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[Stellaris] - Paradox does space strategy - Le Guin, Megacorps - DECEMBER 6th

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    Foefaller wrote: »
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    I've gotten to the point where I can conquer an opponent, go into the extreme negative resources, and still eventually recover. But it's not fun. Planets take too much damn work. Recovering from winning a war takes more effort than winning the war.

    Also I am not sure why, but the empire I just ate... all their planets had like twice the population they could handle with their housing. I think the only thing that saved me was having a mostly empty First League Planet that can handle hundreds of extra people.

    Housing's effectiveness goes down with devastation, I thought?

    Yes it does.

    You need to stop bombing their planets so much and go in with a bigger assault force. That will make sure planets you conquer can bounce back quicker.

    or bombthier planets to ash and take the steal pop perk

  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    You think that would be "helped" by, you know, how many people were killed in the process of the bombing.

    Stellaris: where everything sounds awful.

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  • MillMill Registered User regular
    Trying doing some research on this earlier because it was really bugging me.

    How the gene trait formula works is either bugged or the devs should have given it a better tool tip to explain how it works, if it isn't.

    I figured I'd create a hive mind devouring race of dwarfs and start them off with Industrious, Intelligent, Natural Engineers, Sedentary & Nonadaptive. Then grab the engineered evolution perk and do targeted gene expression, so I could I could drop the nonadaptive and sedentary traits and have even more points to play with, but it looks like the game considers removing a negative trait as spending gene trait points. For example if I drop sedentary my total points with the perk and the research will drop to 4 and if I remove nonadaptive it drops 3. Seems like this is bugged to me since I'm dropping negative traits that should refund me points. If this is working as intended, then they did a piss poor drop of stipulating that with new race creating screen because that would behoove me to not pick up negative traits if I wanted to see how crazy I could make things, but this seems like a bug.

  • MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    I'm working on a Xenophobe game to get the 'wipe out all other species' achievement.

    But conquering is freaking exhausting. Every planet I take requires months of 'repair time' to get things back in order. Is there a way I can just wipe a planet clean and colonize it from scratch or something.

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  • BasilBasil Registered User regular
    edited January 15
    If you're not either glasssing the planet or cleansing it with virus and goo bombs, what are you doing with your galactic empire?

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  • MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    Basil wrote: »
    If you're not either glasssing the planet or cleansing it with virus and goo bombs, what are you doing with your galactic empire?

    Trying to get the resources to research those things. In the meantime, exhaustion.

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  • BasilBasil Registered User regular
    edited January 15
    I miss the Sword of the Stars sliding scale of diplomatic war crimes.

    First contact was typically made with nukes, slave barges, or both if your neighbor was the skaven.

    Any which way you could expect millions of sapients dead and delightfully low property values for go getting colonists.

    Now I'm tempted to play more Distant Worlds. It has been a while since I last subjugated some random insectoid species and turned their homeworld into a zoo as revenge for whichever great war some other insectoid species started once.

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  • FoefallerFoefaller Registered User regular
    Mill wrote: »
    Trying doing some research on this earlier because it was really bugging me.

    How the gene trait formula works is either bugged or the devs should have given it a better tool tip to explain how it works, if it isn't.

    I figured I'd create a hive mind devouring race of dwarfs and start them off with Industrious, Intelligent, Natural Engineers, Sedentary & Nonadaptive. Then grab the engineered evolution perk and do targeted gene expression, so I could I could drop the nonadaptive and sedentary traits and have even more points to play with, but it looks like the game considers removing a negative trait as spending gene trait points. For example if I drop sedentary my total points with the perk and the research will drop to 4 and if I remove nonadaptive it drops 3. Seems like this is bugged to me since I'm dropping negative traits that should refund me points. If this is working as intended, then they did a piss poor drop of stipulating that with new race creating screen because that would behoove me to not pick up negative traits if I wanted to see how crazy I could make things, but this seems like a bug.

    This is WAD, removing neg. traits will cost gene points.

    This is because those negative traits gave you more trait points in the first place; Adding Sedentary gave you 1 extra point, and nonadaptive gave you 2, so removing those traits takes away the extra points they gave you.

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  • MillMill Registered User regular
    Yeah, I just realized I had a brain fart there.

