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ALL-BLACK THE [FASHION THREAD]

StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice,To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
It's all black all the time in the fashion thread. That's right, we got fashion for:

Edwardians!

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New Romantics!

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Cybergoths!

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Nu Goths!

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Pastel Goths!

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Are you still a baby bat or a mallgoth? Don't worry, these videos may be able to help you define your true gothic calling (warning, they do contain people getting dressed and undressed):



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  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    edited February 27
    Punks and cyberpunks are also allowed, provided they keep reasonably within the margins of "None more black"

    Steampunks are forbidden

    Straightzi on
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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    I really like yellow

    bowen
  • OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel Shell, Teeth, Eyes, Flame, Claws, Breath, Scales, FUN!Registered User regular
    Okay I see Edwardians sure but what about the Jacobians?

    Don't get it it twisted, I'm still cute as hell tho.
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  • SnicketysnickSnicketysnick The Greatest Hype Man in WesterosRegistered User regular
    SLICER OF FABRIC

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    D3 Steam #TeamTangent STO
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  • tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    alllrriiiiiight let's gooooo
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    ... oh. Well, shit.

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    What in tarnation

    Ladies.
  • JoeUserJoeUser Registered User regular
    I was surprised at they went back 40 years for goth, but now I see The Cure got together in 1976.

    PSN: JoeUser80 Steam
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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    whenever the olds start in on how baggy pants should be outlawed, I link them stuff like this

    I'd much rather see the top of some dudes boxers than every scraggly hair and bulging vein on some guys thigh

  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    I wear black underwear.

    I play games on ps3 and ps4. My PSN is DouglasDanger.
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  • tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Xaquin wrote: »
    whenever the olds start in on how baggy pants should be outlawed, I link them stuff like this

    I'd much rather see the top of some dudes boxers than every scraggly hair and bulging vein on some guys thigh

    those veins are better men than you will ever be


    also I had this in my tabs as a hangover from the safety-pin/punk discussion in the last thread


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  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    Xaquin wrote: »
    whenever the olds start in on how baggy pants should be outlawed, I link them stuff like this

    I'd much rather see the top of some dudes boxers than every scraggly hair and bulging vein on some guys thigh

    I'd rather see both, if you catch my drift

  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    what was the original intention behind "catch my drift" I wonder

    Ladies.
  • ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    I'm wearing a black turtle neck sweater right now and I am feeling very gorth.

  • Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    A tactleneck? Are you a spy?

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    tynic wrote: »
    Xaquin wrote: »
    whenever the olds start in on how baggy pants should be outlawed, I link them stuff like this

    I'd much rather see the top of some dudes boxers than every scraggly hair and bulging vein on some guys thigh

    those veins are better men than you will ever be


    also I had this in my tabs as a hangover from the safety-pin/punk discussion in the last thread


    psshhh

    I have more veins in my ankles than those men have in their thighs

    ....

    maybe I should see a doctor or get some more sun or something

    tynic
  • OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel Shell, Teeth, Eyes, Flame, Claws, Breath, Scales, FUN!Registered User regular
    I think we need to destigmatize the human body in general and let people show as much or as little skin as they are personally comfortable with.

    Don't get it it twisted, I'm still cute as hell tho.
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  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    edited February 27
    bowen wrote: »
    what was the original intention behind "catch my drift" I wonder
    Polonius wrote:
    Marry, sir, here's my drift,
    And I believe it is a fetch of wit.
    You laying these slight sullies on my son,
    As 'twere a thing a little soiled i' th' working,
    Mark you, your party in converse, him you would sound,
    Having ever seen in the prenominate crimes
    The youth you breathe of guilty, be assured
    He closes with you in this consequence:
    'Good sir,' or so, or 'friend,' or 'gentleman,'
    According to the phrase or the addition
    Of man and country.

    Straightzi on
  • tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 27
    bowen wrote: »
    what was the original intention behind "catch my drift" I wonder

    I could have sworn this was a sailing term originally, but i can't find anything concrete beyond random reddit posts.

    edit: actually looks like it was originally quite a literal phrase, not really a metaphor
    OED wrote:
    a. The conscious direction of action or speech to some end; the end itself; what one is ‘driving at’; purpose, intention, object, aim. (Now rare, exc. in reference to speech or writing: see also 1b.)
    1526 W. Bonde Pylgrimage of Perfection Pref. sig. Aiv Harde it is..to perceyue the processe and dryft of this treatise.

    tynic on
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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    Xaquin wrote: »
    whenever the olds start in on how baggy pants should be outlawed, I link them stuff like this

    I'd much rather see the top of some dudes boxers than every scraggly hair and bulging vein on some guys thigh

    i feel the exact opposite

    and let's quit slamming old people

  • JoeUserJoeUser Registered User regular
    This is a monthly thing in my town. I haven't been, but I'm curious to see how Salem does goth.

