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Twilight Imperium 4e - Game 3: Round 4 - Agenda Phase

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  • Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    I think the only thing I can do is play politics

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  • mindflare77mindflare77 OhioRegistered User regular
    edited May 16
    I think the only thing I can do is play politics

    You could also activate either of your other systems and build on them, if you wanted. Or Action Cards.

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  • Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    play politics, name myself speaker

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  • mindflare77mindflare77 OhioRegistered User regular
    @38thDoe for next.

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  • El SkidEl Skid The frozen white northRegistered User regular
    Pass Politics secondary

    mrpaku wrote: »
    my name is precisionk and i'm ten tanks

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  • mindflare77mindflare77 OhioRegistered User regular
    Oh yeah, secondaries! Completely forgot. Much too early. Ugh.

    Play Politics Secondary.

    4/3/2

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  • BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    Pass politics secondary

    @38thDoe I also wound mind if you felt like picking up the bio weapon green tech. Bugs are notoriously hard to get rid of.

    "The shore does not dream of you." - Blind poet Gallan.
  • mindflare77mindflare77 OhioRegistered User regular
    We would like to make it known that we are open to selling action cards, if anybody is interested. Let us know what sort of things you're looking for, and we shall see if we can accommodate your request.

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  • LykouraghLykouragh Registered User regular
    Pass Politics secondary

    @mindflare77 I'd be up for buying AC later if you had anything that helped with overgrown yards, but I'm broke at the moment

  • Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    Do you have any sabos for sale?

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  • Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    I bottomed both agendas again. Nothing amazing

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  • mindflare77mindflare77 OhioRegistered User regular
    For the right price, a great many things are for sale.

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  • Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    Hypothetically, what is a going price for a sabo?

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  • Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    Also, consider a possible 'In conflict with your closest competitor' discount.

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  • LykouraghLykouragh Registered User regular
    What do you mean, "competitor", the kitties and I are good friends! I give good belly rubs.

  • Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    I'm just looking at the scoreboard. The both of you are in the best position to win at the moment. That may change is some tech objectives get revealed in Act 2, but this game will very likely come down to the two of you, so it may be in the cats' best interest to slow you down.

    It is in my best interest to slow everyone down, since im very far from every revealed objective. I'm not even sure if 5 vp this game is a realistic goal. So it's better to trade to a non-competitor that will slow down a rival. I think there would be a good discount for that, since it satisfies a broad strategic goal for Hacan.

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  • Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    Also, the cats trading a card that would assist you in removing, say 4 baby groots from a particular industrial planet, would be counter productive to them establishing a lead.

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  • mindflare77mindflare77 OhioRegistered User regular
    Priced are negotiable as per market rates. Market rates currently price a Point at 5TG, as an example. We are open to offers to best other potential buyers, of course.

    I think we're on @38thDoe for a Politics Secondary decision, then action is on them for their turn.

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  • Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    Priced are negotiable as per market rates. Market rates currently price a Point at 5TG, as an example. We are open to offers to best other potential buyers, of course.

    I think we're on 38thDoe for a Politics Secondary decision, then action is on them for their turn.

    I'm not sure if that gets me any closer to figuring out what a sabo would be worth

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  • BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    Im pretty sure he just said 5TG.

    "The shore does not dream of you." - Blind poet Gallan.
  • Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    I think the 5TG was just for a victory point

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  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    Pass on secondary. Can I move ships through a system with my fleet limit of ships?



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  • Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    I think so, yeah. Fleet capacity is resolved at end of turn

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  • LykouraghLykouragh Registered User regular
    You know, I was just looking this up because I thought my move last turn was going to trigger this, and this is what I found:

    34.3 If at any time the number of a player’s ships in a system
    exceeds the number of tokens in his fleet pool, he chooses and
    destroys excess ships in that system.

    49.4 STEP 1—MOVE SHIPS: A player can move any number of his
    eligible ships into the active system, obeying the following rules:
    • The ship must end its movement in the active system.
    • The ship cannot move through a system that contains nonfighter
    ships controlled by another player.
    • The ship cannot move if it started its movement in another
    system that contains one of its faction’s command tokens.
    • The ship can move through systems that contain its own
    faction’s command tokens.
    • The ship can move out of the active system and back into it
    if its move value is high enough.
    • The ship must move along a path of adjacent systems, and
    the number of systems the ship enters cannot exceed its
    move value.
    49.5 When a ship with a capacity value moves or is moved, it may
    transport ground forces and fighters.
    49.6 The active player’s ships move simultaneously

  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    So, is that a no, you can't move through your own fleet?



