing, but apparently shitty.

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  • Doctor DetroitDoctor Detroit Registered User regular
    edited February 2018
    Absalon wrote: »
    It feels like we know everything about the S9 except the price at this point.

    https://www.cnet.com/products/samsung-galaxy-s9/preview/

    Starts at $720, looks like.

    Edit: totally didn’t see the post above. But link has some additional info.

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  • JazzJazz Un-UKRegistered User regular
    There's already an LG V30+ with 128GB onboard storage and dual-sim, but it's an import phone. Is it just that rebranded, I wonder?

  • Doctor DetroitDoctor Detroit Registered User regular
    Wife and I are looking at new phones, since we both have the iPhone 6 and they’re starting to show their age.

    Her 2 big wants seem to be as good a camera as possible and a headphone jack.

    I’m thinking the S9 Plus meets those criteria.

    She’s a bit ambivalent about leaving FaceTime, since it seems like everyone we know has iPhones. But between Skype, Facebook Messenger, Google Hangouts, and the family iPad, I think we can deal with it.

    Any thoughts from anyone on going iOS—>Android? Or any concerns or things I may not be aware of?

  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    My S7 is running poorly and I can't wait to upgrade to an S9. My carrier can't give a date for its release yet though.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    Wife and I are looking at new phones, since we both have the iPhone 6 and they’re starting to show their age.

    Her 2 big wants seem to be as good a camera as possible and a headphone jack.

    I’m thinking the S9 Plus meets those criteria.

    She’s a bit ambivalent about leaving FaceTime, since it seems like everyone we know has iPhones. But between Skype, Facebook Messenger, Google Hangouts, and the family iPad, I think we can deal with it.

    Any thoughts from anyone on going iOS—>Android? Or any concerns or things I may not be aware of?

    the concerns are a pretty standard couple questions you just have to ask yourself/herself.
    • How are either of you with dealing with change? They're still phones that still do the same things, but they do them differently. There are different ways of accomplishing some of the same tasks on iOS and Android. If that doesn't bother you, great
    • What do you have actually invested in iOS? I know you said you have an iPad but if you've invested a lot of money into the ecosystem (apps, itunes content, etc) than that might be a barrier.

    Those seem simple, but really think hard about them. My dad's iPhone 6 broke last summer, and he replaced it with a brand new iPhone..... 6S. He's similarly stuck on the headphone jack, but for him he's had an iPhone since the 4, and he and my mom each have an iPhone and iPad and while he asked me if he should consider a "phone like yours" [mine, the GS8+]. I stopped him mid sentence and said no. I know him, and know it would have been a giant nightmare and all I would have done for 4 months is help him with it and it wouldn't have been a great experience for either of us.

    I do think it's asinine that Apple doesn't offer a modern iPhone with a headphone jack though. I actually do think that eventually when he has to replace his 6S in a year or two he might end up on Android then because my dad has a couple sets of really nice wired headphones and doesn't want to give them up, and the dongle situation is stupid. To keep this on an Android thought, It's a disturbing trend to see them going away on some phones in the Android ecosystem, especially on the Pixels, but I'm glad we do have choice, and 100% that one of the factors in the S9 getting the push is that it still has a headphone jack.

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  • MugsleyMugsley Registered User regular
    I'm calling bullshit on the Nokia 7110 re-release. Everyone is touting it as the Matrix phone, but it doesn't have the spring loaded cover!

    1) I spent years looking for a version; only to just now discover that the spring-loaded part was a mod by a PA for the movie.

    2) HOW DO YOU NOT SPEND SOME MONEY TO ADD THAT FEATURE!?!!??

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  • NaphtaliNaphtali Null Registered User regular
    wunderbar wrote: »
    Wife and I are looking at new phones, since we both have the iPhone 6 and they’re starting to show their age.

    Her 2 big wants seem to be as good a camera as possible and a headphone jack.

    I’m thinking the S9 Plus meets those criteria.

    She’s a bit ambivalent about leaving FaceTime, since it seems like everyone we know has iPhones. But between Skype, Facebook Messenger, Google Hangouts, and the family iPad, I think we can deal with it.

    Any thoughts from anyone on going iOS—>Android? Or any concerns or things I may not be aware of?

    the concerns are a pretty standard couple questions you just have to ask yourself/herself.
    • How are either of you with dealing with change? They're still phones that still do the same things, but they do them differently. There are different ways of accomplishing some of the same tasks on iOS and Android. If that doesn't bother you, great
    • What do you have actually invested in iOS? I know you said you have an iPad but if you've invested a lot of money into the ecosystem (apps, itunes content, etc) than that might be a barrier.

    Those seem simple, but really think hard about them. My dad's iPhone 6 broke last summer, and he replaced it with a brand new iPhone..... 6S. He's similarly stuck on the headphone jack, but for him he's had an iPhone since the 4, and he and my mom each have an iPhone and iPad and while he asked me if he should consider a "phone like yours" [mine, the GS8+]. I stopped him mid sentence and said no. I know him, and know it would have been a giant nightmare and all I would have done for 4 months is help him with it and it wouldn't have been a great experience for either of us.