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    tynic wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    what was the original intention behind "catch my drift" I wonder

    I could have sworn this was a sailing term originally, but i can't find anything concrete beyond random reddit posts.

    This was as good as I could do personally:

    https://www.web2carz.com/trends/offline/2282/dont-be-an-idiom-catch-my-drift

    But that website is hot trash (avoid clicking it without antivirus and lots of adblockers)
    Idiom: Catch my drift

    Definition: To understand the meaning of; to understand something that is implied.

    Example: "Hey fella, how about bending a couple in the Dooda Room, if you catch my meaning, if ya get my drift!” – Firesign Theatre, “How Can You Be In Two Places At Once When You’re Not Anywhere At All?”

    Origin: The origin of the phrase “catch my drift” lies with the word “drift.” The oldest usage dates back to the 14th Century, when it was used to describe the movement and accumulation of snow. It was most likely adapted from either a Proto-Germanic, Middle Dutch, or Old Norse word meaning “to drive, push.”

    It wasn’t until the 1500s when the word began to be used to mean “that which one is getting at.” The transition to the meaning that led to the phrase “catch my drift” probably came from its usage in relation to driving cattle.

    What makes “catch my drift” odd in a modern context is that the word “drift” eventually took on a paradoxical meaning – we now understand it to refer to going off course, being aimless, or being separated. The reason this change in meaning took place is unclear, but fortunately it’s not relevant to this article.

    Ladies.
  • AuralynxAuralynx Thirty-Seven Keys Registered User regular
    JoeUser wrote: »
    This is a monthly thing in my town. I haven't been, but I'm curious to see how Salem does goth.

    From what I recall from about 15 years ago, the answer was "Pretty much like everyone else, but fairly thoroughly."

    Space... what is the point of it? You have no idea.
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  • tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    yeah I found that too. I don't like etymology posts without citation, they tend to be pub reasoning in textual form.

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  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    tynic wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    what was the original intention behind "catch my drift" I wonder

    I could have sworn this was a sailing term originally, but i can't find anything concrete beyond random reddit posts.

    Yeah, I was thinking similar, but it looks like it's actually more just based around the archaic meaning of the word drift as "to drive" (which comes from Dutch, it appears)

    Etymonline lists the specific meaning we're discussing as dating to the 1520s, but it doesn't cite that, so the earliest I could readily find was the Hamlet quote

    tynic
  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Xaquin wrote: »
    whenever the olds start in on how baggy pants should be outlawed, I link them stuff like this

    I'd much rather see the top of some dudes boxers than every scraggly hair and bulging vein on some guys thigh

    i feel the exact opposite

    and let's quit slamming old people

    hey, to each his or her own

    I'm just stating personal preference

  • tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 27
    see above, I edited in an early 1500s quote sourced from the OED - Queen Mary also used the term.

    tynic on
    Straightzi
  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    This has been bothering me for several years, thank you tynic.

    Ladies.
    tynic
  • JansonJanson Registered User regular
    edited February 27
    New Romantic! <3

    All right, time to rant about bras.

    I've posted this link before and I'll happily do so again. Reeaaaaaaad it. Believe in it.

    The U.S. in particular sucks for bras. Really sucks. I mean it. Even if you can find larger cup sizes they tend to fit weirdly. The few places that don't suck, like Nordstrom and select boutiques, tend to import their bras. Nordstrom stocks a lot of UK brands and if you want a country-wide place to go, Nordstrom's is it, pretty much.

    The UK is perhaps the only country in the world to really have its shit together re. bras and I'm not just saying that because I'm British, I swear. Even then it's hard to find a wide range of sizes on the high street and places like M&S still measure you incorrectly.

    Anyway, the first thing to understand is that a D cup is actually pretty fucking small, although here I note that cup size is dependent upon your frame. If you're slender or have an athletic frame a D-cup's going to look considerably bigger on you than on a larger, less athletic frame.

    This isn't boasting, or bragging. Every time I try and spread this information around there's someone who feels that claiming to be a D+ cup size is claiming to have enormous boobs and definitely NOT them and they end up sizing up in the band instead and ending up with an uncomfortably fitting bra and shit, SO many people in the U.S. (and elsewhere, I assume) are wearing completely the wrong size bra.

    A D cup means that if you take your chest measurement around the fullest part of your boobs, it's just 4 inches larger than under your bust. 4 inches. It's not a lot. That doesn't mean your boobs are projecting 4 inches forward - that's around the whole chest.

    Your favourite 'DD!!!' porn star is probably at least a G/H cup, to be honest.

    Anyway, wearing a good bra is important! Yes, there was a French study that showed that wearing no bra was better for you but it focused only on people aged 18-35, and the author of the study himself has said that it's only evidence that people should not necessarily start wearing bras; a person accustomed to wearing a bra is not likely to benefit from suddenly ditching it. I also read elsewhere that the study largely focused on smaller-framed, smaller-boobed people.

