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[Monster Hunter] World: New elder dragon event. Squad up!

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    DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    Question about the xeno 'jiiva fight.
    Is this a joke?
    Follow up question.
    No really, is this a joke?

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    SeidkonaSeidkona Had an upgrade Registered User regular
    DanHibiki wrote: »
    Question about the xeno 'jiiva fight.
    Is this a joke?
    Follow up question.
    No really, is this a joke?

    Look Xeno's just weaponized the strongest move the monsters have:

    Slowly walking.

    Mostly just huntin' monsters.
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    BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Naphtali wrote: »
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    navgoose wrote: »
    Drascin wrote: »
    I was just yesterday splatted from full by a Diablos. Course, low rank armor in High Rank does that. But basically I went to fight a Barroth to get some materials to make a high rank armor, and the game left me literally under a Diablos to start the mission. I ran away, misremembered which ledge I could jump off from because I haven't played in a month, and got charged from full to cart while turning around.

    Second cart in the game, and amusingly both to Diablos!

    Being a couple upgrade cycles behind on armor in understandable. I just can't reconcile my play experience with people who claim one-shot faints are a common occurrence. About a third of my hunts have been bow, so It isn't that I'm blademaster only. I haven't been killed in a single hit outside testing out Diablos on a low rank wildspire quest when you first open it up. Stuff like an Uragaan superpound, Nerg dive, and Teostra bang couldn't quite do it.

    I am being real here, the end goal is trying to understand my work bro's problems. He quit the game due to monsters killing him in one hit and he says the same stuff you guys do that he is upgraded armor etc. I figured it was just we had different meanings for "one-shot" deaths but many forumers are backing him up so I am at a loss.

    I have heard hr tempered kirin will kill in one hit from any lightning

    I had also heard that about nerg’s dive, who I’m about to fight for the first time

    I’ll have to keep on fighting to find that answer

    depends on your defenses with tempered kirin, and which lightning bolt it is. the huge circle aoe one probably will one shot

    Depends on your defenses. Nothing from tempered can one-shot you when you're sitting at 40 lightning resist though (resist is linear percentage, so 40 resist = 40% damage reduction iirc).

    Will assume from now on that talk of one-shots is a result of fighting unarmored in an attempt to cause a damage overflow and heal from attacks instead

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    Corporal CarlCorporal Carl Registered User regular
    Xeno’Jiva for me is:
    - aim bow at head: Out of Range
    - she makes one step
    - turn 180 degrees
    - aim bow at tail: Out of Range

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    AretèAretè infiltrating neo zeed compoundRegistered User regular
    Had to break for meal prep, but HR alpha odo set is done and soon as I turn in one more bounty, the armor will be upgraded to the max allowed for my current hunter rank. Should make tackling the rest of the pre nergi HR stuff a bit easier.

    Took a lot of dead odos and I honestly thought I would have a longer time trying to get a Odoragon gem but I popped a SOS flare with a silver/gold reward investigation, some pro hunters jumped in and within the space of 8 minutes odo was dead and I was the proud owner of a shiny new gem.

    Went ahead and crafted the odoragon lance too, to complete the set. I am ready to murder in the name of high fashion.

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    fRAWRstfRAWRst The Seas Call The Mad AnswerRegistered User regular
    all of the Oda weapons are so sexy

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    ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    Haha, that's a pretty good coincidence. I was just gonna say, I wanted to try a new lance setup so I farmed Oda, crafted his lance and built up a new crit set, since I actually have some of the decos to support it.

    Oda Lance
    Dragonking Eyepatch w weakness exploit deco
    Dober Mail beta w crit boost deco
    Ingot gloves beta w health boost deco
    Oda Coil beta w elementless deco
    Dober Legs beta w crit eye deco
    Ironside Charm

    Giving me Guard 3, Weakness Exploit 3, attack boost 4, crit boost 1, crit eye 3, and health boost 3.