    I do think it's asinine that Apple doesn't offer a modern iPhone with a headphone jack though. I actually do think that eventually when he has to replace his 6S in a year or two he might end up on Android then because my dad has a couple sets of really nice wired headphones and doesn't want to give them up, and the dongle situation is stupid. To keep this on an Android thought, It's a disturbing trend to see them going away on some phones in the Android ecosystem, especially on the Pixels, but I'm glad we do have choice, and 100% that one of the factors in the S9 getting the push is that it still has a headphone jack.

    The S9 premier video from Samsung on youtube was basically 95% "OH MY GOD THIS CAMERA!" and 5% "we have a headphone jack", and basically nothing else about the phone.

    It was weird.

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  • KrieghundKrieghund Registered User regular
    Just out of curiosity, since I almost never use mine, what is the big to do about headphone jacks? I can almost see it if you use your phone for music, but anyplace I'm free to listen to music, I have much better options than an earbud.

  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    Naphtali wrote: »
    wunderbar wrote: »
    Wife and I are looking at new phones, since we both have the iPhone 6 and they’re starting to show their age.

    Her 2 big wants seem to be as good a camera as possible and a headphone jack.

    I’m thinking the S9 Plus meets those criteria.

    She’s a bit ambivalent about leaving FaceTime, since it seems like everyone we know has iPhones. But between Skype, Facebook Messenger, Google Hangouts, and the family iPad, I think we can deal with it.

    Any thoughts from anyone on going iOS—>Android? Or any concerns or things I may not be aware of?

    the concerns are a pretty standard couple questions you just have to ask yourself/herself.
    • How are either of you with dealing with change? They're still phones that still do the same things, but they do them differently. There are different ways of accomplishing some of the same tasks on iOS and Android. If that doesn't bother you, great
    • What do you have actually invested in iOS? I know you said you have an iPad but if you've invested a lot of money into the ecosystem (apps, itunes content, etc) than that might be a barrier.

    Those seem simple, but really think hard about them. My dad's iPhone 6 broke last summer, and he replaced it with a brand new iPhone..... 6S. He's similarly stuck on the headphone jack, but for him he's had an iPhone since the 4, and he and my mom each have an iPhone and iPad and while he asked me if he should consider a "phone like yours" [mine, the GS8+]. I stopped him mid sentence and said no. I know him, and know it would have been a giant nightmare and all I would have done for 4 months is help him with it and it wouldn't have been a great experience for either of us.

    I do think it's asinine that Apple doesn't offer a modern iPhone with a headphone jack though. I actually do think that eventually when he has to replace his 6S in a year or two he might end up on Android then because my dad has a couple sets of really nice wired headphones and doesn't want to give them up, and the dongle situation is stupid. To keep this on an Android thought, It's a disturbing trend to see them going away on some phones in the Android ecosystem, especially on the Pixels, but I'm glad we do have choice, and 100% that one of the factors in the S9 getting the push is that it still has a headphone jack.

    The S9 premier video from Samsung on youtube was basically 95% "OH MY GOD THIS CAMERA!" and 5% "we have a headphone jack", and basically nothing else about the phone.

    It was weird.

    I mean, the thing with phones nowadays, there isn't a whole lot to talk about, so you have to really push the things that are different. The GS9 is basically the exact same phone as the GS8 was, with a couple tiny tweaks. If you did put it in apple terms, this would be an "S" phone. That's not a bad thing, the design is still the best out there. At the really high end that these phones are in now, camera is bigger differentiation, and what people are looking for, so it gets pushed a lot.

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  • furlionfurlion Riskbreaker Lea MondeRegistered User regular
    Krieghund wrote: »
    Just out of curiosity, since I almost never use mine, what is the big to do about headphone jacks? I can almost see it if you use your phone for music, but anyplace I'm free to listen to music, I have much better options than an earbud.

    I don't have to charge my headphones or ear buds, nor worry about losing one. Bluetooth is very power hungry compared to the jack. New phones (at least my Samsung phones) have come with new ear buds for at least the last 7 years meaning pretty much everyone has at least one pair. Not everyone wants to shell out $100+ for something that will almost certainly sound worse. And lastly there are some physical accessories that can make use of the headphone jack to do cool stuff, like check your blood sugar if you are diabetic.

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  • minor incidentminor incident Helen Keller to the bullshit Registered User regular
    Krieghund wrote: »
    Just out of curiosity, since I almost never use mine, what is the big to do about headphone jacks? I can almost see it if you use your phone for music, but anyplace I'm free to listen to music, I have much better options than an earbud.

    I don't use cheap earbuds with my phone. I usually either use my aux jack for my car (which has a great sound system), or a pair of over-ear headphones, or custom IEMS. Having a headphone jack is important to me, because I use my phone for music a LOT. This is especially important if your job allows you to listen to music all day, or if you have a long commute. And hey, it's pretty nice to have good sound available even when I'm just waiting for an oil change.

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  • KrieghundKrieghund Registered User regular
    Hmm, my job doesn't allow us to listen to music. Retail, you know. And I use USB in my car. I honestly don't know if I have earbuds or not, I'll have to look. Oh well, at least for me it's not a deal breaker. Hope you guys get relief.

