Hey guys, managed to claw my way back up to Rank 1 but facing the same troubles again, so I figured I'd crowd source the problem. Here's my current list:
I'm 6-5 against Paladin and 8-7 against warlock so it's doing okay, but it's not doing great. I suspect that my lowest performing cards are Leeroy and the Cold Bloods, especially due to cost (Deckhand for Leeroy might make them more viable). I think that I could do with Spellbreakers over Mossy Horror as a more reliable way of dealing with Voidwalker spawns, but is less effective against paladin. More draw would obviously help as well; Thalnos has good synergy with the rest of the deck, or I could add Auctioneer back.
Thoughts?
Mindbreaker is probably gonna shore up your Paladin matchup, I think. That's backbreaking against Odd Paladin.
Umm, otherwise, you definitely want two Auctioneers.
Hey guys, managed to claw my way back up to Rank 1 but facing the same troubles again, so I figured I'd crowd source the problem. Here's my current list:
I'm 6-5 against Paladin and 8-7 against warlock so it's doing okay, but it's not doing great. I suspect that my lowest performing cards are Leeroy and the Cold Bloods, especially due to cost (Deckhand for Leeroy might make them more viable). I think that I could do with Spellbreakers over Mossy Horror as a more reliable way of dealing with Voidwalker spawns, but is less effective against paladin. More draw would obviously help as well; Thalnos has good synergy with the rest of the deck, or I could add Auctioneer back.
Thoughts?
Mindbreaker is probably gonna shore up your Paladin matchup, I think. That's backbreaking against Odd Paladin.
Umm, otherwise, you definitely want two Auctioneers.
I'd probably add in Tar Creepers too.
With two Auctioneers you definitely want two preps and Edwin as well.
Honestly I'd just say go crib one of Dog's lists, it's similar but with a more standard miracle package.
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Hey guys, managed to claw my way back up to Rank 1 but facing the same troubles again, so I figured I'd crowd source the problem. Here's my current list:
I'm 6-5 against Paladin and 8-7 against warlock so it's doing okay, but it's not doing great. I suspect that my lowest performing cards are Leeroy and the Cold Bloods, especially due to cost (Deckhand for Leeroy might make them more viable). I think that I could do with Spellbreakers over Mossy Horror as a more reliable way of dealing with Voidwalker spawns, but is less effective against paladin. More draw would obviously help as well; Thalnos has good synergy with the rest of the deck, or I could add Auctioneer back.
Thoughts?
Off the top of my head, -1/2 Razorpetal Lasher -1 Mossy Horror (if not the second Razorpetal Lasher) for +2 Shadowstep. You've got so many valuable battlecries plus Leeroy that no Shadowstep seems blatantly wrong.
Went 14-22 with various shadowstep lists, it's surprisingly inflexible.
Hey guys, managed to claw my way back up to Rank 1 but facing the same troubles again, so I figured I'd crowd source the problem. Here's my current list:
I'm 6-5 against Paladin and 8-7 against warlock so it's doing okay, but it's not doing great. I suspect that my lowest performing cards are Leeroy and the Cold Bloods, especially due to cost (Deckhand for Leeroy might make them more viable). I think that I could do with Spellbreakers over Mossy Horror as a more reliable way of dealing with Voidwalker spawns, but is less effective against paladin. More draw would obviously help as well; Thalnos has good synergy with the rest of the deck, or I could add Auctioneer back.
Thoughts?
Off the top of my head, -1/2 Razorpetal Lasher -1 Mossy Horror (if not the second Razorpetal Lasher) for +2 Shadowstep. You've got so many valuable battlecries plus Leeroy that no Shadowstep seems blatantly wrong.
Went 14-22 with various shadowstep lists, it's surprisingly inflexible.
Hey guys, managed to claw my way back up to Rank 1 but facing the same troubles again, so I figured I'd crowd source the problem. Here's my current list:
I'm 6-5 against Paladin and 8-7 against warlock so it's doing okay, but it's not doing great. I suspect that my lowest performing cards are Leeroy and the Cold Bloods, especially due to cost (Deckhand for Leeroy might make them more viable). I think that I could do with Spellbreakers over Mossy Horror as a more reliable way of dealing with Voidwalker spawns, but is less effective against paladin. More draw would obviously help as well; Thalnos has good synergy with the rest of the deck, or I could add Auctioneer back.
Thoughts?
Off the top of my head, -1/2 Razorpetal Lasher -1 Mossy Horror (if not the second Razorpetal Lasher) for +2 Shadowstep. You've got so many valuable battlecries plus Leeroy that no Shadowstep seems blatantly wrong.
Went 14-22 with various shadowstep lists, it's surprisingly inflexible.
I've seen a few Mindbreakers. Generally the only real utility has been putting a decent-health minion on the board to deal with cheap threats. I think it would really mess with Odd Pally, but other than that, I don't think it has much utility. It certainly isn't going to hamstring anything that's trying to get to endgame, like Warlock.
Hang on I think I'm having a stroke, are people actually talking about using Mindbreaker?
I was told very explicitly that Mindbreaker has not and never will be a thing!
I've seen it a couple of times.
Was it effective?
It's actually pretty effective against a lot of things.
Great against all of the Odd/Even decks. Can give Warlocks a problem because they can't easily draw deeper to get to their busted shit and removing something with 5 health can be problematic if you play around defile.
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So...I have no idea how this happened:
I had Chameleos and it copied Vinecleaver at 3 cost?
