Feels like enemies are still bulletspongey at higher levels but player survivability have been hit hard by these Armor Kits that are just a worse version of medkits that you cant use while moving.
Seems like the talent Predatory isnt in the game anymore? I loved that one for survivability.
Preservation (5% heal over 3s, boosted by headshots) is the Predatory replacement but it feels quite weak. My favourite healing talent is the armour talent Patience (5% heal every 1s after being in cover for 3s) which makes you near immune to chip damage in pve since you will be healing constantly once you get in position. It also takes the edge off damage over time effects as well as letting you soak things without worry since you are always topped off.
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Not there yet, but without a gear set to support them I highly doubt they are going to be what you would consider viable IE constant use to be able to face tank stuff.
I saw on Reddit someone use the bigger shields with the repair drone up. He would just get hit and the drone would just immediately repair the dmg to the shield.
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Not sure if ya'll do much playing in a party but I'm rarely in a party less than 3 and holy shit does the difficulty scale up drastically. At a full 4 man they not only send more guys at you, but more elites. The reds that took 1 clip to kill solo now take 2 and a half. And if you're not paying attention, you will get flanked and destroyed fast. It's really fun. But one thing that does bug me is that some of the heavies get a little too ridiculous. 4 people dumping clips into them and they can just walk up and one shot you. They are just a bit too bullet spongy.
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Yeah I cleared 2 side missions and a control point solo'ing last night in the same time a single side mission would take in a full 4 man group.
Scaling be weird
My normal group has been leveling super slow, which is not normal, but just shows we all might be getting older finally. I'm at 24 and next is 19. Granted, just started at normal release for some of us, but still. The dumpster fire that is Anthem probably burned us out a bit. That's my excuse, admittedly.
We sauntered into the DZ as a 24, 19, 15, and 14 and had a blast in these PRE-META times. Hardly anyone was in there, though, only saw like four other people in two groups of two. One of the two groups of two knew their stuff, actually, but we still overwhelmed them.
I really like how non-contaminated high end stuff can drop (2 of 3 High Ends I got were not contaminated) to encourage you to go in without four people.
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My normal group has been leveling super slow, which is not normal, but just shows we all might be getting older finally. I'm at 24 and next is 19. Granted, just started at normal release for some of us, but still. The dumpster fire that is Anthem probably burned us out a bit. That's my excuse, admittedly.
We sauntered into the DZ as a 24, 19, 15, and 14 and had a blast in these PRE-META times. Hardly anyone was in there, though, only saw like four other people in two groups of two. One of the two groups of two knew their stuff, actually, but we still overwhelmed them.
I really like how non-contaminated high end stuff can drop (2 of 3 High Ends I got were not contaminated) to encourage you to go in without four people.
Yeah I enjoy that a lot of the drops you get in the DZ are just drops. Like its a great place at max level to upgrade yourself at a new tier without getting frustrated (I wish I'd thought of this when I hit tier 4 because jesus tier 4 is a jump and a level 3 control point is equivalent to "challenging" as far as difficulty so enemies are way bullet spongey and they send a lot at you).
I do believe they direly need to adjust scaling/enemy health. Like tier 4 4 man group "tank" characters are ridiculous. Especially the sledge hammer guys the outcast use, like its not fun gameplay to sit there and dodge around a dude who can one shot you while being shot at and seemingly unable to do very little damage to their overall armor, on top of the fact that my skills are not reliable which makes using things like turrets or drones which should in theory be there to help with this shit not there at all.
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I’m a tiny bit hesitant to judge the bullet sponge characteristics of enemies pre-WT5 and sets being in the game, but I generally agree with all of the complaints about the scaling in groups.
I’m at current max gear score and I almost always solo because the content is just so much more fun that way. That’s not a great state of play.
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Zavianuniversal peace sounds better than forever warRegistered Userregular
I sent a join request to the PS4 PAX clan as Zavian2099. I'm enjoying Division 2 so far, some missions are difficult solo but matchmaking with a team hasn't failed me so far. I've been avoiding doing any side missions until lvl 30 as that's what a bunch of YouTube tips videos told me. Also, LMGs seem pretty beast if you have a 100 magazine one
Marco of griefer fame now... Suggested holding on doing side quests until your mid teens to level up faster since main story missions don't scale their exp but side missions do and side missions are worth about a third of a level each time you do them. I wouldn't know why you'd wait on them till max level for loot that seems silly there are so many ways to get loot.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
Marco of griefer fame now... Suggested holding on doing side quests until your mid teens to level up faster since main story missions don't scale their exp but side missions do and side missions are worth about a third of a level each time you do them. I wouldn't know why you'd wait on them till max level for loot that seems silly there are so many ways to get loot.