  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    I have and use both bluetooth headphones and wired headphones. Wired do sound better, but yea I'm one of those that sits at a desk at work all day, and I do get to listen to music. I spend the majority of that time listening to wired headphones.

    When I'm generally out and about I'll be using bluetooth, but I have a pair of really good noise cancelling headphones that are wired that I use when travelling.

    Basically the thing is that options are good, and the line that taking out the 3.5mm jack leaves significantly more room for battery is absolute BS and not true at all.

    Apple did it because they want to sell people headphones with their proprietary connector, or earpods, further increasing apple lock in. The reasons are nothing more, nothing less.

    Android OEM's are starting to do it because Apple did it. there's actually no advantage to an Android OEM doing it because none of them have that kind of platform lock in. It makes no sense to do so.

    And USB-C headphones are a mess. It is starting to improve a little bit, but due to differences in DAC's (digitial to audio converters), not all USB-C headphones work on all devices. this is starting to get a little better, but the fact that a person can't take the headphones that came with say, a HTC U11 and plug them into a Pixel 2 is absurd when the 3.5mm jack. just. works.

    The State of USB-C headphones is a post all in itself. It's crazy.

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  • MugsleyMugsley Registered User regular
    Everyone else covers my usage case, and @wunderbar touched on my other need for wired, briefly. Other than at the desk, I use wired buds when I travel because they are much more forgiving on battery life. Which is important when you're on a 6hr flight across the country.

    Also we discussed this briefly in the past but rental car integrated BT is a hot mess, to be kind. Hell, my wife's 2014 Pilot still gets grumpy periodically when we use it. Having the 3.5mm as a backup is nice; though I'll concede in that case that you could use a dongle to get by.

  • autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    Mugsley wrote: »
    Everyone else covers my usage case, and @wunderbar touched on my other need for wired, briefly. Other than at the desk, I use wired buds when I travel because they are much more forgiving on battery life. Which is important when you're on a 6hr flight across the country.

    Also we discussed this briefly in the past but rental car integrated BT is a hot mess, to be kind. Hell, my wife's 2014 Pilot still gets grumpy periodically when we use it. Having the 3.5mm as a backup is nice; though I'll concede in that case that you could use a dongle to get by.

    Well, after a 5h flight recently watching netflix (downloaded), I still had about 45% battery, so I currently need to charge while using just about never..

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  • emp123emp123 Registered User regular
    I'm constantly on calls for work so wired headphones are preferred since l don't have to worry about charging them.

    And then at the gym I still prefer wired headphones because 1) they're louder and 2) I don't have to worry about them dying halfway through my workout (I don't know what I'd do if had to workout with just gym noises and my thoughts to keep me going).

    Not to say a headphone jack is a must for me, but if I have the option in a phone I like I'll take it.

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  • Doctor DetroitDoctor Detroit Registered User regular
    Thanks. I don’t think Apple’s got their hooks too deep in us.

    My wife uses Amazon for most of her music. I’ve got everything uploaded to Google (even the stuff I’ve bought on iTunes)...Google Home, Fire Stick...we’re kind of all over the place. :P

    She makes a lot of conference calls and she likes to both be plugged in and on headphones.

  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    ah, if you're largely platform agnostic already, than it shouldn't be that much of an issue other than just needing to learn how the shiny new thing works.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    Krieghund wrote: »
    Just out of curiosity, since I almost never use mine, what is the big to do about headphone jacks? I can almost see it if you use your phone for music, but anyplace I'm free to listen to music, I have much better options than an earbud.

    I use it for the aux jack in my van for work. I do a ton of driving, sometimes 3-4 hours in a day, so having an easy way to just plug the phone in and go is nice.

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  • NEO|PhyteNEO|Phyte They follow the stars, bound together. Strands in a braid till the end.Registered User regular
    I suspect it varies by model, I tend to lean towards bluetooth because the aux jack on my 5x is shit.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    NEO|Phyte wrote: »
    I suspect it varies by model, I tend to lean towards bluetooth because the aux jack on my 5x is shit.

    the 5X, unfortunately, ended up being kind of a lemon of a phone. so many software and hardware issues with that thing. Kind of sad actually.

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  • a5ehrena5ehren AtlantaRegistered User regular
    The Nokia 7+ looks like a hell of a mid-range device if the price is right. SD660 is a pretty decent CPU, Android One, etc.

    I probably won't get one because it would just be a side-grade performance wise from my Pixel XL, but hopefully it does well and gets a follow-up next year.

  • VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    Sunday I lost my S7 so my wife gets to get a new phone while I take her S7. She decided on a LG G6 on Monday. Wednesday morning she decided she didn't like it and was going to return it after work.

    Shortly after that it fell out of her pocket while crouching down, hit the floor, and the screen shattered. (Our S7's have both fallen from much greater heights multiple times without even a scratch on the screen, even unprotected without a case or screen protectors)

    Return isn't possible now, and she is not happy about it. How much would a screen replacement be, and could we even get one that was a bit sturdier than the piece of shit screen it has from the factory?

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