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I'm so glad it is over. I hope they never play the sequels. I also can't stand how Arin complained at the end about hating missing stuff after he actively skipped stuff during the game.
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I'm so glad it is over. I hope they never play the sequels.
They say near the end of the video that they will most definitely play the sequels eventually (but not for a while). Arin especially complained about the gameplay a lot, but they were both legitimately into the story (especially Dan) and are curious where it goes.
I'm so glad it is over. I hope they never play the sequels.
They say near the end of the video that they will most definitely play the sequels eventually (but not for a while). Arin especially complained about the gameplay a lot, but they were both legitimately into the story (especially Dan) and are curious where it goes.
I also can't stand how Arin complained at the end about hating missing stuff after he actively skipped stuff during the game.
This was weird. He actively ignored free time for the most part but then says this?
Yea, Arin saying they plan to play the second one really bummed me out. He also mentioned it on his live stream for opening magic cards that they plan to do the second game. I can still dream though.
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What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
I enjoyed the Danganronpa playthrough, but I'm also glad it's over.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
I enjoyed the Danganronpa playthrough, but I'm also glad it's over.
The game gets REALLY long in the tooth by the end.
You know how it’s gonna end hours before it actually does and you’re just. Fucking. Waiting.
I would much rather they finish playing the Ace Attorney series.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Also yes, they missed the alternate ending. But they missed it a while back.
When you have a chance to expose Kyoko’s lie, if you choose to do it you get to see the alternate future where you and the survivors stay at the school for life.
Aoi has kids with all the boys and Toko commits suicide, apparently.
Then it goes back and you say “No, that’s wrong” and you redo the choice and don’t betray Kyoko
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
I enjoyed the Danganronpa playthrough, but I'm also glad it's over.
The game gets REALLY long in the tooth by the end.
You know how it’s gonna end hours before it actually does and you’re just. Fucking. Waiting.
I would much rather they finish playing the Ace Attorney series.
There's a few things I think the game does better, but honestly the anime adaptation is more appealing to me because the characters in general are more intelligent and have more agency, you don't get Makoto's over-the-top internal monologue, and it lets you focus on the story and not have to solve a word puzzle or a rhythm game or whatever.
Anyway...
The Grumps continuing with the games themselves has a problem; the story of the characters from the original game is expanded upon and concludes in anime form, not the games.
Also, after having just browsed the TVTropes page for Danganronpa V3, I've discovered that the plot of the third game gets fucking bizarre.
If you think I'm exaggerating I am most certainly not. I am frankly impressed by the balls the games makers' had to do what they did.
Danganronpa V3 Really Major Spoilers (No, Seriously, These Are Huge)
The story of Danganronpa V3 initially starts out like the original Danganronpa...because in this game's setting the original Danganronpa was just a game. The twist is that Danganronpa got so popular that it spawned a Truman Show-esque reality show where teenagers volunteer to be mindwiped, implanted with false "Ultimate" personalities that live up to the personalities of the original (fictional, in this game) Danganronpa characters, and become the newest cast of Danganronpa. Like in the first Danganronpa the killing game has an audience, but this time the outside world is not only fine, but so free of troubles that people are bored out of their minds, and the audience is made-up of fans watching the fifty-third installment of Danganronpa to get their fix of excitement in their peaceful-yet-dull lives (in fact, the V in V3 is actually the Roman numeral for 5, meaning the game's true title is Danganronpa 53). One of the characters is even a robot whose actions are determined by a poll of the audience. The finale has the surviving characters decide that the true Mastermind is the audience itself, who desire ever more installments of Danganronpa to entertain them. They refuse to fill the now traditional roles of Ultimate Hope and Ultimate Despair and realize the only way to stop Danganronpa is to disappoint the audience with the most unsatisfying ending possible and make them lose all interest in the franchise forever. Like, you know all those minigames in the trials in the first one? To get the true ending of Danganronpa V3 you have to deliberately not play them and let time run out. The "final boss" of the game is a flood of angry comments from the Danganronpa fanbase channeled through the audience-participation robot that you have to argue against.