    Really wish the gene perk opened up another gene trait slot. I'll willing to keep the negative traits, if I can grab a few other things. I'm also trying to make sure I get the whole gene thing in order just in case I find the anomaly that gives me a free gene trait, since I'll liable to put a scientist on it before I'm ready to snag it.

  • FoefallerFoefaller Registered User regular
    Mill wrote: »
    Yeah, I just realized I had a brain fart there.

    Really wish the gene perk opened up another gene trait slot. I'll willing to keep the negative traits, if I can grab a few other things. I'm also trying to make sure I get the whole gene thing in order just in case I find the anomaly that gives me a free gene trait, since I'll liable to put a scientist on it before I'm ready to snag it.

    Hybrids from the new Xeno Compatibility perk have an extra trait slot. And it seems (though it might be a bug/UI thing) that you can gene mod the parent species to the hybrids

    Of course, getting all the many, many, many constantly spawning sub-species to have the same traits is an... effort, to say the least.

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  • WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    Foefaller wrote: »
    Mill wrote: »
    Yeah, I just realized I had a brain fart there.

    Really wish the gene perk opened up another gene trait slot. I'll willing to keep the negative traits, if I can grab a few other things. I'm also trying to make sure I get the whole gene thing in order just in case I find the anomaly that gives me a free gene trait, since I'll liable to put a scientist on it before I'm ready to snag it.

    Hybrids from the new Xeno Compatibility perk have an extra trait slot. And it seems (though it might be a bug/UI thing) that you can gene mod the parent species to the hybrids

    Of course, getting all the many, many, many constantly spawning sub-species to have the same traits is an... effort, to say the least.

    True, but I'd also argue that trying to make every species in your Empire exactly the same as every other species in your Empire goes against the very spirit of Xeno-Compatibility, so you shouldn't be trying to anyway.

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited January 16
    Has anyone tried this AI mod?

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  • RhahRhah Registered User regular
    I was going to try the Glavius mod finally but forgot it disabled achievements and think I am going to collect a few of them first. Plus not like I am a master and dominating the AIs without the mod yet.

  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    I've been using the AI mod but you need to be kind of cautious about it. In the week or two after xmas he broke everyone's game on at least 3 different occasions with his 'rolling beta'.

  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Never do what your enemy expects you to do! Registered User regular
    edited January 17
    https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/stellaris-fake-dev-diary-138-dontes-inferno.1146295/

    No Dev Diary or Dev Clash this week due to patch work being a bigger priority. Instead they posted an.. executive diary?
    Welcome, to the new (Fake) Dev Diary, Donte's Inferno!

    As you may or may not have heard, today's dev clash was postponed in favor of allowing the development team (the majority of the participants), to focus their time on the current work-in-progress patch.

    We pride ourselves here at Paradox on having a bit of fun with what we do, and the streams are a large part of that, not only are they great for promoting our games and engaging with the players, but they are short moments of light relief form the normal tasks and duties of the staff. However, it is important for us to keep in mind that we're here to make great games, so sometimes we end up in situations like today where we needed to team to focus on the development of the patch, rather than participate in the stream. On top of this, Daniel has also had to focus his attention on the patch, rather than write you a dev diary, so here I am as a quick and dirty stand in!

    These things happen, it's game development, it rarely goes according to plan, but it's still good fun at the end of the day.

    As a quick introduction for anyone who doesn't remember the last time I did one of these, my name is Bevan, aka Dnote, and I'm a Product Segment Owner. Very fancy title, but essentially, I'm part of the Product Management team, responsible for the "business case" of a game, bringing together the various disciplines involved and ensuring that everyone is working towards the same goal. This is usually broken down into two parts, Production (they make games), and Marketing (they talk about and sell games). In other companies, I'm the suit in the background controlling the money and making all the decisions you players usually hate!

    On top of this though, I'm also responsible for the strategy games part of our portfolio of games. This means every strategy game that Paradox develops and publishes is my responsibility to some extent. I'm also responsible for growing that part of the portfolio, so I get a very large say in what games we make next. It's always fun to work with the talented creative leads we have and at other studios to come up with new ideas and opporunities, then do some revenue forecasts and cost estimates to determine if we can actually make it work or not.. so far we've been pretty lucky with that.