Not really sure that's even accurate as the reward from one of the story missions has continually increased. I think one is 100k now, it was 70k before.
The only things that haven't scaled XP wise for me have been projects.
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I sent a join request to the PS4 PAX clan as Zavian2099. I'm enjoying Division 2 so far, some missions are difficult solo but matchmaking with a team hasn't failed me so far. I've been avoiding doing any side missions until lvl 30 as that's what a bunch of YouTube tips videos told me. Also, LMGs seem pretty beast if you have a 100 magazine one
I will take care of it when I get home if someone else doesnt get to it first.
Marco of griefer fame now... Suggested holding on doing side quests until your mid teens to level up faster since main story missions don't scale their exp but side missions do and side missions are worth about a third of a level each time you do them. I wouldn't know why you'd wait on them till max level for loot that seems silly there are so many ways to get loot.
Not really sure that's even accurate as the reward from one of the story missions has continually increased. I think one is 100k now, it was 70k before.
The only things that haven't scaled XP wise for me have been projects.
That was actually one of the things I think they patched last week was that main missions scaled just like side missions.
Marco of griefer fame now... Suggested holding on doing side quests until your mid teens to level up faster since main story missions don't scale their exp but side missions do and side missions are worth about a third of a level each time you do them. I wouldn't know why you'd wait on them till max level for loot that seems silly there are so many ways to get loot.
Not really sure that's even accurate as the reward from one of the story missions has continually increased. I think one is 100k now, it was 70k before.
The only things that haven't scaled XP wise for me have been projects.
They might have changed that then. Because at "early access" or whatever they called the gold period story missions had set exp.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
They did. Probably should have added "anymore" but IDK when they posted that video or whatever was being used to advise not doing it.
Unfortunately, that now means this game has the slow pace doing everything up to mid level and then rocket to max if you're doing everything. Although the enemy damage also seems to be keeping up, in that it enemies that are at -2 levels can still hurt me and I don't just one shot everything (unless stacked headshot damage sniping), and OH GOD THE SCALING IS BROKEN AND POINTLESS AND THEN NUMBERS ARE MEANINGLESS IS THIS THE ANTHEM REDDIT/THREAD? :hydra:
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Zavianuniversal peace sounds better than forever warRegistered Userregular
Well scaling in this does feel broken at end game. Like I was doing a challenging mission last night on roosevelt and it just felt bad to be getting bullied by red bar or yellow enemies who can rush you in the open because you can not damage them enough fast enough. apparently its related to 4 man groups or something? But seriously like the skills not working or skill mods being broken ubisoft needs to at least respond and be like "yeah we know this feels like shit"
My hope is like challenging is balanced around tier 5? And when that releases enemies will go back to being easier to take down and more in line with player health, because as it stands right now its like challenging in division 1 with less ability to counter enemies/heal allies.
Also I don't know if exotic drops are broken or I'm the unluckiest fuck at all but I haven't gotten a single one yet at all and I've been in the range to potentially see them since thursday and easily put in I want to say twenty hours at that content level without seeing any exotic drops. I can't even upgrade the starter ones they give you because I didn't upgrade them earlier and I don't have the pieces to do it now or something? i have no idea.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
There's been two patches since then, one on the 14th then one on the 16th.
I'm also only level 10, forgive my ignorant n00b ways. I haven't had any problems really just doing main missions and control points so far, but nice to know I can dive into side missions
Well scaling in this does feel broken at end game. Like I was doing a challenging mission last night on roosevelt and it just felt bad to be getting bullied by red bar or yellow enemies who can rush you in the open because you can not damage them enough fast enough. apparently its related to 4 man groups or something? But seriously like the skills not working or skill mods being broken ubisoft needs to at least respond and be like "yeah we know this feels like shit"
My hope is like challenging is balanced around tier 5? And when that releases enemies will go back to being easier to take down and more in line with player health, because as it stands right now its like challenging in division 1 with less ability to counter enemies/heal allies.
