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  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    I dont know why Far Cry 5 is the game that broke the camel's back for me here, but there it is

    I've got zero chill about it and I am beyond upset something like that was produced and released

    I know a lot of good people probably worked on it but my feelings towards Ubi and the dev leaders are, at the moment, vehemently negative

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  • EtchwartsEtchwarts Eyes Up Registered User regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    I could see it as a compelling ending to like, a first or second act

    As a third act ending it is very bad though

    Yeah I'm into it if the game ends up...doing something with it, I guess

    As it is it's just "WHOA HEY ISN'T THIS SHOCKING"

  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
  • HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    There is like a director of writing at Ubisoft who must be stopped, the word supervisor needs to go

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  • AistanAistan Tiny Bat Registered User regular
    I dunno why people keep saying "just like every other far cry then" to this stuff about 5.

    Am I just nuts, because I don't remember anything of this nature in 4? There was barely any wacky story in that at all. Pagan Min was exuberant and that was pretty much it.

    That's why 5 feels like such a step back for me. Blood Dragon and Primal are where the dumb jokes went, the next numbered one was supposed to continue from where 4 took us.

  • Mx. QuillMx. Quill I now prefer "Myr. Quill", actually... {They/Them}Registered User regular
    I kinda feel like Ubisoft's "we're a multiracial dev team of differentiating beliefs" message is getting to the point where they're using it as a shield for never taking an actual stance on some of the things their games are trying to address.

    You can say "fuck racists", Ubisoft.

  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    I kinda feel like Ubisoft's "we're a multiracial dev team of differentiating beliefs" message is getting to the point where they're using it as a shield for never taking an actual stance on some of the things their games are trying to address.

    You can say "fuck racists", Ubisoft.

    no because then racists won't buy their game

    they want the racist dollars

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  • Mx. QuillMx. Quill I now prefer "Myr. Quill", actually... {They/Them}Registered User regular
    edited March 2018
    I kinda feel like Ubisoft's "we're a multiracial dev team of differentiating beliefs" message is getting to the point where they're using it as a shield for never taking an actual stance on some of the things their games are trying to address.

    You can say "fuck racists", Ubisoft.

    no because then racists won't buy their game

    they want the racist dollars

    Then that basically punches a hole in their multiracial/differentiating beliefs stance, since they're trying to cater to everyone to make a profit instead of having morals.

    It never ceases to amaze me indie devs are willing to lose out on purchases from assholes more than giant Triple Aaaaay teams are, though I guess it's part of how messed up Triple Aaaaaay is where they need All Of The Money to not consider 5 million copies of Tomb Raider a "failure."

    Mx. Quill on
  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    edited March 2018
    well, of course

    they're a corporation

    prioritizing profit over everything else is what they're for

    Indie Winter on
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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    I mean, they're also a multiracial dev team of differentiating beliefs

    That just, incidentally, has nothing to do with the fact that they want racists to buy their games because their money still spends

  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    I kinda feel like Ubisoft's "we're a multiracial dev team of differentiating beliefs" message is getting to the point where they're using it as a shield for never taking an actual stance on some of the things their games are trying to address.

    You can say "fuck racists", Ubisoft.

    no because then racists won't buy their game

    they want the racist dollars

    Then that basically punches a hole in their multiracial/differentiating beliefs stance, since they're trying to cater to everyone to make a profit instead of having morals.

    that stance always only existed to not get sued

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  • OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    See they want gamers to buy their game and if they speak out against racists, then gamers won't buy their game and

    uh

    no no don't read any further into that, everything's fine

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  • UbikUbik oh pete, that's later. maybe we'll be dead by then Registered User regular
    end capitalism

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    "Lots of different people with different beliefs made these games" is essentially a toothless feel good statement from the word go, because those developers aren't the last say in how their games get made or sold, it's a fucking huge company

  • HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    I thought the two other recent Far Cries and Watchdogs 1 all had the same obnoxious embarrassing fuckin tone, there is a consistent vibe

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  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    Ubisoft's games have sort of a nihilistic quality thats only gotten more pronounced

    Some south park "both sides are bad actually" shit

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    At some point that statement comes from a place where people think about who is making games, and maybe they picture a dozen of so people; you've got a couple programmers, a couple art people, etc etc.

    And not literally thousands of people

  • OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    "Lots of different people with different beliefs made these games" is essentially a toothless feel good statement from the word go, because those developers aren't the last say in how their games get made or sold, it's a fucking huge company

    In fact most workplaces have rules in place saying you can't put your personal beliefs into your work

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  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    It is an extremely good bit on All Systems Goku that Dan has started saying "Frieza" correctly and Jeff has adopted his mispronunciation

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  • replacewythyreplacewythy Registered User regular
    There were developers from many backgrounds involved in making the game, black people, gay people, people who are in white supremacist death cults

  • ZxerolZxerol for the smaller pieces, my shovel wouldn't do so i took off my boot and used my shoeRegistered User regular
    I guess I'm a dumbass for initially believing that Ubisoft would have the extreme courage it takes to actually make white supremacists bad guys but fuck me right.

