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    DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    Jesus, she's 85 years old. That should be enough.

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    dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    yes but strom thurmond

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    She should have retired, I think.

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    JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    These last couple weeks are going to be busy.

    Net Neutrality still being fought:

    http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-khanna-net-neutrality-20180813-story.html

    Nothing new in the article, it's an op-ed, but it does a good job going "TELECOMS ARE LYING. HERE ARE THEIR LYING LIES, CALL YOUR REPS."


    Toss bail reform on the pile, too:

    https://outline.com/khvWta
    With so many battles being waged over these final weeks of the California Legislature’s session — contentious issues including wildfire liability rules and net neutrality — a crowd of Sacramento political watchers last week seemed surprised by the topic that’s on the top of the to-do list for legislative leaders.

    “Bail reform,” Assembly Speaker Anthony Rendon (D-Paramount) said in remarks to the Sacramento Press Club. “It’s something I consider to be not only a criminal justice issue, but an economic justice issue.”

    Changes to the rules governing pretrial release — when bail is offered as a way to ensure someone doesn’t skip town — have been considered, and rejected, in the Legislature for decades. Each time, the status quo prevailed.

    This time, advocates for revamping the money bail system have some heavy hitters on their side, including Gov. Jerry Brown and state Supreme Court Chief Justice Tani Cantil-Sakauye. The chief justice’s working group last year called the existing rules “unsafe and unfair” and urged reforms focused less on who has money, and more on who poses a danger to the community if released while awaiting trial.

    The proposal now on the table, Senate Bill 10, would require counties to establish a new system to evaluate the release of defendants and would limit the amount of money posted for bail to the “least restrictive level” needed to ensure the person shows up for court. The bill would give prosecutors the power to ask a judge to block the pretrial release of a person deemed too dangerous and would require those risk assessments to be done in a matter of hours.With so many battles being waged over these final weeks of the California Legislature’s session — contentious issues including wildfire liability rules and net neutrality — a crowd of Sacramento political watchers last week seemed surprised by the topic that’s on the top of the to-do list for legislative leaders.

    “Bail reform,” Assembly Speaker Anthony Rendon (D-Paramount) said in remarks to the Sacramento Press Club. “It’s something I consider to be not only a criminal justice issue, but an economic justice issue.”

    Changes to the rules governing pretrial release — when bail is offered as a way to ensure someone doesn’t skip town — have been considered, and rejected, in the Legislature for decades. Each time, the status quo prevailed.

    This time, advocates for revamping the money bail system have some heavy hitters on their side, including Gov. Jerry Brown and state Supreme Court Chief Justice Tani Cantil-Sakauye. The chief justice’s working group last year called the existing rules “unsafe and unfair” and urged reforms focused less on who has money, and more on who poses a danger to the community if released while awaiting trial.

    The proposal now on the table, Senate Bill 10, would require counties to establish a new system to evaluate the release of defendants and would limit the amount of money posted for bail to the “least restrictive level” needed to ensure the person shows up for court. The bill would give prosecutors the power to ask a judge to block the pretrial release of a person deemed too dangerous and would require those risk assessments to be done in a matter of hours.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    And because there's nothing else court-related going on today:


    BREAKING: US Justice Dept.: US Rep. Duncan Hunter and his wife indicted by federal grand jury for allegedly converting more than $250,000 in campaign funds to pay for personal expenses and filing false campaign finance records with FEC.

    NBC News is a news organization.

    Hunter (R-Big Vape) is the guy who was caught using campaign funds to pay off a Steam bill.

    We have officially hit "telenovela during sweeps" levels of story threads today. Pity the livers of our mod staff.

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    PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    Which means Trump's first two endorsers in the House are under indictment for corruption.

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    JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    With regards to the bail reform bill, ACLU has pulled their support:

    http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-may-2018-aclu-moves-to-oppose-the-california-bail-1534785931-htmlstory.html
    Another major supporter behind a sweeping bill to end money bail in California has moved to oppose the effort after amendments unveiled last week granted greater power to judges to decide who should remain incarcerated while awaiting trial.