Oh, also? The ending of the game is ambiguous about all of the above being true and everything you just read might be a lie in the setting of the game. The main characters never get their true memories and personalities back.
Understandably, a significant section of the Danganronpa fanbase was put off by Danganronpa V3 setting up fans of Danganronpa themselves as the final enemy of the entire franchise.
If the Grumps do play another Danganronpa I think they should just skip to this one for the sheer mindfuckery.
EDIT: Thinking on it more, I get the feeling that the creators intended for the games to go in a different direction, but that the powers-that-be advised them not to stray too far from the precedent set by the first game and to meet fan expectations. This led to the story of the original Danganronpa and its characters concluding in anime form as opposed to games, and also to Danganronpa V3 being what I described.
I've also decided that I've GOT to watch the other Danganronpa anime series now, seeing as they may actually be truer to the original vision for the series.
I wonder if there's a deep dive video on YouTube that goes into all of this? This feels like something that surely exists.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
In response to a conversation during today’s episode
The best definitions I have heard for introvert/extrovert are
Introvert: recharges by being alone
Extrovert: recharges by being around people
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
EDIT: Thinking on it more, I get the feeling that the creators intended for the games to go in a different direction, but that the powers-that-be advised them not to stray too far from the precedent set by the first game and to meet fan expectations. This led to the story of the original Danganronpa and its characters concluding in anime form as opposed to games, and also to Danganronpa V3 being what I described.
If memory serves...
There's a story out there where the writers couldn't decide on what way to go with the third game. Some wanted to make more of the same, the others wanted to make something new.
They compromised and went with "both at the same time." And it's pretty brilliant. In case anyone missed it, even Yoko Taro had it on his personal GOTY list that year.
Although the trailer in the recent Direct may have let it drop that it's a bit of a bait and switch, since the "death game" the kids are being forced into gets cancelled right away, and the cast has to figure out how in the hell to actually get *out* of this facility.
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Kai_SanCommonly known as Klineshrike!Registered Userregular
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wow Arin really hit his stride in that episide.
It would make sense that Starbomb would be the level he absolutely destroys. It's not easy at all, and has a LOT of little things you can do to mess it up. Somehow Arin did everything RIGHT on that one.
Also, the reaction to GIANT MAN was as good as expected.
We are so close to World 6 and that one is easily the best.
weirdly the algorithm recommended me that very first video on the Egoraptor YT channel earlier today I think right after the episode dropped.
wild how quick this almighty AI world serpent works.
My guess is everyone went to go check it out.
more than likely that is it but it was a bit weird to see late teenage Arin in a thumbnail with 14 years ago under it with no context until i got to the video and then i'm like oh damn that video musta gotten hammered by hits and got spat back on the feeds.
"Grip 'em up, grip 'em, grip 'em good, said the Gryphon... to the pig."
Oh god. Why would Arin do this to himself? Nothing good can come of this. For Arin. I'm probably going to enjoy the schoodyfroody quite a lot.
At this point I'd like to share the "Ross's Game Dungeon" episode on Sonic Heroes (no, not that Ross, but you may recognize this Ross as the guy who does Freeman's Mind):
Yes its an hour long, but well worth watching, or at least putting on as background noise while you do something else, you don't really need the visuals to get the point. In it, he coins the term "Gamer Dementia" which, having played Sonic Heroes myself quite a lot, is a perfect description of what this game does to your brain. TLDR; sometimes controls or game elements just don't work, or don't work the same way twice when as far as you can tell you did exactly the same thing both times. This leads you to start doubting yourself; did I press the wrong button? Is my memory wrong and this section always worked like this? No. You're not insane, the game is just buggy as fuck no matter what system you play it on. One of the major culprits is that for some reason the game insists on using the same two buttons for everything, so the buttons often do double or triple or quadruple duty. You press "B" to activate Sonic's whirlwind thingy that lets you go up the flag poles, but you also press B to grind the nearest rail, or to do the "light speed dash" which lets you follow along a mid-air trail of rings. So what happens if you press B in midair and you're near a flag pole, a rail and a trail of rings? Fucked if I know, probably you get catapulted off into space. Which leads to the other problem Heroes has; about 50% of the stages are suspended a million feet in the air for no reason, and kill you instantly if you fall off at any point, regardless of how many rings you were carrying. There are also the long rail-grinding sections which gave Arin a lot of trouble, and only through trial and error did I discover that if you hold left or right and tap jump you can just hop straight to an adjacent rail without having to worry about sticking the landing. Mostly. Again, sometimes it will catapult you off to your death for no reason; Gamer dementia! Of course at no point does the game tell you that you can do this, so when I see Arin trying to carefully line up his jumps with a rail so that he doesn't fall to his death, it pains me... but I also don't blame him in the slightest because that was me.