    A well-fitting bra is not uncomfortable. Personally I feel more comfortable wearing a bra than not wearing one.

    U.S. companies are shit and I've not found anything proving otherwise. Yes, I've been getting those adverts for Third Love on Facebook, too. They're pretty convincing. But they don't stock anything above an E cup and that instantly makes me suspicious; they also have a sucky variety and at least one of my friends has had to try on at least three of their bras, even after consulting them over video. HMM.

    But D+ bras are sooo uggggly and expensive. NO! There's DOZENS of brands that sell beautiful and colorful D+ bras out there! Let me point you right now to my favourite site, brastop.com. (NSFW for obvious reasons). They also have regular sales. I just bought 4 bras for $140 including a full-priced sports bra, not bad!

    If you're not convinced of your size, Nordstrom has free returns! They're a lot pricier than brastop and similar sites but you can at least try on several sizes until you find what fits.

    This post inspired by yet another friend swearing they're not a D+ cup and going with Third Love despite my advice. :(

    Janson on
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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    I now know a lot about bras I did not know before.

    I am unsure of how to use this information.

    Ladies.
  • tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 27
    Hell I have larger friends in Aus who order from the UK because there's just so much more range in the bigger cup sizes.

    I still order my bras from M&S because when I lived there I found a line that's cheap, comfortable, and cute, and the amount of time saved by just clicking a button instead of heaving myself to a mall and trying a bunch of shit on is inconceivable.

    tynic on
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  • JansonJanson Registered User regular
    Also, a note that as with clothes sizing, bra brands do differ, even amongst the good ones.

    Panache is highly regarded and it's probably one of the best known bigger bra brands, but they don't fit me quite right. They're a 'good-enough' fit, and I can see why they're highly regarded, but I personally do best with Fantasie. Luckily the subReddit linked to by that tumblr post have a lot of info on what bra brand might be best for your shape. A good bra site, too, will allow you to filter by bra style.

    However, the good brands are reasonably consistent with sizes, so if something's mostly right, your size is probably right, you probably just want a different style bra. I've tried 5-6 well-reviewed brands in my size and they all do the job in a pinch. The only well-reviewed brand where I was like 'WTF is this garbage' was Curvy Kate, so I'm most wary of recommending that, but perhaps it was just the one bra of theirs I tried that was odd.

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    I now know a lot about bras I did not know before.

    I am unsure of how to use this information.

    buy a properly sized bra, duh

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  • honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    ChicoBlue wrote: »
    I'm wearing a black turtle neck sweater right now and I am feeling very gorth.

    What shade of black is it? Just black or a slightly darker shade of black?

  • JoeUserJoeUser Registered User regular
    Black like a doll's eyes

    PSN: JoeUser80 Steam
    Grey Ghost
  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Xaquin wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    I now know a lot about bras I did not know before.

    I am unsure of how to use this information.

    buy a properly sized bra, duh

    I could do that, sure. It wouldn't do me much good though?

    Ladies.
  • JansonJanson Registered User regular
    It's actually quite amazing how hard it is to spread accurate information. The media's done a really great job of perpetuating the DD=WOAH stereotype.

    Last time I posted the link on FB my BFF commented and said, "great info! However I used to measure bras on the high street and that link neglects to say you should add +4 to your band size."

    HEAD. DESK.

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    DARQ

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  • LiiyaLiiya Registered User regular
    edited February 27
    I must admit I am the kind of person who assumes D is large, possibly because I have a smaller frame? Is it all to do with proportion to frame?

    Alternatively I have a very difficult time finding bras because the fashion industry seems to think women my size all want massively padded bras. That used to make me so insecure, fuck you fashion industry!

    Edit: to clarify this is not me disagreeing, just trying to understand and change my quite possibly incorrect perception!

    Liiya on
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  • JansonJanson Registered User regular
    edited February 27
    Liiya wrote: »
    I must admit I am the kind of person who assumes D is large, possibly because I have a smaller frame? Is it all to do with proportion to frame?

    Yes; absolutely!

    Since cup size is relative to your band size, if you have a small band size, the difference is going to be more marked. A 4" difference on a slender 28" frame is going to look a lot larger than on a plus-size 38" frame.

    If you're broader and taller, too, that's also going to make a difference in appearance.

    Edit: Bra Band Project went under and is currently being replaced, but in the meantime it's been archived! It's worth a look if you're curious.
    Liiya wrote: »
    Alternatively I have a very difficult time finding bras because the fashion industry seems to think women my size all want massively padded bras. That used to make me so insecure, fuck you fashion industry!

    Yeah, that sucks. :( Every person deserves access to bras in a variety of shapes and colours!

    Janson on
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  • LiiyaLiiya Registered User regular
    I see! Well, I learned something new! I must say I'm surprised to hear the US is poor in terms of bras, though. I would have imagined that the general sizes of women is a similar average...? Its not like Japan where the national average is to have a smaller frame or height.

    Janson
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