    Three executive directors with the American Civil Liberties Union on Monday released a statement moving the organization’s stance from neutral to opposed, saying the state legislation falls short of its intended goals and would compromise the rights to fair court proceedings for criminal defendants.

    “Unfortunately, this amended version of SB 10 is not the model for pretrial justice and racial equity that the ACLU of California envisioned, worked for, and remains determined to achieve,” read the statement from ACLU directors Abdi Soltani in Northern California, Hector Villagra in Southern California and Norma Chávez Peterson, representing San Diego and Imperial Counties.

    The change in position puts the ACLU alongside other criminal justice reform supporters who are now actively working to kill the legislation — and on the same side as a bail industry that has worked to sink the bill from the beginning.

    Outside the criminal courthouse in downtown Los Angeles, home to the nation’s largest jail system, some 20 new opponents of the bill on Monday chanted “Reject SB 10!” More than a dozen more gave emotional speeches against the legislation outside the state Capitol in Sacramento. The demonstrators said the measure would give judges unfettered power to hold people behind bars and lead to higher rates of incarceration with people locked up for longer periods of time.

    “SB 10 will keep undocumented people accused but not convicted of crimes in custody longer without the option of bailing out quickly, exposing them to detection by ICE,” said Pete White, executive director of the Los Angeles Community Action Network, a group that helps people dealing with poverty.

    The latest version of Senate Bill 10, co-written by State Sen. Bob Hertzberg (D-Van Nuys) and Assemblyman Rob Bonta (D-Alameda), would virtually eliminate the payment of money as a condition for release from jail. Counties would have to establish their own pretrial services agencies, which would use “risk-assessment tools,” or analysis, to evaluate people booked into jail to determine whether and under what conditions they should be released.

    But the changes released last week also gave greater discretion to judges over conditions for all prisoners in a practice known as “preventive detention,” allowing them to decide which people are a danger to the community and should be held without the possibility of release.

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    Desktop HippieDesktop Hippie Registered User regular
    I keep thinking this is just like several Fridays in a row last year and then remembering that today is Tuesday.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    I keep thinking this is just like several Fridays in a row last year and then remembering that today is Tuesday.

    You have to take the Fridays you get.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Also, Hunter's indictment has political and electoral ramifications:
    Republican Party leaders had long worried that with a potential indictment looming, Hunter's traditionally safe district which makes up much of eastern San Diego County could be at risk of Democratic takeover in November's midterm election.

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    PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    Also, Hunter's indictment has political and electoral ramifications:
    Republican Party leaders had long worried that with a potential indictment looming, Hunter's traditionally safe district which makes up much of eastern San Diego County could be at risk of Democratic takeover in November's midterm election.

    It is one of 5 "safe r" seats in CA according to the 538 model

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    JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    A quarter million ain't peanuts, either.

    If it was like $10,000, it'd be easy to ignore. $250,000 is enough to potentially push people into "well, I'm not voting for his opponent, but I'm not voting for him, either."

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    Hunter is a cartoon villain.
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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Wow that's some awful shit right there.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    Wow that's some awful shit right there.

    Not to mention campaign ad fodder.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    But will it work in San Diego? Like does his district contain enough upset military people?

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    edited August 2018
    Preacher wrote: »
    But will it work in San Diego? Like does his district contain enough upset military people?