Watching their original playthrough unlocked some deeply repressed memories and made me go from "Sonic Heroes was on okay game, I don't get why people hate on it so much" to "Oh that's right, because its a garbage game that gaslights you into thinking that you're the one that's broken". This combined with Arin's tendency to blame the game when he's actually at fault for things he genuinely does wrong makes this game a perfect storm for inducing a total mental breakdown in our favorite video game boy. I'm not a religious man, but I will pray for you, Arin.
At least Team Rose is the "easy" team; another thing the game doesn't make immediately obvious. He should have less trouble with their campaign than Team Sonic's, but if he's thinking of attempting either of the other two... oof...
The correct way to play Heroes is to stick to the flying formation unless it forces you to do otherwise, then quickly switch back afterwards. Because flying formation is the only one with a chance to save itself when the game yeets you off the nearest edge, which it does CONSTANTLY, on every level. I haven't played '06, but Heroes sucks out loud.
sorta, they uploaded the first episode of this series again but with today's title and thumbnail at the regular time then took it down and reuploaded the correct ep at around 12 PST
"Grip 'em up, grip 'em, grip 'em good, said the Gryphon... to the pig."
sorta, they uploaded the first episode of this series again but with today's title and thumbnail at the regular time then took it down and reuploaded the correct ep at around 12 PST
Ahhh that makes sense. Need more Sonic Heroes goodness in my eyes.
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I know that they wanted to be absolutely sure they were in person to record those. Ross mentioned it in his stream of Mattpat playing the world yesterday and he thinks that might have been it. They might have ended a session and then had some issue getting back in person again for the next one.
Mattpat finished the world yesterday. He absolutely went beastmode on World 7 and did well above par on World 8 as well. Just seeing him play World 8 makes me think that if Arin ever gets there, it might be over a 50% chance he flat out HAS to call it quits at some point with that. Those levels are stupid hard.
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Me at 2 minutes “man, there is no way Arin spends the whole 40 minutes on Egg Emperor”
Me at 20 minutes: .......
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This is a random ass question, but does anyone remember what episode of Super Mario Bros 3 it was where Danny yelled at Arin, "What are you FUCKING DOING?!"
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This is a random ass question, but does anyone remember what episode of Super Mario Bros 3 it was where Danny yelled at Arin, "What are you FUCKING DOING?!"
I can remember the situation, it was a fortress, where you go up a conveyor and there's a mushroom in ? block that you cannot get if it is a mushroom and not a leaf, and he dies like three or four times doing the exact same thing and i just googled that and
The entire latest episode I was trying to remember where I knew Rouge's voice actor from, then I realized.
She's goddamn Nancy Drew.
damn you could MISSED that, then looked again and then MISSED it, got tired had a popsicle and looked again MISSED it
"Grip 'em up, grip 'em, grip 'em good, said the Gryphon... to the pig."
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
This is your friendly reminder that E-123 Omega canonically weighs 2712.82 lb.
And Rouge is carrying him like he's a fruit basket.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
I always liked Omega more than any of the other "power" characters simply because while they mostly make generic grunty combat sounds he's all "ANNIHILATE! ANNIHILATION! KILL! ANNIHILATE! DIE! WORTHLESS CONSUMER MODELS!"
He's just so hilariously angry, all the time.
