So trying Kain and his Chain against the A+ Barbariccia (yes I am slow and lazy), I am slightly perplexed as to how one gets up and running. LS it up? Start with MM or something? LS to chain seemed so damn slow...
Chains can take the place of a boostga or faithga, so you can give him Mako Might and RW Wall.
Oooooooh CAN they now? I did not even think of that. I'm currently MMing Rikku's USB and OK pUSB, but I could totally swap out Rikku for something, give someone Shell/Protect, and go from there.
Awesome!
Yea, as long as you have at least one supporting boostga or faithga, proper chain adds should let you cap out on damage around the 50-hit mark. Anything higher is wasted SB meter.
So what you're saying is that a basic 30/30 ATK/MAG should be enough to let a mixed team work if I'm using a chain?
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Ah, finally. The fourth Shell Dragon. now I'll be able to level it up and throw some inheritance at it.
the only comps i double buff are magic comps, since mages need a lot more juice to go. but mages also usually have +30mag on their ultras so that helps on that front. it's a big bonus of the two trance LMs i use in magicites so far because it helps get to the cap without any meter spent.
Yea, I'll bring two 30% faithgas even with a chain, though one is usually enough if the mage can en-element quickly enough (i.e. Terra). Physical can usually run off a single 30% or 50% and be okay since Lifesiphon speeds them up.
And I got him to ~25% at around a minute, but just couldn't seem to kill him fast enough...
I have Fujin OSB/BSB/SSB, but I'm not sure if she would be any more effective than Alph/Edge.
This is actually pretty close to my sub-30 team, albeit probably without some of my +wind stuff so you maybe can't hit that time. Here's what I bring:
Edge 99 (1 +wind gear) Raging Winds R3/Phantasm R5/Mako Might/LD/USB0
Fujin 99 (2 +wind gear) Raging Winds R3/Stitch in Time R1/Scholar's Boon/LD (BSB/SSB, mostly just use SSB repeatedly)
Alphinaud 99 (1 +wind gear) Bahamut R4/Meltdown R3/World Traveller/LD (BSB)
Y'shtola 99 Shellga/Curada/Gathering Storm/LD (BSB, wall)
Shelke 99 Entrust/Wrath/Dr. Mog/LD (BSB, but never used)
It's been a while, but I think this is the process:
Edge leads off with Eblan, does Raging Winds until it runs out and then Phantasm, re-ups last stand/haste as needed
Fujin leads off Stitch in Time, does raging winds, and her SSB whenever meter allows
Alphinaud leads off Meltdown (6* weakness builds meter faster), launches BSB when he can, then basically does CMD1 repeatedly, I think.
Y'shtola does wall then shellga (because Golem takes a bit to get going), casts Curada repeatedly until she has meter, then bursts.
Shelke feeds (I think) Alphinaud immediately, come to think of it, and then feeds Fujin the rest of the battle to force-feed those SSBs.
Raging Winds is piercing, with one +wind equipment, you probably shouldn't even need a buffer on whoever's casting. Fujin's OSB is probably a better "shove meter into" thing than her SSB, aside from a single cast to get enWind going.
You don't need to bring protectga, because since you'll be running a magic team, everyone should be in the back row - Golem's attacks aren't ranged, so that'll take the edge off, particularly with the pblink from edge.
e: This might be one of the ones I do YOLO and use Fabula Raider instead of wall for the sub-30, but you wouldn't have that quite yet
So, I used a somewhat ghetto version of this, and I got him way closer. I also wasted a couple Eblan Dopple's by casting them before Last Stand got procced.
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Yeah - I may have been assuming some stuff about what magicite you have, so I don't know how much of a difference my passives make. Might be the difference in making that work or not.
I do think you should be able to get a "two heal, two entrust, fujin SSB->OSB" thing working, regardless. I did effectively that for my first clear, but with a physical enWind/OSB combo on Luneth. Magic is better because you can just ignore his barrier/protect
Yeah, I’m not gonna bother figuring out 220 Edea. At-will Dispelga and Sleepga, has an interrupt, can refresh Protect and Shell nearly instantly, and by the end can take 3 turns before I can take one?
Yeah, I’m not gonna bother figuring out 220 Edea. At-will Dispelga and Sleepga, has an interrupt, can refresh Protect and Shell nearly instantly, and by the end can take 3 turns before I can take one?
Fuck off with that.
If you take a mage or ranged team, you never have to worry about sleep - only hits front row.
I already have Kraken sub-30s with Shantotto Chain, so I'm not in the market for the other Lightning Chain, and two of the other Discos are dupes. I'd mostly be fishing for Ice stuff while trying to dodge the Lightning stuff.
I'd be crazy to pull here, right? On the other hand, Tiamat is the only thing I can't beat right now, so what else am I going to spend Mythril on?