    I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but there's over 100,000 active military personnel in San Diego.

    e: Mostly Navy and Marine Corps.

    e2: Looks like a quarter million veterans, too.

    e3: And sourcing!
    According to the San Diego Chamber of Commerce "Military Employment in San Diego" Report:

    More than 240,500 veterans reside in San Diego and another 370,000 live in Los Angeles County
    Military veterans make up more than 13% of the population of San Diego County
    San Diego County is estimated to have the third-highest number of veteran residents of any county in the nation
    13.5% of San Diego County businesses are owned or jointly owned by veterans
    San Diego County is “the number one destination in the nation for newly returning veterans”
    San Diego veterans are comparatively young. The population between eighteen and thirty-five years old is approximately double that of national figures
    San Diego veterans are “younger and better educated” than the national average
    35% of San Diego-area veterans hold a bachelor’s degree or higher

    https://www.tjsl.edu/military/san-diego-community

    Sounds like SOMEONE should start making some "committed fraud and stole from veterans" ad buys.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    But will it work in San Diego? Like does his district contain enough upset military people?

    San Diego is the home of PACCOM - the US Navy Pacific Command. It is the West Coast version of Norfolk, Virginia.

    Yes, ripping off the vets will not play well there.

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    Desktop HippieDesktop Hippie Registered User regular
    PantsB wrote: »
    Which means Trump's first two endorsers in the House are under indictment for corruption.

    In case anyone was wondering, the third member of Congress to endorse him was Jeff Sessions.

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    Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Come on Rule of Three*

    *new rule of three based on indictments not celebrity deaths, cause I want these fuckers to live in utter disgrace and shame for so many more years

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    MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    edited August 2018
    Verizon is working the '80s Cartoon Villain' angle, apparently

    Verizon throttled fire department’s “unlimited” data during Calif. wildfire
    "The Internet has become an essential tool in providing fire and emergency response, particularly for events like large fires which require the rapid deployment and organization of thousands of personnel and hundreds of fire engines, aircraft, and bulldozers," Bowden wrote.

    Santa Clara Fire paid Verizon for "unlimited" data but suffered from heavy throttling until the department paid Verizon more, according to Bowden's declaration and emails between the fire department and Verizon that were submitted as evidence.

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    ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    Verizon is working the '80s Cartoon Villain' angle, apparently

    Verizon throttled fire department’s “unlimited” data during Calif. wildfire
    "The Internet has become an essential tool in providing fire and emergency response, particularly for events like large fires which require the rapid deployment and organization of thousands of personnel and hundreds of fire engines, aircraft, and bulldozers," Bowden wrote.

    Santa Clara Fire paid Verizon for "unlimited" data but suffered from heavy throttling until the department paid Verizon more, according to Bowden's declaration and emails between the fire department and Verizon that were submitted as evidence.

    Throttling is normal and part of your contract. But as soon as they heard "I'm the fire chief and I'm working on this fucking huge fire out here!" they should have been tripping over themselves to get the lines up and running properly again. This is some PR 101 bullshit.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited August 2018
    Los Angeles Times reporter:


    It is like all these people are incapable of realizing that they are moving onto a stage where this sort of thing is more likely to get caught.

    Couscous on
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    PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    But will it work in San Diego? Like does his district contain enough upset military people?

    San Diego is the home of PACCOM - the US Navy Pacific Command. It is the West Coast version of Norfolk, Virginia.

    Yes, ripping off the vets will not play well there.



    (La times reporter)

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    JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    PantsB wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    But will it work in San Diego? Like does his district contain enough upset military people?

    San Diego is the home of PACCOM - the US Navy Pacific Command. It is the West Coast version of Norfolk, Virginia.

    Yes, ripping off the vets will not play well there.



    (La times reporter)

    ....I would donate to a collection which buys a billboard which consists of nothing but that quote with -- "Rep Duncan Hunter (R)" along I-5.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    PantsB wrote: »
    Also, Hunter's indictment has political and electoral ramifications:
    Republican Party leaders had long worried that with a potential indictment looming, Hunter's traditionally safe district which makes up much of eastern San Diego County could be at risk of Democratic takeover in November's midterm election.