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Kai_SanCommonly known as Klineshrike!Registered Userregular
Arin : You can't do a spin jump off the wall!
Oh boy, that's going to come back to haunt him when a level in world 7 literally makes you do this to proceed. There are instructions in the background to guide you to do so, but we all know how that will go!
I was worried that Arin was going to struggle with the volleyball level, but it went pretty well. I'm glad, because I always thought the concept behind that one was really neat.
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Kai_SanCommonly known as Klineshrike!Registered Userregular
Also Meltdown Mountain is one of Ross' best levels in my opinion. Looks really nice, is a generally challenging but fair platformer, no weird tricks. The boss is a little whacky but still solid.
The final level of the Ice World is really good as well.
Actually surprising that in a few levels they will be playing Dan's level. He only has to finish 3 more.
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They say near the end of the video that they will most definitely play the sequels eventually (but not for a while). Arin especially complained about the gameplay a lot, but they were both legitimately into the story (especially Dan) and are curious where it goes.
This was weird. He actively ignored free time for the most part but then says this?
Yea, Arin saying they plan to play the second one really bummed me out. He also mentioned it on his live stream for opening magic cards that they plan to do the second game. I can still dream though.
What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
The game gets REALLY long in the tooth by the end.
You know how it’s gonna end hours before it actually does and you’re just. Fucking. Waiting.
I would much rather they finish playing the Ace Attorney series.
Aoi has kids with all the boys and Toko commits suicide, apparently.
Then it goes back and you say “No, that’s wrong” and you redo the choice and don’t betray Kyoko
There's a few things I think the game does better, but honestly the anime adaptation is more appealing to me because the characters in general are more intelligent and have more agency, you don't get Makoto's over-the-top internal monologue, and it lets you focus on the story and not have to solve a word puzzle or a rhythm game or whatever.
Anyway...
The Grumps continuing with the games themselves has a problem; the story of the characters from the original game is expanded upon and concludes in anime form, not the games.
Also, after having just browsed the TVTropes page for Danganronpa V3, I've discovered that the plot of the third game gets fucking bizarre.
If you think I'm exaggerating I am most certainly not. I am frankly impressed by the balls the games makers' had to do what they did.
Danganronpa V3 Really Major Spoilers (No, Seriously, These Are Huge)
Oh, also? The ending of the game is ambiguous about all of the above being true and everything you just read might be a lie in the setting of the game. The main characters never get their true memories and personalities back.
Understandably, a significant section of the Danganronpa fanbase was put off by Danganronpa V3 setting up fans of Danganronpa themselves as the final enemy of the entire franchise.
If the Grumps do play another Danganronpa I think they should just skip to this one for the sheer mindfuckery.
EDIT: Thinking on it more, I get the feeling that the creators intended for the games to go in a different direction, but that the powers-that-be advised them not to stray too far from the precedent set by the first game and to meet fan expectations. This led to the story of the original Danganronpa and its characters concluding in anime form as opposed to games, and also to Danganronpa V3 being what I described.
I've also decided that I've GOT to watch the other Danganronpa anime series now, seeing as they may actually be truer to the original vision for the series.
I wonder if there's a deep dive video on YouTube that goes into all of this? This feels like something that surely exists.
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Introvert: recharges by being alone
Extrovert: recharges by being around people
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Okay that made me guffaw, thank you.
Arin's reaction to the thing was so fucking funny!
If memory serves...
They compromised and went with "both at the same time." And it's pretty brilliant. In case anyone missed it, even Yoko Taro had it on his personal GOTY list that year.
The writers & devs have a new game coming out in May, World's End Club, which may seem a little familiar...
https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/worlds-end-club-switch/
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It would make sense that Starbomb would be the level he absolutely destroys. It's not easy at all, and has a LOT of little things you can do to mess it up. Somehow Arin did everything RIGHT on that one.
Also, the reaction to GIANT MAN was as good as expected.
We are so close to World 6 and that one is easily the best.
wild how quick this almighty AI world serpent works.