I already have Kraken sub-30s with Shantotto Chain, so I'm not in the market for the other Lightning Chain, and two of the other Discos are dupes. I'd mostly be fishing for Ice stuff while trying to dodge the Lightning stuff.
I'd be crazy to pull here, right? On the other hand, Tiamat is the only thing I can't beat right now, so what else am I going to spend Mythril on?
just don't. you are getting no value per your rankings out 4 of the 5 6*s. that's terrible. when I was chasing like a fucking idiot i still wanted 4 6*s and a 5*.
Think I'm gonna save my fest 11 pull for banner 5. I don't really need more Fire stuff, but I could use more solid Water options, it's the only other banner with two Chains on it, all of Yuffie's water stuff is fantastic, and Terra's AOSB would be (and this is just a guess) roughly 3 times more funner than her OSB has been.
Same. I've been experimenting with Ixion, and I'm sure I can get it with my current relics if I LD Dorgann and hone Shadow's stuff. So I don't need the Earth Chain. Meaning it's Cloud USB and Zack Chain (and other windy stuff) vs Terra's stuff and Yuffie Water Ninja God
Thing is, I like FFVI quite a bit, so my choice is clear. Even if I don't have the Wind Chain yet and already have the Fire and Water chains.
There are tons of items I want on banner 5 (all that fire and water boost armor! 6* fire boost and 6* water boost weapon!), but I know if I rolled on it I would pull dupe fire chain or dupe water chain, and the salt levels would be fatal.
There are tons of items I want on banner 5 (all that fire and water boost armor! 6* fire boost and 6* water boost weapon!), but I know if I rolled on it I would pull dupe fire chain or dupe water chain, and the salt levels would be fatal.
I too am facing the chance of dupe chains on that...
I already have Kraken sub-30s with Shantotto Chain, so I'm not in the market for the other Lightning Chain, and two of the other Discos are dupes. I'd mostly be fishing for Ice stuff while trying to dodge the Lightning stuff.
I'd be crazy to pull here, right? On the other hand, Tiamat is the only thing I can't beat right now, so what else am I going to spend Mythril on?
I chased like an idiot on that banner because I was 0/Everything.
It's not worth
Hell, one of your targets you can just BUY, STRAIGHT UP, in Squalls BSB2 in a bit.
that was a cruel thing you just did video game. very, very, very cruel. there was a half second of oh my god it's the chain or tgcid's usb everything is forgiven and then pure, unmitigated hatred.
that was a cruel thing you just did video game. very, very, very cruel. there was a half second of oh my god it's the chain or tgcid's usb everything is forgiven and then pure, unmitigated hatred.
This was me on banner one; RNG is a cruel mistress
So I’m deciding between the ffi and ffii gift package - I don’t have either of the OSB/BSB options, and both realms are low on synergy.
Is firion or warrior of light still good with those?
Between those two, I would urge you to pick FFI. Firion doesn't have access to any really strong Holy abilities outside of the soul breaks themselves. FFI's Warrior of Light, on the other hand, has access to all Knight skills, which include the powerful Holy attacks Guardbringer and Assault Saber.
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i wish i had gotten a 3* lol. i am eternally cursed to chase high tier buff soul breaks for all my mythril and then get 400 copies of them from lucky draws and 100 gems.
So... how does one generally make use of Bartz's USB alongside one of his elemental Auras? Entrust support, or just lots of Lifesiphon + Ace Striker?
not use his aura and just cast the spellblades. works best with a chain.
if you're going to use bsb+usb you need an entrust bot to pass him 2 meter on turn 3.
I see.
Hmm...
I'll have to see how much damage Tremoring Quadstrike does to Ixion without an aura. I don't have the Earth chain, but I do have Dorgann, for imperil Earth. If he can't get enough damage out in those circumstances, I'll have to consider Entrust support. I need to have Shelke stay on Arc duty, but maybe if I have Tyro give Bartz him some meter early on, it could work. I imagine he'd only have to activate the aura once. If he can do enough damage, I'll slap the Earth ninja blink combo onto Tyro and see where that takes me.
Water will be easier, since I do have a chain for that.
I'm intrigued by the prospect of using him for Fire, but I'm not sure how he compares to Locke and Refia. Experimentation is required, I think.
I just came out of an attempted Ixion run where his first and second unscripted turns were Aerospark, and in which he did Savage Aerospark 3 turns in a row. He's never been this fuck-you aggressive before.
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I fed a 99 4* magicite into a 3* Magicite, now that felt wrong.
Yea, I'll bring two 30% faithgas even with a chain, though one is usually enough if the mage can en-element quickly enough (i.e. Terra). Physical can usually run off a single 30% or 50% and be okay since Lifesiphon speeds them up.
So, I used a somewhat ghetto version of this, and I got him way closer. I also wasted a couple Eblan Dopple's by casting them before Last Stand got procced.