    Meta af probably

    Should be...95%? affinity on a weak point? The fashion is... okay for a certain sort of preference ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

    Since the crit chance is already so high, I could probably dump the theoretical augments into healing and raw damage.

    Only big problem is a lack of slots. There is no room for anything whatsoever.

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    WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    Lavasioth is still a slow, tedious fight

    Even with the Brazenbreak's fire effect to keep the armor from hardening, that takes forever. I think the head actually stops being a weak point once you break it, which is... a design decision

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    navgoosenavgoose Registered User regular
    Elendil wrote: »
    Haha, that's a pretty good coincidence. I was just gonna say, I wanted to try a new lance setup so I farmed Oda, crafted his lance and built up a new crit set, since I actually have some of the decos to support it.

    Oda Lance
    Dragonking Eyepatch w weakness exploit deco
    Dober Mail beta w crit boost deco
    Ingot gloves beta w health boost deco
    Oda Coil beta w elementless deco
    Dober Legs beta w crit eye deco
    Ironside Charm

    Giving me Guard 3, Weakness Exploit 3, attack boost 4, crit boost 1, crit eye 3, and health boost 3.

    Meta af probably

    Should be...95%? affinity on a weak point? The fashion is... okay for a certain sort of preference ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

    Since the crit chance is already so high, I could probably dump the theoretical augments into healing and raw damage.

    Only big problem is a lack of slots. There is no room for anything whatsoever.

    I made a set in similar vein but didn't save. It was based on teostra power so id never have to sharpen.

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    Forever ZefiroForever Zefiro cloaked in the midnight glory of an event horizonRegistered User regular
    Entaru wrote: »
    DanHibiki wrote: »
    Question about the xeno 'jiiva fight.
    Is this a joke?
    Follow up question.
    No really, is this a joke?

    Look Xeno's just weaponized the strongest move the monsters have:

    Slowly walking.

    It sucks standing behind a monster, yet its foot grazes you as it's walking away from you which sends you flying

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    TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    Or when you knock it over, and it's so tall that doing so puts it so far out of range that you can't even hit it.

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    ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    Oh a speed sharpening gem! That's not trash!

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    Forever ZefiroForever Zefiro cloaked in the midnight glory of an event horizonRegistered User regular
    Also, finally maxed out monster research for the achievement last night

    Most of my Elder grinding has been with Vaal, so I had to fight Kushala a bunch last night for research. During that time, I got like 4 Kushala gems, yet I still have 0 Vaal gems

    Thanks Rollbama

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    Forever ZefiroForever Zefiro cloaked in the midnight glory of an event horizonRegistered User regular
    Or when you knock it over, and it's so tall that doing so puts it so far out of range that you can't even hit it.

    This has become a struggle as I've been learning Hammer

    "Alright! It's knocked down, time to smash the head! Shit, it's way over there, shit my team is in the way, shit its flailing pushed me away from its head mid combo"

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    WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    Or when you knock it over, and it's so tall that doing so puts it so far out of range that you can't even hit it.

    This has become a struggle as I've been learning Hammer

    "Alright! It's knocked down, time to smash the head! Shit, it's way over there, shit my team is in the way, shit its flailing pushed me away from its head mid combo"

    Every monster has a place where it's best to stand in order to hit its head. Some are more forgiving than others! Something like Vaal or Kushala, you actually want to be standing so that you're looking down the length of their bodies; if you try to stand to one side of their head, their flailing might actually push you past them so your'e swinging at nothing.

    With Xeno, it's best to either just go for the feet or the chest, once the head is broken

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    SirialisSirialis of the Halite Throne. Registered User regular
    Is there a way to get a solid supply of Dash Extract and Nourishing Drinks or whatever that ones called?

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    BeezelBeezel There was no agreement little morsel..Registered User regular
    edited March 2018
    Sirialis wrote: »
    Is there a way to get a solid supply of Dash Extract and Nourishing Drinks or whatever that ones called?