Also I don't know if exotic drops are broken or I'm the unluckiest fuck at all but I haven't gotten a single one yet at all and I've been in the range to potentially see them since thursday and easily put in I want to say twenty hours at that content level without seeing any exotic drops. I can't even upgrade the starter ones they give you because I didn't upgrade them earlier and I don't have the pieces to do it now or something? i have no idea.
If it works like the mod printer filament... you have to dismantle an exotic to get the exotic thing... similar to Destiny.
[Skills] Certain skills will self-destruct within a short period and go on cooldown.
Status: Fix in the works
There's probably a tweet or two out there too? IDK, but they know and there's a fix on the way.
Well scaling in this does feel broken at end game. Like I was doing a challenging mission last night on roosevelt and it just felt bad to be getting bullied by red bar or yellow enemies who can rush you in the open because you can not damage them enough fast enough. apparently its related to 4 man groups or something? But seriously like the skills not working or skill mods being broken ubisoft needs to at least respond and be like "yeah we know this feels like shit"
My hope is like challenging is balanced around tier 5? And when that releases enemies will go back to being easier to take down and more in line with player health, because as it stands right now its like challenging in division 1 with less ability to counter enemies/heal allies.
Also I don't know if exotic drops are broken or I'm the unluckiest fuck at all but I haven't gotten a single one yet at all and I've been in the range to potentially see them since thursday and easily put in I want to say twenty hours at that content level without seeing any exotic drops. I can't even upgrade the starter ones they give you because I didn't upgrade them earlier and I don't have the pieces to do it now or something? i have no idea.
If it works like the mod printer filament... you have to dismantle an exotic to get the exotic thing... similar to Destiny.
[Skills] Certain skills will self-destruct within a short period and go on cooldown.
Status: Fix in the works
There's probably a tweet or two out there too? IDK, but they know and there's a fix on the way.
Also hope they don't fix this because it's so amusing and surreal:
[NPC] NPC’s may sometimes fly into the air when killed.
Status: Improvements made, ongoing work to resolve any remaining issues.
Its beyond needing an exotic mat I think one of the requirements is having a leveled up version of that gun to get to a max level but how the fuck would I have that if I can't get it to level up in the first place
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
Yeah they've been working on this one the whole time. Hopefully they get a fix in soon because generally not being able to trust most of the skills in the game is a pretty big downer.
Also hope they don't fix this because it's so amusing and surreal:
[NPC] NPC’s may sometimes fly into the air when killed.
Status: Improvements made, ongoing work to resolve any remaining issues.
Only if by "improvements made" do they mean "NPCs will now always fly into the air when killed will I find this acceptable.
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I've just been solo so far, though grouping would be really fun if someone was in the same level range. I think I moved in to the fourth area after knocking out all the main and side missions, control points, and other random crap, and I think I'm sitting at level 11 or 12. The pacing feels really good to me so far. Only real struggle is that I've had this same sniper rifle for a while and it's not OHK headshots anymore.
Also is it just not having enough of the mods to use yet or are LMGs just generally better than assault rifles? So far they all look to have similar damage, RoF, and falloff, but they have a substantially larger magazine with only a marginally slower reload (which I can improve with a mod right now).
I've just been solo so far, though grouping would be really fun if someone was in the same level range. I think I moved in to the fourth area after knocking out all the main and side missions, control points, and other random crap, and I think I'm sitting at level 11 or 12. The pacing feels really good to me so far. Only real struggle is that I've had this same sniper rifle for a while and it's not OHK headshots anymore.
Also is it just not having enough of the mods to use yet or are LMGs just generally better than assault rifles? So far they all look to have similar damage, RoF, and falloff, but they have a substantially larger magazine with only a marginally slower reload (which I can improve with a mod right now).
The AR bonus to health damage feels way better to me than the LMG bonus to targets out of cover. But I just prefer the look and feel of the AR's to the LMGs
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
Also for me LMG's tend to like keep you trapped longer in a given position to deal dps, versus the AR feeling you can get similar dps faster.
And preacher pro tip A PPP if you will. For those doing the ubisoft club challenge for pistol kills go to a normalized dark zone, your pistol can kill red bar enemies in a couple shots.
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For me, LMG use is pretty situational, whereas assault rifle use is kinda universal. What I mean is that, to really utilize the LMG to its maximum potential, you need targets to be out of cover. This pretty much means that it's really only going to be used to its strengths when the baddies are rushing you. Which means it's perfect for the Supply Drop activity. Compare that to the assault rifle where it's doing its bonus regardless of enemy behavior/cover.