My guess is everyone went to go check it out.
more than likely that is it but it was a bit weird to see late teenage Arin in a thumbnail with 14 years ago under it with no context until i got to the video and then i'm like oh damn that video musta gotten hammered by hits and got spat back on the feeds.
Oh god. Why would Arin do this to himself? Nothing good can come of this. For Arin. I'm probably going to enjoy the schoodyfroody quite a lot.
At this point I'd like to share the "Ross's Game Dungeon" episode on Sonic Heroes (no, not that Ross, but you may recognize this Ross as the guy who does Freeman's Mind):
Yes its an hour long, but well worth watching, or at least putting on as background noise while you do something else, you don't really need the visuals to get the point. In it, he coins the term "Gamer Dementia" which, having played Sonic Heroes myself quite a lot, is a perfect description of what this game does to your brain. TLDR; sometimes controls or game elements just don't work, or don't work the same way twice when as far as you can tell you did exactly the same thing both times. This leads you to start doubting yourself; did I press the wrong button? Is my memory wrong and this section always worked like this? No. You're not insane, the game is just buggy as fuck no matter what system you play it on. One of the major culprits is that for some reason the game insists on using the same two buttons for everything, so the buttons often do double or triple or quadruple duty. You press "B" to activate Sonic's whirlwind thingy that lets you go up the flag poles, but you also press B to grind the nearest rail, or to do the "light speed dash" which lets you follow along a mid-air trail of rings. So what happens if you press B in midair and you're near a flag pole, a rail and a trail of rings? Fucked if I know, probably you get catapulted off into space. Which leads to the other problem Heroes has; about 50% of the stages are suspended a million feet in the air for no reason, and kill you instantly if you fall off at any point, regardless of how many rings you were carrying. There are also the long rail-grinding sections which gave Arin a lot of trouble, and only through trial and error did I discover that if you hold left or right and tap jump you can just hop straight to an adjacent rail without having to worry about sticking the landing. Mostly. Again, sometimes it will catapult you off to your death for no reason; Gamer dementia! Of course at no point does the game tell you that you can do this, so when I see Arin trying to carefully line up his jumps with a rail so that he doesn't fall to his death, it pains me... but I also don't blame him in the slightest because that was me.
Watching their original playthrough unlocked some deeply repressed memories and made me go from "Sonic Heroes was on okay game, I don't get why people hate on it so much" to "Oh that's right, because its a garbage game that gaslights you into thinking that you're the one that's broken". This combined with Arin's tendency to blame the game when he's actually at fault for things he genuinely does wrong makes this game a perfect storm for inducing a total mental breakdown in our favorite video game boy. I'm not a religious man, but I will pray for you, Arin.
At least Team Rose is the "easy" team; another thing the game doesn't make immediately obvious. He should have less trouble with their campaign than Team Sonic's, but if he's thinking of attempting either of the other two... oof...
sorta, they uploaded the first episode of this series again but with today's title and thumbnail at the regular time then took it down and reuploaded the correct ep at around 12 PST
Ahhh that makes sense. Need more Sonic Heroes goodness in my eyes.
Mattpat finished the world yesterday. He absolutely went beastmode on World 7 and did well above par on World 8 as well. Just seeing him play World 8 makes me think that if Arin ever gets there, it might be over a 50% chance he flat out HAS to call it quits at some point with that. Those levels are stupid hard.
I can remember the situation, it was a fortress, where you go up a conveyor and there's a mushroom in ? block that you cannot get if it is a mushroom and not a leaf, and he dies like three or four times doing the exact same thing and i just googled that and
She's goddamn Nancy Drew.
damn you could MISSED that, then looked again and then MISSED it, got tired had a popsicle and looked again MISSED it
And Rouge is carrying him like he's a fruit basket.
He's just so hilariously angry, all the time.
Oh boy, that's going to come back to haunt him when a level in world 7 literally makes you do this to proceed. There are instructions in the background to guide you to do so, but we all know how that will go!
The final level of the Ice World is really good as well.
Actually surprising that in a few levels they will be playing Dan's level. He only has to finish 3 more.