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  • BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    38thDoe wrote: »
    So, is that a no, you can't move through your own fleet?

    Its not technically specified. RAW imply that no, you can't, but its not clear if movement checks FS during each move.

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  • El SkidEl Skid The frozen white northRegistered User regular
    edited May 16
    38thDoe wrote: »
    So, is that a no, you can't move through your own fleet?

    There’s nothing in there that says that... so yes, you can... even if the system you’re moving through is already activated

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    mrpaku wrote: »
    my name is precisionk and i'm ten tanks

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  • Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    I always thought it was at the end, rather than anytime. For instance, if you had fleet capacity of 2 you could still invade a system with three, just knowing if you win combat with more than 2 ship you have to destroy extras.

    I don’t think “any time” applies to the middle of a move step

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  • BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    @MrBlarney for a ruling on moving fleets through your own fleets, provided they end in different systems, regarding Fleet Supply limitations.

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  • mindflare77mindflare77 OhioRegistered User regular
    You can move through. Capacity is checked at the end.

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  • El SkidEl Skid The frozen white northRegistered User regular
    You can move through. Capacity is checked at the end.

    The end of movement before combat I believe, but MrB can clarify

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    my name is precisionk and i'm ten tanks

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  • BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    You can move through. Capacity is checked at the end.

    Is this errata'd / stated in the rules? It was my understanding, but now I can't find it.

    "The shore does not dream of you." - Blind poet Gallan.
  • LykouraghLykouragh Registered User regular
    This thread seems to indicate there's an official response from the designers that says "you can exceed fleet supply en route" but boy I wish they'd clarify that in the living rules reference.

    https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1854794/fleet-supply-during-movement

  • Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    Hmm, are the fish going into bugspace?

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  • El SkidEl Skid The frozen white northRegistered User regular
    Hmm, are the fish going into bugspace?

    More likely nabbing the empty Sol planets, but I guess you never know!

    mrpaku wrote: »
    my name is precisionk and i'm ten tanks

    wrath God fear traitor evil
  • Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    El Skid wrote: »
    Hmm, are the fish going into bugspace?

    More likely nabbing the empty Sol planets, but I guess you never know!

    I don't think he can reach the empty Sol planets. The only move i see that would prompt that question is if he moved his three ships from his home system, through another one of his ships, and into the double planet system next to your home world.

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  • LykouraghLykouragh Registered User regular
    also i have his ceasefire

    also the space squids and the humans have a very special relationship

  • El SkidEl Skid The frozen white northRegistered User regular
    El Skid wrote: »
    Hmm, are the fish going into bugspace?

    More likely nabbing the empty Sol planets, but I guess you never know!

    I don't think he can reach the empty Sol planets. The only move i see that would prompt that question is if he moved his three ships from his home system, through another one of his ships, and into the double planet system next to your home world.

    He has dreadnought IIs with gravity drive. They have a move of 2 and carry capacity of 1, so one of the ones from his HS could reach carrying a ground force, if he went through the system containing his other dreadnought.

    mrpaku wrote: »
    my name is precisionk and i'm ten tanks

    wrath God fear traitor evil
  • El SkidEl Skid The frozen white northRegistered User regular
    Lykouragh wrote: »
    also i have his ceasefire

    also the space squids and the humans have a very special relationship

    I see a very good reason for using up your cease fire, but I won’t spoil the surprise for you! xD

    mrpaku wrote: »
    my name is precisionk and i'm ten tanks

    wrath God fear traitor evil
  • MrBlarneyMrBlarney Registered User regular
    edited May 17
    Just in case you still needed a ruling on it, the answer is that yes, fleet supply limits can be 'temporarily exceeded' as part of movement. So you can, for example, move ships through a friendly system that is already at the fleet pool cap, to arrive at a different destination system. Movement all happens at once, so there's no discrete step where pool limits are checked until the movement is done.

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