Also, using the 5.56 extended magazine helps bring the assault rifle up to LMG ammo capacities (especially if you manage to get one with a stacked +20% magazine capacity boost...it's nice having 74 assault rifle rounds between reloads).
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For me, LMG use is pretty situational, whereas assault rifle use is kinda universal. What I mean is that, to really utilize the LMG to its maximum potential, you need targets to be out of cover. This pretty much means that it's really only going to be used to its strengths when the baddies are rushing you. Which means it's perfect for the Supply Drop activity. Compare that to the assault rifle where it's doing its bonus regardless of enemy behavior/cover.
Also, using the 5.56 extended magazine helps bring the assault rifle up to LMG ammo capacities (especially if you manage to get one with a stacked +20% magazine capacity boost...it's nice having 74 assault rifle rounds between reloads).
The extended mag's downside is actually another positive to me since it reduces ROF which seemingly keeps the gun more accurate when I'm firing!
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
Also for me LMG's tend to like keep you trapped longer in a given position to deal dps, versus the AR feeling you can get similar dps faster.
And preacher pro tip A PPP if you will. For those doing the ubisoft club challenge for pistol kills go to a normalized dark zone, your pistol can kill red bar enemies in a couple shots.
LMGs are great in teams, because the suppression effect does wonders for letting your teammates flank and use grenades. Playing solo, and their downsides rack up. Reload speed alone will get you killed a lot.
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This just shows how little I actually know about this game XD
Well scaling in this does feel broken at end game. Like I was doing a challenging mission last night on roosevelt and it just felt bad to be getting bullied by red bar or yellow enemies who can rush you in the open because you can not damage them enough fast enough. apparently its related to 4 man groups or something? But seriously like the skills not working or skill mods being broken ubisoft needs to at least respond and be like "yeah we know this feels like shit"
My hope is like challenging is balanced around tier 5? And when that releases enemies will go back to being easier to take down and more in line with player health, because as it stands right now its like challenging in division 1 with less ability to counter enemies/heal allies.
Also I don't know if exotic drops are broken or I'm the unluckiest fuck at all but I haven't gotten a single one yet at all and I've been in the range to potentially see them since thursday and easily put in I want to say twenty hours at that content level without seeing any exotic drops. I can't even upgrade the starter ones they give you because I didn't upgrade them earlier and I don't have the pieces to do it now or something? i have no idea.
The biggest disappoint for me scaling-wise so far has been the starting damage of the specialization weapons. Ammo isn't as rare/scarce as it was in the demo events, but it's still rare enough that I hold onto it a lot and get annoyed at how many shots it takes to break through armor on Challenging yellow enemies.
Admittedly, I haven't sunk the specialization points into the bonus damage skill yet because it's so damned expensive. That's what I'm working on next.
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Preservation (5% heal over 3s, boosted by headshots) is the Predatory replacement but it feels quite weak. My favourite healing talent is the armour talent Patience (5% heal every 1s after being in cover for 3s) which makes you near immune to chip damage in pve since you will be healing constantly once you get in position. It also takes the edge off damage over time effects as well as letting you soak things without worry since you are always topped off.
I’m not 30 yet.
Not there yet, but without a gear set to support them I highly doubt they are going to be what you would consider viable IE constant use to be able to face tank stuff.
I'll leave PA2 and join WB tonight, the OP should be updated as well.
I saw on Reddit someone use the bigger shields with the repair drone up. He would just get hit and the drone would just immediately repair the dmg to the shield.
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Scaling be weird
We sauntered into the DZ as a 24, 19, 15, and 14 and had a blast in these PRE-META times. Hardly anyone was in there, though, only saw like four other people in two groups of two. One of the two groups of two knew their stuff, actually, but we still overwhelmed them.
I really like how non-contaminated high end stuff can drop (2 of 3 High Ends I got were not contaminated) to encourage you to go in without four people.
PSN: Bizazedo
CFN: Bizazedo (I don't think I suck, add me).
Yeah I enjoy that a lot of the drops you get in the DZ are just drops. Like its a great place at max level to upgrade yourself at a new tier without getting frustrated (I wish I'd thought of this when I hit tier 4 because jesus tier 4 is a jump and a level 3 control point is equivalent to "challenging" as far as difficulty so enemies are way bullet spongey and they send a lot at you).