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I do think you should be able to get a "two heal, two entrust, fujin SSB->OSB" thing working, regardless. I did effectively that for my first clear, but with a physical enWind/OSB combo on Luneth. Magic is better because you can just ignore his barrier/protect
Fuck off with that.
She's pretty weak if you just huck a billion dps at her face.
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If you take a mage or ranged team, you never have to worry about sleep - only hits front row.
Banner 2
Love: Squall AOSB, BSB2, Glint
Like: Squall LMR, Rinoa BSB2
Okay, I guess: Lightning AOSB, LMR
Redundant/Unwanted: Kain CSB, BSB, LMR
Dupe: Lightning USB, BSB2, Glint, Rinoa CSB
I already have Kraken sub-30s with Shantotto Chain, so I'm not in the market for the other Lightning Chain, and two of the other Discos are dupes. I'd mostly be fishing for Ice stuff while trying to dodge the Lightning stuff.
I'd be crazy to pull here, right? On the other hand, Tiamat is the only thing I can't beat right now, so what else am I going to spend Mythril on?
just don't. you are getting no value per your rankings out 4 of the 5 6*s. that's terrible. when I was chasing like a fucking idiot i still wanted 4 6*s and a 5*.
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Thing is, I like FFVI quite a bit, so my choice is clear. Even if I don't have the Wind Chain yet and already have the Fire and Water chains.
I haven't found a need for it, but...you know...earth chain.
I too am facing the chance of dupe chains on that...
I chased like an idiot on that banner because I was 0/Everything.
It's not worth
Hell, one of your targets you can just BUY, STRAIGHT UP, in Squalls BSB2 in a bit.
2/11!
Chicken knife! (I’ve failed to get this on two banners)
Ingus LMR.
I’m stoked! It’s not the chain but I pulled several copies of Bartz LMR before, so I can try to make this work!
dupe onion pusb.
that was a cruel thing you just did video game. very, very, very cruel. there was a half second of oh my god it's the chain or tgcid's usb everything is forgiven and then pure, unmitigated hatred.
This was me on banner one; RNG is a cruel mistress
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[5e] Dural Melairkyn - AC 18 | HP 40 | Melee +5/1d8+3 | Spell +4/DC 12
Alt: gladio OSB
This suuuuucks.
OK pUSB continues to elude. Chicken knife continues to elude. Cid USB continues to elude.
.....I better stop thinking about it before I take an unplanned and unwise second pull.
Lightning AOSB hasn't recurred yet in JP
At least there's a paid 33 pull (lol) for a CSB select in 3 months
1 roll: 3/11, 1 disco.
Bartz BSBE
Ingus BSB2
Bartz USB!!!
Worth it.
Is firion or warrior of light still good with those?
Between those two, I would urge you to pick FFI. Firion doesn't have access to any really strong Holy abilities outside of the soul breaks themselves. FFI's Warrior of Light, on the other hand, has access to all Knight skills, which include the powerful Holy attacks Guardbringer and Assault Saber.
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There's that one that got delayed to April, which introduces Thief (FFI).
I guess the upcoming New Torments, too.
asides from that, I suppose that WOL is just a powerful Holy character.
i have 7 shouts.
50 mythril, 2/11: Tifa LMR2, Ingus Chain
Ixion, you are gonna get served.
Data for posterity:
27/226 lifetime
8/66 this batch
9/65 last batch (0.1 items below EV, which is pretty much exactly expected return, though quite a few duds even on my hits)
Note to self: No whining, Rikku USB, never forget. Also Cloud BSB2, Mustadio USB, Water Chain (dupe).
not use his aura and just cast the spellblades. works best with a chain.
if you're going to use bsb+usb you need an entrust bot to pass him 2 meter on turn 3.
I see.
Hmm...
I'll have to see how much damage Tremoring Quadstrike does to Ixion without an aura. I don't have the Earth chain, but I do have Dorgann, for imperil Earth. If he can't get enough damage out in those circumstances, I'll have to consider Entrust support. I need to have Shelke stay on Arc duty, but maybe if I have Tyro give Bartz him some meter early on, it could work. I imagine he'd only have to activate the aura once. If he can do enough damage, I'll slap the Earth ninja blink combo onto Tyro and see where that takes me.
Water will be easier, since I do have a chain for that.
I'm intrigued by the prospect of using him for Fire, but I'm not sure how he compares to Locke and Refia. Experimentation is required, I think.
I just came out of an attempted Ixion run where his first and second unscripted turns were Aerospark, and in which he did Savage Aerospark 3 turns in a row. He's never been this fuck-you aggressive before.
Presented without comment.
Edit: oh my god it just happened again, why universe.
Damn near exactly what I wanted from this pull. Thank you, game.