    Palico expeditions to any place with Odogaron and I think Dodogama? Set the Argosy to bring back useable goods. Otherwise put on specimen gems and go bug hunting. This is for nourishing extracts

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    Evil MonkeyEvil Monkey Grover beachRegistered User regular
    edited March 2018
    HexDex wrote: »
    I must be doing this game so, so wrong. I am like 55 hours in, working on taking down pink rathian.

    I have no idea what my playstyle is, or even what weapon I really like.

    Working with switch axe right now, and pink rathian has me heavily considering a ranged weapon.

    I was in the same boat not sure what I liked I was swaping weapons every week finally found my fav after temp kirin so your not alone on that feeling. For rathian bring flash pods and flash bugs shoot em when he's flying.

    Evil Monkey on

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    ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited March 2018
    I saw this Gaijin Hunter tweet and realized I had all the parts to make the set, plus I had a higher earplugs charm and some better decos, so I ended up with a hell of a set, imo



    I basically added in a handicraft Jewel and three hungerless jewels so my stamina cap never drops, which is nice for both dual blades, bow, and IG. I made the enduring schisms, mostly for looks, and have been having a blast with dual blades. Works really well with both IG and DB so I'm pretty stoked

    Arch on
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    SwashbucklerXXSwashbucklerXX Swashbucklin' Canuck Registered User regular
    HexDex wrote: »
    I must be doing this game so, so wrong. I am like 55 hours in, working on taking down pink rathian.

    I have no idea what my playstyle is, or even what weapon I really like.

    Working with switch axe right now, and pink rathian has me heavily considering a ranged weapon.

    My melee strategy with Pink Rathian is to cut her tail off ASAP. She is far less deadly at close range without it. Then, yeah, flash pods or whatever for when she rages.

    Want to find me on a gaming service? I'm SwashbucklerXX everywhere.
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    ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    I stepped away to go do some tax return shopping, but I think my set has, if I recall

    5/5 earplugs
    3/3 Flinch Free
    3/3 Power Prolonger
    2/3 Health boost
    2/3 Weakness Exploit
    2/3 Critical Boost
    3/3 Hunger resistance
    1/7 Attack Boost
    1/7 Handicraft
    Xeno set bonus

    It's...pretty good. I'm pretty pleased. The skills bounce around depending on what weapon I have on (the enduring schisms only have single slots, but the Xeno Glaive has two 3-slots which is nuts and gets me to full weakness exploit and a rank of agitator, at the cost of the health boost, which I considered a good trade)

    I look...well not bad. But I'm not always the biggest fan of the Xeno armor. I love it with my full Xeno+King Beetle helm, but the wings are sometimes a bit much.

    And at least the enduring schisms look fucking SWEET

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    SeidkonaSeidkona Had an upgrade Registered User regular
    That reminds me. I need to post up some of my sets again.

    Mostly just huntin' monsters.
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    TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    Renzo wrote: »
    Earlier this week I hit the credits, jumped up straight to HR 29. Just now I did the Dual Bazel quest, jumped up to HR 47. I think I'm overdoing it with the multiple loadouts and weapons thing. Just hit 1mil zenny, though.

    I did almost exactly the same thing. I had a bow of almost every element maxed out before i beat xeno. I think I'm up to 7 or 8 bows now that finished the workshop bow last night.
    Seriously, I may have a bow problem.
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    Also, I just got the Bourgeois Hunter achievement a few minutes ago.

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    ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited March 2018
    Also, finally maxed out monster research for the achievement last night

    Most of my Elder grinding has been with Vaal, so I had to fight Kushala a bunch last night for research. During that time, I got like 4 Kushala gems, yet I still have 0 Vaal gems

    Thanks Rollbama
    I'm the other way around

    I have another five? Vaal gems after using a couple of them

    I've had to meld two Daora gems and I still need at least one more

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    Wyborn wrote: »
    Lavasioth is still a slow, tedious fight

    Even with the Brazenbreak's fire effect to keep the armor from hardening, that takes forever. I think the head actually stops being a weak point once you break it, which is... a design decision

    piscine wyverns suck

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    TNTrooperTNTrooper Registered User regular
    Piscine Wyverns need to go extinct.