    So, I want to take this opportunity to talk a little bit about where we are at and where we are headed. This isn't strictly a Stellaris dev diary, as I like to think I'm smart enough to leave the actual development of the game to the specialists in that area. Daniel, nor Martin before him, has come to me with an idea that was too crazy to do, so I feel a little confident in leaving them to it (though I still complain about how expensive it is to do everything).

    Where we are at right now is pretty good, we have Europa Universalis 4, Crusader Kings 2, Hearts of Iron 4, Stellaris and Battletech, in what we call a live state. They are launched and have active ongoing development, focused on a mixture of free updates and DLC. The cadence and types of updates and DLC are things that are determined by the individual teams, but they all seem to have found a healthy approach that works for them and the players of those games.

    Going forward, we do have more games in development, we break this down in various ways but out of those that we've announced, we have Imperator: Rome from PDS, Age of Wonders: Planetfall from Triumph and Stellaris Console from Tantalus. Whilst technically Stellaris Console isn't a new game, we do have a different development team on it, so we treat it as it's own thing. And I'm pretty sure this isn't a secret (I don't stay up to date on everything), but these three are all planned to come out this year too.

    On top of this, we have other strategy games in development as well, both at our internal studios and at external studios, which we aren't ready to talk about. Suffice to say we're pretty confident you'll enjoy them and I don't know the exact timing of things but you'll probably want to make sure you attend or tune into PDXCon later this year. Our road map forward is solid and builds on the expertise we already have, with a focus towards delivering the types of games we know you, our current players, enjoy.

    Then there is the theoretical part of the portfolio, which is the fun part for me. What are we going to do beyond that!

    At this point, we don't really know (much to the annoyance of Management and Acquisitions). It can be quite hard for us, or anyone in this industry to identify new opportunities, as very few companies publish data about their games and the audiences (people that buy and play them). We need to find our own ways to figure this out, through a mixture of market research, player engagement (we do talk with you every now and then) and gut feeling.

    So my question to you, is what would you like to see?

    Now, I know you're going to say the usual things, but what I'm really curious about is the unusual things. What features in strategy games are important to you, what features in other games would like to see come to strategy games? Maybe you would like to see something that brings epic large scale wars to life, with tactical battles (imagine control the Khan's horde as it rampages across Europe), or a game where you unite the HRE but each of the major dynasties are fleshed out with personalities and story arcs beyond normal procedural content, or something else entirely?

    Every year we look at what is coming next, its an ever updating plan and right now, in this moment, we're looking for something special, something that really stands out from the crowd.

    Anyways, not a proper dev diary, and not really Stellaris focused, but Daniel and Jamie will be back soon with more info on the patch and the dev clash will resume next week if all goes well with it.

    I also wouldn't mind hearing about where you would like Stellaris to go? We've made some pretty big changes to the game over the last 18 months, but what would you like to see added to it, flesh out, or changed?

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  • MortiousMortious The Nightmare Begins Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    He sure says fun a lot.

    Move to New Zealand
    It’s not a very important country most of the time
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  • MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    So I was running the Commonwealth of Man to do a 'wipe out all the xenos' run but taking over planets and managing them is just... exhausting. It takes so long, and each planet requires so much babysitting. Although once you have things running well enough the problems that arise from new planets is offset by massive income.

    So I made a Fanatic Purifiers race of cat people and I'm going to just glass the galaxy. I can always terraform stuff after.

    Maybe I can go back to my Commonwealth game if they fix the AI so that sector managers can do stuff on their own. Right now they don't seem to.

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  • ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular

    Noice.
    * Fanatic Purifiers can no longer draw the Uplifting or Xenomorph Armies techs. Devouring Swarms still can, because sapience enhances the flavour of your food
    * Fixed Tomb Worlds created by the Worm not having any planetary districts at all, as harsh and brutal and heavy metal awesome as that was
    * Fixed literally unplayable typos and grammatical/formatting errors

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  • MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    Stuff I particularly like from this.
    * Fixed so that newly promoted pops can be instantly demoted if fired within a year of promotion. This should help with cases of pops abandoning basic resource production jobs to take on more specialist roles when the buildings that provide them are activated, crippling your economy
    * Changed the size of all sectors to be 3 hyperlane jumps

    Still am curious about sector management. Is that... working... right now? Larger sectors will help, but I would really like to delegate some planet management work. It's annoying.