    It is one of 5 "safe r" seats in CA according to the 538 model

    Cook just moved the race to Lean Republican.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Also, it looks like Hunter may have been raiding the campaign till to pay for an affair:
    In one instance in January 2010, the congressman allegedly spent more than $1,000 for a three-night stay at the Hyatt Regency Lake Tahoe Resort, Spa and Casino for what was described as a "personal ski trip" with a person identified in the indictment only as "Individual 14."

    The indictment states that in June 2011, Hunter used $162 in campaign funds "for a personal stay at the Liaison Capitol Hill hotel with Individual 14."

    Also, "Liason Capital Hill hotel"? Really? We deserve better writers than these hacks.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Today was the arraignment for the Hunters. How'd that go?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUAt08rVKXk

    About what you'd expect. The "lock him up" chant was a nice touch.

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    shalmeloshalmelo sees no evil Registered User regular
    Jragghen wrote: »
    PantsB wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    But will it work in San Diego? Like does his district contain enough upset military people?

    San Diego is the home of PACCOM - the US Navy Pacific Command. It is the West Coast version of Norfolk, Virginia.

    Yes, ripping off the vets will not play well there.



    (La times reporter)

    ....I would donate to a collection which buys a billboard which consists of nothing but that quote with -- "Rep Duncan Hunter (R)" along I-5.

    Gotta be careful where you put it, though. A billboard like that would probably improve his approval numbers with the Marines at Camp Pendleton. Is Oceanside in Hunter's district?

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    SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    shalmelo wrote: »
    Jragghen wrote: »
    PantsB wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    But will it work in San Diego? Like does his district contain enough upset military people?

    San Diego is the home of PACCOM - the US Navy Pacific Command. It is the West Coast version of Norfolk, Virginia.

    Yes, ripping off the vets will not play well there.



    (La times reporter)

    ....I would donate to a collection which buys a billboard which consists of nothing but that quote with -- "Rep Duncan Hunter (R)" along I-5.

    Gotta be careful where you put it, though. A billboard like that would probably improve his approval numbers with the Marines at Camp Pendleton. Is Oceanside in Hunter's district?

    No, he's all inland. IIRC, Pendleton is Issa's district

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    MolotovCockatooMolotovCockatoo Registered User regular


    Yashar Ali is a HuffPo Reporter.

    Wow. What a piece of work. Throws his wife completely under the bus.

    Killjoy wrote: »
    No jeez Orik why do you assume the worst about people?

    Because he moderates an internet forum

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    SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    Even if they're letting him go and set his narrative, I'm actually surprised that those questions were actually pretty pointed. For cable news in general, much less Fox

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    Desktop HippieDesktop Hippie Registered User regular
    This is the same guy who blamed his son when he was investigated before, isn’t it?

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    This is the same guy who blamed his son when he was investigated before, isn’t it?

    Yep!

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    This is the same guy who blamed his son when he was investigated before, isn’t it?

    Yep!

    Wasn't that the previous Duncan Hunter blaming this Duncan Hunter?

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    This is the same guy who blamed his son when he was investigated before, isn’t it?

    Yep!

    Wasn't that the previous Duncan Hunter blaming this Duncan Hunter?

    No, it was him blaming his son for racking up a Steam bill paid for with campaign funds.

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    a5ehrena5ehren AtlantaRegistered User regular
    Now he's blaming his wife. That will be a fun divorce, I'd guess.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    a5ehren wrote: »
    Now he's blaming his wife. That will be a fun divorce, I'd guess.

    Well this indictment clearly implies he had an affair and billed it to his campaign. Though from the documents she's as awful as he is.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    a5ehren wrote: »
    Now he's blaming his wife. That will be a fun divorce, I'd guess.

    Well this indictment clearly implies he had an affair and billed it to his campaign. Though from the documents she's as awful as he is.

    "An" affair? You need to read the details:



    Helen Kennedy is a news reporter.

    Mr. Hunter has been a naughty boy, as well as forgetting the motto of the military branch he served in.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    So he'll easily be reelected then?

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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