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    WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    Wyborn wrote: »
    Lavasioth is still a slow, tedious fight

    Even with the Brazenbreak's fire effect to keep the armor from hardening, that takes forever. I think the head actually stops being a weak point once you break it, which is... a design decision

    piscine wyverns suck

    I don't mind Jyuratodus even! I would think Lavasioth was OK if it weren't for the fact that it takes me longer to kill than any other enemy in the game

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    Wyborn wrote: »
    Wyborn wrote: »
    Lavasioth is still a slow, tedious fight

    Even with the Brazenbreak's fire effect to keep the armor from hardening, that takes forever. I think the head actually stops being a weak point once you break it, which is... a design decision

    piscine wyverns suck

    I don't mind Jyuratodus even! I would think Lavasioth was OK if it weren't for the fact that it takes me longer to kill than any other enemy in the game

    ah but jyura is a new creature and thus made with more modern sensibilities

    lavasioth debuted in 2009

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    WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    edited March 2018
    Y'all been fighting that no-good thing with its hardening face and disappearing weak spots for a decade?

    Wyborn on
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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    it skipped third gen and didn't show up again until generations, technically

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    BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    Hooray I beat the Nergigante
    Oh... so that’s not the thing that beats the game and unlocks your rank huh
    Kinda felt like everything was building toward that guy, but ok here’s some more guys from nowhere

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    SeidkonaSeidkona Had an upgrade Registered User regular
    What is that? A crit boost deco?

    Thank you game.

    Mostly just huntin' monsters.
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    DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    Hooray I beat the Nergigante
    Oh... so that’s not the thing that beats the game and unlocks your rank huh
    Kinda felt like everything was building toward that guy, but ok here’s some more guys from nowhere

    Its a real down hill slide from here.

    Post game is great though.

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    BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    DanHibiki wrote: »
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    Hooray I beat the Nergigante
    Oh... so that’s not the thing that beats the game and unlocks your rank huh
    Kinda felt like everything was building toward that guy, but ok here’s some more guys from nowhere

    Its a real down hill slide from here.

    Meaning it is substantially easier or is it like how the infernal torment pit of hell could be considered down hill

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    DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    edited March 2018
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    DanHibiki wrote: »
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    Hooray I beat the Nergigante
    Oh... so that’s not the thing that beats the game and unlocks your rank huh
    Kinda felt like everything was building toward that guy, but ok here’s some more guys from nowhere

    Its a real down hill slide from here.

    Meaning it is substantially easier or is it like how the infernal torment pit of hell could be considered down hill

    No I mean if you got through Nerg the rest are a pushovers in comparison.
    The game should have ended with Nerg doing a demon rage on the last boss.

    Or better yet, Kirin

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    SirialisSirialis of the Halite Throne. Registered User regular
    Whats best on Diablo Clubs, affinity or damage? (affinity would make them 0% instead of minus 10%) kind of want to make the health augment in the second slot.

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    SeidkonaSeidkona Had an upgrade Registered User regular
    edited March 2018
    Now if I could just get a guard deco I could really break the game.

    Seidkona on
    Mostly just huntin' monsters.
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    BubsBubs Not Burbs ChicagoRegistered User regular
    Sirialis wrote: »
    Whats best on Diablo Clubs, affinity or damage? (affinity would make them 0% instead of minus 10%) kind of want to make the health augment in the second slot.

    What does that do, exactly? I’m not sure how crit works in this game. -10% seems bad, but 0% doesn’t seem too appealing either

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    Crit is just 25% more damage on the hit, which is nice to have but it's not a huge deal

    Because the non-elemental skill boosts the power of attack, attack is usually the best augment for diablos. You're getting a ton of affinity from skills like Weakness Exploit usually anyway

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