    Fanatic Purifiers run is going really well. I dunno if I just got lucky with tech or what, but managed to get my initial space claimed, and defensive stations on all my borders. Basically right after that, all my neighbors got pissy. Their fleets were weaker than my stations though, so I could focus on taking territory.

    Since purifiers don't need to claim systems to take them, I just washed over my enemies after their initial assaults, taking WIDE swaths of turf from them. Then let them end at status quo just in time for the NEXT neighbor to get angry and declare war on me, and do the same thing to them.

    I am not even bothering to claim enemy planets right now. I am just taking their non-planet systems and leaving their worlds cut off from each other. I can go back and clean those up later.

    I also just got Fen Habbanis so moving all my alloy and consumer goods production to that. My homeworld is slowly being converted to a massive research hub.

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  • CampyCampy Registered User regular
    No mention of AI/NPC fixes :(

  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Never do what your enemy expects you to do! Registered User regular
    Campy wrote: »
    No mention of AI/NPC fixes :(

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    # AI
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    * AI now properly prioritizes starbase types it has too few of; the prime one being a shipyard
    * Fixed it so AI can now attempt to counter piracy even when at war
    * Made AI a lot less likely to split up its fleets in to portions so small, it then calculates it lacks sufficient strength, and will not attack when at war
    * Lowered the threshold for the AI deciding whether or not to attack, so it shouldn't resort to a Fabian strategy of non-engagement in war
    * Fixed some AI weights for population control (thanks for the heads-up Glavius, you're rad)
    * Fixed AI not repairing ruined buildings when it had the resources to do so
    * AI will now actually follow through on its well-intentioned desire to upgrade buildings
    * Tweaked alloy budget for fallen empires to better match their needs
    * Stopped the AI from spamming redundant colony ships
    * Fixed Gestalt empires not building colony ships
    * Tweaked budgeting to make the AI less reticent about hiring leaders

  • CampyCampy Registered User regular
    Campy wrote: »
    No mention of AI/NPC fixes :(

    ?
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    # AI
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    * AI now properly prioritizes starbase types it has too few of; the prime one being a shipyard
    * Fixed it so AI can now attempt to counter piracy even when at war
    * Made AI a lot less likely to split up its fleets in to portions so small, it then calculates it lacks sufficient strength, and will not attack when at war
    * Lowered the threshold for the AI deciding whether or not to attack, so it shouldn't resort to a Fabian strategy of non-engagement in war
    * Fixed some AI weights for population control (thanks for the heads-up Glavius, you're rad)
    * Fixed AI not repairing ruined buildings when it had the resources to do so
    * AI will now actually follow through on its well-intentioned desire to upgrade buildings
    * Tweaked alloy budget for fallen empires to better match their needs
    * Stopped the AI from spamming redundant colony ships
    * Fixed Gestalt empires not building colony ships
    * Tweaked budgeting to make the AI less reticent about hiring leaders

    Welp. Must be time to get my eyes checked!

    Elvenshae
  • FoefallerFoefaller Registered User regular
    edited January 18
    Campy wrote: »
    No mention of AI/NPC fixes :(

    That's in the 2.2.4 beta
    * AI now properly prioritizes starbase types it has too few of; the prime one being a shipyard
    * Fixed it so AI can now attempt to counter piracy even when at war
    * Made AI a lot less likely to split up its fleets in to portions so small, it then calculates it lacks sufficient strength, and will not attack when at war
    * Lowered the threshold for the AI deciding whether or not to attack, so it shouldn't resort to a Fabian strategy of non-engagement in war
    * Fixed some AI weights for population control (thanks for the heads-up Glavius, you're rad)
    * Fixed AI not repairing ruined buildings when it had the resources to do so
    * AI will now actually follow through on its well-intentioned desire to upgrade buildings
    * Tweaked alloy budget for fallen empires to better match their needs
    * Stopped the AI from spamming redundant colony ships
    * Fixed Gestalt empires not building colony ships
    * Tweaked budgeting to make the AI less reticent about hiring leaders

    If the upgrade an repair building bugs are truely fixed, that's huge, as they were the major reason the AI started to lag after the early game.

