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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    His infidelity led to Josuke though. Plus Susie took him back

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Well, we assume. She's mad as a hornet throughout part 4, and Joseph apparently had a lot of explaining to do when he came back from Morioh with an unrelated baby in tow.

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    Johnny ChopsockyJohnny Chopsocky Scootaloo! We have to cook! Grillin' HaysenburgersRegistered User regular
    edited August 2018
    RE5 episode 8 update

    Crazy Talk's power is maximum.

    Also Matt and explosions are never friends.

    Edit: "You have nothing what the hell" oh gosh Pat it's a mystery

    This is a quality fuckthrough already

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    PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    Joseph's left hand is a nazi.

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    AbsalonAbsalon Lands of Always WinterRegistered User regular
    Oh shit 2snacks is at the podcast!

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    RadiusRadius Registered User regular
    https://nintendoeverything.com/streets-of-rage-4-revealed/

    Can't believe they would steal dong dong never dies' thunder like this

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    cB557cB557 voOOP Registered User regular
    https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoBestFriendsPlay/comments/9aknl4/best_friends_play_marlow_briggs_part_3/e4w7g7u/
    Okay, so, I missed the first 2 episodes of of this, sadly, but as this sub's resident Mesoamerieaboo, I wanna use this as an opportunity to talk about and teach you all about cool shit relating to the Maya and Mesoamerican history, given the game's basis. I'll mostly be covering shit from the first 2 episodes for now since I missed those:

    To begin with, the Mask of Death itself isn't actually Maya: It's pretty distinctly Mixtec.

    The Mixtec were one of two major Mesoamerican groups in what's today the mexican states of Oaxaca and Guerrero alongside the Zapotec, who were mostly towards the east in Oaxaca, and were more politically dominant in the Classic period (200-800ad, the same time period the Maya were at their height). The Mixtec were mainly in the western portions of Oaxaca and in Guerrero, and were more politically dominant in the Postclassic (850-900AD to 1521 AD), especially the first half of which, where a warlord by the name of 8-Deer-Jaguar-Paw conquered and unified nearly the entire southern Oaxaca/Guerrero region into an empire. He was eventually overthrown and killed in an ironic twist of fate where the one member of his enemies/his family who he left alive rallied a bunch of city-states against him, though his empire would stay intact enough to be one of the few states to be able to resist Aztec expansionism centuries later

    Anyways, the Mixtec today are well known for their fine mosaic turquoise masks and other works of jewellery, much like the Mask of Death in Marlow Briggs. In fact, the Mask of Death seems to be EXPLICITLY based on this mixtec mask. I have lots of photos of rad-ass jeweleru, sculpture, and luxury art, as well as more info on Latin american civilization here, by the way.

    To continue with the cultural mangling, you also see an Aztec sun stone on a few surfaces and in the combo training area, and a lot of the Pyramids don't look particularly Maya, and the ones that do are clearly based cities many hundreds of miles and years apart (such as this and this ). Lastly, some of the giant stone heads don't even look specifically Mesoamerican.

    Those snafus aside, the Mask mentions Xibalba, the Maya underworld; and the names in the combo list are also of Maya deities: Kukulkan is a a Maya feathered serpent god analogous to Quetzalcoatl, Chaac is a rain diety, also analogous to the Aztec deity Tlaloc, etc. Your UI/healthbar is also based on a sculpture of the head of the most famous king of the Maya city of Palenque. The most impressive reference was the mask's "may you choke on torrents of pus" which is a reference to how in certain Maya myths, such as what's in the Popol Vuh/The tale of the Hero Twins, one of the obstacles you must face is a river of pus, and one of the rulers of the levels of Hell (It's sort of video-game esque) caused your body to inflate with pus. As a final note, I obligatorily gotta give /u/2BF-Woolie some flak for calling the Maya a tribe in the first video: multiple Maya cities would have been in the top 20 largest cities in the world if not in the top 10, they had a written language and books, complex societies with social classes and state goverments, large marketplaces and fine painted murals, etc. Calling them "tribes". would be like calling the Ancient Greeks tribes.

    I think this is where I'll leave my infodumping for this episode, but I'll be doing posts like this for each part of the let's play... hopefully not as long as this one each time. If you wanna learn more about Mesoamerican history, check out the prior posts of mine on this sub I did about Mesoamerican history (sort of wonder if I'll get a flair if I keep going at it like the friendcast timestamp guy did):

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    Crippl3Crippl3 oh noRegistered User regular
    You should go and read the actual post (it is Reddit though so I wouldn't blame you for avoiding that) because it has a bunch of links to pics and more info, and the dude has written a bunch more about stuff like Kotal Khan, Aztec God Of War, and more

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    PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    edited August 2018
    OK, so, 8-Deer's brothers and party-members were 12 Earthquake “Bloody Jaguar” and 9 Flower “Copalball with Arrow”.