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I haven't even tried ladder since the update. I'm messing around with a Tess/Facecollector Dollmaster Rogue deck in casual but I think the ideas are too disparate. It is fun tho.
edit- Oh, and I threw in Keleseth, so 3 different ideas thrown into one deck. Shadowstepping Keleseth is too much fun in a Rogue deck. It's probably a step too far and takes away the 2 cost removal spells that enable me to survive to the higher cost Tess/Doomaster plays.
edit edit- whoops, mised up Dollmaster and Facecollector.
there's a pretty solidly tier 2 tempo rogue deck that plays tess and face collector for additional value options. it's currently performing slightly worse than odd rogue
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I haven't even tried ladder since the update. I'm messing around with a Tess/Facecollector Rogue deck in casual but I think the ideas are too disparate. It is fun tho.
I run a Thief Rogue with both, it has its uses, the main thing is you can grab Class Cards with Face Collector. Which can be brought back with Tess. Useful especially in the mirror where Tess would be a dead card a lot of the time.
Deck is not like Tier 1, way too much random effects for that but at the same time it has a chance against most decks because of being able to pull an answer out of your ass. Lots of fun to play with, not great if you are trying to climb ladder quickly.
I've seen a few Mindbreakers. Generally the only real utility has been putting a decent-health minion on the board to deal with cheap threats. I think it would really mess with Odd Pally, but other than that, I don't think it has much utility. It certainly isn't going to hamstring anything that's trying to get to endgame, like Warlock.
For me, Mindbreaker is doing a ton of work in my Spiteful Druid deck. It wrecks Odd Pally, obviously, and I’ve been seeing a ton of Odd Rogue lately. It also stops a turn 4 Mountain Giant vs. Warlock. A turn 2 Mindbreaker into a turn 3 taunt like Crypt Lord or Tar Creeper will ruin the day of many decks, since a 5 health minion that early rarely has an effective answer.
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Thinking about removing one Witching Hour for a Swipe. One seems enough when you cube Hadronox afterwards.
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Thank you for this list and code, Alphagaia. I've been wanting to try a different druid deck; hopefully I'll learn to pilot it as well as you did against me.
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Mindbreaker is probably gonna shore up your Paladin matchup, I think. That's backbreaking against Odd Paladin.
Umm, otherwise, you definitely want two Auctioneers.
I'd probably add in Tar Creepers too.
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Ya, I've found cubing and even using witching hour is great with witchwood grizzly as well.
It's even great when someone drops a doomsayer on 5, and I drop my grizzly as a sacrifice.
Turn 6, witching hour rezzes me a 3/12 taunt bear.
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With two Auctioneers you definitely want two preps and Edwin as well.
Honestly I'd just say go crib one of Dog's lists, it's similar but with a more standard miracle package.
Not so good when a Shaman hexed something and then kills it. Witching Hour pulled it the first time but not the second.
Went 14-22 with various shadowstep lists, it's surprisingly inflexible.
E: Where would I find Dog's lists?
he posts them on his twitter:
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I was told very explicitly that Mindbreaker has not and never will be a thing!
Ah, sorry. Guess he wasn't as confident in that one after all.
I've seen it a couple of times.
Was it effective?
It stopped me from building a beast in a game I had lost five turns earlier!
It's actually pretty effective against a lot of things.
Great against all of the Odd/Even decks. Can give Warlocks a problem because they can't easily draw deeper to get to their busted shit and removing something with 5 health can be problematic if you play around defile.
I had Chameleos and it copied Vinecleaver at 3 cost?
Ya but this is more about hex than about grizzly.
On an unrelated note, had a shudder shaman use hemmingway to destroy his entire deck so he could draw his big boys immediate.
Yeah not a good idea if you can't win immediately in 2 turns.
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But what cost reduced card would odd pally be running? Both Crystal Lion and, like, Mountain Giant are even.
Has anyone checked to see if the other DKs have attack and health?
Friend of mine was wondering if Blizzard used some of the code from Jaraxxus which would explain the attack and health bug.
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Corridor Creeper.
It's back... in odd form.
Man that card is really strong in odd paladin. Maybe Blizzard should nerf it?
They fixed that.
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Voodoo Doll seems like it could be fun. Maybe try out Mossy Horror. Baku, Azalina, Godfrey, Face Collector...I don't know!
I guess the meta hasn't really shaken out quite yet.
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edit- Oh, and I threw in Keleseth, so 3 different ideas thrown into one deck. Shadowstepping Keleseth is too much fun in a Rogue deck. It's probably a step too far and takes away the 2 cost removal spells that enable me to survive to the higher cost Tess/Doomaster plays.
edit edit- whoops, mised up Dollmaster and Facecollector.
I run a Thief Rogue with both, it has its uses, the main thing is you can grab Class Cards with Face Collector. Which can be brought back with Tess. Useful especially in the mirror where Tess would be a dead card a lot of the time.
Deck is not like Tier 1, way too much random effects for that but at the same time it has a chance against most decks because of being able to pull an answer out of your ass. Lots of fun to play with, not great if you are trying to climb ladder quickly.
For me, Mindbreaker is doing a ton of work in my Spiteful Druid deck. It wrecks Odd Pally, obviously, and I’ve been seeing a ton of Odd Rogue lately. It also stops a turn 4 Mountain Giant vs. Warlock. A turn 2 Mindbreaker into a turn 3 taunt like Crypt Lord or Tar Creeper will ruin the day of many decks, since a 5 health minion that early rarely has an effective answer.
I crafted him maybe 6 months ago. Still later than I should have. Ha.
Watching my fiance play (she started a day or two ago). Shaman played Hagatha....because of course. Ha. She seems worth a craft.
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Thank you for this list and code, Alphagaia. I've been wanting to try a different druid deck; hopefully I'll learn to pilot it as well as you did against me.
So if it ever copies a discounted card it will always have that discount applied?
Wacky.