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  • MillMill Registered User regular
    Glad to see they are trying to fix the whole issue where every pop that can will flee from agriculture to better paying jobs. I mean from a historical point of view, yeah it makes some sense if you have a society with a ton of freedom. Where it stops making sense, is when everyone opts to starve because these jobs are soo much better, while also ignoring that some people work agriculture because they like that line of work. It really falls apart with hives. It's also really not fun to manage around; especially, when you need to get a structure up for a specific resource. I'm surprised they don't have a formula or rule in place now that ensures that some level of the low end jobs stay manned. I mean you could do a playstyle setup where hive minds keep pretty much every where they are at, more strict non-hive minds have a small amount of movement and the more individualist societies see the most movement. Then again, as I said, it's really annoy micromanagement.

    No comment on AI changes. I'm still do my whole thing of run the game on an easy setup to get a feel for how I want to attempt certain things. Like how I want to build up my initial planets, how I build first setup of specialized planets and how to shift over existing planets (kind of arriving on the idea that the best setup might be to shift the first 2-3 planets into a mining-agriculture setup and phase out the energy stuff. Probably not the most efficient use because pure mining or farming frees up another building slot, but feels like it would require more babysitting that I'm willing to do make sure amenities, housing and jobs are in the red when I'm done). Also figuring out when limited building (aka only one per planet) I always want to build and which ones should only be used for specialized worlds. Plus, it's fun to see how silly I can make something and experience the anomalies.

    At some point, I'll have to try this with a non-have mind since I'll have to figure out how to manage thing when I don't have access to hive worlds and have to deal with consumer goods, while also not having the option to stop pop growth on planets. Also need to give machine empires spin. I figure once I get more comfortable with the underlining mechanics and want a challenge, I'll make things harder.

    Also trying to figure out, assuming it didn't get broken, how to move pops to a specific planet. Right now it only gives me the option to send them to my original world. I had a game of hive shroom people where I was experimenting wit the idea of having a two low tiles worlds, that were built to generate pops faster than my specialized worlds, which I would move over to those worlds to fill them out faster. Currently have that on hold because I wanted to try something with a tiny galaxy and that game drew the gray goo scenario. Actually destroyed the factory fairly quickly, but didn't save because I want to open the gate and let the gray tempest rampage through the parts of the galaxy I don't control.

  • President RexPresident Rex Registered User regular
    I am getting ton of numismatic visualization spam from some caravanners. Every few months they ask if I want to see their wares and their wares are offering me an edict I already bought (because after the first 20 times they offered it, I figured maybe it'd go away if I just bought it).

    I said No the next 40 times, but they just kept coming back. I'm not going to say No the next 40 because I've just turned the game off.

  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Never do what your enemy expects you to do! Registered User regular
    Just encountered something weird.

    Insteller Assembly Site has a consumer goods upkeep. Even if you're playing a race that doesn't use consumer goods. Kinda weird.

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  • m!ttensm!ttens Registered User regular
    I am getting ton of numismatic visualization spam from some caravanners. Every few months they ask if I want to see their wares and their wares are offering me an edict I already bought (because after the first 20 times they offered it, I figured maybe it'd go away if I just bought it).

    I said No the next 40 times, but they just kept coming back. I'm not going to say No the next 40 because I've just turned the game off.

    This happens when the caravaneers cannot find a safe exit to your system (usually a space amoeba wandering into a chokepoint) and the game keeps firing off the offer since I'm guessing it's programmed to offer every 12 months or something.

  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    Nice thing

    you can now restrict which race grows on a planet on 2.2.4

    if you force one it gets a growth speed penalty though

    Elvenshae
  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    Can confirm in 2.2.4 they still don't repair buildings

  • MillMill Registered User regular
    So thoughts on the espionage, since they mentioned they were looking into. I hope they come up with some reasonable good because it would make devouring swarm a little more interesting to play as and against. Don't get me wrong, I love the concept behind devouring swarm, but the diplomatic side it's very one dimensional (unless you have to end a war without fulling absorbing the opposing side, but then the whole open borders things makes no fucking sense with devouring swarms). It's pretty much either you have the resources to crush the swarm or you don't, likewise the swarm either can crush an obstacle or it doesn't. Until one of those points gets hit, both sides are just building up for the confrontation.

    As for population management. Maybe I missing something, but moving populations around is really tedious because as far as I can tell, it's send populations out from the home world to the locations you want to buff and then feed in population to the home world. Maybe that's intended to discourage the tactic, but if I'm not missing anything and they don't care to put restraints on population moving (outside of energy cost), well it's really half assed.