  • DiarmuidDiarmuid Amazing Meatball Registered User regular
    Jeff's Vegeta voice is my favourite thing

  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    There were developers from many backgrounds involved in making the game, black people, gay people, people who are in white supremacist death cults

    Look, when you employ as many people as Ubisoft Montreal, probably?

  • RehabRehab Registered User regular
    I thought the game might actually have something to say about religious extremism as well as racism, but if the game does indeed tiptoe around racism being bad it sure as hell isn't going to have any nerve when it comes to saying anything about religion.

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  • MorivethMoriveth BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWNRegistered User regular
    That’s a dang shame about FC5

    I probably wouldn’t be playing it anyway but yeah

    The dlc looked kinda goofy fun, aside from the Vietnam stuff

    I’d be okay with adapting Far Cry to more fantastical settings

  • OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    Ubisoft's games have sort of a nihilistic quality thats only gotten more pronounced

    Some south park "both sides are bad actually" shit

    Well they make South Park games so...

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Far Cry 3 onward is really fun gameplay and bad writing

    They're bad at serious stuff, they're bad at comedy, they're bad at trying to mix the two, it's just all bad except the part where you put bullets into people and/or bears

  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    Michael Mando is such a good actor that it tricked everyone into thinking Far Cry games are well-written

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Nah, he was fun but I mean one of the foremost complaints about Far Cry 3 was how the writing was incredibly fucking dumb

  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    Mr. G wrote: »
    Michael Mando is such a good actor that it tricked everyone into thinking Far Cry games are well-written

    He was so fucking good in 3

    One of the better performances I've seen in games

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  • PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    Glad to hear FarCry is still on its sub-Funny Games "Why are you so violent in this game that is built around and for violence?" bullshit

    Pooro, "Sub-funny games" is literally the most vicious insult I've ever fucking seen, god damn

    It's the most 19-year-old-who-just-discovered-Fight-Club-and-wants-to-make-you-really-think-man bullshit

    I got just zero patience for it

  • Moth 13Moth 13 Registered User regular
    All Systems Goku: I love how disappointed they are that Kai took out the "Mondo Cool" lines.

  • RehabRehab Registered User regular
    Mr. G wrote: »
    Michael Mando is such a good actor that it tricked everyone into thinking Far Cry games are well-written

    His character Nacho in Better Call Saul is really good and very well acted by him.

    I'm eager to see where he goes next season.

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  • ZxerolZxerol for the smaller pieces, my shovel wouldn't do so i took off my boot and used my shoeRegistered User regular
    edited March 2018
    FC1 was b-movie schlock complete with a mad scientist and bullshit mutants.
    2 was completely uninteresting and I actually don't remember a damn thing about the story.
    3 had one exceptional performance in a sea of utterly unlikable characters, to which the game promptly squanders about halfway through.
    Blood Dragon is intentional schlock that probably thinks it's more clever than it actually is.
    And I've never played any other of the games but I'm sure they're in good company.

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  • PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Nah, he was fun but I mean one of the foremost complaints about Far Cry 3 was how the writing was incredibly fucking dumb

    Any time a work starts extensively referencing Alice in Wonderland, it's time to buckle up for a ride to bullshit city

  • rhylithrhylith Death Rabbits HoustonRegistered User regular
    Rehab wrote: »
    Mr. G wrote: »
    Michael Mando is such a good actor that it tricked everyone into thinking Far Cry games are well-written

    His character Nacho in Better Call Saul is really good and very well acted by him.

    I'm eager to see where he goes next season.

    Oh shit I didn’t realize that was him.

    Yeah he does a very good job on BCS.

  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Nah, he was fun but I mean one of the foremost complaints about Far Cry 3 was how the writing was incredibly fucking dumb

    Any time a work starts extensively referencing Alice in Wonderland, it's time to buckle up for a ride to bullshit city

    don't even get me started on this "Through the Looking Glass" shit

    it's all about it!

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    I thought 4 was better about a few things than 3, though it's a low bar to clear, but the end of it is all so steeped in "every side in this is assholes and you'll feel bad about supporting any of them" that it leaves a bad taste in your mouth

  • RehabRehab Registered User regular
    rhylith wrote: »
    Rehab wrote: »
    Mr. G wrote: »
    Michael Mando is such a good actor that it tricked everyone into thinking Far Cry games are well-written

    His character Nacho in Better Call Saul is really good and very well acted by him.

    I'm eager to see where he goes next season.

    Oh shit I didn’t realize that was him.

    Yeah he does a very good job on BCS.

    I didn't realize it was him for awhile either and I think that is a testament to just how good he is.

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  • MorivethMoriveth BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWNRegistered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Nah, he was fun but I mean one of the foremost complaints about Far Cry 3 was how the writing was incredibly fucking dumb

    Any time a work starts extensively referencing Alice in Wonderland, it's time to buckle up for a ride to bullshit city

    Okay but White Rabbit is still a good song

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