I do believe they direly need to adjust scaling/enemy health. Like tier 4 4 man group "tank" characters are ridiculous. Especially the sledge hammer guys the outcast use, like its not fun gameplay to sit there and dodge around a dude who can one shot you while being shot at and seemingly unable to do very little damage to their overall armor, on top of the fact that my skills are not reliable which makes using things like turrets or drones which should in theory be there to help with this shit not there at all.
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I’m at current max gear score and I almost always solo because the content is just so much more fun that way. That’s not a great state of play.
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The loot you get is scaled, so you would get max lvl loot apparently that way
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Not really sure that's even accurate as the reward from one of the story missions has continually increased. I think one is 100k now, it was 70k before.
The only things that haven't scaled XP wise for me have been projects.
I will take care of it when I get home if someone else doesnt get to it first.
That was actually one of the things I think they patched last week was that main missions scaled just like side missions.
They might have changed that then. Because at "early access" or whatever they called the gold period story missions had set exp.
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Unfortunately, that now means this game has the slow pace doing everything up to mid level and then rocket to max if you're doing everything. Although the enemy damage also seems to be keeping up, in that it enemies that are at -2 levels can still hurt me and I don't just one shot everything (unless stacked headshot damage sniping), and OH GOD THE SCALING IS BROKEN AND POINTLESS AND THEN NUMBERS ARE MEANINGLESS IS THIS THE ANTHEM REDDIT/THREAD? :hydra:
There's been two patches since then, one on the 14th then one on the 16th.
My hope is like challenging is balanced around tier 5? And when that releases enemies will go back to being easier to take down and more in line with player health, because as it stands right now its like challenging in division 1 with less ability to counter enemies/heal allies.
Also I don't know if exotic drops are broken or I'm the unluckiest fuck at all but I haven't gotten a single one yet at all and I've been in the range to potentially see them since thursday and easily put in I want to say twenty hours at that content level without seeing any exotic drops. I can't even upgrade the starter ones they give you because I didn't upgrade them earlier and I don't have the pieces to do it now or something? i have no idea.
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I'm also only level 10, forgive my ignorant n00b ways. I haven't had any problems really just doing main missions and control points so far, but nice to know I can dive into side missions
If it works like the mod printer filament... you have to dismantle an exotic to get the exotic thing... similar to Destiny.
There's probably a tweet or two out there too? IDK, but they know and there's a fix on the way.
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Also hope they don't fix this because it's so amusing and surreal:
Its beyond needing an exotic mat I think one of the requirements is having a leveled up version of that gun to get to a max level but how the fuck would I have that if I can't get it to level up in the first place
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Only if by "improvements made" do they mean "NPCs will now always fly into the air when killed will I find this acceptable.
Also is it just not having enough of the mods to use yet or are LMGs just generally better than assault rifles? So far they all look to have similar damage, RoF, and falloff, but they have a substantially larger magazine with only a marginally slower reload (which I can improve with a mod right now).
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The AR bonus to health damage feels way better to me than the LMG bonus to targets out of cover. But I just prefer the look and feel of the AR's to the LMGs
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And preacher pro tip A PPP if you will. For those doing the ubisoft club challenge for pistol kills go to a normalized dark zone, your pistol can kill red bar enemies in a couple shots.
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wish I had it like 10 levels earlier when i could appreciate all them purps
Also, using the 5.56 extended magazine helps bring the assault rifle up to LMG ammo capacities (especially if you manage to get one with a stacked +20% magazine capacity boost...it's nice having 74 assault rifle rounds between reloads).
The extended mag's downside is actually another positive to me since it reduces ROF which seemingly keeps the gun more accurate when I'm firing!
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LMGs are great in teams, because the suppression effect does wonders for letting your teammates flank and use grenades. Playing solo, and their downsides rack up. Reload speed alone will get you killed a lot.
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The biggest disappoint for me scaling-wise so far has been the starting damage of the specialization weapons. Ammo isn't as rare/scarce as it was in the demo events, but it's still rare enough that I hold onto it a lot and get annoyed at how many shots it takes to break through armor on Challenging yellow enemies.
Admittedly, I haven't sunk the specialization points into the bonus damage skill yet because it's so damned expensive. That's what I'm working on next.