    The germanic tribes also had a couple of kingdoms, but you wouldn't normally call all of them "the germanic tribe". Calling the Maya a tribe is weird because they were pretty divided.
    The greek tribes also took some time to build a shared identity.

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    What's the significance behind the leading numbers?

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    PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    edited August 2018
    Their birthdates are part of their names. I think the last bits like "cat-claw" are more personal.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzolk'in

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User, Moderator mod
    Huh, I wonder if the angel name format in Kill Six Billion Demons was at least somewhat inspired by that Mixtec naming convention.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Huh, I wonder if the angel name format in Kill Six Billion Demons was at least somewhat inspired by that Mixtec naming convention.

    No, because the angels seem to have the numbers correlate to the number of reincarnations. I think.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User, Moderator mod
    I mean not a 1:1 exactly the same meaning, just inspired by it on a surface level

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    GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    So in Banner Saga Pat missed some info about how the Varl were created by one particular god, are practically immortal (but not invincible), and no more can be created.
    So their numbers are constantly dwindling.

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    PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    Alas, poor big boys.

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    Crippl3Crippl3 oh noRegistered User regular
    it's the price you pay to get those 2 extra grid squares

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited August 2018
    PLA wrote: »
    OK, so, 8-Deer's brothers and party-members were 12 Earthquake “Bloody Jaguar” and 9 Flower “Copalball with Arrow”.

    The germanic tribes also had a couple of kingdoms, but you wouldn't normally call all of them "the germanic tribe". Calling the Maya a tribe is weird because they were pretty divided.
    The greek tribes also took some time to build a shared identity.
    greeks and mayan's both had-state stlye of organization, but the mayan had kings that potentially ruled over many city-states, while the classical greeks had varying forms of governance

    "tribe" tends to be a term based around ethnographic and social complexities and can be a kinda collar-tuggy term

    in a general sense it refers to a group of peoples who tend to share a common ethnicity and have much smaller and less complex socities, but you can see where that might get real tricky real quickly

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    PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    edited August 2018
    Ionians be like "dorians be like this, and ionians be like this".
    It's not like greeks didn't form leagues or hegemonies.

    Speaking of the DLC-shop in Street Fighter V, Dan seems really happy for Blanka.
    Rashid's Airman-costume is amazing.

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    "No, that was experience. That's a missile. That's experience and a missile."

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    PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    People have just started saying "pog" instead of posting pogchamp.

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    It's back. In pog form.

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR44FkZ_t5s

    I think the localization needs a second pass

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    GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    me think perfect

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    oh geeze this is real bad

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    what is happening

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    DeansDeans Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    what is happening

    15 years before 30 years after Gene Rain Mechanical Heart putters were pulled to do with Wind Towers.

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    PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
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    cB557cB557 voOOP Registered User regular
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    RadiusRadius Registered User regular
    has science gone too far

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Is this Attache Case HD?

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    ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    Is this Attache Case HD?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU-76k4OMIM

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    cB557cB557 voOOP Registered User regular
    https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoBestFriendsPlay/comments/9bf3la/best_friends_play_marlow_briggs_part_5/e52o0j4/?context=3
    So, 2 ago episode of Marlow briggs I started to talk about some of it's basic influnces in Maya culture, as well as stuff it got wrong, such as the Mask being influenced by Mixtec art. Unfortunately, like how I missed the first 3 episodes, I missed the chance to chime in on episode 4, but i'm gonna continue now.

    In particular, i'd like to focus on something that's been mentioned a few times but I think is sort of important despite nobody really realizing it: That is, the evil Chinese business dude has asked Marlow's wife to translate some glyphs, and to decode some "codices", whatever those are.

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    RadiusRadius Registered User regular
    I'm watching the RE4 playthrough, so, informal poll:
    • Saddler, you're small-time.

    or
    • Your right hand comes off?

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    ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    The utter disdain in the small-time comment is great. But the other line is the one I'll just say randomly whenever anything vaguely related to it comes up. Or I just think of RE4.

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    PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    It's great that Saddler laughs and says "writhe in my cage of torment" with a tone like "alright, catch you later."


    Matt made ProZD read one of his engrish porns. There's a rare collectible Matt-laugh.

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    KamarKamar Registered User regular
    They're riding the "Saturday Morning Cartoon Black Actor Sound-Alike" bit really hard in the Marlow Briggs LP, but it's hilarious so it's fine.

    I've also been watching the LA Noire LP again. Another LP made strong by (mocking) racism.

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Marlow's voice work doesn't help matters. The game's script is something else.

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    GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_nRv4cvft0
    the crows come home to roost

    on the corpses of pat's party members

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