  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Never do what your enemy expects you to do! Registered User regular
    Alpha Centauri had decent espionage. You could try to gain tactical information, steal tech, steal energy credits, sabotage facilities, sabotage research by assassinating scientists, cause riots, commit bioweapon atrocities or even engage mind control probes if you have the subsequent special project.

    Best of all, if you were good enough, you could try and make it look like a third faction was responsible for your crimes. It was great. Alpha Centauri is a great game. I'd actually be happy if they lift the diplomacy and espionage systems straight from that game.

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  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    One thing I'd really like in diplomacy is a way to 'buy' open borders from empires, if only for a limited time. At least from the ones that don't really, really hate you.

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  • CaedwyrCaedwyr Registered User regular
    Purchasing right of passage for a specific fleet with a start and end point. Or purchasing right of passage for unlimited fleets through a specific corridor.

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  • WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    Caedwyr wrote: »
    Purchasing right of passage for a specific fleet with a start and end point. Or purchasing right of passage for unlimited fleets through a specific corridor.

    If they ever fix up Sectors, you could buy passage through the specific Sectors you want. That might work.

  • a5ehrena5ehren AtlantaRegistered User regular
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    Stuff I particularly like from this.
    * Fixed so that newly promoted pops can be instantly demoted if fired within a year of promotion. This should help with cases of pops abandoning basic resource production jobs to take on more specialist roles when the buildings that provide them are activated, crippling your economy
    * Changed the size of all sectors to be 3 hyperlane jumps

    Still am curious about sector management. Is that... working... right now? Larger sectors will help, but I would really like to delegate some planet management work. It's annoying.

    Fanatic Purifiers run is going really well. I dunno if I just got lucky with tech or what, but managed to get my initial space claimed, and defensive stations on all my borders. Basically right after that, all my neighbors got pissy. Their fleets were weaker than my stations though, so I could focus on taking territory.

    Since purifiers don't need to claim systems to take them, I just washed over my enemies after their initial assaults, taking WIDE swaths of turf from them. Then let them end at status quo just in time for the NEXT neighbor to get angry and declare war on me, and do the same thing to them.

    I am not even bothering to claim enemy planets right now. I am just taking their non-planet systems and leaving their worlds cut off from each other. I can go back and clean those up later.

    I also just got Fen Habbanis so moving all my alloy and consumer goods production to that. My homeworld is slowly being converted to a massive research hub.

    The bigger sectors only apply to new games, so I can't tell yet. I would guess the sector AI gets the same fixes as the opponent AI, so maybe it will get better at some point.

  • MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    a5ehren wrote: »
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    Stuff I particularly like from this.
    * Fixed so that newly promoted pops can be instantly demoted if fired within a year of promotion. This should help with cases of pops abandoning basic resource production jobs to take on more specialist roles when the buildings that provide them are activated, crippling your economy
    * Changed the size of all sectors to be 3 hyperlane jumps

    Still am curious about sector management. Is that... working... right now? Larger sectors will help, but I would really like to delegate some planet management work. It's annoying.

    Fanatic Purifiers run is going really well. I dunno if I just got lucky with tech or what, but managed to get my initial space claimed, and defensive stations on all my borders. Basically right after that, all my neighbors got pissy. Their fleets were weaker than my stations though, so I could focus on taking territory.

    Since purifiers don't need to claim systems to take them, I just washed over my enemies after their initial assaults, taking WIDE swaths of turf from them. Then let them end at status quo just in time for the NEXT neighbor to get angry and declare war on me, and do the same thing to them.

    I am not even bothering to claim enemy planets right now. I am just taking their non-planet systems and leaving their worlds cut off from each other. I can go back and clean those up later.

    I also just got Fen Habbanis so moving all my alloy and consumer goods production to that. My homeworld is slowly being converted to a massive research hub.

    The bigger sectors only apply to new games, so I can't tell yet. I would guess the sector AI gets the same fixes as the opponent AI, so maybe it will get better at some point.

    I don't want to end my current run as I already have taken like 25% of the galaxy and there doesn't seem to be anything that can stop me. I'll have to see next run.

    At this point planet managing has become so fiddly I am just glassing enemy worlds, terraforming them back, and then leaving them uncolonized until I need more basic resources. At a certain point they are not worth the micromanagement when I am already effectively unstoppable.

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  • a5ehrena5ehren AtlantaRegistered User regular
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    a5ehren wrote: »
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    Stuff I particularly like from this.
    * Fixed so that newly promoted pops can be instantly demoted if fired within a year of promotion. This should help with cases of pops abandoning basic resource production jobs to take on more specialist roles when the buildings that provide them are activated, crippling your economy
    * Changed the size of all sectors to be 3 hyperlane jumps

    Still am curious about sector management. Is that... working... right now? Larger sectors will help, but I would really like to delegate some planet management work. It's annoying.

    Fanatic Purifiers run is going really well. I dunno if I just got lucky with tech or what, but managed to get my initial space claimed, and defensive stations on all my borders. Basically right after that, all my neighbors got pissy. Their fleets were weaker than my stations though, so I could focus on taking territory.

    Since purifiers don't need to claim systems to take them, I just washed over my enemies after their initial assaults, taking WIDE swaths of turf from them. Then let them end at status quo just in time for the NEXT neighbor to get angry and declare war on me, and do the same thing to them.

    I am not even bothering to claim enemy planets right now. I am just taking their non-planet systems and leaving their worlds cut off from each other. I can go back and clean those up later.

    I also just got Fen Habbanis so moving all my alloy and consumer goods production to that. My homeworld is slowly being converted to a massive research hub.

    The bigger sectors only apply to new games, so I can't tell yet. I would guess the sector AI gets the same fixes as the opponent AI, so maybe it will get better at some point.

    I don't want to end my current run as I already have taken like 25% of the galaxy and there doesn't seem to be anything that can stop me. I'll have to see next run.

    At this point planet managing has become so fiddly I am just glassing enemy worlds, terraforming them back, and then leaving them uncolonized until I need more basic resources. At a certain point they are not worth the micromanagement when I am already effectively unstoppable.

    Yeah they started with a goal of reducing micro, and managed to not do that at all. Once the sector ai is passable I think it will be better.

  • MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    a5ehren wrote: »
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    a5ehren wrote: »
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    Stuff I particularly like from this.
    * Fixed so that newly promoted pops can be instantly demoted if fired within a year of promotion. This should help with cases of pops abandoning basic resource production jobs to take on more specialist roles when the buildings that provide them are activated, crippling your economy
    * Changed the size of all sectors to be 3 hyperlane jumps

    Still am curious about sector management. Is that... working... right now? Larger sectors will help, but I would really like to delegate some planet management work. It's annoying.

    Fanatic Purifiers run is going really well. I dunno if I just got lucky with tech or what, but managed to get my initial space claimed, and defensive stations on all my borders. Basically right after that, all my neighbors got pissy. Their fleets were weaker than my stations though, so I could focus on taking territory.

    Since purifiers don't need to claim systems to take them, I just washed over my enemies after their initial assaults, taking WIDE swaths of turf from them. Then let them end at status quo just in time for the NEXT neighbor to get angry and declare war on me, and do the same thing to them.

    I am not even bothering to claim enemy planets right now. I am just taking their non-planet systems and leaving their worlds cut off from each other. I can go back and clean those up later.

    I also just got Fen Habbanis so moving all my alloy and consumer goods production to that. My homeworld is slowly being converted to a massive research hub.

    The bigger sectors only apply to new games, so I can't tell yet. I would guess the sector AI gets the same fixes as the opponent AI, so maybe it will get better at some point.

    I don't want to end my current run as I already have taken like 25% of the galaxy and there doesn't seem to be anything that can stop me. I'll have to see next run.

    At this point planet managing has become so fiddly I am just glassing enemy worlds, terraforming them back, and then leaving them uncolonized until I need more basic resources. At a certain point they are not worth the micromanagement when I am already effectively unstoppable.

    Yeah they started with a goal of reducing micro, and managed to not do that at all. Once the sector ai is passable I think it will be better.

    They went like top speed the other direction. I am super psyched for when they fix it.

    In the meantime, Purifiers so I don't need to deal with it.

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  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    While I don't consider myself a micromanager generally, tbh I love the new sector changes, in that it basically allows me to pretend sectors don't exist. I hated giving planets to sectors in the old versions. When I would get habitats, I would look for systems with 8+ planets so I could fit as many worlds as possible into my limited number of core systems. I also like how planets keep developing for a long time now, and it's not just 'fill all the tiles then you're done' like previously.

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